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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Looking for Cedu alumni
« on: October 23, 2007, 09:01:03 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Gabrielle,

I left Cedu in 91. I wound up working at Cascade for 7 years. There were a few people there who took a different approach, but in the end there were still many abusive "counselors," under-educated, untrained, and spewing a lot of the old party rhetoric. I left when I realized I was banging my head against a steel wall.



I actually went to Academy at Swiftriver as Director of Counseling to help Rudy but I lasted six months before I realized what I had gotten myself in to! Since then I have been working as a therapist and it is much more my calling.

For the past 18 months I have been living in Bangkok, Thailand as a Psychologist and loving it here.



I have had to make amends with some former students. I know there were times when I was "over the top."

I will never forget when I first started at Cedu and was told my a staff member there I consider abusive beyond all decent norms, "Your degrees and and 10 years experience working with kids means shit here. You need to learn to do it our way."

Unfortunately, while the Emotional Growth industry has done some good things,. there are some abusive and "sick" people working in some of them and doing damage along the way.



If i was ever verbally abusive to anyone readin this post, I can only offer my sincere aplogies. Please no I never had ill intentions.


Thanks Carl.....
Thailand! Wow good stuff.
I am on that side of the world from time to time for work and it is beautiful..

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Rudy
« on: October 23, 2007, 08:57:23 PM »
I know we all walked away with resentment, pain and a constant fear or getting our asses handed to us on a daily basis.

I know Rudy was no saint and I feel, really I do for people he "had it out for".

I just think there were other staff members who made Rudy look tame.
Again, just my opinion.

But after all i said and done and now that so many years have gone by I just had to let it go. It was what it was. I am still very close to some of my old CEDU friends Shannon K for example and we talk about it sometimes but it had now faded into the ancient history I always wished it could be.

The school and those who preached it's message are sick, money hungry parasites. They fed off of kids who needed some real help and charged the parents insane amounts of money for beating the kids into submission.

I look back now and see there were things that I went through that were good, not just good but some of them life altering but it came from my peers and not the staff it came from the comraderie that is created when one feels hopeless and desperate. We banded together and created these bonds as one would do in a concentration camp...because we were so fucking terrified we needed each other.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Fire
« on: October 23, 2007, 08:49:43 PM »
Quote from: ""dishdutyfugitive""
house around the pit bitches


Buahahahahha
That just made me shoot coffee out of my nose.

:-)

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Dan Earle
« on: December 17, 2004, 10:32:00 PM »
He only visited when I was there but I know one person who he sexually abused when she was a student there. She is horribly messed up now. Is he still a part of CEDU/RMA? Where is he now....

God, I hope not working with kids.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Rudy
« on: December 17, 2004, 10:21:00 PM »
I guess this is directed at me.
I have no idea who you are or what years you attended CEDU-RS. I can only speak of my experience there (grad 89) with Rudy and honestly if it were not for him I probably wouldn't have escaped without massive amounts of emotional damage from the lovely and untrained staff at CEDU-RS.

Maybe I was one of the "favored", it's possible. I actually saw Rudy go head to head with Jill since she liked to use me as her own "emotional punching bag" in raps, on the floor, wherever she could.

I can think of a whole slew of staff who were "worse" than Rudy. How about Dan Earle? How about jill bentz and that shrill voice calling every girl on campus a whore and slut? How about Guy Bonano for Christ Sake???? I could hear him screaming in the kitchen when he was leading a rap on the other side of the property when he wasn't grabing students and airlifting them off the floor.

I am not saying Rudy is a saint. I am only saying that he treated me and my family with a frankness that got him in trouble on many an occasion. I know I was a thorn in the side of CEDU and I know he got tons of shit for backing me....from his wife as well.

I will never forget what happened to me there and some of my only pleasant memories are of Rudy and Jen Poulsen.....

*end rant*

G

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Looking for Cedu alumni
« on: December 17, 2004, 10:02:00 PM »
Wow...Carl!
Long time. Thanks so much for your post. Your words were very kind.

When did you leave?

How are you?

G

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / SPLITTING
« on: December 04, 2004, 03:32:00 AM »
I graduated in 89.
I never split...just bolted from a rap only to get cornered in my dorm by Lori and Pam...come to think of it Jill was there too.

Man...it has been a million years since I was there. I never talk about it. It seems to cultish for anyone to understand. I tried some therapy but still have massive anxiety attacks when I think about it.

when were you there?

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Rudy
« on: December 04, 2004, 03:30:00 AM »
I have to disagree.
Jen Poulsen was a friend and so was Rudy. I know how both of them feel about CEDU and they have never claimed to feel any other way. They were both victims of the school. Each to varying degrees.

Rudy was even told at one point to not talk to my parents.

Guess he was getting a little too honest with them.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Looking for Cedu alumni
« on: December 04, 2004, 03:20:00 AM »
Quote
On 2003-04-01 13:07:00, Tim wrote:

"I was there in 88 to 90, tim.king@stanford.edu,

who or what are you looking for exactly?

feel free to e-mail me,

Tim"


Tim you silly one!
It's Gabrielle. (Grad 89)

Remember me?

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / I am up at 3am 17 years after I split Cedu
« on: December 04, 2004, 03:11:00 AM »
Indeed you are not.
I was there graduated in 89.

It leaves scars that never seem to heal. I know that sounds corney but it is the truth.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Does anyone know what happened with Jennifer Pulsen?
« on: December 04, 2004, 03:06:00 AM »
Jen has disappeared.
Andy Grenier doesn;t know where she is and I have been looking for her for 10 years.

She was a good friend and CEDU was a horrible experience for her.

I miss her horribly

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Naming Names
« on: December 04, 2004, 02:33:00 AM »
you mean students....
right?

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / wondering about ex-staff
« on: December 04, 2004, 02:21:00 AM »
jennifer P was a very close friend of mine while I was at CEDU (I graduated in 89) and after. She was once a student there and was a mess from her experience. She was so broken. I have been looking for her for over 10 years. She called me one day came over gave me a hug and disappeared.

Andy Grenier was involved at my mothers school for awhile and he also did not know where she went. I worry about her all the time.

The things that happened to her at the hands of the staff were unspeakable.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Running Springs --- Any info on the following
« on: December 04, 2004, 02:16:00 AM »
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On 2004-05-03 16:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What happened to staff Laurie Saunders and Jim Johnson?



Wanda? Bruce? Penelope?



Alex's wife (he ran theater) who worked there after he came aboard and was treated like crap for being a nice person?



Pam Abell and her hubs Mark?



Did any of these people realize what a cult this place was?



"


Pam abell is still there. Jim Johnson is around my mom talks to him a few times a year. Lauri Saunders cut my hair and tortured me for 2 and a half years so I don;t keep up on her whereabouts. :wink: Bruce was a DOLL. I hope he is okay. I know Andy Grenier is living in NYC and Santa barbara.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / SPLITTING
« on: December 04, 2004, 02:09:00 AM »
well I know for me my mother was told BY STAFF to tell me that if I split I was being sent to Provo. This was during the "hot curling iron" years. She told me this.

Needless to say I was not going to go anywhere but once when I did try to go I was "cornered" by Pam and Lori and told I would be "stopped".

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