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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 20, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
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Does anyone on this web site have a life? I went to the Whitmore and I heared about this website through my mom. personaly I think it is very childish to beat the dead horse
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And do you consider child abuse a "dead horse?"
It just takes time for a criminal investigation to take place, and for charges to be filed.
The abuse of children by the Sudweeks took place over a long long period of time--and an investigation takes time, TOO.
No one is "beating a dead horse." People are being interviewed, and giving statements. Victims and witnesses live in many different states.
No one is relying on "gossip." Witnesses and victims are giving factual statements. It is as simply as that.
Perhaps if you want to read about HORSES, you can read about the animal abuse case the Sudweeks LOST up in Canada. Now that's a HORSE story that might open your eyes to the type of people you are talking about. This transcript is not "gossip." It is filled with facts about the Suds and their horrific treatment of helpless animals.
http://www.animaladvocates.com/ILLEGAL- ... dweeks.htm (http://www.animaladvocates.com/ILLEGAL-SEZURES/Regina-v.Sudweeks.htm)
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To HELL with Discovery/Whitmore!!!
They have their heads so far up their own asses that they couldn't get Theodore Cleaver straight! :lol:
If you are interested in some REAL drug treatment, come & check out SIBS:
http://fornits.com/SIBS (http://fornits.com/SIBS)
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When I was at the whitmore I was doing the horse thing and the horses were good and healthy I don't know about the whole Canada thing. Their horses now are fine. Child abuse is a horrable thing and if I saw any while I was at the whitmore I would have deffently said something.
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You were doing horses at Whitmore? Ewww...more than I needed to know... :lol:
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your a funny one
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On 2005-04-20 08:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Does anyone on this web site have a life? I went to the Whitmore and I heared about this website through my mom. personaly I think it is very childish to beat the dead horse"
Speaking of animal abuse:
http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/animalcruelty.pdf (http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/animalcruelty.pdf)
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Ex-student: you were just given 2 sites to read about the horse/animal abuse. Take the time to READ...then let us know what you think.
You may need to go on the internet and read a bit about child abuse too. Perhaps you don't recognize "abuse," either.
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Ex-student: you were just given 2 sites to read about the horse/animal abuse. Take the time to READ...then let us know what you think.
You may need to go on the internet and read a bit about child abuse too. Perhaps you don't recognize "abuse," either.
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Who do you think you are I know what abuse is alright its not funny stuff If I had seen any abuse at the whitmore from the staff I wouldn't have gone back after I was taking out
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gossip is just that...we all know it when we see (hear) it....some of us feel the need to reveal the insidious seed..a duty to act,thus preventing the recurring attacks...not that we know jack..just the alleged facts...wait upon the judgment stone...she most probably will fall from her self proclaimed throne......AMF
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To the former student:
Welcome to this forum. Parents are interested in your view of Whitmore Academy.
How long were you at Whitmore?
How did you view your academic education?
Did you enjoy the travel study? What did you learn from them?
Are you in contact with other former students?
How long have you been home now? Are you in high school, or college?
How are things going with your family?
We do care to hear the positive, too.
Thank you for posting.
You may want to register--using a "made up name" so we can know when you post. Some former students use names like: Whitmore Alumni...HOWBIZZARE...Mr. Bean...Whitmore Shining Star (not their real names). Thanks
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telephone rang surprising this keyboard .......love to read the posts//but dang.......haunting like a ghost....AMF
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joyce, this is the former student, i changed my name. if you will would you send me a private message with some of the contact information that you were talking about :question: :smile:
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Hi Former Student: Just sent you a private message.
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Question for the student who "saw no abuse at Whitmore:"
Did you ever see a student denied food as a form of punishment?
Ever see a kid's journal read aloud in group?
Ever heard of the "duck room" or the "shelf?"
Ever see a kid made to wear "the clothes?"
Ever seen a kid's head shaved?
Ever say a kid pushed, shoved, slapped--just a little when the kid was really really being a total JERK?
Ever heard a minority kid being called a "nigger?
Ever kept up til the wee hours for GROUP?
Ever have to skip breakfast and lunch because the kids were going to eat dinner at a BUFFET?
Ever see a bad kid spit on?
Ever see any of this?
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joyce would you mind sending me a private message with some of the kids contace info in it please? :question:
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i was there for eleven months and i saw all of that except a kids head shaved
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And you don't think that is abuse?? You have a misconstrued view on the word abuse, then. Was anyone forced to live in the closet on the third floor while you were there?
Yes, a closet, not even a closet you could stand up in. It was about three feet high, maybe 6 feet long. Big enough to sleep in.
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i never said that i didn't think that was abuse. i witnesses a lot of it. and kids were made to sleep in the closet on the second floor when were you there??
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On 2005-04-20 11:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Question for the student who "saw no abuse at Whitmore:"
Did you ever see a student denied food as a form of punishment?
Ever see a kid's journal read aloud in group?
Ever heard of the "duck room" or the "shelf?"
Ever see a kid made to wear "the clothes?"
Ever seen a kid's head shaved?
Ever say a kid pushed, shoved, slapped--just a little when the kid was really really being a total JERK?
Ever heard a minority kid being called a "nigger?
Ever kept up til the wee hours for GROUP?
Ever have to skip breakfast and lunch because the kids were going to eat dinner at a BUFFET?
Ever see a bad kid spit on?
Ever see any of this?
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Actually the duck room is very nice. I lived in there for half the time I was there.
hb
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Corture:
You are getting "Former Student" mixed up with the former student who said he/she saw no abuse at Whitmore. It is two separate students posting.
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The "duck room" has some bad memories for some students. Cheryl ordered the boy who was abused be taken to the "duck room" and he was beaten in there for 3 hours straight. So he sure wouldn't say it was a nice room. Not at all. Just try to imagine being beat up that long. Terrible!
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corture who are you when were you there?? i was there from 03-04
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oh, i see
Confusing, when people post anonomously.
Former student.... I was there in 02
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I think it is funny that everyone says 'corture'. :grin:
~CoUture
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where was the duck room??
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The "duck room" is at the top of the stairs at the Whitmore Mansion.
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I think, the "duck room" is the bathroom at the boy's house -- the one decorated with the rubber duckies.
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nope--it's at the Mansion. Ask MS. Cheryl..she knows. When she's in a rage during a GROUP and screams "Get him the hell out of here!" That just might be where HE ends up.
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On 2005-04-20 09:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ex-student: you were just given 2 sites to read about the horse/animal abuse. Take the time to READ...then let us know what you think.
You may need to go on the internet and read a bit about child abuse too. Perhaps you don't recognize "abuse," either."
Another area that may be of interest to you.
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http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/sudweeks.pdf (http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/sudweeks.pdf)
(forgot the link) :lol:
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On 2005-04-20 14:37:00, Joyce Harris wrote:
"The "duck room" is at the top of the stairs at the Whitmore Mansion."
The top of the stairs on the third floor or second?
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Top of the second floor on the left side---is the "duck room"
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I remember this room. When they first moved into the mansion, one of the boys wanted it as his room. It had a shelf up top and some small stairs leading up to it. It was small- like a closet, but a little bigger- but at the time there was a door on the other side of the room (opposite of the entrance door) that led straight outside to a 2 story drop. It scared me because I thought- DAMN, if he rolls over in his sleep- he will fall right out the house!! Does it still have that drop??
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that's not the duck room, the duck room is to left of that "room".
howbizarre
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Thank you- I will have to ask my kid about it.
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All of their rooms are fuckin ugly as shit. that mansion is a giant old musty doll house. The walls are infested with mice as well as the food your children eat. I remember i used to sleep in the carriage room and i could hear the mice through the damn walls! Cheryl's room looks the shitiest! YEAH YOU ShErY why don u get your fat ass down there and clean it ur self. Is it because they are your "sand nigg*rs"?????? [ that word u used to looooove soooooo much} you'll go to hell. Don't worry about that . You're a stupid, FAT, racist bitch. You have no life. Your own kids don't feel close to you Laeysa even used to tell me all the time.
Their plumbing sux too. Always cold showers and only two minutes. That wasn't even enough time for me to scrub the accumalated dirt off my left toe that had been their for months and months!!!! :lol:
The Whitmore {a.k.a. SHITmore} is full of lies, hatred and crazy people like cherly and markie pooh.
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THE SHITTMOORREEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
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My daughter was a student at Whitmore, and she is a minority--and Cheryl Sudweeks called her a "Sand Nigger," and a "Rag Head." Seems Cheryl used racist slurs a lot. She called the only black student there a "Nigger," all the time. And the Suds call themselves religious--and ram the Mormon church down these kids' throats all the time. Does make me sick to my stomach. If any type of "teacher" or school official in our state used such racial slurs, they would be dismissed from their jobs.... sued, and arrested!!!!!!
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cut to the chase..we all (the cognitive ones)will wait for the official results........but regardless of the outcome.........DON'T send your children to WHITMORE ACADEMY, less none of this appears creditable.........there are other alternatives.......and several good ones for about one third the price..........put this tweaking doll on ice......she is not so nice........going down, oh don't forget that clown MARK..........heard he kept three families money................some of you supporters know he lied to you.......call him on his crap...............he is part of this nightmare......THE LAW IS COMING, AND HELL IS FOLLOWING............AMF
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The Families who Mark Sudweeks kept your money:
Don't stand for that!!!! Get an attorney and make that WHIMP give you your money back!
Read your contract, page by page and see where the Sud default on each and every page.
Come on folks! They didn't even feed your kids.
There was no school!
There was not adequate therapy!
Your kids were exposed to abuse!
Get your money back!
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TO THE PERSON WHO TITLED THIS MESSAGE BOARD-- why do people love gossip--this is not gossip- this is COMMUNICATION. :grin: :grin:
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does anybody know how Leah did in the trial who won???
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Joyce
If someone called my child a sand nigger i've have her tounge.She's be choking on it.The woman sounds nuts.Plain and simple.
Dont take any shit off of Sue Scheff either.She owes you and every other parent an apology not a letter from her attorney.
Give her attorney some real facts and tell him no threats please or you'll see HIM in court too.
How dare they treat kids like that.You girl is so young. Just a baby. Cheryl sounds like a crazy bitch.
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http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... =9&start=0 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?Sort=&mode=viewtopic&topic=9251&forum=9&start=0)
Write you local congressman and voice your opinion of Representative George Miller's bill.
This isn't gossip, these are crimes and they need to be punishable in a court of law. Right now however, they're not, so let's fight to change that so that these children have rights as human beings. Right now they're being treated worse than animals. The Sudweeks have already been convicted of neglect and abuse of animals. What makes you think they'll care for children any differently? They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children, not even their own.Wicked men obey from fear, good men from love.
--Aristotle
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The whole story soon. Lookin good for Leah -- just don't know yet.
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Thank you Anon,
I don't control Cheryl Sudweeks' racist mind and mouth.
I also don't control Sue Scheff, her attorney, or "certified mail" I must sign for.
It is interesting to read Sue Scheff's testimony in the WWASP VS PURE transcripts: Ms. Scheff's own words criticizing HER REFERRAL COMPANY that placed HER DAUGHTER IN A WWASP SCHOOL are the EXACT same words I have said about Sue Scheff:
" I trusted those people. They seemed to care.
They told me it was a therapeutic horseback riding boarding school, and it had no therapy.
It was fraudenlent due to the fact the sales rep sold the program to me in a different manner, and you can't trust their sales person.
I was desperate. I needed help.
My daughter was a really good child and she was making some really bad choices.
I didn't want to send yer away, but I wanted to help her.
I am only a parent. I was under stress,upset.
I relied and trusted these people."
These are all Sue Scheff's words explaining why she MISTAKENLY trusted HER educational consultant, and placed her daughter in what Sue Scheff claims was an abusive WWASP School.
Those same EXACT words have been spoken BY ME about Sue Sheff's placement of my daughter at Whitmore Academy.
And I maintain--I have the RIGHT to speak. The same RIGHT that Sue Scheff has.
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did you get my private message???
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just wondering do you have the guts to say who you are?
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On 2005-04-21 17:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"All of their rooms are fuckin ugly as shit. that mansion is a giant old musty doll house. The walls are infested with mice as well as the food your children eat. I remember i used to sleep in the carriage room and i could hear the mice through the damn walls! Cheryl's room looks the shitiest! YEAH YOU ShErY why don u get your fat ass down there and clean it ur self. Is it because they are your "sand nigg*rs"?????? [ that word u used to looooove soooooo much} you'll go to hell. Don't worry about that . You're a stupid, FAT, racist bitch. You have no life. Your own kids don't feel close to you Laeysa even used to tell me all the time.
Their plumbing sux too. Always cold showers and only two minutes. That wasn't even enough time for me to scrub the accumalated dirt off my left toe that had been their for months and months!!!! :lol:
The Whitmore {a.k.a. SHITmore} is full of lies, hatred and crazy people like cherly and markie pooh.
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you are you?
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And who are YOU?.....Do you have anything to add you these conversations?
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are you so bored you have to make up stories joyceee. abuse happened over a long long time. slander baby... what you are going to save us from the terrible sudweeks? and the way to do it is by slandering them on fornits? you are abviously lacking for attention. does fornits make you feel good. it does leah and her grandma. people dont need to go to hell to see what kind of people will live there. i am sure it full of people like you, out to save the world of course from people like the sudweeks. i am sure i dont want to spend another minute patronising your sick mind controlling manipulating decietful game. You are a very very very sick woman. i dont have to tell you to go to hell. you obviously are already there.hpe your having fun. outtttttt
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If the Sudweeks think this Joyce Harris has slandered them...why aren't THEY posting here instead of some teenager, or better yet why haven't they sued her? Slander is a serious offense you know?
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OH, now the Sudweeks are dooming people to hell and dooming them thru some kid posting on fornits. What POWER the Sudweeks seem to have. Wow, how scary. Maybe people need to offer up prayer to save this Harris woman from HELL and damnation!!!!!