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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 11, 2005, 01:36:00 PM

Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2005, 01:36:00 PM
why hasn't anyone posted on here lately?  i go out of hla a couple of months ago b/c my parents found out about the true hla.  we are currently trying to sue the school... wish us luck

olivia
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Deborah on April 11, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
Congrats and good luck!!

This is a good place to tell your story about the 'real HLA' so other parents might not make the same mistake.

Of course, if there is pending litigation, you may want to check with your attorney first to determine what is appropriate.
Title: former 62 member
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on April 12, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
what is the reason for the suit?
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
b/c of the stripsearch thing

olivia
Title: former 62 member
Post by: juniper on April 26, 2005, 06:33:00 PM
Hi.  Please ask your parents if it would be alright to register your families complaint against HLA. http://www.isaccorp.com (http://www.isaccorp.com) /or e-mail at isaccorp@ yahoo.com- Attn:
Shelby Earnshaw.  We need all the help we can get.  They investigate schools and place them
on a watch list for other families. Thanks.[ This Message was edited by: juniper on 2005-04-26 15:41 ][ This Message was edited by: juniper on 2005-04-26 15:44 ]
Title: former 62 member
Post by: revengeofamuffin on May 19, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
have you read my story of the strip search issue? it is on one of the HLA boards and under anonymous. I know how much that sucks. Believe me. I was in PG 52 and thank God I got pulled also. Do you know if they are still doing searches like they used to or not? I would really like to know.
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on June 04, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
i don't think we can do anything about it.  we had a lawyer look at the issue but hla makes the parents sign some form saying they won't talk about the school or some crap like that...

olivia
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on June 05, 2005, 05:05:00 AM
olivia,

this is george...i was there with you i'm in 72, i just found thi s site, this school is crap and i started talking to my mom and my home therapist about it and i'm putting together stuff for them to look at about the school about the real HLA...if you could reply to me real quick i have to go back tomorrow afternooon so if you could reply please or email me at george.chongris@comcast.net ... thank you


george
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Troll Control on June 05, 2005, 08:33:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-06-05 02:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"olivia,



this is george...i was there with you i'm in 72, i just found thi s site, this school is crap and i started talking to my mom and my home therapist about it and i'm putting together stuff for them to look at about the school about the real HLA...if you could reply to me real quick i have to go back tomorrow afternooon so if you could reply please or email me at george.chongris@comcast.net ... thank you





george"

Why on earth are your parents sending you BACK then?
Title: former 62 member
Post by: juniper on June 05, 2005, 02:41:00 PM
George,
  If your Mother has concerns as we did, have her contact Isaccorp.org.-- Shelby Earnshaw. First
and foremost, tell her you are not manipulating,
rather telling the truth.  One has to weigh the good attributes of the school verses the bad ones
for each individual student.  The problem is they
treat all students the same.  They are not suppose to have court ordered children at the school;  HLA also states they do not accept
severe behaviorally troubled teeens.  The last
few months have proven that is not the case.

They have had several attempted suicides,children
beating up other children, and  several court ordered children. THe parents are kept in the dark, so they operate as they wish.  Everyone
is forbidden to talk about the school.

As far as strip searches, they continue.  HLA
feels they have no choice.  Although parents do sign a document, nowhere does it state 'strip
searches' shall be done, only urinalysis.

Have your mother read the warnings signs for
abusive schools(varying degrees) on isaccorp.org.
before tomorrow.  It may help.  Good luck.[ This Message was edited by: juniper on 2005-06-05 11:44 ]
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on June 27, 2005, 04:25:00 PM
george, dont be stupid and say your name if you are still a student at HLA. Don't you know staff look at these? Just some advice. You could get in some trouble you know?
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2005, 03:16:00 AM
I graduated 2 years ago, it has been a a long time though. good luck with your lawsuit. I think a better aproach is to get as many people to write about their expierences with HLA and weed out the positive ones if they exist.  I keep in contact with people who they have quoted, and they promise that the quote was either taken out of context or that it was not their words.. either way, it isn't right.

Just to let you know, HLA did nothign for me that i wasn't on my way to doing anyhow.  I was a S.T.A.R.S. student, however this didn't mean i was cured by any means.  shortly after "graduating" HLA I flunked out of college [due to a lack of preperation] and last summer I had gone back to illegal activities.  nonetheless I have been able to mend my ways, only this time I didn't have to suffer through twenty-two months of crap.  I do think that some people there need help, but HLA isn't the place to give it.  

feel free to contact me wit questions..
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2005, 02:21:00 AM
This is off topic but does anyone know if they are still using the firepit to burn tires anfd old matresses? I remember the fire Marshal being called on HLA more than once for it. I was wondering if they ever got into trounle for it. Is anybody out there from PG 25-30?
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
Not sure about the burn pit but would like to hear from anyone in peer groups 25-30.  I worked up there during that time.  Hope everyone is doing well.

Tony
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on August 07, 2005, 11:52:00 PM
wait wait, tony..ac, blonde dude, cut his hair, i was in pg 26 and if im thinkin of the right person, thats real cool that you are on here.


dan katz, pg 26
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2005, 01:07:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-06-05 11:41:00, juniper wrote:

"George,

  If your Mother has concerns as we did, have her contact Isaccorp.org.-- Shelby Earnshaw. First

and foremost, tell her you are not manipulating,

rather telling the truth.  One has to weigh the good attributes of the school verses the bad ones

for each individual student.  The problem is they

treat all students the same.  They are not suppose to have court ordered children at the school;  HLA also states they do not accept

severe behaviorally troubled teeens.  The last

few months have proven that is not the case.



They have had several attempted suicides,children

beating up other children, and  several court ordered children. THe parents are kept in the dark, so they operate as they wish.  Everyone

is forbidden to talk about the school.



As far as strip searches, they continue.  HLA

feels they have no choice.  Although parents do sign a document, nowhere does it state 'strip

searches' shall be done, only urinalysis.



Have your mother read the warnings signs for

abusive schools(varying degrees) on isaccorp.org.

before tomorrow.  It may help.  Good luck.[ This Message was edited by: juniper on 2005-06-05 11:44 ]"


Could you be more specific about suicide attempts and kids beating up other kids in recent months?

Thanks
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Deborah on August 08, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
Hey Tony,
If you're still reading this forum, PM me.
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2005, 06:19:00 PM
Dan,

Yeah, that's me.  I took you guys out on your 7 day.  Anyway, its great to hear that you are doing so well!  I'm liking the music...  What else have you been up to?  

Tony
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Surfing7 on August 08, 2005, 06:38:00 PM
Dan, AIM is surfing30504 if you want to say anything off the board.  Are you still in PA?  Later.

Tony
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Anonymous on August 08, 2005, 06:43:00 PM
Holy shit tony its real good to hear from you. seriously, you were one of the only staff that i ever felt treated me like a human being. im glad you got out of that hell hole. you seemed like too good of a guy to play those bullshit bueracratic games that seemed to spawn from the administration. Other then the music, I've been going to college and plan on going to law school. I skateboard, and uh...thats about it. other then that, ive been in a serious relationship for the past two years, my family relationships are good, and well, basically im all around satisfied with my life.
with no thanks to hla.

i hope buccelato reads this and sees that realistically, his bullshit
"therapy" did nothing. If anything it has made me so opposed to therapy that i refuse to give it any credit as a valid way of helping people. I bet I am also not alone in that, and I'm sure most HLA graduates are also completely disgusted by the idea of therapy. all i see in all these posts are kids that really just needed to grow up. thats all i needed. not hidden lake. just maturity.
Title: former 62 member
Post by: aftenthurston on October 06, 2005, 08:38:00 PM
revengeofamuffin...is that ashley up here?? the wakeboarding thing caught my eye... if it is, im me on yahoo... please! aftenthurston is my sn.
Aften
Title: former 62 member
Post by: RobertBruce on October 06, 2005, 11:40:00 PM
" i don't think we can do anything about it. we had a lawyer look at the issue but hla makes the parents sign some form saying they won't talk about the school or some crap like that... "

We can all talk about it as much as we want. As students we didnt sign shit and theres nothing they can do about it.

I hope Bucci reads this.

YOURE SCHOOL ABUSES CHILDREN!!!! SUE ME MOTHERFUCKER!!!!

Nice.  :grin:
Title: former 62 member
Post by: Trotto on October 11, 2005, 10:48:00 PM
Even though your parents may have signed something that does not end the possibility of a lawsuit.  Many people have filed suits even though they signed waivers stating they would not hold the party liable.  It does, however make it more difficult. :smokin:
Title: former 62 member
Post by: RobertBruce on October 12, 2005, 12:38:00 AM
Again not for us as students, we signed nothing. Furthermore its not as if the forms your parents signed were done so in good consciense. Its not like the school was exactly forthright about things.
Title: former 62 member
Post by: SHH Anon Classics on October 12, 2005, 12:10:00 PM
What about you Mr. Bruce? How long ago did you attend? Did you sue or did your parents sue?
Title: former 62 member
Post by: RobertBruce on October 12, 2005, 04:37:00 PM
Keep fishing if you feel its true.
Theres nothing else that we can do
to save you from yourself.