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Forgive me for not using the searching first.  Thank you for the links!

I am currious though, if anyone here has delt with Jill Porter specifically.

~Liz

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I am currious if anyone else here has had experience with so-called "educational consultants".

My consultant, an elderly woman by the name of Jill Porter, based in San Diego CA, advised my family to send me to CCA.  At the time, CCA had ONE student, no staff, and was located in the administrator's house.  She had never visited the school, and only knew Tammy (administrator) through Spring Ridge Academy.  Futhermore, she sent a young man to Blue Hills Academy when it only had a few students and no history of sucess because she was "familiar" with Linda and Sonja, two therapists that created the school.  Once again, she had never visited the facility.

Porter sent me to Oldfields School after CCA - it is a dumping ground for rich, spoiled brats of rich east coasters.  She knew very well it was my last choice, but didn't seem to care.  It was, also, the most expensive of my choices for high school after CCA.

So has anyone else found these people to be dishonest?  Do they get kickbacks?  If so, how much?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: May 18, 2005, 02:13:00 PM »
Anon - CCA was originally located in Camp Verde, Arizona (a truck-stop town located between Flagstaff and Pheonix) but was moved (by the students!) to a new location now on display on their website in Lake Montezuma, AZ, just a few minutes north of Camp Verde.  And yes, I agree.  It IS all about the money to these people, and it's simply horifying to think that the people who ran CCA were regarded as "upstanding" in the Mormon community.  As if regular bible-beaters weren't bad enough, we have a state full of people who glorify this crap.

Oh yeah - work hours.  Gotta love those bitches.  We got them, like you I'm sure, for everything and anything.  I watched a student be given 5 workhours for manipulation for telling one staff member she was bummed out because she was tired and telling another she was hungry.  We weren't allowed to level up if you had recived workhours in that week, and it was really vicious.  The staff would watch you like a hawk when they knew you put your "level up letter" in.  We did the most useless things for workhours.  Staff members would bring their cars in on the weekend to get them washed by girls with whs.

We originally were allowed to level up with the concent of our therapist and Tammy.  Tha changed once we got 20 students, and was gradually transitioned to the voting system.  I'm not sure how it works now.  We had a workbook authored by Linda that we had to complete to level up, and it was the stupidest thing ever writen.  It was the kind of psychobabble you'd expect from a Hare Krishna or a Japanese Aum cultist.

I never had to write a letter of apology, but I was always told I apologized too much.  The only people who were kicked out were those who ran and actually got somewhere.  My little sister wasn't thrown out, but the pair (level 2 and 3, if memory serves) who made it to Pheonix were sent to Cross Creek Mannor.  I often wonder what's become of them.

Do you think your time in the program has effected you now?  I've always been caught between the thought that I really don't seem to be the same (very passive, terrified of social situations to the point where I can barely walk out in public) and the the thought that I am blaming the program for my own faults, and that I'm just a coward.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: May 16, 2005, 09:32:00 AM »
That's crazy, but lucky.  Well, except for the end.

How did the level system work at SRA?  We just had the (to my understanding) basic 1-5 setup.  Occasionally there were jokes about there being a level 0 or even in one instance, -1, but for the most part the administration kept to the 1-5.

I got demoted from level 5 to 3 for 8 months while the school began going through financial straights - my parents were some of the few who always paid their bills on time and never seemed to care that they paid more than other families, and keeping me around was an asset.  They made up some bullshit reason why I "wasn't ready" for level 5 anymore, and I don't remember it, nor do I care.  I thankfully got my own look at their finances (you should password more than just your screensaver, dipshits) and memos on a few occasions, enough to draw my own conclusions about my demotion.

I loved how cloak and dagger you had to be around there.  It provided an excellent sub-plot to spice up the boredom of living in one of those hell holes.  

Nite Owl - please refer to their website.  http://www.ccacademy.net/
They are still going VERY strong.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: May 16, 2005, 02:14:00 AM »
Ah yeah, the good ol' giver-taker.

Congrats on making it so far on your run (forgive me for being "negative"...).  I never had the courage to run, I was a coward before brainwashing and even more of a coward afterwords.  The only students to really make it far during my stay were a pair of gals who made it to Phoenix.  My little sister (not sure if that's what y'all called your mentor program) ran also - that was embarassing.  She didn't make it very far though, the cops found her 2 blocks away hidden in some bushes.

I don't think it's crazy to run to an old staff's place - it makes more sence than running to your family or trying to live on the streets.  At least that staff member saw what life was like there and could empathize with your position potentially.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: May 12, 2005, 01:46:00 PM »
Yeah, Seqoia was far from a good program shrink - he was too laid back.  But considering I just wanted to get the hell out of there, I didn't mind at all.

We did a similar thing to the boat - I think it was a blizard or something, but in the end it came down to a life or death choice.  Because I was the youngest and nerdiest out of the students (and had never had sex or done any drugs at the time I was admited - just had severe depression problems) people were always choosing me to die.  I was "confronted" about this in the discussion afterwords, as if being told by everyone you live with that they'd rather see you dead wasn't bad enough.  Linda told me that everyone choose for me to die because I didn't do anything worthwhile for other people.

Which was bullshit - before CCA even had a fucking teacher, I was helping tutor people in their classes, which was damn sad, an 8th grader helping sophmores and juniors in their classes.  But that wasn't good enough, apparently.  Not "worthwhile" by their junkie standards.

It's so nice now to be able to tell people who don't apreciate what I do for them to fuck off and die.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: May 10, 2005, 05:41:00 PM »
Ah, Sonja.  That was her name.  We just nicknamed her "bulldog" and that's all I could remember.  Actually, they were suposed to be on the ground floor of CCA, but Tammy pushed them out... guess she learned some business values from this Jeannie woman.  Linda and Sonja started their own school, Blue Hills Academy.  It was a disaster, and in one instance a student beat Linda's husband with a shovel.  If only it was her being beaten.

Yes, I remember Sequoia.  He was a kind person but questionable in his "effectiveness" to the administration, and joined CCA a few months before I left.  I was transfered to his caseload, and was greatful for it.  It was nice to be left alone for once.

Did you have to do Linda and Sonja's "Workshops"?  Like that retarded one where you had to dance around until the group felt you were being "authentic"?  Christ, I hated that crap.  So did my family, actually - they walked out on their first workshop and never attended another.  If only I had the liberty to do the same at the time.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: May 08, 2005, 11:40:00 PM »
At the time I attended Copper Canyon Accademy (Jan 1998 - May 2000), it was a mess.  I was considered their "first student", although technically this is incorect.  One girl was there breifly before me, for only two or three months.  I watched the school grow from having a "max" populaton of 12, 16, 20, 24 to finally around 36.  The consultant who sent me there was named Jill Porter, a miserable woman who was more than happy to send me to a school she had never seen, and never would visit until over a year after it's founding.

The original core Copper Canyon Academy staff consisted of Tammy Behrman (sp on last name), Patty Bowman, and Judy (last name unknown, an elderly caucasion woman).  Tammy operated the school out of her house, a 5 bedroom home in Camp Verde, AZ.  She and her husband lived downstairs, and students upstairs.  Linda Cathcart (once again, sp) was the practicing therapist, and was joined by a female friend of hers (name forgotten).  All these staff members came from a school called Spring Ridge Academy - apparently, Tammy was a part owner of that program, but her partner somehow tricked her out of her share.  She claimed to be upset with the way the school was ran, but in truth from what I have read, ran CCA almost identically to SRA.  CCA claimed to have many things - equine therapy, tailored educational services, and a professonal staff and atmosphere.  It had none of these.  The staff were terrible, and on one occasion, a staff member came in drunk to work.  Many of the staff members were not qualified to work at anything more than Wal-Mart or Chevron, but were allowed to stay on because they were friends of Tammy's through the mormon church.

The school began doing much better once Tammy removed herself from power (although not from profit, as she still collected a sallry even while doing nothing).  Once her brother, Darren, began running admisions and having a say in how the school was ran, things became much better.  Also, the therapists Terry and Mark made a significant change to school policy, and made it a much more humane place, in which one was less likely to be punished for the whims of a staff-member.  These two therapists left, however, they were replaced by staff that were, in my opinion, of equal caliber.

5 years have passed sence I attended CCA, and things are much different, and while I hope the program has become more professional and honest, I wonder how much this can be in a culture of deception fostered from the program's birth.  I can personally say CCA made me worse, not better.  My learning disability was ignored, my issues regarding social phobia were never addressed, and I left a much more passive and fearful person than when I started.  I was unlucky in that I entered CCA at a young age - 13 years old.  Older students seem to have delt with their experiences far more constructively, and I wish them the best of luck.

I could fill pages about what I think about this program, but it isn't relevant.  CCA is dangerous because the woman who started it is dangerous.

Please forgive my spelling errors, but I haven't the time to proofread this.

~Liz

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Hey Micalah,

It's Liz Gibson.  Nice to know you're still around and kicking.

~Liz

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Copper Canyon Academy
« on: April 18, 2005, 06:13:00 PM »
I am a former student of this institution, from Jan 1998 to May 2000, and I am seeking others.  Irronically, I was miserable before it, but had never taken serrious action against my own life until after it.

Thank you for your time,

Liz
[ This Message was edited by: disk_pusher on 2005-04-18 16:05 ]

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