Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - ShyGirl

Pages: [1] 2
1
Elan School / 60 Mins and Elan
« on: January 12, 2006, 10:42:00 PM »
What about the videotapes number?  Isn't that what they do?  Sell copies of their taped shows?

Maybe they didn't do it back in the '80s.

2
Elan School / 60 Mins and Elan
« on: January 12, 2006, 09:12:00 PM »
Perhaps you can contact them...

 
 
(CBS) 60 Minutes:

ADDRESS:
60 Minutes
524 West 57th St.
New York, NY 10019

EMAIL: 60m@cbsnews.com

PHONE: (212) 975-3247

TRANSCRIPTS: 1-800-777-TEXT

VIDEOTAPES: 1-800-848-3256

3
Elan School / Another Dead
« on: January 11, 2006, 02:24:00 PM »
Fla. Lawmaker Decries Juvenile Boot Camps


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/11/D8F2I3A8C.html

4
Elan School / Elan Reporter caught in the ACT
« on: August 15, 2005, 10:07:00 AM »
Quote
You are the focus point at this board Marty, it is all coming around to haunt you now Marty. You had your time in the spotlight, now it is time to pay the fiddler. Did you actually think you could get away with what you done without any consquences?



These are NOT consequences!!  This is just childish namecalling.

5
Open Free for All / help me please
« on: September 27, 2011, 01:10:07 AM »
Sometimes just STRESSing about your period being a little late can cause it to be even later.

6
Web forum hosting / Hyde School
« on: July 20, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-04-07 18:35:00, Oppositional Defiance wrote:

"

I respectfully request that a new forum be created for former students of the Hyde Schools of Character Education (TM). There's a campus in Maine and in Connecticut. There are widespread abuses going on there. Not nearly as fucking bad as Straight or CEDU, but take either of those programs, and water them down a bit, and you get Hyde. It's all from the same bad shit. If you were to create the forum, I would do what I could to get conversation going about various topics, having spent a good deal of time at the school myself and seen a lot of shit. Thank you. And by the way, Ginger, you truly are an angel, watching over all of us. Also, could anybody give me any information about how to sue one of my parents for sending me to CEDU programs?



Much Appreciated,

OD"


I personally wouldn't sue my parents because that would damage our relatioinship forever.  But, this website might be able to give you some info if you really wanted to.

I got the following off http://teenliberty.org/

Notice to Parents:  If you are considering sending your child away to any school, do due diligence on the school, its owner, operator and staff. In some states, failure to do due diligence -- where a child is later abused -- is child abuse, and may be chargeable to you as a felony. Your child is one of your most precious responsibilities.

Like I said...I wouldn't sue my parents, BUT if other people did, parents may become afraid to send their kids to these places like these.

7
Elan School / This must be the I failed at Elan site....
« on: July 19, 2005, 03:19:00 PM »
Quote
What could possibly explain how one kid wittnessed another violently attacking someone and then getting gently, properly restrained while another kid standing in the same room saw a kid get his ass kicked for some trivial think like rolling his eyes?


I don't know.  What I do know is that I remember a little boy named Clyde.  I think he was 12 but looked about 8.  He used to wet his bed and he got beat up in the ring for that several times.  Anyone remember anything differently?  Anyone remember him deserving that?  Anyone remember this being productive therapy? Anyone remember this "saving his life?"

8
Elan School / This must be the I failed at Elan site....
« on: July 18, 2005, 08:06:00 PM »
Hmmmmm....

Everyone's Elan experience was so unique.  I guess that's why some of us shout abuse while others claim, "They saved my life."

Aside from my being in the worst house, I remember I used to wish I was older.  I was only 14 when I went to Elan.  The staff treated me like such crap.  I remember the older students being treated so much better.  Especially the 17-year-olds.  The staff was always so nice to them.  I guess they didn't want them to sign out when they turned 18.  Most of them did anyway.

9
Elan School / This must be the I failed at Elan site....
« on: July 18, 2005, 04:54:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-07-18 11:02:00, Pete wrote:

"As for the Elan 7 kids, I am filled with pity.  That house was AWFUL!  Tania Merette makes me sick.  Both of Elan's senior directors (Tania and Marty) should be fired."


Finally a little compassion for what us 7ers had to go through.

10
Elan School / This must be the I failed at Elan site....
« on: July 18, 2005, 01:36:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-07-18 10:29:00, Chrysta wrote:

" I needed a loving environment with hard structure, accountability, therapy, relationships,"


Are we still talking about elan here?  Because this does not sound like the Elan I went to.  Sounds like you were in Elan 3, Maybe things were different in 7.

11
Elan School / This must be the I failed at Elan site....
« on: July 18, 2005, 01:19:00 PM »
Maybe a study should be conducted to see if these TCs are effective at all.  Everyone I know who graduated Elan (roughly 20 students) fell flat on their faces within months of their graduation.  Most are doing fine now, but I believe this is a result of growing up (we?re talking 10-15 years later), NOT a result of the wonderful therapy they received while in Elan.  

I do believe that dangerous people should be kept off our streets.  Anyone who rapes an 8-year-old should be tried for his crime and perhaps sent to prison.  I don?t believe that a teenager who talks back to their parents should be ?put behind bars? for 3 years.  Since when is being an oppositional teenager a crime worthy of imprisonment?  In Elan, you had some kids who were sent by the state because they had committed crimes and it was Elan or prison.  In Elan, there were many many other students, especially the girls, who were sent there because their rich parents were tired of not being listened to and being disrespected and Elan was the place where they could dispose of their child for several years.   Why don?t the children of the rich parents have a right to a lawyer and trial?  Because no jury would convict them.  On my 14th birthday my parents took me to court to get a ?divorce? from me.  They were laughed out of the courtroom.  So what did they do?they sent me to Elan.  

So, what can we do instead?

Well, I?ll tell you what I?m doing.  There was this 13-year-old girl who was cursing her parents, dropped out of school, smoking pot, and dressing slutty.  Her parents wanted to send her away before things escalated.  I stepped forward and took her into my house.  I live far away from her home so she is away from her ?bad friends?  and I am pleased to say she is doing great.  She?s back in school, no drugs, talking with respect, etc. I did this just by providing a loving environment for her away from the bad elements that she familiarized herself with.  She (like most of us) was a sweet girl underneath a very rough exterior.  I didn?t put her in the corner; I didn?t scream or spit in her face; I didn?t put her in a boxing ring; I didn?t tell her how worthless she is.  I am just trying to help her figure out who she is and do so in a nondestructive manner.

12
Elan School / Are there any normal people here?
« on: July 08, 2005, 06:13:00 PM »
So, Tamar, you claim Elan was a walk in the park?

Let?s change the names for a minute.  Instead of  ?élan? let?s pretend we?re talking about someone?s parents.  Now this teen?s parents are tying his hands and feet in restraints, putting him in a ?boxing ring? with someone 3X his size just so that he can get beat up, of course while this is going on the parent is yelling at the teen calling him a pussy. This parent is also depriving him of proper medical care, spitting in his face, constantly telling him how worthless he is, depriving him of sunlight for days, weeks or even months in some cases, forcing him to stay up at night for days on end.  No working phone in the house...not even to dial 911 should it become necessary.  

Now, what would happen to these parents?  Do you think that maybe, just maybe, they might be charged with child abuse and neglect?

My point is that what goes on in these places is legalized child abuse.  

Anyway, I do agree with you Tamar about one thing.  After Elan it is our job to pick up the pieces.  Elan may be a screwed up place, but we?re the ones who have to live our lives, so there?s no point in blaming them.  

This forum should be a place where we can come to find old friends, make new friends, tell war stories with people who might understand us, and bash that Godforsaken place!

13
Elan School / Are there any normal people here?
« on: July 07, 2005, 04:25:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: ShyGirl on 2005-07-18 17:19 ]

14
Elan School / Did Pete Moore really fuck his Sister?
« on: July 04, 2005, 08:51:00 PM »
Why the attack on Ginger?
What she?s saying makes a lot of sense.  Look in the other forums.  Only in this one are people spewing such hatred.  It?s like people get off on hurting each other.  I wish I could answer Ginger?s question about why Elan.  But I can?t because Elan is the only program I was in contact with, so I can?t compare it to other programs.  I do know that it was very difficult to have a real friend in Elan because you could not trust anyone.  Everyone was always writing you up for something, especially your ?friends.?  Also, everyone was always yelling at you or spitting in your face.  Elan used the students to make each other feel like crap. Is that why we all hate each other?  
I too would like to explore this topic further.  Any other ideas?

15
Elan School / Marc Rosenburg????
« on: June 30, 2005, 08:20:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-06-30 16:39:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That's pretty outlandish.

When I was there it was like uh=nheard of to be there for even 2 years.

If somebody was, it was usually the most fucked up raped his sister type half retarded loser.

Everyone was pretty much out in 18 months or sooner...16-18 like I said."


I was there for 3 years myself...and I never raped my sister :smile:

I think I was there for so long because I was so young when I got to Elan.  I think they try to keep everyone there until as close to their 18th birthday as possible.  That's usually when the money runs out or the kids sign themselves out anyway.

Pages: [1] 2