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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 20, 2005, 12:44:00 AM
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Do they have body guards?All of these scumbag execuitive staff/founders of straight-like programs!
If I EVER saw any of them in public I would definately beat the shit out of them!
Why has this not happened yet?
I think somebody should kill the miserable fuckers,but a good punch in the face would do!
My question is WHY have these scumbags escaped a broken face.Of the countless people who have been in the numerous programs,WHY have not one person had the opportunity to break these fuckers nose?
Do they all live in gated communities with body guards?
I want to torture Miss Pete with an electric drill with a corkscrew attached,but a good jab in the eye would do!
You dont get a very lengthy jail sentence for simple battery.
If you knocked on their door and shot them in the knee cap with a pistol you would get no more than five years if you had a clean record.Thats not attempted murder,its only aggravated assault+five years maximum,probably you would get one year in county jail and four years probation.
Tell me where to find them and I will beat their faces with my bare knuckles,I promise!
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I prefer not to resort to pistols....call me old-fashioned. Fists, knives, cleavers and clubs are much more gratifying to use. :grin:
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But WHY?
Not once have I heard a report that ANY ONE OF THEM has been punched in the nose or kicked in the shins.Why?They have so many enimies,have they ever been confronted by anyone?
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But,why?
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hehe....i saw my most hated staffer get punched square in the face by a 12 year old boy in group one day...produced blood...it was great
:lol:
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On 2005-04-22 10:15:00, groovy1634 wrote:
"hehe....i saw my most hated staffer get punched square in the face by a 12 year old boy in group one day...produced blood...it was great
:lol: "
finally, a happy memory coming out of Straight! :lol:
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But what about recently?
Miss Pete,Sembler (OK,Im sure he has security),Newton Miller,etc,etc.
What about these EXEC Staff?Have they ever been confronted,attacked in the past recent years?
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On 2005-04-22 11:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"But what about recently?
Miss Pete,Sembler (OK,Im sure he has security),Newton Miller,etc,etc.
What about these EXEC Staff?Have they ever been confronted,attacked in the past recent years?"
Although I truly and sincerely understand and appreciate your desires to do this, I can not advocate it. Personally, I'm not gonna go to jail over Virgil--and that is what would happen. "CRAZED DRUGGIE BEATS FORMER REHAB DIRECTOR" is what the headlines would read.
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I do not think beating them would be enough for what they did. We all know that any of us could go to jail and it would be nothing compared to what they put us through. When I think about what kind of punishment would even come close to getting even I think of the movie Silience Of The Lambs or that movie that came out called Saw.
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On 2005-04-22 12:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I do not think beating them would be enough for what they did. We all know that any of us could go to jail and it would be nothing compared to what they put us through. When I think about what kind of punishment would even come close to getting even I think of the movie Silience Of The Lambs or that movie that came out called Saw."
Oh, you're right--beating them would be letting them off easy. Unfortunately, there is no justice in Amerika, so it looks like they're getting away with what they did to us.
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On 2005-04-22 10:15:00, groovy1634 wrote:
"hehe....i saw my most hated staffer get punched square in the face by a 12 year old boy in group one day...produced blood...it was great
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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On 2005-04-19 21:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Do they have body guards?All of these scumbag execuitive staff/founders of straight-like programs!
If I EVER saw any of them in public I would definately beat the shit out of them!
Why has this not happened yet?
I think somebody should kill the miserable fuckers,but a good punch in the face would do!
My question is WHY have these scumbags escaped a broken face.Of the countless people who have been in the numerous programs,WHY have not one person had the opportunity to break these fuckers nose?
Do they all live in gated communities with body guards?
I want to torture Miss Pete with an electric drill with a corkscrew attached,but a good jab in the eye would do!
You dont get a very lengthy jail sentence for simple battery.
If you knocked on their door and shot them in the knee cap with a pistol you would get no more than five years if you had a clean record.Thats not attempted murder,its only aggravated assault+five years maximum,probably you would get one year in county jail and four years probation.
Tell me where to find them and I will beat their faces with my bare knuckles,I promise!"
Your severe mental incompotence is is genuinely frightening. Anger and venting is one thing. Graphic threats is another. Be advised the proper authoririties are being notified. NO excuse for blatent violence and dangerous threats.
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On 2005-04-22 18:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-04-19 21:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Do they have body guards?All of these scumbag execuitive staff/founders of straight-like programs!
If I EVER saw any of them in public I would definately beat the shit out of them!
Why has this not happened yet?
I think somebody should kill the miserable fuckers,but a good punch in the face would do!
My question is WHY have these scumbags escaped a broken face.Of the countless people who have been in the numerous programs,WHY have not one person had the opportunity to break these fuckers nose?
Do they all live in gated communities with body guards?
I want to torture Miss Pete with an electric drill with a corkscrew attached,but a good jab in the eye would do!
You dont get a very lengthy jail sentence for simple battery.
If you knocked on their door and shot them in the knee cap with a pistol you would get no more than five years if you had a clean record.Thats not attempted murder,its only aggravated assault+five years maximum,probably you would get one year in county jail and four years probation.
Tell me where to find them and I will beat their faces with my bare knuckles,I promise!"
Your severe mental incompotence is is genuinely frightening. Anger and venting is one thing. Graphic threats is another. Be advised the proper authoririties are being notified. NO excuse for blatent violence and dangerous threats."
YOU are being an idiot. Get the fuck out of here. How dare you threaten this person. People come here to VENT to other people who will understand the rage. I get it, I understand the rage, and it has been pointed out that not one staff person has ever so much as been assaulted by a Straight survivor. Get a life, get a clue, and get the fuck out until you do. You are being an absolutely pathetic citizen and I have no respect for you. Have you seen the pictures and stories coming out of the WWASPS schools these days? Now there is some REAL LIVE ABUSE AND ASSAULT perpetrated on children. Put your energy into that and leave people alone here who are just trying to deal with all the fury that has been locked up in them for so long.
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that really pissed me off, someone coming here saying they are "notifying the proper authorities." i think it might be Loretta Parrish. that would make perfect sense! :lol:
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I tend to agree. By the way, I'd like to state now that I'd help raise money for any Straight survivor's legal defense should they be charged with assault/murder, etc. against any former Straight staff member. Not that I encourage that sort of thing, but I could see how it could happen....
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Be more creative, and create pain in other ways than physical. Make it *really* hurt. Remember the guy who followed the guy who owns WWASP or something and found a penis pump in his trash? He put the damn thing on ebay, and got a lot of publicity. Pretty funny shit if you ask me. No need to go to jail for these fuckers, but I agree, it would be nice to see them squirm.
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On 2005-04-22 19:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Be more creative, and create pain in other ways than physical."
like you do?
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:smokin:
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On 2005-04-19 21:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
I want to torture Miss Pete with an electric drill with a corkscrew attached,but a good jab in the eye would do!
Oh bullshit! If you wanted to do that, you know very well how to find her and you would have done it by now.
The fact is, we never were the rabid, frothing, dangerous animals they made us out to be. It's all projection.
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Perl Services
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On 2005-04-22 12:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
so it looks like they're getting away with what they did to us.
I don't give a flyin' run at a rollin' doughnut if they get away w/ what they did to us. It's what they have planned for my children that concerns me.
Faith means not wanting to know what is true.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher
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On 2005-04-22 18:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
Be advised the proper authoririties are being notified...
And who are you to deem what are and are not the proper authorities? Have you contacted the author w/ whom you have an issue? He/she would be the ultimate authority. Snitches suck!
It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him.
--Arthur C. Clarke, author
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Drug war POW
Seed `71 - `80
Straight, Sarasota
10/80 - 10/82
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And I have to add them "expose them" is a whole lot more powerful and mutually beneficial than "punish them". Of all the crazy biblical interpretations I've ever heard, "vengence is mine" (occulting ",sayeth the lord") is the most obscene.
Just stop them from taking over your children's future. That's enough. Don't worry about making them suffer. They'll suffer. Need I evoke the image of a parade of 40yo asses past your posh front doorstep?
Shit! We couldn't make their lives peaceful and happy if we wanted to! Don't worry about that. Nature has a way of leveling things.
Just look out for the progeny. We'll do alright if we do that. Even if you hate many things about your parents, you still make your mom's corn fritters for your kids; cause it's a good thing to pass on.
Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul alike.
-- John Muir
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Drug war POW
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Straight, Sarasota
10/80 - 10/82
Anonymity Anonymous
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PSYCHO-RANT ON
Shit! ... Nature has a way of leveling things.
Hmm. While it is true that "nature" has a way of leveling things, how can you be sure that "nature" doesn't employ that which is the problem (human ideals of control through violence) to defeat the problem (human ideals of violence through control). Perhaps someone abducting and returning the favor to those that proliferate this type of behavior is exactly "nature's" plan.
It is the human animal's nature to exact revenge. Never be deluded into thinking that you are nothing more than an animal. What the "Straights" did could be considered a crime against humanity... certainly a crime against children. But to not put an immediate and undeniable end to this could be considered a crime against nature itself. Your job as a good little monkey is to further your gene pool. You do this.. and you protect that end. Straight kills children spiritually and sadly in some cases literally. Perhaps those that committed suicide would have anyway.. but Straight-like programs have to seriously be considered a factor.
So here you have this institution that works directly against nature.. you have a genetic obligation to put an end to it. You may think that doing it "the right" way is the only "civilized" thing to do... Fuck civilization. In the grand scheme of things, our "civilization" is exactly what spawned this creature to begin with. If you think that this type of thing will go away by playing within the rules, you should do the gene-pool a favor and go play in traffic at rush hour. It hasn't gone away in 2 decades.
The-powers-that-be don't really care. If they did, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
You ARE a part of nature. Everything serves a purpose. Everything has a place. Whether this is by design or not can and will be debated forever. Your place is in the now. Do something about your problems... or don't.. Either way... quit whining about it
Burn these buildings to the ground. And if you
can.. catch executive staff in the building. Don't forget your marshmallows.
PSYCHO-RANT OFF
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If someone were to select a proper weapon and have the training to use it excellently, from a good distance, as well as the stealth training to exit the scene without detection, one after another of the criminals could be taken out. This would take away from the up-close and personal satisfaction of torture. However, a pattern of murders would begin to reveal itself. This would be national news. The criminals would then know they were being hunted. They would live for a few days in terror before being eliminated. It is indeed a sick sick pathetic society in which Randall Hinton walks free* without a godamn soul to eliminate him.
If you have suggestions as to satisfactory "civilized" alternative recourses, s'il vous fucking plait post them here.
Nevertheless, I lack such training. And don't the godamn "proper authorities" come knocking at my place of residence. The godamn "proper authorities" perpetrate violence on the incorrect people. They know it in their church-going hearts. The highest instinct of the human race is the protection of children. Boys In Blue, if you are reading this, what the fuck have you done lately to protect children. Perhaps YOU have the training and the worthy alignment of heart and soul to finally use your training for good. If no one avenges Randall Hinton's torture of Layne Brown we will have revealed ourselves once and for all to be the most pathetic species to ever eat, fuck and die.
*http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9179&forum=44
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Graelin, from a purely strategic pov, what do you think would happen if someone captured, tortured and killed Virgil? Do you think the rest of them would say "Oh, gee, I guess we should stop doing these things"? And what would happen to the vindicator? The rest of society would hoist him/her upon their shoulders and carry them through town as a hero?
No, not today. Maybe one day, after the trials. Mean time, we need a whole lot more people to understand wtf is going on in order to get the first real trial going. And, in all honesty, I don't care what happens to the perpetrator. I don't care if they suffer terribly or live out their natural days in blissful self delusion. There are worse monsters than these in this world. My sole focus, or let's say the fulcrum of it, is to eliminate their support and protection and, thereby, their ability to commit future crimes.
Creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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My sole focus, or let's say the fulcrum of it, is to eliminate their support and protection and, thereby, their ability to commit future crimes.
Their ability to commit future crimes would be seriously hindered if they were dead. Better yet, if they were subjected to the same anguish and powerlessness that were thrust upon many that frequent here, perhaps with their newfound perspective on reality they would have a change of heart.
Sadly I can't agree that public awareness will make any difference. It will be like any other hyped up media story... all the rage until something more important comes up in the media. I would say our decision to goto war with another soverign state (unconstitutionally and dare I say dangerously close to illegally) is far more significant to the population at large, but if you take a moment to notice current American events today, you'll find such monumental subjects as Michael Jackson's trial, Steroids in the ballpark and the appointment of some ultraconservative dinosaur to the seat of power within the Holy Sea.
Get a clue.. talk is talk. Nothing you say will make a frog's fart bit of difference. If you think you have what it takes to scream louder than the propaganda that is pumped out by the War on Drugs, by all means.. make some noise. Ultimately that is the obstacle you have to overcome.
Personally, I prefer to cut my losses. My children have nothing to fear from these people. I teach them to question authority. Critical thinking is a lost art. And should they get themselves into a situation that could potentially harm them, people will find out exactly how much of an animal I am. As I've said before, I'm not sure what I would do should I cross my former captors. Vengeance seems applicable, but I really can't say for sure. There is really no reason for me to spend that kind of energy on "them" anymore. "They have sucked enough life out of me. Should they try to do so again my position will have to change.
I have the utmost respect for your take on it. You play in their ballfield. As long as you do, you don't have a prayer of making a significant difference. You either need to re-write the rules, or make your own game. I did.
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On 2005-04-26 15:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
You either need to re-write the rules, or make your own game. I did. "
The way things are set up, challenging authority is just about the least safe path one can follow. Just get a ouija board and ask Peter McWilliams. Or you can email any of a longish list of other proponants of California's Compassionate Use Act w/o need of a ouija board. Sure, Angel Raich and a good many other people are still being persecuted in the DEA's jihad against flowers. However, most Californians are not being prosecuted and the Supremes are currently considering whether or not the Federal prohibition applies in intrastate mmj cases. Evidently, based on the length of time we've all been waiting for an answer, they're considering it rather seriously.
We haven't won that one yet, but we're a good deal closer than we were 10 years ago. Just ask anybody at http://leap.cc/ (http://leap.cc/)
The difference between the MJ war (as a subset) and the troubled parent industry is public perception. A growing number of Americans think people ought to be able to smoke pot if they want to. The vast majority (roughly 70%, even when the AARP conducts a poll) think we ought to be able to use it if we think it'll help a medical condition. Most of those same people still think a disobedient kid needs a good ass kicking to straighten them out. That needs to change. And it can change. How, exactly, would violence against anybody further that cause?
Rewriting the rules is what it's all about. Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
-- ALAN BARTH, The Loyalty of Free Men, 1951.
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I am sure that if Virgil's and Ms Pete's corkscrew studded,headless bodies were found on the side of the road ,along with a written statment as to why they were tortured to death,it would send a clear message to their followers.
There is not a 100% chance that the police would aprehend the person who did it.
If I read a confirmed news story saying that this has happened I will personaly donate $100,000 to Antigens favorite charity.
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On 2005-04-26 20:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am sure that if Virgil's and Ms Pete's corkscrew studded,headless bodies were found on the side of the road ,along with a written statment as to why they were tortured to death,it would send a clear message to their followers.
Yeah, they'd read it like this "See what untreated substance abuse will do to a person? This is intolerable! These are dangerous, deranged druggies! We need more cops, more piss testing, more programs and more snitching! And we need it now! Your money is no object! If it saves just one life...".
It's not asif they're sane people who can be influenced by reason. I'm not trying to make them understand anything. They're a lost cause. What I'm trying to do is make others understand that they are the sadistic monsters, not us!
There is not a 100% chance that the police would aprehend the person who did it.
If I read a confirmed news story saying that this has happened I will personaly donate $100,000 to Antigens favorite charity."
Great! Right here, please http://eff.org/ (http://eff.org/)Emotions rule the world; Is it any wonder that it's so mucked up?!
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Their ability to commit future crimes would be seriously hindered if they were dead.
Those crusty old fux'll be dead soon enough anyway, won't they? :lol:
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You think they will blame it on "drug crazed hippies"?
Even if the do the other side of the story will be told about them abusing children (like you did as a phazer,Antigen).
If you are concerned that the press will label us all nuts because somebody offs the execuitive staff member,why are you not concerned when Wes Fager puts up a website that paints us all as political whackos?Even if Fager has genuine intentions,and even a small percentage of factual information about the programs,the sum total of the exposure he gives to us is far worse than an isolated incident or two of somebody torturing then beheading then posing the dead corkscrew studded bodies of Newton and Petermann with a note explaining why.
Maybe you just dont like killing,but dont say it would discredit all of us.I sincerely believe it would bring much needed attention to stop the further abuse of children in the Straight-like programs.
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When you all get it together and stop hemming and hawwing let me know....I'm listening...I would like 75% in advance though... :grin:
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I am guilty of flip flopping.
I would not like their headless bodies found.
I prefer to read about them still alive and their corkscrew studded living bodies having been found unconcious on the side of the road.
Then they would have to endure the corkscrews being unscrewed from their bodies then have to think about that the rest of their unnatural natural lives. ::flipflop::
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Well actually, I'm more concerned about some program vet landing up in a cage or worse for nothing the overall effect on anybody else.
But seriously. Are you that far round the bend that you think anything on Wes' site is more damaging to 'the cause' than open threats of brutal murder?
You and I both know that there isn't any cohesive group on which to asign any stigma from either your lunatic rantings or any website, no matter how good or how bad. But I think you ought to seriously consider doing what a few peple have suggested; build your own damned website. 6 years or so ago when I first started hawking this issue, there weren't any. When you searched on Straight Inc. you got nothing relavent. Mel Sembler? Well who would do that, most of us had never even heard the name. Virgil? Same thing. Do that now and it's a different story.
If you do that, and this is just my friendly advice (really!) try to be somewhat sensible about how you word things. If I get another threatening letter assuming that it's my site and demanding that I take it down, I just won't bother to tell you. Deal?God is inconceivable, immortality is unbelievable, but duty is peremptory and absolute.
--George Eliot, author
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Corkscrews would cost you a little extra as I prefer to use other tools (the bare hands, a nice heavy cleaver, a chain, or a dagger) when executing or brutalizing someone...
Talk to me.
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Antigen could fulfill "her" promise and stop "talking" to me.Deal.
The corkscrews must be administered with a cordless electric drill so that the can enter the muscle and joints very slowly.Also there is little blood to clean up using this method.
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I never worry about the blood...clean getaways are feasible regardless.
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These "Antigen" continues to go on about how wonderful the Wes Fager website http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com) is for exposing the child abuse,but "Antigen" never writes anything about http://www.rickross.com (http://www.rickross.com)
http://www.rickross.com (http://www.rickross.com) is a much better website for easily finding information about Straight-like programs.
Both websites http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com) and http://www.rickross.com (http://www.rickross.com) have been mentioned here several times and "Antigen" is well aware of both websites,but continues to defend the crack pot whacko Wes Fager and his inferior website.Antigen accused me of being unreasonable,yet never mentioned http://www.rickross.com (http://www.rickross.com)
"antigen is all mixed up now and has flipp flopped several times just in this one thread,and even acused me of being someone named "Animals" even though I have stated several times that I am not.
"Antigen" is pathetic.
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hey, Moron....ever think that just MAYBE Rick Ross is a friend of Wes Fagers, and that PERHAPS Rick Ross got the information on his website from....(drumroll please) http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com).
Yep, in your rambling bashing of Wes's site and support of Rick Ross', you failed to have the critical information needed, and that was Rick Ross got his facts from the very website you are trying to discredit.
You attempts at blasting other people only make you look foolish.
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RickRoss has included on his website information and a link to http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com)
Friends indeed!
RickRoss has lots of other info on his website about abusive groups,and he does not sit around and load a bunch of garbage in like Fager does.
RickRoss website looks PROFESSIONAL and I would not be embarassed to sent somebody there to look,even if I disagree with some of the content.
What is this Wes Fager so sacred?
Im warning you and everybody else that Fagers Website is OUT OF HAND with the garbage and if you want others to learn about your experiences in the Straight-like program,DONT SEND THEM TO LOOK AT FAGER'S WEBSITE!
I dont care if you are personal friends with the god-like Wes Fager,who in fact was a child abuser himself as an oldcommer parent.I dont think Rick Ross was ever a participant in abusing children in a Straight-like program LIKE FAGER DID.
Are you a "Wes Fager Apologist"?
You seem to think that Fager is 100% good.
I believe Wes Fager is 5% good and 95% wrong.
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Wes has many documents and much research. He also has much that is offensive. I'm rather surprised the librarian even printed out pages of his site. If she had checked a number of links, she would have at least handed me the pages whilst red in the face.
Those who take from Wes' collection to put on their own sites are wise not to take everything.
Please, check it out for yourself, and tell me you would send a youngster to that site to do some research. Two people have recently told me about high schoolers doing reports on Straight/boot camps. Did they go to Wes' site? Call me old-fashioned, but the thought curdles my blood a bit. Please, don't even publicly agree with me, just go see for yourself. Sorry rat, there i go again being opinionated, but since GregFL is a parent I would be surprised if he did not in his secret heart agree with me at least a tiny bit. (Greg, tell me for real what you think of what i said here. If you don't want to put it in public, pm me. I'm just curious. :smile: )
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On 2005-04-27 08:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
Are you a "Wes Fager Apologist"?
No, I am a "Wes Fager Friend". Proud to call him that, in fact.
No one is perfect, certainly not you, and your criticism of him just makes you look even more foolish in light of your trolling and other disruptive efforts here.
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Greg is a "Wes Fager Apologist".
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You guys miss a point. Wes Is primarily a researcher, not a writer, and a dedicated one at that. If you don't like his content or website, you are not forced to go there. However, it has been used by countless journalists as a reference.
There are other resources available to those of you that take exception to the site (such as Rickross.com and Stanton Peele, ISaac..to name a few).
But to slam and insult the man for his efforts is just wrong. FKA, before you defend yourself, I am not saying you are doing that, I recognize your criticism of the website and not the man. You are entitled to your opinion. What I am talking about is the vicious personal attacks for nothing. It is moronish, childish, and disruptive.
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Could I interest you in some real estate next door to Wes Fager?(Wes Fager:Child abusing oldcommer parent,known for and admits to locking young minor children in his bedroom and concealing their location from their parents and depriving them of telephoning their parents and limiting their access to a toilet and "beltlooping" them and restricting their freedom of movment and holding them against their will in his moving vehicle and delivering them daily to a building where they suffered abuse in a cult,etc,etc)
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On 2005-04-27 09:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Could I interest you in some real estate next door to Wes Fager?(Wes Fager:Child abusing oldcommer parent,known for and admits to locking young minor children in his bedroom and concealing their location from their parents and depriving them of telephoning their parents and limiting their access to a toilet and "beltlooping" them and restricting their freedom of movment and holding them against their will in his moving vehicle and delivering them daily to a building where they suffered abuse in a cult,etc,etc)"
Just like 90% (at least!) of the people involved in the program. And let's not forget the teachers, cops, friends, neighbors, relatives and others who know something of what goes on in these places, but stick their thumbs up their asses and do nothing to help. Then, of course, there are all of their philisophical brethren accross the world, like the Moonies and No Koreans, the Saudi Arabians and the Taliban and all the whack radical sub cults of every religion.
If you're going to start killing all of us, you've really got your work cut out for you. I would suggest to you that hand tools will not be nearly sufficient to even start your work in any signifficant way without our grandchildren's lifetimes.
Yeah, I'm pretty damned sure we need a bigger contingency before we can do anything really meaningful about the problem. If we have a big enough contingency, then we don't need violence at all. We just take their money. They're all welfare whores and snitches by trade anyway. It's our money. We don't have to keep giving it to them. We just have to get some more of our fucked up fellow citizens to agree and the funding and protection vanish. Then they're not a threat to anyone except those foolish enough to get involved w/ them on a personal level. The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected.
Will Rogers, American humorist, political commentator and cowboy philosopher
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Fuck...who here was never an "olcomer" and never beltlooped another kid, or for that matter had newcomers?
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fka, what is on that site that's anywhere near that offensive?
Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright
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Nothing. He's just a control freak. He doesn't like Wes' site, he doesn't like this one, guess he doesn't like the Alum site either since he doesn't post over there.
WTF dude??? You're not happy with anyone else's efforts, fucking DO something of your own. Ya fuckin' moron! Get off your lazy, petty, self centered, self pitying, spiteful, vindictive, childish ass and DO something! Jeez, it ain't that goddamn complicated. :roll: :roll:
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This is the wrong thread. Brian Dodd aka fka Animals said so. This convo should be taking place on: "Wes Fager discredits our cause."
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^^^^^DELETE THIS NOW!!!!!^^^^^^
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On 2005-04-27 12:32:00, Antigen wrote:
"fka, what is on that site that's anywhere near that offensive?"
maybe later i can compile a list of some of the links to which i am referring and send them to you.
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No.
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Brian Dodd is NOT, I repeat- NOT Animals.
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On 2005-04-27 12:40:00, fka wrote:
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On 2005-04-27 12:32:00, Antigen wrote:
"fka, what is on that site that's anywhere near that offensive?"
maybe later i can compile a list of some of the links to which i am referring and send them to you. "
That'd be great! If you come up with anything NEARLY as offensive as what psycho boy has posted (death threats, putting an aborted fetus up for sale, suggesting suicide to other survivors etc.) I might be able to take this a little more seriously.
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Ok, I keep trying to go look for the really awful stuff, but I keep getting side tracked by interesting stuff.
Aritlcle "4/25/05 The O'Reilly Factor vs. Calvina Fay" links to http://www.dpna.org/3fayoreillyinterview.htm (http://www.dpna.org/3fayoreillyinterview.htm) which says, in part:
O'REILLY: I had -- what's his name, the talk show host, tell me in my ear, Montel Williams, on this program. And he said the -- and he has M.S. He said the Miranol didn't take his M.S. symptoms away. He had to have the marijuana cigarette in his lungs in order to get relief.
Now I have no reason to doubt Mr. Williams. And I feel bad he's got M.S. And I don't care if he smokes marijuana. I think that's, you know, humane to take my position there. Am I wrong?
FAY: Well, first, let me say that I feel bad that he has M.S. also. And it is a very devastating disease that many people suffer from. But smoking a marijuana joint is not administering a valid medicine.
O'REILLY: Yes, but he says it is. See, Williams says it is.
FAY: Well, let's...
O'REILLY: I mean, do we have the right to tell Williams, who has a legitimate medical condition, that he can't smoke a marijuana cigarette?
FAY: I think we do.
O'REILLY: Really?
FAY: I think as a country, as a civilized nation, we have to have rules in effect. And it's there to protect people. You know, we went through a time when we had snake oil salesmen pushing anything and
everything, calling it medicine. That's why we have a system in this country that requires good research behind things that we want to label as medicine. It has to go through a process. It has to be proven to have medical efficacy. It has to be proven to be safe. And it has to be administered in a logical way.
O'REILLY: All right, well I disagree with you on that. I mean, I'd give Montel Williams and everybody in his position all the marijuana they wanted, but there's no question that people who just want to get high are abusing the system in California.
FAY: But Bill, when people use the drug, they do feel good. Itdoesn't...
O'REILLY: I understand, but if you have M.S., I want you to feel as good as you can feel. Ms. Fay, thanks very much. And "The Factor" will be back in just a few moments.
Wow :eek: Never thought I'd see the day! Did you?
Ok, I'm going back now and try harder to focus on my objective.
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
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i do feel good when i smoke marijuana! :eek: )
okay. i still say there is unnecessary smuttery over there that makes the whole damned thing look UNBELIEVABLE.
nevertheless, it is good to say what is good and that is some task, compiling all the Related Information that comes along in the current media.
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On 2005-04-27 12:53:00, fka wrote:
okay. i still say there is unnecessary smuttery over there that makes the whole damned thing look UNBELIEVABLE.
I'm not arguing that point at all. I find Wes' site very difficult to follow and way too political for my taste. It is HIS site though, so who am I to tell him what he should or should not post? And nothing on that site could be compared to what Animals has posted here about Wes, Sammie and others. Honestly, any reasonable person would draw that conclusion, IMO.
Animals is a big baby. He doesn't get his way so he pouts and throws a fucking tantrum. I understand that we all came out of there with problems, but Jesus Fucking Christ!!!! You don't see him as being even slightly out of hand and over the top here????
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Oh, I'm pretty sure Calvina admits to having smoked up when she was young. She just holds that kids ta'day are not doing it right. Pretty much the way my brothers and sisters can smoke up and drink and that's ok, but when I do it it's a problem....
For three days after death, hair and fingernails continue to grow but phone calls taper off.
-- Johnny Carson
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I am NOT this "Animals" guy.
I was NEVER an "oldcommer".
I was the BEST misbehaver ever and Miss Pete personally led me to the door and kicked me OUT of the Straight-like program.This is all true.