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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 09, 2005, 01:14:00 PM
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The following is intended as fucked up, deranged satire and should not be taken seriously by anyone:
DON'T walk up to Virgil as he's walking up the courthouse steps, say "Remember me, asshole?" and shoot him several times with a .45
DON'T break into the homes of former Straight, Inc. executives, bind them with hemp fiber, and spray them with pepper spray before igniting the whole place.
DON'T kidnap some lame-ass ex-Catholic priest who still works in the drug-treatment industry, dose him with 500+ mcgs of LSD, and subject him to a confrontation "marathon" where his fingernails are removed with rusty pliers.
DON'T castrate some fucked up ex-Group Staff Supervisor, using a rusty razorblade and no anaesthetic, leaving him to wallow in pain and shock as you repeatedly kick him in the head.
DON'T spray lighter fluid all over an ex-Straight, Inc. Executive who has started her own spin-off program, light it, and say "Tell me about your feelings, bitch!" as you do multiple shots of 151, spitting out every other one on her.
DON'T use a Taser on an ex-Executive Staff member who now works as an educator right before you cover his head with a sack containing rabid weasels.
These things would be wrong. DON'T DO THEM!!!
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I think these things are RIGHT, but doing them MAY be wrong. I'm still on the fence...
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I think doing any of these things would definitely be wrong.
For one thing, there's a grain of truth to the stock defense Program proponants often drag out; no one held a gun to our heads or to our parents heads to become and then to stay involved w/ these sadistic psychos. On some level, it was mostly voluntary.
And they do believe they're the good guys, longsuffering, martyred, misunderstood and up against it all for the greater good. Hurting them in any way only feeds their martyrdome complex.
But they're only dangerous if you believe them. I think the most effective thing we can all do is to simply keep the spotlight on them, show them for what they are so that no one will fall for their bullshit.
Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence
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On 2005-04-09 12:24:00, Antigen wrote:
For one thing, there's a grain of truth to the stock defense Program proponants often drag out; no one held a gun to our heads or to our parents heads to become and then to stay involved w/ these sadistic psychos. On some level, it was mostly voluntary.
Gotta disagree w/ ya on this one Ginger. They came after me with an armed private dick to bring me back from a month-long cop out, and tried to court order me (unsuccessfully) to complete the program--what does a court-order boil down to if not force of arms to make one comply? Don't hand me this shit that I was there voluntarily--they used deception to get me in the door, and when I had to surreptitiously leave since they wouldn't let me walk out, they used force (and the threat of force, I think that's legally referred to as assault) to bring me back. Maybe you were there in a "mostly voluntary" way, I certainly was not.
If any of the above were to be done to a few of the Executives, I would laugh my ass off and toast the person who did it. I have no sympathy for those assholes, and just because they view themselves as the "good guys, longsuffering, martyred and misunderstood" doesn't make them that. Hitler thought he was acting as an agent of divine providence, and I'm sure Pol Pot thought he was one of the good guys, too. The hell with those assholes. Anything bad that happens to them is cause for celebration.
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Well, I don't disagree w/ you entirely. I've never killed a man, but I've read some obituaries w/ great pleasure.
But who was the driving force behind all that coercive power? For most of us, it was our own parents. They had all the choice. They weren't compelled, they were scammed. When it comes down to it, most of us really wouldn't wish any violence on our own parents. Wouldn't do anybody any good any way. Better to try and educate the next generation of parents so they won't fall for the same scam. It's a huge undertaking, don't get me wrong. And don't hold out any illusion that this little web site can do the whole job. But, as regards this group of programs and their particular circle of influence, I think I can do my small part to destroy their falacious credibility so they don't have the kind of influence over these young parents that they had over yours and mine.
No more martyrs, ok? No more hurting. Enough already w/ that bullshit.
screening pre-school kids for anti-social behavior is about as useful as screening the Christian Coalition for sanctimonious behavior.
Sanho Tree
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I DO blame the parents--for being either too lazy or incompetent to deal with their own kids, for being fucking evil enough to send their kids to a fucked up place like Straight, or for being stupid enough to fall for the scam (come on! Who but an idiot would fall for the bullshit at Open Meetings? "Look, Honey! The druggies are all happy and singing Straight songs, complete with goofy hand gestures---there's nothing weird about that...And that Dr. Newton, he's sooo caring and proffessional").
But in spite of the parents' complicity, I would find it rather entertaining to hear of Straight Execs getting their due.....
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I just remembered being in the time out room during open meetings. They would open the door and let my parents beg me to work the program. I remember how all of staff was looking at me like please dont do anything drastic or we are so going to kill you. You could cut the air with a knife.
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today, I would not like to see violence. i would really like to see the biggest trial of the century, and ALL of the child abuse laid out in the media. i think the American public, as STUPID as they are sometimes, could only be horrified.
i would like to hear the judge pound the gavel: "Suzanne Lovelace, for your complicity in the endless bullying, child abuse, and acts of torture upon the children in Straight, Inc., I sentence you to ten years, no chance for early release, no parole."
etc.
they are felons. they should be serving hard prison time.
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[ This Message was edited by: Ex5k on 2005-06-14 14:40 ]
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On 2005-04-09 13:55:00, fka wrote:
"today, I would not like to see violence. i would really like to see the biggest trial of the century, and ALL of the child abuse laid out in the media. i think the American public, as STUPID as they are sometimes, could only be horrified.
i would like to hear the judge pound the gavel: "Suzanne Lovelace, for your complicity in the endless bullying, child abuse, and acts of torture upon the children in Straight, Inc., I sentence you to ten years, no chance for early release, no parole."
etc.
they are felons. they should be serving hard prison time.
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Is Suzanne related to Linda?? :wink:
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Never fry bacon in the nude!
I try to remember my values before the Straight experience. I try to remember ideals such as "turn the other cheek" And "Do unto others..." (I am NOT catholic christian or any of that other nonsense, but the overall message of most mainstream religeons is pretty sound in a perfectly naive and deluded sort of way). I was a pacifist. Against war and confrontation of any sort. However that was a lifetime ago.
I have often wondered what my reaction to running into any of my jailors on the street would be. While I like to think of myself as in control of myself and my thoughts, I know this isn't a quality about myself that can be relied on. I have to say that Straights prediction of "incarceration, institutions or death" very well may be a possibility.. but not in the terms they meant it.
Straight has been a wonderful confirmation of all the studies that have gone into mind control and brainwashing. It just doesn't work. What you are left with is something uncontrollable. What I was left with was a terrible social handicap. I suppose I looked into the abyss.. and the abyss looked back into me. It never left.
I pray I never have to deal with the situation of seeing anyone who had charge over me. I'm sorry they have to fear for their safety. They may not know it yet, but they do. I'm even more sorry they need to fear me.
I don't condone violence.. especially premeditated violence. Being a human animal dictates it though. Civility and social correctness are an illusion. THEY drew first blood and no matter what anyone says, the chips will fall where they may.
Its funny how, when you turn the tables on a particular group, the same principles don't seem to apply. Funny how we're expected to believe that their actions hold no consequences. Legally, there aren't many options left. THEY feel safer somehow behind this fact. And it's a grave mistake.
I'm no sociopath, but I'm fairly sure that should I ever be in the situation where I need to do something drastic in response to their abuse, I WON'T be losing any sleep over it.
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I don't disagree w/ any of that. But there's just one flaw. I don't think there's any one definable group that we can deem as bad and complicit while letting everyone else off the hook. I fucked w/ people's minds as an oldcomer, as a fifth phaser. Hell, to a certain degree, the one time I sat on the stupid staff stool and taught Group a nice song, I was fucking w/ people. Somebody out there may well hate me just as much as any of us have it in for the execs or the particular sadistic sr or the full of herself and tacitly sadistic intake coordinator or the former friend who ratted us out in Group.
Then there are the teachers and neighbors and cops and politicians and policy makers and judges, all of these fuckers either stood idly by or actively participated in our missery. Then look to Salley Jesse Raphael and Dr. Phil and all the rest of the self righious altruist talking heads on tv who promote this bullshit.
All of them, all of us, except those stubborn, strong or just bull-headed enough to resist every moment and never go alont, all the rest of us and our families and our communities are complicit in this.
Stringing up Newton or Byrd or any other individual would only make them martyrs. What we need is for our entire society to feel deeply ashamed of our complicity in these crimes. Look to Germany and how they have come back from Naziism. It's an admirable example. They "get it" and are generally among the first to respond to stories about the troubled parent industry in American by saying, offhandedly, "Oh yeah, Nazis, Hitler Jugund, mind control.... what did you think we were talking about?"
That's where I want my grandkids to grow up; a culture that knows it when they see it and soundly, roundly condemns it.
When I started as a federal narcotics agent, the budget that we were working with, it was less than $5 million a year, and there was only 125 agents for the entire world to work the narcotic trade that we were fighting in those days. Times have changed. The gluttony has grown.
--Nick Navarro, former Broward, FL Sherrif
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On 2005-04-09 13:21:00, Antigen wrote:
"Well, I don't disagree w/ you entirely. I've never killed a man, but I've read some obituaries w/ great pleasure.
Oh wow. That is very sick and sad. You are screwed up in the head. Taking pleasure in another's death? And you call the programs and their staff sick!??
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Sure, why not?!? ::stab:: :lol:
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http://usmjparty.blogspot.com/2005/03/f ... it_25.html (http://usmjparty.blogspot.com/2005/03/fbi-pays-loretta-nall-visit_25.html)
Just something to think about before anyone makes
what could be taken as a threatening post.The Christian God can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, evil and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. The are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat
[ This Message was edited by: tommyfromhyde1 on 2005-04-10 11:08 ]
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I operate under the assumption that I am being tapped, watched, and followed, and try to be as entertaining as possible. ( :wave: Hi Fed Boys!)
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On 2005-04-09 20:19:00, Antigen wrote:
"I don't disagree w/ any of that. But there's just one flaw. I don't think there's any one definable group that we can deem as bad and complicit while letting everyone else off the hook. I fucked w/ people's minds as an oldcomer, as a fifth phaser.
Yes, but the Executives can't claim they did so because they were subjected to Straight's methods or that they were afraid of consequences if they didn't act sadistically. They did so willingly and voluntarily, and received a paycheck for their efforts. It disgusts me that you are willing to overlook that.
Then there are the teachers and neighbors and cops and politicians and policy makers and judges, all of these fuckers either stood idly by or actively participated in our missery. Then look to Salley Jesse Raphael and Dr. Phil and all the rest of the self righious altruist talking heads on tv who promote this bullshit.
Again, none of these people perpetrated the sadism for profit and personal gain. The Jr. and Sr. staff at Straight may have (and I'm being generous with 'may have'), but the Executive Staff at Straight, Inc. committed, for pay, what would be considered war crimes or crimes against humanity, had they been inflicted on adult POWs, and they did it to kids.
All of them, all of us, except those stubborn, strong or just bull-headed enough to resist every moment and never go alont, all the rest of us and our families and our communities are complicit in this.
That's like blaming every Russian citizen for the atrocities committed by Stalin. The buck has to stop somewhere, and I don't see the logic of diluting the responsibility of the Executive Staff of Straight, Inc. for the crimes they perpetrated, enjoyed perpetrating, and were paid for perpetrating.
Stringing up Newton or Byrd or any other individual would only make them martyrs.
No, it would make them corpses that could no longer perpetrate their sadistic crimes. Did hanging the Nazis at Nuremburg (a show trial, by the way, the outcome was never in doubt) make them martyrs? And if it did, so what? We have the right to expect not only justice, but vengeance.
What we need is for our entire society to feel deeply ashamed of our complicity in these crimes. Look to Germany and how they have come back from Naziism. It's an admirable example. They "get it" and are generally among the first to respond to stories about the troubled parent industry in American by saying, offhandedly, "Oh yeah, Nazis, Hitler Jugund, mind control.... what did you think we were talking about?"
Here's a little joke making the rounds in Germany these days:
"Don't joke about the Holocaust--my grandfather died in a concentration camp."
"Oh, really? That's terrible."
"Yeah, he fell out of a guard tower".
Sounds ashamed and repentant to me.....
That's where I want my grandkids to grow up; a culture that knows it when they see it and soundly, roundly condemns it.
And they would have a better chance of growing up in a society that did not promote such atrocities as Straight, Etc. if would-be perps of such crimes knew that they would suffer at the hands of those they abused.
Although I do not advocate violence against anyone, even the Straight, Inc. Executive Staff, I understand the desire of those that do, and would probably feel no small measure of schadenfreude (German for "taking joy in the misfortunes of others) were I to become aware of it.
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On 2005-04-09 13:55:00, fka wrote:
"today, I would not like to see violence. i would really like to see the biggest trial of the century, and ALL of the child abuse laid out in the media. i think the American public, as STUPID as they are sometimes, could only be horrified.
i would like to hear the judge pound the gavel: "Suzanne Lovelace, for your complicity in the endless bullying, child abuse, and acts of torture upon the children in Straight, Inc., I sentence you to ten years, no chance for early release, no parole."
etc.
they are felons. they should be serving hard prison time.
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It ain't gonna happen. These guys have political clout and influence, and will never see a minute of jail time for what they did. Although I am not advocating any form of violence against these shits, I understand how someone could want to do that to them. The "American public" would not be horrified, they would be cheering, just as they do when Maury Povich or whoever the talk-show flavor of the week sends kids to boot camps. The evidence has been out there for a long time, newspapers and TV news have done exposes, and NOT A SINGLE ONE of the Execs has done any jail time. This is a story that no one but the victims cares about, and half of them think they "deserved it....it helped me change my life" or "at least it got me off drugs". Good luck bringing them to trial, you'll need it.
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On 2005-04-10 14:53:00, RTP2003 wrote:
"It ain't gonna happen... Good luck bringing them to trial, you'll need it."
sorry, didn't realize you were an experienced lawyer, or i would have asked for your opinion before.
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Oh wow. That is very sick and sad. You are screwed up in the head. Taking pleasure in another's death? And you call the programs and their staff sick!??"
I'll tell ya, at Miller Newton Smelly funeral, I along with a number of my friends will stand as close as we can get to the grave site and throw on fucking outstanding party. I'm gonna be and let my "feelings" be known by all. Heyk anon, you wanna come????? You're invited.
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Oh wow. That is very sick and sad. You are screwed up in the head. Taking pleasure in another's death? And you call the programs and their staff sick!??"
I'll tell ya, at Miller Newton and Smelly funeral, I along with a number of my friends will stand as close as we can get to the grave site and throw one fucking outstanding party. I'm gonna be there and let my "feelings" be known by all. Heyk anon, you wanna come????? You're invited.
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On 2005-04-09 13:30:00, RTP2003 wrote:
(come on! Who but an idiot would fall for the bullshit at Open Meetings? "Look, Honey! The druggies are all happy and singing Straight songs, complete with goofy hand gestures---there's nothing weird about that...And that Dr. Newton, he's sooo caring and proffessional").
People who are so bereft of anything like authentic culture and personality that even that creepy scene seemed better and more comforting than whatever they had to begin with.
Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones
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On 2005-04-10 14:35:00, RTP2003 wrote:
Yes, but the Executives can't claim they did so because they were subjected to Straight's methods or that they were afraid of consequences if they didn't act sadistically. They did so willingly and voluntarily, and received a paycheck for their efforts. It disgusts me that you are willing to overlook that.
I'm not overlooking it. I just figured out at some point that those people are either already past this (some few) or they're beyond all hope. There's no influencing them. They will never entertain any notion that conflicts w/ their fantasy where they get to be heros and martyrs. So fuck `em. As far as they're concerned, I'm only interested in getting the word out on them so people will see them coming.
Then there are the teachers and neighbors and cops ...
Again, none of these people perpetrated the sadism for profit and personal gain. The Jr. and Sr. staff at Straight may have (and I'm being generous with 'may have'), but the Executive Staff at Straight, Inc. committed, for pay, what would be considered war crimes or crimes against humanity, had they been inflicted on adult POWs, and they did it to kids.
Bullshit! The cops in Ft. Lauderdale/Pompano and those in St. Pete and Sarasota knew what was going on. They were real tight w/ the whole thing. And they would drop an actual criminal investigaton (or take men off of it) to go chase down a split. Check this out:
http://fornits.com/anonanon/articles/20 ... 11-239.htm (http://fornits.com/anonanon/articles/200009/20000911-239.htm)
Same thing happened w/ The Seed. Nothing! They knew, they still know, and they think we deserved it and the kids getting starved and beaten and mindfucked today deserve and need it. And they don't get paid any extra to support it. They support it because it fits their beliefs. They're complicit.
All of them, all of us, except those stubborn, strong or just bull-headed enough to resist every moment and never go alont, all the rest of us and our families and our communities are complicit in this.
That's like blaming every Russian citizen for the atrocities committed by Stalin.
That's what happened. That's how it ended. When Russians and other citizens of the Soviet Boc countries finally rejected the dogma, then the Union fell apart. The aftermath hasn't been pretty at all. But, according to a lot of former Soviets, it's a little better than it was.
The buck has to stop somewhere, and I don't see the logic of diluting the responsibility of the Executive Staff of Straight, Inc. for the crimes they perpetrated, enjoyed perpetrating, and were paid for perpetrating.
Well, logically, as long as they have the support and backing of the community, we're the bad guys and they're the good guys and it'll never stop. That has to change.
Stringing up Newton or Byrd or any other individual would only make them martyrs.
No, it would make them corpses that could no longer perpetrate their sadistic crimes. Did hanging the Nazis at Nuremburg (a show trial, by the way, the outcome was never in doubt) make them martyrs? And if it did, so what? We have the right to expect not only justice, but vengeance.
Think about this for a moment. You know very well that the most sadistic fucks, like Newton, are haunted already. How would you like to spend your golden years watching an endless parade of 40yo asses hanging out of car windows from your front porch? And that's just the humorous least of it. The Nuremburg trials may have been a dog and pony show, but they were a dog and pony show well attended, supported and applauded by the world. That's what we need to happen here. And you must know that it wouldn't be just Straight, Inc. ppl on trial. It would have to be the entire apparatus, though there probably will be a few choice examples set to take the brunt of it.
Here's a little joke making the rounds in Germany these days:
"Don't joke about the Holocaust--my grandfather died in a concentration camp."
"Oh, really? That's terrible."
"Yeah, he fell out of a guard tower".
Sounds ashamed and repentant to me.....
But it's not reflective of the general sentiment in Germany.
That's where I want my grandkids to grow up; a culture that knows it when they see it and soundly, roundly condemns it.
And they would have a better chance of growing up in a society that did not promote such atrocities as Straight, Etc. if would-be perps of such crimes knew that they would suffer at the hands of those they abused.
Although I do not advocate violence against anyone, even the Straight, Inc. Executive Staff, I understand the desire of those that do, and would probably feel no small measure of schadenfreude (German for "taking joy in the misfortunes of others) were I to become aware of it.
Right there with ya, buddy. But I want backing from the rest of society. Am I expecting too much? Maybe so. Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its
best state is but a necessary evil ---in its worst state an
intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same
miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without
government, our calamities is heightened by reflecting that we
furnish the means by which we suffer!
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)
Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.
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One other thing.
Knowing as we do what these particular people are capable of--what they're inclined to do--and knowing as we do that they have a great deal of political and ecconomic cloute, what do you think they're up to these days? Look around at general areas of interest, news stories and, from that, make up a short list of whichever issues you might expect to find them involved in. Then go look and see if you can spot the Straightlings.
Here are some of the issues in which I've found Straightlings/DFAF involved:
Piss testing by public mandate and at pubic expense.
Anonymous tip hotlines.
Paid informant programs.
DARE outrageously innacurate drug propaganda in and out of schools.
Aerial spraying hyper-forulated Roundup (fka Agent Orange) in So. America.
(aka chemical warfare)
Biological warfare (google fusarium oxysporum silver bullet and see all the familiar names of politicos and momsters)
Mandatory minimum sentencing (for victimless "crimes" only)
Medical use of marijuana
Forced treatment (backed by mandatory minimums)
My point here is that ours are not the only faces in which these fuckers routinely piss. We didn't even get the worst of it. If you want to bring about real accountability, try finding some friends at November.org and LEAP.cc Compare notes. We're all working seperately against what comes down to a tighly knit, carefully camoflaged, well funded conspiracy of utter lunatics. Why aren't we working together?
We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.
-- Ben Franklin At the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.
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Ok, so I go to check my mail, and find this sitting there, fresh from some distribution list. Crazy Mac dropping bombs and hints again?
Subject: ARO: STUNNING BBC DOCUMENTARY OF TORTURE IN AMERICA'S DOMESTIC
PRISONS
Friends,
This documentary illustrates one of the key features of drug prohibition -- the dehumanization of drug users and all offenders. If you have the opportunity to view it, do so. You will undoubtedly want to share it with others who are indifferent to the state to which our justice system has sunk. Eric
STUNNING BBC DOCUMENTARY OF TORTURE IN AMERICA'S DOMESTIC PRISONS
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article8451.htm (http://informationclearinghouse.info/article8451.htm)
DEBORAH DAVIES, BBC CHANNEL FOUR - It's terrible to watch some of the videos and realise that you're not only seeing torture in action but, in the most extreme cases, you are witnessing young men dying. The prison guards stand over their captives with electric cattle prods, stun guns, and dogs. Many of the prisoners have been ordered to strip naked. The guards are yelling abuse at them, ordering them to lie on the ground and crawl. 'Crawl, motherf- - - - - s, crawl.'
If a prisoner doesn't drop to the ground fast enough, a guard kicks him or stamps on his back. There's a high-pitched scream from one man as a dog clamps its teeth onto his lower leg.
Another prisoner has a broken ankle. He can't crawl fast enough so a guard jabs a stun gun onto his buttocks. The jolt of electricity zaps through his naked flesh and genitals. For hours afterwards his whole body shakes.
Lines of men are now slithering across the floor of the cellblock while the guards stand over them shouting, prodding and kicking.
Second by second, their humiliation is captured on a video camera by one of the guards.
These were exactly the kind of pictures from inside Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad that shocked the world this time last year. And they are similar, too, to the images of brutality against Iraqi prisoners that this week led to the conviction of three British soldiers.
But there is a difference. These prisoners are not caught up in a war zone. They are Americans, and the video comes from inside a prison in Texas
They are just some of the victims of wholesale torture taking place inside the U.S. prison system that we uncovered during a four-month investigation for Channel 4.
Our findings were not based on rumour or suspicion. They were based on solid evidence, chiefly videotapes that we collected from all over the U.S.
In many American states, prison regulations demand that any 'use of force operation', such as searching cells for drugs, must be filmed by a guard. The theory is that the tapes will show proper procedure was followed and that no excessive force was used. In fact, many of them record the exact opposite.
Each tape provides a shocking insight into the reality of life inside the U.S. prison system ? a reality that sits very uncomfortably with President Bush's commitment to the battle for freedom and democracy against the forces of tyranny and oppression.
In fact, the Texas episode outlined above dates from 1996, when Bush was state Governor. . .
All the lawyers I spoke to during our investigations shared Carlson's belief that Abu Ghraib, far from being the work of a few rogue individuals, was simply the export of the worst practices that take place in the domestic prison system all the time. . .
Many of the tapes we've collected are several years old. That's because they only surface when determined lawyers prise them out of reluctant state prison departments during protracted lawsuits. But for every 'historical' tape we collected, we also found a more recent story. What you see on the tape is still happening daily.
It's terrible to watch some of the videos and realize that you're not only seeing torture in action but, in the most extreme cases, you are witnessing young men dying.
In one horrific scene, a naked man, passive and vacant, is seen being led out of his cell by prison guards. They strap him into a medieval-looking device called a 'restraint chair'. His hands and feet are shackled, there's a strap across his chest, his head lolls forward. He looks dead. He's not. Not yet.
The chair is his punishment because guards saw him in his cell with a pillowcase on his head and he refused to take it off. The man has a long history of severe schizophrenia. Sixteen hours later, they release him from the chair. And two hours after that, he dies from a blood clot resulting from his barbaric treatment.
The tape comes from Utah ? but there are others from Connecticut, Florida, Texas, Arizona and probably many more. We found more than 20 cases of prisoners who've died in the past few years after being held in a restraint chair.
Two of the deaths we investigated were in the same county jail in Phoenix, Arizona, which is run by a man who revels in the title of 'America's Toughest Sheriff.'
His name is Joe Arpaio. He positively welcomes TV crews and we were promised 'unfettered access.' It was a reassuring turn of phrase ? you don't want to be fettered in one of Sheriff Joe's jails.
We uncovered two videotapes from surveillance cameras showing how his tough stance can end in tragedy. The first tape, from 2001, shows a man named Charles Agster dragged in by police, handcuffed at the wrists and ankles. Agster is mentally disturbed and a drug user. He was arrested for causing a disturbance in a late-night grocery store. The police handed him over to the Sheriff's deputies in the jail. Agster is a tiny man, weighing no more than nine stone, but he's struggling.
The tape shows nine deputies manhandling him into the restraint chair. One of them kneels on Agster's stomach, pushing his head forward on to his knees and pulling his arms back to strap his wrists into the chair.
Bending someone double for any length of time is dangerous ? the manuals on the use of the 'restraint chair' warn of the dangers of 'positional asphyxia.'
Fifteen minutes later, a nurse notices Agster is unconscious. The cameras show frantic efforts to resuscitate him, but he's already brain dead. He died three days later in hospital. Agster's family is currently suing Arizona County. . .
A few years ago, in Florida, the new warden of the high security state prison ordered an end to the videoing of 'use of force operations.' So we have no tapes to show how prison guards use pepper spray to punish prisoners. But we do have the lawsuit describing how men were doused in pepper spray and then left to cook in the burning fog of chemicals. Photographs taken by their lawyers show one man has a huge patch of raw skin over his hip. Another is covered in an angry rash across his neck, back and arms. A third has deep burns on his buttocks.
'They usually use fire extinguishers size canisters of pepper spray,' lawyer Christopher Jones explained. 'We have had prisoners who have had second degree burns all over their bodies. . .
And why were they sprayed? According to the official prison reports, their infringements included banging on the cell door and refusing medication.
From the same Florida prison we also have photographs of Frank Valdes ? autopsy pictures. Realistically, he had little chance of ever getting out of prison alive. He was on Death Row for killing a prison officer. He had time to reconcile himself to the Electric Chair ? he didn't expect to be beaten to death.
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:cry: stop the world, i want to get off
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On 2005-04-11 11:11:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-04-09 13:30:00, RTP2003 wrote:
(come on! Who but an idiot would fall for the bullshit at Open Meetings? "Look, Honey! The druggies are all happy and singing Straight songs, complete with goofy hand gestures---there's nothing weird about that...And that Dr. Newton, he's sooo caring and proffessional").
People who are so bereft of anything like authentic culture and personality that even that creepy scene seemed better and more comforting than whatever they had to begin with.
Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones
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This is so true :sad:
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My mother told me that another mother from Straight was pissed when she was asked to turn her shirt inside-out right before open meeting cause it had a small polo symbol on it. HAHA!
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? what up with the polo thing?
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It's because you could put a tiny camera on the logo.
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~you mean the lens of a camera.
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Anyone know about cameras so tiny you can wear them and be undetected?
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Yes, there are cameras that can make you undetectable.
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I'm wearing one now---that's why you see this post when I'm logged on. My user name is
Goddamn! That thing is really powerful!
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I mean anonymous post. It also makes me unable to detect myself or words I do or don't type.
It's a very nice camera, too.
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Funny. I'm looking for serios information here.
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Body-worn cameras.
http://www.spycentre.com/body_worn_video.htm (http://www.spycentre.com/body_worn_video.htm)A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign of weakness and malady.
--Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778)
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that's a slow load.
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On 2005-04-12 07:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"that's a slow load."
There are many "Spy Store" websites. Try searching Google with this criteria:
spy camera body worn
You'll get a whole bunch of sources on the first page.A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper. He must free himself from the habit, just as soon as something does not please him, of calling for the police.
Ludwig Von Mises
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Thanks buddy. You drinkin' yet? I'll buy the first round.
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That was a first clas link, quit griping about load time.
Now, pretty please, does anyone have experience with hidden cameras?
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allright I'll check it out right now....hey that was a good link, and didn't really take that long after all.
whatcha drinkin', wiseguy?
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I don't have time for this. I am asking serious question.
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Shut up and make up your mind. What'r y' havin'?
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On 2005-04-12 09:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
I am asking serious question. "
Here's a place to ask questions about choosing and using digital/concealed cameras:
http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-7594-0.htm ... geID=80853 (http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-7594-0.html?forumID=59&threadID=6918&messageID=80853)
Here's another place to do some digging:
http://wearcam.org/ (http://wearcam.org/)
Happy hunting!It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant examples
--Charles Dickens