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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: May 13, 2007, 02:30:18 PM »
You are sounding fed up vern......you're not starting to think about quitting on him are you?

 NOT ME but
I just found out his parents had him arrested and sent to rehab.
I don't know any details

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

I speculate it happened about 4 days ago.  I think the youtube video was the last straw for them

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

 :(  :flame:  :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: May 10, 2007, 06:33:21 AM »
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Hang on in there
 I'm hangin


 
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he'll bore of the 'excitement'

I sure hope so.

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it's just a mighty "Fuck You!


I think your probable right  

Vern

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: May 07, 2007, 07:01:50 PM »
The stupid fukc posted a video of himself on youtube smoking a bong, guzzling a drink and then doing a shot.  He looks like he hasn't showered in weeks and I sit by and be supportive.   WHATS WRONG with this picture?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: April 18, 2007, 07:23:06 PM »
Antigen, I found this on the I NEED AVICE thread and brought it over here.   When I start getting depressed and start questioning some of my thinking I reread some of the advice here to keep me on the right track


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Vern, I hope you understand, at least, that Who is a perfect representative of Program philosophy and personality and that their magic snake oil cure for the insoluible condidtion of adolescence just that, snake oil.

On the bright side, the terrifying danger over which these sadistic lunatics want you to panic is really not all that big a deal. You think partying w/ friends is risky behavior? Well just look to generations past when disaffected young men took other options, like joining the French Foreign Legion or heading out into the Wild West to seek their fame and fortune and the girls just had to suck it up.

I hope the kid is doing alright. He's luck to have an aunt like you who has held fast to that quaint old habit of thinking things through and standing by family even when the rest of the herd is stampeding over a cliff. It'll all work out in the end.
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"Duct-taped from head to toe for no reason. (my favorite)" The Who


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Well Vern, you could do that.

But what effect would it have? Having him at your house isn't gouing to make him give up his lifestyle and want what you want for him, you're doing okay by giving him his space to work it all out and letting him know you're still there for him no matter what, consider the fact that he is taking to you about the drink and acid abuse as him placing a huge trust in you, not many kids would admit that to anyone, he's turning to you by telling you something that you could easily run to the police or his parents with in order to get taken away, it's a huge trust he's placing in you

I know it's really difficult, but try not to lecture him, by all means let him know you are not impressed by his lifestyle and see him as deserving better for himself, but for the most part, keep him close with the trust you share ... and good luck in helping to bring him back to a life that he really wants, I'm sure hes as mad as hell at himself for what he's doing, which is probably why he tells you


exhausted,
Thanks for building my confidence, sometimes I question my own thinking on this matter and it's nice to be reassured  

Vern

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: April 17, 2007, 01:02:52 PM »
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You know it may be possible that my space is not an entirely accurate picture of how this kids life is. After all is myspace not just the locker room of our time? Who has not embellised a little as a teenager in order to look cool?


I wish that was the case, I talked to him yesterday and he admitted drinking and doing acid, he said he's not doing crack tho. I hope thats true.  Sometimes I get so upset I just want to drag him to my house and keep him safe. :(

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: April 15, 2007, 08:38:42 PM »
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Wonder how things are working out for this family


I don't know exactly how to answer that, it's working in the fact that he's not in a TBS but his myspace account implies that he's doing alot of drinking and drugs.   He's living between a couple of friends houses and probably partying alot so for him it's working.
His parents have pretty much come to accept the fact that he's gonna do what he's gonna do and the consequences are his but there not to happpy about it. They are hoping he hits bottom sooner rather than later  and comes home and gets his life together.  

Vern

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The Troubled Teen Industry / I need advise
« on: April 12, 2007, 05:53:12 PM »
Exhausted,

A few weeks ago you gave me some great advice when I needed it,
I'm sending it back to you now in your time of need.

 I have been/am EXACTLY where you are x3

No you can't make him do anything, tell him you don't want to make him, that is the last thing you want him to do, the whole idea is that he wants to do something about it

All i can offer you is what I did, I decided not to send my kids to a program, even though it meant hell for me, I stood back and observed what I was doing as a parent and what they were doing as people, it took alot for me to realise that these kids are people and i have no right to make their life choices ofr them, it's down to them what they want to do for a living, whether they want to follow a criminal path etc etc, nearly immediately after stepping back and letting them know I didn't intend to screw out at them, but armed them with all the information i could muster, I gave them their weapons, then I let them out to survve, they knew the consequences, they knew they were not my consequences and I would not accept any responsibility for anything that came of bad choices made by them - they started to trust me, they started to respect me, they started to come to me with problems - why? probably because they knew for starters I wasn't going to freak out, or try to control them, but they also knew it might be worth getting some more info from me before doing anything they may regret

The bad choices still happen, it's not a magic cure, but the good ones far outweigh the bad, this could be because the responsibility i theirs alone, it could be that they are seeing me as someone other than the enemy, more likely it's because they don't wind me up anymore and therefore it's no fun, I don't really care what their reasoning is, al i know is that I have loving kids who are working really hard on finding themselves as peple, rather than controlled (or rather me trying to control them) robots who just did everything behind my back, we really are a much happier family because I was able to look at myself and realise where I was going wrong rather than point the finger at them the whole time

Eldest son starts college on Monday - he is 20, up to now he's wanted to do nothing but go to jail and generally waste his life, you have no idea how hard its been for him to wake up and want more for himself than that, but he did it and I am so proud of him for wanting to change things - it took guts for him to admit his failings as it did me.

I hope you can gain something from this, really, trying to control him is not going to work, encouraging him to want to control his own destiny could do the trick

I still want to murder them at times, but to date it has been 2 months since I've had the police/neighbours/other irate persons on my doorstep - as opposed to 1 - 2 times daily, I think that kind of tells it's own story

Don't think it's easy, it isn't, it's far from it One thing you have to understand is you are taking on aot here, this kid is reay screwed up and feels he is going to loose 'street cred' if he cleans his act up, its one of the hardest things for a teen to do, but it's achievable, my 13 & 14 year old have done it The informatin and weapons i gave them were stuff like talking about drugs, safe sex, living rough and the dangers, all i could do for them was to give them all the information they needed to help them to make their decisions, the rest was up to them, I guess when i talk of weapons, I really meant tools (Not guns geek) that wasn't aimed at you but the replyee on that! Meaning life skills, tools to help them work out that they do have choices that no one else could make for them, good or bad, their choices would lead to how their lives turned out, thnakfully they're making better and better choices every day as once they got into that pattern, they found they were enjoying life at home and outside. The recent developments are a concern, this lad realy is runnign scared, he needs to know he can survive al of this and still turn out as an okay kind of person, he may not be bale to do this by living with you, I'd agree that letting him know you will do whatever it takes to help him is a good idea, but it may mean you helping him find a safe haven away from you, but with the knowledge that you are not going to let anyone hurt him in any way whatever, you're only a phone call away Of course you're worried where he is, but calling the police is going to take him home and then straight into a program, it'll be another reason to send him in that hes caused grief to his parents again, he'll survive, honest, all he needs from you is the knowledge that he can pick up the phone and you'll help.....pease let us know how you get on Exhausted (Unable to log in & blinded by thse nightmare codes)

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: April 06, 2007, 07:59:10 PM »
I have now seen him with my own eyes so I can 100% say that he is not back at TBS. :D
Of course he ‘s lost 20LBS. and got strep throat but basically he seems OK.  He’s living at one of his friend’s house and I feel better knowing that he’s not sleeping on the streets.  

Thank you to all of you who hung in there with me and gave me advice and helped me through a really difficult time, it was very much appreciated.



Vern

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: March 30, 2007, 04:42:21 PM »
Quick update,

Sorry I don't have time for more than that right now.
I spoke to him on the phone today  :D  and he sounded good.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Just because I needed to
« on: March 28, 2007, 04:47:45 PM »
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register on myspace
find his page
click beneath his picture where it says "send message"
send him an email


I feel like an idiot for not knowing this   :D Thank you :D

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