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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: D??&am on April 30, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
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just picked up my boy from Darrington Acadamy.....he saw us came out crying....and we left I just got back and ....i feel much better ....and he to
thanks peeps for giving me some feedback here !!!
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Glad to hear it.
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Congratulations and thank you. ::heart:: :tup:
Immortality: A toy which people cry for, And on their knees apply for, Dispute, contend and lie for, And if allowed Would be right proud Eternally to die for.
--Ambrose Bierce
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On 2005-04-30 19:16:00, D?æ???? wrote:
"just picked up my boy from Darrington Acadamy.....he saw us came out crying....and we left I just got back and ....i feel much better ....and he to
thanks peeps for giving me some feedback here !!! "
Thank you so much for getting your son out of there... I'll sleep better tonight knowing that another child was rescued.
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On 2005-04-30 19:16:00, D?????? wrote:
"just picked up my boy from Darrington Acadamy.....he saw us came out crying....and we left I just got back and ....i feel much better ....and he to
thanks peeps for giving me some feedback here !!! "
Will you please call Georgia Department of Family and Children's Services (DFACS) and tell them what happened to your son there, and follow it up with a letter for their files?
It's really important, for the sake of other children, to start building a paper trail track record on these facilities as soon as possible. Darrington is in Blue Ridge, which is in Fannin County, if I'm correct.
If they aren't sure if a law was broken, you may want to tell them you've since found out an organization their key people are strongly associated with, WWASPS, has a record of a lot of allegations of abuse and usually says the kids are lying, and that you would like your experience to go in their file so that when they get an abuse complaint (and I personally believe there will be complaints) they will have your contact information and your account in helping to corroborate the background details of the complaint from your own experience.
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Fannin County Department of Family and Children Services
990 E. Main, Suite 10
Blue Ridge, GA, 30513
(706) 632-2296
Brenda Crawford
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If you feel Darrington's services were misrepresented to you, will you please also send a letter saying so, with a copy of your DFACS letter attached, to the attorney general of the state of Georgia?
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Office of the Attorney General of Georgia
Thurbert E. Baker
40 Capital Square, SW
Atlanta, GA 30334
404-656-3300
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I'm a voter in Georgia and I don't want WWASPS seminars and the other harm they do, in my opinion, allegedly (ahem) allegedly, going on in my home state.
I know you're in the middle of a family crisis right now, but it could really help other kids for DFCS and the GA Attorney General's office to know you were dissatisfied with Darrington, and why.
Darrington just opened up here, and it is important that they not be able to create the illusion of a track record with lots and lots of satisfied parents and no problems. It's important that dissatisfied parents start letting the local authorities know what their experience was, even if you don't think any laws were broken, from the very beginning.
That way, when someone else complains, and maybe they will have experienced something that breaks the laws, and their reports of their experience substantially tallies with your reports of your experience and you're child's experience, then the facility has a much harder time *credibly* saying that the other kid and his parents are lying.
It's a bit like building a case against someone for sexual harrassment or child molestation (strictly for example--not alleging this about Darrington)---establishing a pattern is important, whether the laws were provably, actionably breached in your "pattern" witnesses' cases or not. Establishing the pattern bolsters the case when you actually get the complaint you can take into court.
It's very important that even if you don't think you have a provable case, you contact DFCS and the AG's office. Tell them that from what you now know of the organization, you expect it will be only a matter of time before they will have a case, and that you want to make yourself and your son available to them to help in establishing the pattern for *that* case when and if (but I believe when) it arises down the road.
Thank you in advance, so much, for doing this.
It just breaks my heart that these people have set up shop here in Georgia.
Timoclea
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You should make a report to the authorities if your son experienced or witnessed any abuse at the facility. You may need to look at the laws in Georgia. I don't think many states have rules in place for youth programs yet. It really is a new industry.
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detleg - thank you.
BTW, I'm in NC, so I'm not exactly all that far away. Impiety: Your irreverence toward my deity.
--Ambrose Bierce
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What Parent refers to people as peeps? That is a term used in hip hop and by teens today?Very interesting. Is this a Troll?
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On 2005-05-01 01:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-04-30 19:16:00, D?æ???? wrote:
"just picked up my boy from Darrington Acadamy.....he saw us came out crying....and we left I just got back and ....i feel much better ....and he to
thanks peeps for giving me some feedback here !!! "
Thank you so much for getting your son out of there... I'll sleep better tonight knowing that another child was rescued. "
I do not know your child but I hope that he doesn't go back to being the kind of child that he was before, because you believed all these idiots. These people are obviously former students. IF you go back and look at the conversations of the people who are trying to "save kids" they are very vulger and negative people. I bet your son was very motivated at getting drugs and alcohol. In fact he ran away to get it. These people are not that far from being like your son. Thanks for helping me feel better about where my son is.
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On 2005-05-02 07:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
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I bet your son was very motivated at getting drugs and alcohol. In fact he ran away to get it. These people are not that far from being like your son. Thanks for helping me feel better about where my son is. "
More propaganda. You know nothing about this person yet you are feeding in the same old stuff weve all heard before....and that usually wasnt even true.
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If he DOES need help, it doesnt make sense to put him in a place like that...you did the right thing. There are lots of other options out there, including family therapy.
Dont give up!!
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I do not know your child but I hope that he doesn't go back to being the kind of child that he was before, because you believed all these idiots. These people are obviously former students. IF you go back and look at the conversations of the people who are trying to "save kids" they are very vulger and negative people. I bet your son was very motivated at getting drugs and alcohol. In fact he ran away to get it. These people are not that far from being like your son. Thanks for helping me feel better about where my son is. "
1. You know nothing about this man or his son, yet you allow yourself to make assumptions and throw around insults. And then you move on to complaining about "vulgar" and "negative" people. You should take a long, hard look in the mirror.
2. Regardless of the way people here may talk or react to your propaganda (why wouldn't our reactions be negative, considering the fact that you are promoting an abuse, destructive cult?), the fact stands that all of WWASP's facilities are highly abusive, and this man did the right thing by protecting his son and taking him someplace safe-- home.
3. "In fact he ran away to get it. These people are not that far from being like your son."-- and you know that how, exactly...?
4. "Thanks for helping me feel better about where my son is."-- So, you feel good about paying someone to physically, emotionally, and perhaps even sexually abuse your child. That's sick.
Detleg,
You did the right thing. As a parent, you have an obligation to ensure your child's safety and well-being, and you did just that, by taking him out of an abusive facility.
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***It's very important that even if you don't think you have a provable case, you contact DFCS and the AG's office.
Also, CC the Office of Regulatory Services:
Two Peachtree Street, N.W.
Atlanta, Georgia 30303-3142
(404)657-5700
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You don't even know if this is a troll or not.
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Lemme repeat myself:
I've never been in a program!
Now, that done, if I'm 'rude' or 'negative' its because I'm a little ticked off that people get paid to torture and brainwash children they're allowed to kidnap while their parents smugly delude themselves and the kid is cut off from outside help.
If you think I WOULDNT get mad about that, then youre in a bubble world. We need cops.
We can't live without 'em.
But they need to start working for us....
That's no longer an option.
They've pushed it.
They've gone to far.
They've just gone to far.
Tom Crosslin
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"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
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you all suck
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On 2005-05-02 07:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-05-01 01:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-04-30 19:16:00, D?æ???? wrote:
"just picked up my boy from Darrington Acadamy.....he saw us came out crying....and we left I just got back and ....i feel much better ....and he to
thanks peeps for giving me some feedback here !!! "
Thank you so much for getting your son out of there... I'll sleep better tonight knowing that another child was rescued. "
I do not know your child but I hope that he doesn't go back to being the kind of child that he was before, because you believed all these idiots. These people are obviously former students. IF you go back and look at the conversations of the people who are trying to "save kids" they are very vulger and negative people. I bet your son was very motivated at getting drugs and alcohol. In fact he ran away to get it. These people are not that far from being like your son. Thanks for helping me feel better about where my son is. "
Parents of former students or former students that are now grown adults with teenagers of our own who should know quite well the difference between hurt and help.
Government operates best when it allows all messengers to offer their views, allowing the American people to decide which take root and which wither away.
--Harold Furchtgott-Roth, member of the Federal Communications Commission
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On 2005-05-04 11:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"you all suck "
Yeah, that's what Randal said :rofl: Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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I've never been in a Program.
But I paid attention in my college psych. classes when they described the abuses that "used to" happen in mental institutions. And the programs sound a lot like some of the bad old mental institutions.
And having a mental illness (stable on meds, thanks), and the parent of a kid with a mental illness, and having other family members with the same, I have a vested interest in seeing residential care is *quality* care and is not abusive or otherwise harmful.
Vulgar? Sure, when I get pissed off. So? Most people just don't find anything wrong with that. That *you* find it such a big thing to condemn says more about you than about us.
Alcohol? Rarely. Most months I don't have any alcohol, and when I do it's maybe one or two drinks in a month. The exception would be when I have a cold, in which case I'll have a single drink before bed because it at least seems to shorten how long I have the cold. I catch a cold maybe three or four times a year. Always been kinda susceptible to the various bugs that go around.
Drugs? Only my prescribed psychiatric meds. Never tried marijuana. Don't want to. Did acid twice in college out of curiosity. The second time was because the first stuff was exceptionally weak. I wanted to know what a hallucination looked like. It was a pretty stupid thing to do, but college students occasionally do stupid things. Not interested in doing it again.
Little Miss Perfect? No. Pretty much your average suburban housewife, except I'm also a published author and the first book did rather well.
Other than that, I mostly spend my spare time down at the dojo assisting with the kids classes or taking classes myself.
I don't think the dad who just pulled his son out of a Program would be exactly broken-hearted if his kid more or less turned out like me.
Just a guess.
I think he probably might think his grown son was a little strange and a little *too* uptight if no swear words whatsoever ever passed his lips, though.
But if never swearing is your big claim to being a good person, well, whatever flips your lid.
Timoclea
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I don't think the dad who just pulled his son out of a Program would be exactly broken-hearted if his kid more or less turned out like me.
I'd be horrified if any of my children turned out to be anything like what I have seen here of you! Thankfully, my kids are much more mature and respectful!
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I agree. All these children are completely insane. Why won't they accept the fact they were terrible teens, and their parents had no choice to send them away for their own welfare. I tell you, back in my day we would have simply tied you up to the chicken wire and let the crows have a time with you! Not to mention the switch, boy, my pah used to make me cut it down myself!
Kids these days expect everything and don't want to do any work. In my opinion, we should reinstate a military draft, and shapen this generation right up. These facilities are a start, however they need to be greatly expanded. We should replace public schools with teen behavior modification programs at the very least.
Have you been to a city lately? The kids with their hip hop afro music, outrageous clothes and crazy ideas are turning our country into a third world country. I can barely go into walmart these days without being harrased by some punk kid.
Kids these days...
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On 2005-05-04 15:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I don't think the dad who just pulled his son out of a Program would be exactly broken-hearted if his kid more or less turned out like me.
I'd be horrified if any of my children turned out to be anything like what I have seen here of you! Thankfully, my kids are much more mature and respectful!"
Well, that makes you a case in point as a control-freak Program Parent who is willing to send basically normal kids to be brainwashed just because they don't live up to *your* idea of perfection.
You not only haven't earned my respect, you've earned my lack of respect by supporting, in my opinion, wilfull child neglect.
I show plenty of respect to the other martial artists, students and instructors, at the dojo.
I show plenty of respect to the parents.
I show plenty of respect to the users on the forum I moderate.
I show plenty of respect to my spouse, my neighbors, my parents, my relatives, and even my dog.
But I *don't* respect people who, in my opinion, hurt children or defend those who hurt children. I do not believe you deserve my respect.
I also do not believe you even know the meaning of the word "maturity." Real maturity means accepting that there are not only limits to what you can control, there are limits to what you should control, and limits to what you should even attempt to control.
Real maturity means when you deal with other people's lives, you know when to pull back and respect their need to make their own choices and their own mistakes and to choose for themselves who and what they are going to be.
You don't display any of that.
On the contrary, you (if you are the same anon who accused everyone who advocates against the program of being a drunk or a druggie, or patted yourself on the back so enthusiastically for your allegedly lily-white mouth) display a mind caught up in the cult myth that everybody who is not part of your little cult and who is actively critical of the cult must have certain specific horrible attributes. Why did you assume that? Why, because it's an article of faith in your cult, that's why.
Of course you'd be horrified if your child turned out like me. You'd be horrified at *any* child who not only didn't follow you into the cult but also made a practice of criticizing your cult.
Which kindof proves the point the rest of us were trying to make.
Thank you so much for your kind assistance.
Timoclea
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On 2005-05-04 15:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I don't think the dad who just pulled his son out of a Program would be exactly broken-hearted if his kid more or less turned out like me.
I'd be horrified if any of my children turned out to be anything like what I have seen here of you! Thankfully, my kids are much more mature and respectful!"
I'll be extremely broken-hearted if my daughter turns out anything like you! I will be horrified if she ever goes on to a Survivor-type forum and ridicules people's pain just to serve her own need to feel as though some selfish move she made was justified.