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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 26, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
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Hi Everyone,
My name is Chris and I attended Ivy Ridge parts of last year. I am interested in once again returning to Ivy RIdge for a protest and wanted to check this board for interest. There has been lots of controversy in regards to Ivy Ridge lately, and the local press is looking for a good story. I am still very concerned about Ivy Ridge because I know many still within its walls are experiencing the kind of treatment I once recieved. I'd love to talk to anyone who is interested in helping out or has advice. Let me know!
Chris
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Based on my limited experience:
First and foremost, check out the local statutes. Usually they cover things like staying on public property, not obstructing the flow of traffic, etc. You want to stay within the law and also know if a cop is mistaken or bullshitting outright when they tell you you can't do something. If/when they show up, approach them as friends. They might be a bit predisposed to not view you that way. But if you're respectful and cooperative, they may treat you well. Usually, they just don't want any trouble. If they treat you badly despite your good behavior, you can hassle them w/ administrative bs later. Trust me, they hate that a LOT more than anything like talking back or name calling.
Consider (but do not automatically invite) organizations that have an interest in the issues of concern to you.
Know what you're protesting. Come up w/ a short, to the point flyer that explains the basic idea in simple terms and links to more info. No more than one sheet, two sides, maybe trifold.
Know your audience. Who are you talking to? The school? The visiting parents? Law enforcement? (who will, doubtless, be called) The media (really a lot harder to get their attention than you may think) The neighbors? Decide who's attention you're trying to get and pitch it to them; base your message on the points that make it important to them.
Pick the right site. The school location might not be the best one, unless there's some sort of gathering w/ people going in and out. A local town meeting might be better (in which case you'd want to be an invited guest speaker, not an angry mob)
I honestly don't think this will work out too well. WWASPs strategy of shipping the kids states away from home is quite effective. If you wanted to hold a regular vigil, well it was quite difficult at Straight in the `80's, and they had hundreds upon hundreds of kids from within an hour's drive. You see the difficulty.
So you may want to consider staging it at the next graduation or parent seminar location instead. It really is all about the parents, anyway.
Unless, of course, your primary audience is the kids inside who might be much encouraged to hang on a little longer just knowing you're out there. Is it possible w/ that campus layout to let them know you're there w/o breaking local ordinances?
Just a few thoughts.
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If you could get me a plane ticket I'd come picket with you with my online name clearly marked on it! :grin:
During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
--James Madison, U.S. President
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This Chris from Whitmore who was in Ivy Ridge?
Just wondering.
About Ivy Ridge - fire me off an email.
Or a Private Message.
What ever you like.
Hope everyone is having a pleasant Easter Sunday.
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Chris, I know people and organizations that might be interested in taking part. E-mail me privately at jeff_berryman@excite.com.
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Send me more info about exactly what youre trying to do and I might be in (Re: antigen's post). I was one of the first kids at Ivy Ridge and also have alot of phone numbers of people who might possibly be down for that too. I'm a paralegal, so if you need any help finding out statues and laws in Ogdensburg, let me know.
E-mail me back at :
LSwigert05@hotmail.com
Thanks Leah