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Yes, we did ask them before hand . And they agreed .. So there. that answers that and I have answered your question ten times. I have tried to be patient . I have given you an alternative place to send the affadavit so you will feel comfortable. With a name attached to it. I have done all I can do. I have answered all your concerns. I have tried my best.

In case you havent read all the post which would be hard to do. We have not said who we are because our lives have been threatned. Our childrens lives have been threatned. Now as for the spouse post you have to understand the frustration . First they live with a survivor which is bad enough and now they are going through all of this , so its tough on the spouses.
As for releasing the names, I cant release other peoples names, that is something they have to choose to do. I can tell you that there are ten of us. I can tell you we are all survivors of either Morgan Yacht or St. Pete or NJ. Releasing our names on this public forum that is watched by dfaf and others is dangerous to us. I find it ironic that you are asking for our names to put us in danger but posting as anonymous. YOur demanding our names but wont post your own. Help me understand this.We want all of you to feel comfortable and secure but because this is a public forum we can only give out so much information. Your concerns about who is this is a legit question which is why we gave wes as a refrence to try and help you all feel comfortable with it without putting ourselves in jepordy. Before you all get all heated and stuff , we are trying to get the stuff done as soon as possiable so we can put our names out there.
I am a bit confused that Wes as a refrence is not good enough for someone who post anonymous. Please explain this to me. So that I may see it from your point of view.

Look , Ive been reading the board with  my friend who is part of the survivors group and I cant hold my tongue anymore.

Look you PINHEAD. These people are spending their money, time and risking their lives to bury the people you sit and moan about. They are doing it to help you and to get the rest of the kids out. I live with one of them and they have enough to put Betty in jail, they have enough to go against the State all the way back to 1976, they have enough evidence like you wouldnt believe and they worked their butt off to get it.
they have explained to you , they have told you to call or email wes if you doubt their credibility . Justice is coming.. They have it...
They even have agreed to sit by a computer ALL day to answer any question about affadavits.  So if you care AT ALL about those kids that are sitting in group right now getting abused or thinking about suicide you will at least try to make a difference.
I know Im only a spouse but I have to say this
PUT UP OR SHUT UP cause this team of survivors is risking it all. Then you all want them to give you their names on a public forum like their lives arent already in danger. You want their address too , their kids lives are in danger , they can prove govenrment collusion, they can prove the city of ST. Pete KNEW . They have a claim against the state in all of YOUR NAMES.. ALL SURVIVORS that will be filed ... because of the massive effort THEY put in. They have senators waiting on their report. They have criminal investigations on the board.
So you either want to help or not. They do understand if you cant help because you cant emotionally deal with it. But just to sit here and post with every other excuse is LAME.
Dont hold them responsible for what I posted> Im just a spouse observing from the sidelines . Just had to say how I feel.

Betty Sembler is on the board of directors for this link.

Also Bill Oliver left straight to join this.

Have fun yall they have a message board

Since there are so many questions going around we are holding a chat tonight Sat at nine pm . YOu can ask us anything you wish about the affadavits
who we are , etc.
Maybe that will finally clear it all up....

http://www.straightincorporated.com/chat1.html

To anon,
If you are a survivor and forgive my questioning it but twice now youve asked for our names. hmmmmm... Most survivors would understand why we arent giving them and giving wes fager and ginger as our crediability backers is enough for most. So, ummm ... we were wondering who you are that wants our names. If we werent legit we couldnt use Wes.

If for any reason you do not want to file charges or file your affadavit with local law enforcement officials. You can still send us your affadavit to us which we might use in our report. Your affadavit will be reviewed by a Paralegal prior to be put in the report to protect you.