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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 01, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
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This is very important. Please give links to articles. Thank you.
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#91345 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=8766&forum=9&start=0#91345)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#18669 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2888&forum=9&start=10#18669)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#38920 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=4055&forum=9&start=20#38920)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#67157 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6602&forum=9&start=10#67157)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#89514 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=8760&forum=9&start=10#89514)
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And PURE is a WWASP competitor, correct?
What's the conection between Randall Hinton and WWASP? Did he work and Tranquility Bay?
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http://www.wwaspsrebuttal.com (http://www.wwaspsrebuttal.com)
http://www.purerebuttal.com (http://www.purerebuttal.com)
:nworthy:
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Hmmm... Two giant piles of dog shit.
THANKS!!!!
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http://www.wwaspsrebuttal.com/wwasps_emails.html (http://www.wwaspsrebuttal.com/wwasps_emails.html)
:razz:
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Wouldn't Sue Scheff know the answer to this one?
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On 2005-04-01 21:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hmmm... Two giant piles of dog shit.
THANKS!!!! "
On this we can agree. I don't know how much time I've spent going through those two sites looking for some substance. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely none. Not a single instance where they provide the actual documents they're talking about. I suppose you're supposed to just "trust the process" and let the website authors interpret it all for you.
:roll: I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.
--Robert Frost, American poet
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Tranquility Bay Statement E: From the Mother of a Former Student
[Name withheld by ISAC] was 15 when I saw the ad in a magazine. It advertised structure, excellent education while addressing issues of adolescents. I was 38, a single mother [identifying information withheld by ISAC].
Little things had started to happen after I was diagnosed. [My daughter] skipped school a few times, was involved in a car accident where another teenager was killed was drinking and driving, staying out and sneaking out.
I made the call from the magazine and discussed with my son then a freshman in college. He looked on the internet, called them and as a father figure in her life thought it was a good program and education.
We were familiar with Jamaica as a traveling family and felt like she would adapt and be happy in the enviroment. But, we didn't tell her we were going to take her to TB. After touring the island for a week, we dropped her off there at a prearranged time. Jay and Randall met us as soon as we pulled into the compound.
[My daughter] didn't realize what was happening or even why when she was placed in handcuffs and finally a straight jacket. Jay assured me this was normal and also reminded that I had chosen to "deliver" her. He wanted to have her scooped from her bed in the middle of the night by strangers and whisked to JA to TB. But, I wanted to see this highly "regarded program" about education and structure.
We did the paper work, I gave them $33,000 cash, US. They took her passport, school documents, books, clothes, etc.
We could hear her screaming and then she stopped. Randall said she stopped because she was with the other "students" and they were having lunch.
I ask to see her room and felt it was a long shot from what had been described as a dorm to me. But, I knew she was spoiled and could use a dose of reality. My son too felt it was time for her to have the structure I couldn't give her.
We were then told that we couldn't talk to her "anytime" as we had been told in the telephone interviews. But, that she would earn those rights based on behavior. How long I ask, "oh it could be six weeks or longer. It depends on her."
We didn't leave Treasure Beach for two days as I wanted to find out more. I tried to talk to guards as they would leave the main road, but they refused to talk as cameras "where everywhere."
We drove to Port Antonio and met with our friends [names withheld by ISAC]. [He] had family in [withheld by ISAC] and he felt he could find out more for me. I went to Kingston and talked to the Embassy, US and the Jamaica officials. There were no reports of anything that was alarming they said. I researched the newspaper archives for articles, still nothing.
We returned to the US. We were appointed a contact, a very nice Jamaican lady that would call me at my expense every week. After 3 weeks and no calls I started call TB every day and sometimes 3 to 4 times per day. I was taking chemo, trying to parent and keep our home and worrying myself to death.
Finally a lady called me, (I don't have her name as those records are in storage) She said [my daughter] was settling into the program quite well but that she had continous yeast infections "from the heat."
I ask for them to take her to the doctor. They didn't for a long time until she bled when she urinated. The doctor turned out to be a paid off quack that worked for TB and kept quiet.
I mailed her prescriptions for the yeast infections. She then became constipated and they said it was because she refused to eat. Soon, I would discover that she was fed so little that a bowel movement only happened rarely.
Finally I was able to talk to her, even though she had not received enough levels "because she needs to hear you say you will not remove her and that you can't!" I checked all the paperwork and couldn't find anything I signed that said that.
When I talked to her it was obvious we were monitored. She did't ask to come home and answered everything as "fine." She sounded so calm and even said, "this is what I need."
By then [my friend in Jamaica] was finding out information from his family.
So, I flew to JA and went with [my friend] to see [name withheld by ISAC] and told her what I knew and how sick [my daughter] was all the time. She told me that she knew several guards and would have them check on [my daughter]. Two days later she called [my friend] and told us that [my daughter] was kept in solitary confinement most of the time. That when she wet herself she had buckets of water poured over the top of the 4x4 booth that she was shackled in. She was given one bowl of cornmeal mush a day and sometimes a piece of fruit and water from a tin bucket.
I called and demanded to speak to Jay or Randall. I went to the site but was refused entry. I drove to Kingston to the embassy and filed complaints. I went to the police headquarters and filed complaints. I can't begin to tell you the hell that I was going through and I will never know all that [my daughter] was going through.
Finally the embassy advised TB to let [my friend] in to see [my daughter], but that I should be kept at a distance so [my daughter] would not see me and "cause problems."
[My friend] was allowed to sit across from [my daughter] in an outside gazebo. She kept her eyes down and barely spoke. Her mouth was covered with blisters and her wrists were bruised. A guard stood close enough to hear and watch everything. [My friend] tried to hug [my daughter] hello but she screamed and stepped back, even though she had known him for several years. I stood on the upper terrace of the dorms and could see she didn't carry herself the same and that she sat with her hands under her legs. She didn't have on any of the clothes that I had sent, but long pants and a man's shirt, even though it was over 100 degrees. She ask [my friend], "how bad to I look? We are not allowed to see in a mirror or even look into the water for a reflection." He said you look a little sad and sick. She didn't answer, but tears slid down her cheeks. She looked bloated. When she arrived six weeks before she was a 5'5" student, with beautiful shiny long hair and weighed 120 pounds. She had been a ballerina most of her life.
Now, she limped, slumped, slurred, and had large bald spots. I later found out they pulled out her hair to make her look as ugly as she really was.
The entire time I am watching her and [my friend], I was surrounded by Randall, two upper level students, and 2 guards.
In about 10 minutes the meeting came to an abrupt end and [my daughter] was led away. She looked up and I thought she saw me, but didn't let on.
I knew that I would get her out, I just didn't know how.
I flew back to the States but no attorney wanted to become involved because of "lack of evidence and no physical evidence."
Five days after I was back into the US, TB called. The call came from Randall on behalf of Jay. [My daughter] was in a clinic and very ill. She had been caught taking food from the night shift along with 3 other girls. "She became so upset that she has made herself ill."
I flew the next morning to Kingston and was met by [my friend].
When I went to the clinic she was not there. the "doctor" would not give me her records or info. He just said, that he "didn't know how she had lived this long." The doctor was in a small town nearby.
We drove to TB. They would not let our car or hand bags through the gates, but they let me go alone. [My friend] stayed with the car. I found her in an unairconditioned room, with no windows, open door no screen on a mat. She could not talk but her eyes were open and dry. Her mouth was matted with blood and her entire body was covered with blisters. She was so filthy that I couldn't stand the stinch. No one was with her. No one came with me. Someone took one bag of her things and threw them over the gate to [my friend].
I picked my child up in my arms and she flinched. She was in rags and I would not have even known her in another enviroment. I saw the lady that was suppose to be my contact. She mouthed, "i'm sorry."
I had just completed a series of chemo and had traveled back and forth 4 or 5 times to JA. But, [my daughter] was so bloated but weighed so little that even at my weight of 105 and sick she was easy to carry. They opened the gate just enough to get her through. [My friend] helped me load her in the back of his car. Someone threw a sheet over the fence.
We drove to Treasure Beach Hotel and I got a room. We put her on the bed and I undressed my child. The smell of the blisters was like rotten flesh. Her hair was full of lice and her sores had magots in them. Her blood pressure was so low we couldn't get a pulse.
We had something like gatorade and forced it down her with a straw. I put her in the tub in cool water but she only stared.
[My friend] went into the village a bought antibiotics and creams and things that I had not brought with me. [My daughter?s] fever was raging.
The next day we drove to Kingston, but the hospital refused to see her when they found out where she had come from. We drove on to Port Antonio and even [my friend?s] doctor, a friend was very guarded in treating her.
She would have to be quaranteened becaused no one knew what she had. But, I soon found out she had been raped, sodomized, beaten, starved, forced to bath in an infested river, wash her clothes in the same river and drink the same water.
I stayed in [Port Antonio] with her for 3 weeks. We slowly started to see an improvement and finally she agreed to go to the Beach for the day. She was afraid of the guard at the Beach and cried. She had to sleep with me. I had to cut most of her hair off to get it free of lice.
Her mouth and teeth were so unkept that she couldn't eat much. I left her there for three additional weeks because I wanted to go to the US first to find out where I should take her. The doctors said she might have "ganga"?
She talked a little to [my friend], but slept on the floor outside of their room. I called every day and finally felt as if she was strong enough to travel and well enough that she would not be put in quaranteen.
When we took off from Montego she started crying and didn't stop for days.
My daughter is now 22, a student and lives in [withheld by ISAC]. She is strong, resourceful, loyal and beautiful.
We now talk about all that happened to her, sometimes in the middle of the night she calls me and sobs.
I can't tell her story because it is hers. It's a story about a young girl and has grown into a strong woman, years older than 22.
My child is alive because I did't give up and because I had insight contacts. I will never forgive myself for my lack of judgement or forgive my government for lack of assistance or knowledge of these programs. And please don't forget, in the magazine ad it was approved with the "Good Housekeeping" seal of approvement.
This is the story of a mother that will never let the world forget what our children have endured.
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If I recall correctly, Randall Hinton was an owner and/or operator of a wilderness type program called White River Adventures in guess where (Puerto Rico) and marketed by guess who (Teen Help Online).
http://www.teenhelponline.com (http://www.teenhelponline.com)
Now is this the SAME Randall Hinton you all are talking about?????
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I do not understand why you (the parent in the testimony) defered to the program. What do you mean they wouldn't let you in. You should've gone to a gun shop and returned armed and prepared to use it if they didn't release your child. In fact, it sounds like they were holding her against your will.
Had I placed my son, rather than his dad, and I decided to remove him... no one from here to hell would've stopped me. Contract or no contract.
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Sure is.
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That is the most enraging, disgusting, terrifying, sick, sadistic, gut-wrenching disturbing shit I have ever seen.
What really just twists the dagger around in my heart is that the authorities apparently didnt care when this woman told them about it. There were doctors involved and they just fucking pussied out of it or were paid hush money.
This really makes me want to tear my hair out. I dont know how that mom or daughter could take this... I dont know how *I* can take this! The first program I read about, that got me into this... about a year ago, now.... was Tranquility Bay.
Ugh, here I am a year later. I've helped people both personally and passively, seen some programs fall... but it seems Tranquility Bay just stays outside the grasp of those who want to tear it down and put an end to the bullshit. Not even a Hurricane could end this shit. :evil:
SOMETHING or SOMEONE better do so, soon. This is a human tragedy. Doing this to a kid anywhere would get you rightfully killed by a vigilante mob, but yet a business gets away with it?
*sigh* I need to go cool off I guess. Was a hot day today... I can very well do without God both in my life and in my painting, but I cannot, suffering as I am, do without something which is greater than I am, which is my life, the power to create.
--Vincent Van Gogh, Dutch painter
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This is the same Randall Hinton. He was hiding out in Puerto Rico. He admitted to the torturing of a kid at TB. He can run,but he can't hide.
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kool aide drinkers at their best. they make me sick.
I wonder how their kids are doing now a days.
97% success
Dr so and so is a real pathic creep. How many years did he say he left his kid in residental treatment? Two in Calif. probably CEDU or Cascade. Then TB. how nice of him.
How's the step mom wifey doing I wonder.
I hope they have nightmares forever.
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Randall Hinton's bio for White River Adventure in Puerto Rico...His bio was recently removed from their site...but here it is enjoy!
Randall Hinton is a husband to a beautiful wife and a father to two daughters and one son. He was employed by Brightway Adolescent Hospital to serve as a Psychiatric Technician under Dr. Goates, Child Psychiatrist for two years. He then went to Cross Creek Programs to work with Students in their Youth Leadership Program for one year. He assisted in establishing Spring Creek Lodge, Montana; Tranquility Bay, Jamaica; and Carolina Springs Academy, South Carolina, as the Assistant Director for each facility. He has worked in the Marketing Department (Teen Help) for 3 years helping parents place their children into the WWASPS Programs. Randall, as the Director, organized the facility and staff of The Academy at Dundee Ranch in Costa Rica. Randall left Dundee Ranch and the WWASP Organization June of the year two thousand and two. He has worked with at risk youth for the past ten years. Randall studied Psychology at Dixie State College. He has now dedicated his life to producing a better atmophere for young men and serving families in need.
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Bloody shite, he's a program baby. Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. :eek:
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Here's the bio I found on an old cache:
White River Adventure Staff
White River Adventure was founded by Randall Hinton and Justin Nielson. Both live with their families in Puerto Rico and have done so for the past two and half years. Justin or Randall is on campus twenty four hours a day and work with our team of professionals to ensure the proper implementation of the program. The idea of White River Adventure is a small environment that assists youth in understanding the importance of assisting and caring for others. This is accomplished through continual service to others, hard work and old fashioned values. We are grateful to our staff for their continued hard work and understand their essential involvement in this process. We look forward to working with your family. Please view below the history of many of our dedicated staff.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
--Bruce Lee
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Now, I don't Know -
But it Seems to me -
*Possibly*
Randy stayed out of the US of A until the statute of limitations ran out on the abuses he perpetrated upon the students from TB's early days. Any leagle eagles care to comment?
It has been suggested he was hiding from WWASP types b/c he had spoken out against them and was afraid of them.
For what ever reason, he seems to have overcome his fear, what ever it actually was.
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It sounds like what he wants to do the same thing at this military academy. He's lying when he says that the program will not be associated with WWASP. I'll bet he's somehow associated by familial ties to Lichfield - he's probably married to one of his daughters. He's connected by blood or marriage somehow. We need to stop him from getting involved in another program in the United States. Write letters to the editor and try to educate the people in that community. It looks like they are quite skeptical already -we need to make them even more by providing them with information about Randall - especially this story of the girl who was abused. I'd suggest getting the address of City Hall in that community - then write a letter to the members of the City Council and provide them with some of this information from survivors. One need only write one letter - it will be copied for all to see. You can also ask that this be made available for the public to see. You could probably e-mail it to the city counsil. Does anyone have the e-mail address?
I am married, not Buried !
-- Steve Webb
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Hello everyone,
It has been brought to my attention that Kemper Military has been recently purchased by Mr. Lichfield and that Randall Hinton will be likely be its director.
I believe the many proud alumni of KMS should know a little about the man behind the new school.
Robert Lichfield, owner of World Wide Association of Specialty Programs, also known as WWASP and WWASPS, is less than credible.
I challenge each and every one of you who reads this post to find out for yourself. Visit http://www.kidsincaptivity.com (http://www.kidsincaptivity.com) and read my newly-released report about Majestic Ranch, one of Lichfiel's facilities in Utah. Do a google search "WWASP abuse" and "Lichfield abuse." Another very informative website that you may want to visit is http://www.emancipationproject.org (http://www.emancipationproject.org).
Hundreds of articles have been published regarding the abusive practices that occur at these facilities. They literally are prisons for children. Children lose their basic human rights. They are cut off from contact with the outside world. Many are physically, psychologically, and some sexually abused. Money goes into the pockets of the wealthy instead of being spent on the children. These children live in poverty while their parents fork out between $3,300 to $5,000 per month.
For the sake of the hundreds of children who, if this is not stopped, will be housed at KMS, please, do your own research and then be pro-active. I believe you have the power to do something before it's too late.
Some of the Lichfield's other facilities include Tranquility Bay in Jamaica (again, Google search the name with the word abuse after it and you will find a wealth of information,) then there's Carolina Springs, Cross Creek Academy, Spring Creek Lodge, Majestic Ranch, Ivy Ridge, Darrington Academy.
Some of the facilities run by WWASP have been closed due to child abuse and neglect. Among those are Casa by the Sea in Mexico, Dundee Ranch in Costa Rica, and Pacific Cove in Western Samoa. Again, Google them with the word abuse.
I welcome you to respond with your contact information so that together we can create positive solutions to these challenging problems.
Please contact me at kidsincaptivity.com. and check out the links below for recent articles regarding the press conference that was recently held at the Capitol building in Salt Lake City, Utah, ?Blow the Whistle on Child Abuse in Utah.?
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600116696,00.html (http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600116696,00.html)
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=154438 (http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=154438)
http://sltrib.com/search/ci_2589739 (http://sltrib.com/search/ci_2589739)
Thank you for your concern.
Isabelle
http://www.kidsincaptivity.com (http://www.kidsincaptivity.com)
http://www.emancipationproject.org (http://www.emancipationproject.org)
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Please, voice your concerns!
http://www.academyparents.com/kemper.html (http://www.academyparents.com/kemper.html)
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On 2005-04-07 08:25:00, BuzzKill wrote:
"Now, I don't Know -
But it Seems to me -
*Possibly*
Randy stayed out of the US of A until the statute of limitations ran out on the abuses he perpetrated upon the students from TB's early days. Any leagle eagles care to comment?"
I'm not a legal eagle but doesn't the statute of limitations clock stop ticking when you are out of jurisdiction?
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SIBS is open for business. Let's go people...bring 'em in.
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//I'm not a legal eagle but doesn't the statute of limitations clock stop ticking when you are out of jurisdiction?//
I don't know? Does it?
That would be very interesting.
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Please!
glenlee50@yahoo.com (http://mailto:glenlee50@yahoo.com), jdavis@undata.com (http://mailto:jdavis@undata.com), bob_irish@hotmail.com (http://mailto:bob_irish@hotmail.com), gfshore@yahoo.com (http://mailto:gfshore@yahoo.com)
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On 2005-04-07 08:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hello everyone,
It has been brought to my attention that Kemper Military has been recently purchased by Mr. Lichfield and that Randall Hinton will be likely be its director.
I believe the many proud alumni of KMS should know a little about the man behind the new school.
Robert Lichfield, owner of World Wide Association of Specialty Programs, also known as WWASP and WWASPS, is less than credible.
I challenge each and every one of you who reads this post to find out for yourself. Visit http://www.kidsincaptivity.com (http://www.kidsincaptivity.com) and read my newly-released report about Majestic Ranch, one of Lichfiel's facilities in Utah. Do a google search "WWASP abuse" and "Lichfield abuse." Another very informative website that you may want to visit is http://www.emancipationproject.org (http://www.emancipationproject.org).
Hundreds of articles have been published regarding the abusive practices that occur at these facilities. They literally are prisons for children. Children lose their basic human rights. They are cut off from contact with the outside world. Many are physically, psychologically, and some sexually abused. Money goes into the pockets of the wealthy instead of being spent on the children. These children live in poverty while their parents fork out between $3,300 to $5,000 per month.
For the sake of the hundreds of children who, if this is not stopped, will be housed at KMS, please, do your own research and then be pro-active. I believe you have the power to do something before it's too late.
Some of the Lichfield's other facilities include Tranquility Bay in Jamaica (again, Google search the name with the word abuse after it and you will find a wealth of information,) then there's Carolina Springs, Cross Creek Academy, Spring Creek Lodge, Majestic Ranch, Ivy Ridge, Darrington Academy.
Some of the facilities run by WWASP have been closed due to child abuse and neglect. Among those are Casa by the Sea in Mexico, Dundee Ranch in Costa Rica, and Pacific Cove in Western Samoa. Again, Google them with the word abuse.
I welcome you to respond with your contact information so that together we can create positive solutions to these challenging problems.
Please contact me at kidsincaptivity.com. and check out the links below for recent articles regarding the press conference that was recently held at the Capitol building in Salt Lake City, Utah, ?Blow the Whistle on Child Abuse in Utah.?
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600116696,00.html (http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600116696,00.html)
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=154438 (http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=154438)
http://sltrib.com/search/ci_2589739 (http://sltrib.com/search/ci_2589739)
Thank you for your concern.
Isabelle
http://www.kidsincaptivity.com (http://www.kidsincaptivity.com)
http://www.emancipationproject.org (http://www.emancipationproject.org)
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Correction, there has been no sale of the property yet.
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On 2005-04-06 17:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If I recall correctly, Randall Hinton was an owner and/or operator of a wilderness type program called White River Adventures in guess where (Puerto Rico) and marketed by guess who (Teen Help Online).
http://www.teenhelponline.com (http://www.teenhelponline.com)
Now is this the SAME Randall Hinton you all are talking about?????
:???: "
Is this the same Randall Hinton that is mentioned in the thread about the proposed military academy Kemper?
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Is Hinton connected by family ties to Lichfield. It seems like he has the same attitude about education as Lichfield and his associates who proudly proclaim that one doesn't need education to "help kids."
Is he a nephew, connected by marriage somehow - a cousin. He must be related to him in some way. He started working in the WWASP programs right after high school. Lived in the St George area - that's where Dixie College is. Does anyone know? It's just interesting because so many of these people in WWASP are connected by blood or marriage.....
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Interestinger and interestinger.
It seems both the Hinton boys are driving Bob's cars:
But the police report points out that Lichfield signed the check for the $100,000 deposit to the city, and that the Hintons are driving a vehicle registered in Lichfield's name.
http://www.boonvilledailynews.com/artic ... /news1.txt (http://www.boonvilledailynews.com/articles/2005/04/09/news/news1.txt)
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Not only that but the house Hinton is renting in Boonville, and living in with his three kids (God help them) and his wife, is owned by the city of Boonville's industrial developing president, Ned Beach. Beach is one of the only people in the city of Boonville in favor of the purchase of Kemper Military Academy by the WWASP Klan.
Golden Pond Ltd (the financial backbone for the purchase of Kemper) is also owned by Robert Lichfield.
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