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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Best Friends Animal Sanctuary Linked to Satanism
« on: January 31, 2006, 02:13:00 AM »
When i was in pathway we went to utah to volunteer at best friends animal sanctuary. Tonight, i was reading an article about scientology and its connection with satanic cults, and all types of crazy shit like that. Guess what?

" Contrary to popular belief, the Process is still around, having undergone numerous name changes over the years. The first was the ?Four-P Movement.? Author Michael Newton wrote that the cult, ?is also deeply involved in white slavery, child pornography and the international narcotics trade.? Still other name changes for the Process included The Foundation Church of the Millenium, The Foundation Faith of God and then Best Friends Animal Sanctuary. Today it is known as The Best Friends Animal Society and is located in Kanab, Utah. Mary Ann Degrimston makes her home there along with several other former members. Gone are the days when Process members journeyed to San Quentin to interview Manson. Gone too are all references to Satan and doomsday. Members now softpeddle their involvement in the Process Church of the Final Judgement citing juvenile misguidance. The goal of the reformed church now is to save animals. The large compound in southern Utah is their testament to this end. And the animal sanctuary is a huge cash cow. In 2003 the Society raised more than $20 million. Perhaps the Degrimstons were wise to abandon Scientology when they did. Robert currently works in New York City as a business consultant."
Here's the article http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commen ... tology.htm


So Mr. Schadel  took us to a place that is operated by a former members of a church that was invloved in "white slavery, child pornography and the international narcotics trade."?? I wonder if there is a connection....

and even if there isn't, pathway is still bullshit and all the therapists that were there when i was there can kiss my white ass.  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Any PFC Grads Out There?
« on: September 25, 2005, 09:44:00 PM »
i think the only peerstaff left is steve....but i think he doesn't even work much anymore...
there are 2 other peerstaffs now, both graduated within thhe last 3 years i think

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Any PFC Grads Out There?
« on: September 18, 2005, 02:39:00 AM »
Yo PFC class of 2003
what is the word?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Keep Speaking Up! They Are Worried!
« on: September 13, 2005, 11:51:00 PM »
Hmm....yes, you're "relapse" and mine are pretty similar. i hate using the term relapse, but i guess i'm still somerhwat conditioned to use that type of talking.

I think pfc is fucked up because i know now that me, and many other clients, had totaly differant thoughts and feelings than we were letting out in the program. I didn't feel love from the group, like i often said i did. I thought of the group as almost an enemy. Even though i wanted to stay sober, the group itsself was crazy. To me, pathway was a prison. And the only way out was to cooperate. They make it look like only on 1st level you have to stay at host homes, then you can go home. WRONG. When i went home on 2nd level, it was like bieng in another host home. It made me sick to see my house with alarms and locks everywhere. I couldn't talk to my parents openly. So many times did i want to say "this place is crazy, you havce no idea what its really like" but i couldn't because i was afriad they would go right to staff, and then i was busted. Startwed over,that much further away from geting out. Even when i had an honest desire to stay sober, my maind motivation was to get out of pfc. Everything was fake. When i was on 5th, i was like a nazi. I evforced all the rules and i "fried" everybody for any little thing. But that wasn't because i felt thats what needed to be done to help them, it was because i had to do that because i would look good and it would get me one step closer to getting out. It was a survival tactic. Everything was. I'v already written a lot here, so i'll shutup. The bottom line is that everything i did in pathway was out of fear, fear of being there longer, being out of society, away from real life. The whole progam is based on fear and consequence. I played the game, but the whole thing is sick.

thats all for now, maybe i will elaborate later when after i get some sleep.

 :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Keep Speaking Up! They Are Worried!
« on: September 13, 2005, 03:01:00 AM »
Yes, i graduated in 2003, exactly one year after i went in.
When i graduated, that was pretty fast, i only know of a few people who had graduated faster than me. From what i hear, these days average stay is like 9-12 months....but i dont have much contact with the PFC folk anymore, so i dont really know.
When i got out, i really did believe i had a drug problem. At least for a little while. I stayed sober for 1 year, 1 month, and 1 day outside of pathway. I'd say the majority of my "sobriety" was to please my parents,but mostly because i had  3 best friends from pathway. We were all like brothers and we were all sober, and there was no way i was going to risk those friends by getting out of the sober thing. plus, its never really a GOOD idea to start smoke pot, or drink alcohol underage..so being sober kept me out of trouble.

When i finally "relapsed" it was kind of the same thing you said webcrawler,i didnt really see myself in 10 years still going to AA and living this sober life. Like you said, i couldn't see myself living that role. To be honest, i have no beef with pathway. I think its a fucked up place and a lot of shit that goes on there shouldn't be allowed to happen. But i won't deny that i got some good out of it. It did help me grow up a bit. But just because i went to pathway and the staff there told me and my parents that i was an addict doesn't mean that i have to be sober for the rest of my life.  

 :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Keep Speaking Up! They Are Worried!
« on: September 11, 2005, 11:39:00 PM »
Hmm....it seems like my family prefer ignorance over knowing the truth. If you haven't already guessed, i'm no longer "sober".
And when i finally told my parents that i had decided that sobriety wasn't really my cup of tea, and that i didnt' think it was necessary, i tried to make it clear to them that all that money they spent and everything they went through wasn't a waste. Because it wasn't ALL a waste...jsut most of it. I think they understand that a lot of stuff happens there that shouldn't, and now they see that it probably wasn't necessary, but i think they would prefer to believe that it was still a good decision.
I think it is better that way....who wants to think they threw away $40,000 and  ayear of their lives.
Also, i dont think my parents know anything about straight...

 :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Keep Speaking Up! They Are Worried!
« on: September 11, 2005, 06:54:00 PM »
Once you are on 3rd level you can use the internet at home with parent supervision....i think thats how it was at least. All i know is that my dad was sitting right next to me, and i wasn't breaking any rules.
My dad also got reemed in parent group, but like me, didn't understand why they would be so upset with me for seeing an alternative view.

But angry they were.Its crazy because when i got confronted in that group, i stood up and said that i honestly didn't see anything wrong with what i did. And everyones hand shot up. My whole group told me they no longer trusted me, and thought that i had been completely dishonest. All because i went to a forum? What the hell?
 
Rediculous.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Keep Speaking Up! They Are Worried!
« on: September 11, 2005, 03:21:00 PM »
Ha!
You know whats funny? when i was on 3rd level i came to this forum. I looked arround, read some stuff, i couldn't believe what you were all saying about my beloved program.

Somehow staff caugght wind of this, and tore me a new asshole. Luckily i got out with only losing my preivelages for a week. But that incident right there showed me what a bullshit place pathway really was. What do they have to hide that their own client should not be allowed to read?
There's a lot of talk about Vicki Winbarger around here, funny...because she was the person that was most upset about me being here.
Interesting, isn't it?
 :wave:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pathway must be stopped
« on: September 11, 2005, 03:14:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-09-10 11:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

"If I'm such a "little bitch," then why don't you mention your name. It's funny how you insult me but are too much of a pussy to drop your name. Who's the little bitch?"


Yea...that wasn't me...
But i suppose i agree with whoever it was...

And who says i'm acting like a hardass? I guess i kinda was in my reply to you....but in my initial post there was nothing that was supposed to sound like i'm a hardass, just stating my opinion.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pathway must be stopped
« on: September 10, 2005, 11:44:00 PM »
hmm....well who could you be?
Say you're name you little puss. I'm gonna be honest. Anyone i was in the program with, that wants to talk to some shit, fucking call me up. and we'll meet up. And we'll talk some shit. I'v said my name, and when i was in the program, who could i be? Not hard to figure out bitches.

I will smoke it up. I'll drink it up. But i'll be damned if some fucking pathway sissy is gonna talk some shit, just because i'm stating my opinion. Its too bad that you still stick up for that place,the place that raped you of your parents money and X amount of months from you're life.

so say you're name, or shut your mouth.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / National-level TV Talk Show looking for survivors of Straigh
« on: September 05, 2005, 08:00:00 PM »
get to straight
get to straight
 in my delta '88
get to straight
get to straight my friiiieeeeeeend

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pathway must be stopped
« on: September 04, 2005, 02:21:00 AM »
I graduated pathway in november of 2003.
Since then, i have just been glad to be out and away  from the place. But now, the time has come to do something about it. I dont know exaclty what we can do, but this place must be stopped. Anyone who has ever been through pathway/straight or any other pathway spinoff shares a bond that only we konw about. We can try to explain it to other pople but they will never understand exactly what we went through. As Americans and as human being we should never have to go through this shit. The fact that we have been through it and we allow it to happen to other kids today is sick, and it must stop. Again, i dont know what exactly we can do, but it has to stop. Sure there are kids that need help,and have problems with drugs. But permanent mind fucking like what happens at PFC is wrong and should not be allowed to continue. It has to stop.Its not fair to kids. There are kids sleeping i phazer rooms RIGHT NOW. doing boxer shuffles and  getting honest with the group about sometihng the probably didn't even do RIGHT NOW. It has to sstop and we have to do something about it. Who is with me?!?!? WHat can we do? I dont know, maybe go to open meeting and stand up in the middle of it and tell them all to run? I dont konw, but we have to  do something, it is our duty as americans to make sure this type of oppression does not continue.  

Peace.

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