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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: CedusAShitHole on March 25, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
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it is shut down they went bankrupt
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yeah, it's true.
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I have heard nothing of this. I'll believe it when I see it in the news. The only school I know about was RMA that closed and they just had a parent conference and nothing of the sort was mentioned. More Bait - Don't bite.
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It's true. I am a parent of a CEDU GRAD, and today they announced the closing of all cEDU schools. It is amazing.
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Indeed it is the truth!
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/ced ... 50325.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/cedu-closure050325.html)
CEDU TO CLOSE ALL SCHOOLS
Media Contact:
Julia Andrick
208-265-0607, Ext. 130
208-255-6920/cell
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/ced ... 50321.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/cedu-talbott-050321.html)
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-03-25 20:54 ]
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I am VERY glad to hear this news! This is going to be an even better year for SIBS than I thought!
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My dad works at Ascent. I say works cause he is still there, even though he is not getting paid. Buying food on his credit card to help feed the kids that are still up there. I read about the abuse and the law suits, but he was trying to make a difference in a positive way. I hope you all have a great easter, cause my family wont.
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can you please email me timhudson@gmail.com I want to talk about whats going on at ascent.
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Why is this guy not getting paid and footing the bill to feed the kids? What happened to all the money the parents paid?
Lady, you're really missing the target here. It's not the fault of the ppl who got the place shut down. It's the fault of the owners and staff. If they couldn't pay the staff and support the kids, they should have sent them home already.You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
--Albert Einstein
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OMG IAM SO HAPPY
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oh my god, although this is an amazing event for some of us, there are now 500+ unemployed people. whether you liked all of them or not, A.) some of them really kicked ass, and B.) what the hell are all of those people going to do for food? some of them live together and some of them have familys to take care of. stop being so coldhearted towards them.
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is that legitimate?
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What do suppose was the final blow?
Or the biggest factors?
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On 2005-03-26 06:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"oh my god, although this is an amazing event for some of us, there are now 500+ unemployed people. whether you liked all of them or not, A.) some of them really kicked ass, and B.) what the hell are all of those people going to do for food? some of them live together and some of them have familys to take care of. stop being so coldhearted towards them."
Don't try and take away this moment for those who truly suffered in these programs. It IS sad 500 people will be out of work, but it is an opportunity for them to find work in other more legitimate areas, not the end of the world. People loose their jobs every day, and what do they do? they pick themselves up, dust themselves off and move on. I think if they are that talented and caring, they will find other work. Things have a way of coming together if you keep in mind that it is an opprotunity to change and it may be so much better!
In addition I wish to ask you who is being cold hearted here? Let these people have their moment of celebration, its been a long time coming for them. There are people who were "treated" in these programs who probably find it hard keeping jobs because of the things these programs did to their minds too. Let them have their moment without trying to guilt them, they have had enough of that to last a lifetime already.
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http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/art ... news01.txt (http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/articles/2005/03/26/news/news01.txt)
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Fantastic! I'd like to think that the dutiful contributors to this forum had quite a bit to do with this development.
Powerless druggies? Please...
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this is the fuckin greatest thing... i am sooo happy...the kids get to be regular HUMAN BEINGS again.... yes the did shit to get there...but let them live a life to make their own damn choices...not lock them away and teach them that they were broken and that they needed to be fixed...
its great that cedu is not there anymore to teach the wrong fuckin lesson...
by the way i was known as noelle...i went to cedu for two years... and i am worse then ever...thanks assholse
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jesus christ...yes he probably does care but really....were u sent away ??? no ..if he had sent u away u would feel the fuckin same that i do...i am glad its shutting down.....im not gonna have a good easter either...u wanna hear me whine about it? god damn... he may be caring... i cared alot about staff at my school.. so fuckin wut...get over it hell get a new job... why dont u feel the pain of the kids who went there... and not whine about a measly job...
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I wish this would have happened while I was attending BCA, well, anyways, just want to hope Bill Brown and any other cool counselors are ok
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Bill Brown was a mormon preaching little bitch, who sucked todd degraffs dick
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oh my god, although this is an amazing event for some of us, there are now 500+ unemployed people. whether you liked all of them or not, A.) some of them really kicked ass, and B.) what the hell are all of those people going to do for food? some of them live together and some of them have familys to take care of. stop being so coldhearted towards them.
I am not in even a tiny bit worried about those folks. After all there were not any worry's about my family when I worked over 40 hours a week for over 3 years. "Never mind that I had small kids who needed me as much as the teens at the school did." Then when out of the blue they tell me "you don't have a job here" No one said Hey whats up??
If in fact the CEDU had not used people and trashed them and kids then this day may have never come.
As for the Kick ass Staff. Most of the ones I know of got out and far away long ago.
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SIBS will never get off the ground because we need a new project and you have proven yoursely by your own words to be a complete psycho fanatic worthy of our efforts to keep you from getting anywhere. Hell, I can't believe you haven't been killed already.
No parent in his or her right mind would trust you to suck their worst enemy's dick - so shut the fuck up and go away.
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Well, when they fired me for treating the kids with respect, after they demanded I "buy in" to the abuse they perpatrated on kids, which I witnessed and fought daily, I don't feel sorry except for some of the teachers, the computer guys, the kitchen ladies and the maintence workers. OK, FUCK! I do feel sorry for some of the staff and management, but very few.
This morning, I read about CEDU closing in the Spokesman Review Newspaper. YES, this is a dream come true. But, let's not forget that there are still people like "Dr Fucktard" out there and a few parents who are stupid enough to trust him.
Will you all join me in taking the remainder of these hell holes down one-by-one. CEDU was the big dog. If he could be killed then the others can too. And. :tup: thank you Ginger, SOS, Blown away, and the countless others who helped bring this about by exposing the "hidden facts." But, folks, it is not over, don't forget that many of those demented staff members will run out and pool their resourses to get other schools started.
Like CEDU, they will try to get rich on the backs of scared and desperate parents who trust them and believe their lies.
And, you parents', there is a better solution. Build ultra strong relationships with your kids, so they love, care for, and trust you. It was no great deed for me to do that as a BCA therapist, and many of the kids still contact me, and I am still their father and friend. They, many of them are still going through hard times, but they are working on themselves.
Be gentle with yourselves and your kids. You are both wrong and both right. Please know and remember, "relationship is everything." The few respected and loved staff at CEDU knew this, and kids did change because they cared about their mentors - therapists, or staff and finally for themselves. That was the only "magic" CEDU ever held. CEDU died because staff forgot that very lesson about rock solid relationships.
It does not take therapy, It does not take a program, and it does not take a staff member to help a kid - just a good relationship with a father, mother, brother, sister, uncle, or, friends. All that the successful staff and therapists ever did at CEDU was build a bond and ask the kid, out of respect for that bond, to care about himself and the relationship. So, parents, It is a big investment, and it will take time, and they might not quit pot or sex. But you can still love them and teach them care for others, skills, and responsibiliy, and let them learn the hard way - out there. Just be there for them. Sure they will abuse you, they will use you, but don't sell out your love. take "the path with a heart." They are growing, and growing is hard - respect that and be empathetic. Model patience, kindness, love, care for others, and for life in your own behavior - they will catch on after many long hard years. I did when I was a kid. Have faith in your kid and yourself.
Hint my name is not Roy, but "what we do in life echoes in eternity."
Programs never worked. It was the relationships that worked.
Peace
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I am thrilled that CEDU appears to be collapsing. Unfortunately what I expect to see is a huge number of small, independently run schools spring up in the northwest operating under the radar until complaints are filed against them. That is, after all, the way that the smaller programs have sprung up in the past (former CEDU staff members).
Another worry of mine (not to be the pessimist that I am) is that it is just a creative way that Fenton R. "Pete" Talbott came up with to dodge the lawsuit(s), and the whole system will reappear with a new name similar to the Straight closings, however on a larger scale.
My actual hunch though is that Fenton R. "Pete" Talbott is only a "Richard Gere from Pretty Woman" who maneuvered his way to the Chairman of the Board position just to cash in on a company that had a huge worth (property) but large publicity liabilities.
We will see if my hunch is right as it plays out, but I would like to ask everyone to post the names of anyone in authority at the current CEDU schools just to make it easier to connect them to any new programs started. I do expect that we will see several "new programs" in the near future, and it would definitely be helpful if we could do a web search and immediately connect them to their past careers.
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I am thrilled that CEDU appears to be collapsing. Unfortunately what I expect to see is a huge number of small, independently run schools spring up in the northwest operating under the radar until complaints are filed against them. That is, after all, the way that the smaller programs have sprung up in the past (former CEDU staff members).
Another worry of mine (not to be the pessimist that I am) is that it is just a creative way that Fenton R. "Pete" Talbott came up with to dodge the lawsuit(s), and the whole system will reappear with a new name similar to the Straight closings, however on a larger scale.
My actual hunch though is that Fenton R. "Pete" Talbott is only a "Richard Gere from Pretty Woman" who maneuvered his way to the Chairman of the Board position just to cash in on a company that had a huge worth (property) but large publicity liabilities.
We will see if my hunch is right as it plays out, but I would like to ask everyone to post the names of anyone in authority at the current CEDU schools just to make it easier to connect them to any new programs started. I do expect that we will see several "new programs" in the near future, and it would definitely be helpful if we could do a web search and immediately connect them to their past careers.
That was me, forgot to log in first. Sorry.
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No mention of this at the Brown Schools website.
Closing 7 programs leaves them with 5.
http://www.brownschools.com/map.html (http://www.brownschools.com/map.html)
They dumped all their 6 psych hospitals in 2003 and ventured into the BM (education) industry, following numerous restraint deaths and other problems with staff and neighbors of their facilities. What next?
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:k9 ... s%22&hl=en (http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:k9zG7nQxySMJ:alt.cimedia.com/statesman/specialreports/restraint/statement_0203.pdf+%22brown+schools%22&hl=en)
http://www.houstonpsychiatry.org/housto ... index_html (http://www.houstonpsychiatry.org/houstonpsychiatry/1049307996/index_html)
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FYI, as to those kids going home to 'normal' lives:
The announcement that CEDU is closing all their schools in Idaho, California and Vermont immediately has put hundreds of parents in a bind, with no warning, and needing to make immediate decisions as to where to take their child next. To help, several schools and consultants have offered to make special efforts to help CEDU parents through short term holds, reduced fees, or expedited enrollment decisions. For a list of those who have so far offered to help, go to: http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/ced ... index.html (http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/cedu-altplcmt-index.html)
For programs and consultants, this offer is open if you are willing to provide some extra consideration for CEDU parents. Please let me know by e-mail at http://www.strugglingteens.com (http://www.strugglingteens.com)
To remove yourself from future mailings, click the link below.
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why dont the parents have morals and take care of their own children? hows that as a decicion? im sorry if im harsh but the parents need to take a look and see that they are part of the problem as well. deborah :
dont send something away to get "fixed" when it was never broken in the first place.
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SIBS is a bunch of crap. Get the hell of this site.
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lookatmenow,
You haven't been around long enough to know that I do not support the industry. I can see how you might have perceived it that way. I was simply reporting that the troups are rallying to find other placements for the kids currently in CEDU facilities. Disappointing, but not surprising.
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Freaking astounding!
http://bonnercountydailybee.com/article ... news01.txt (http://bonnercountydailybee.com/articles/2005/03/26/news/news01.txt)
They interview one after another parent and staffer who haven't got a clue why this happened. Are they even slightly curious? It's hard for me to imagine that they don't actually know, or at least suspect something already.
But they just go on and on and on
"What you know?"
"Me? Never saw it commin'"
"You"?
"Nope, me neither. Like a bolt of lightening out of the sky!"
Oh brother!
But all the towns folks are deeply saddened to lose their blood money. What a cryin' shame! :roll: so long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?
--stephen Hawking, English scientist
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Congratulations to all of you that helped make it happen.
The abrupt announcement, leaving kids and parents in a state of frenzy shows just how much Cedu really cared, doesn't it. When the bucks are gone......
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im sorry deborah...i guess i missunderstood ... and wut exactly r u dissapointed in? i didnt get that part?
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Disappointing that the kids will most likely be placed elsewhere instead of returning to their lives.
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I've got to ask: Did the parents get a refund for services not yet rendered? It didn't seem clear from that article or else I missed it.
Do you think they saw bad times coming and got an account in the Caymans or Panama?
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your dad may work at ascent and im sorry he has lost his job but come from our prespective i dont know your dad but when i was at ascent no staff cared about me or what they did to me i still have nightmares about going back there ascent to me was aplace where i was yelled at and belittled constantly i dont think one person could have made a difference being in a crowd of indignant rednecks
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On 2005-03-26 21:28:00, alternativa wrote:
"I've got to ask: Did the parents get a refund for services not yet rendered? It didn't seem clear from that article or else I missed it.
Do you think they saw bad times coming and got an account in the Caymans or Panama?"
Actually, I was just reading over at Struggling Teen http://www (http://www). strugg ling te ens. com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=14 (remove the spaces from the url, I don't want to promote their traffic so I'm doing it this way from now on)
There's some talk of a program that shut down leaving parents in the lurch for some funding. Topic is "Red Flags and Good Questions" I had to laugh over the sorrow that some of them couldn't afford to ship the kids off again after that. Waaa! :rofl: Poverty does have it's perks sometimes, I suppose.
There's another one in the "Program Questions" forum from just Thursday asking if CEDU would be the right choice for their 12yo kid, who just graduated SUWS.
My oh my!
I don't usually read over there. But I had to look. I recently found out that they don't get anywhere near half the traffic we do. Wonder why... :rofl:
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
Andrew Tannenbaum
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WHY CEDU DOESN?T GET IT ?
Actually, not understanding that CEDU and it's program was the problem, not understanding that they have been abusing kids for 36 years, not understanding that you can't treat mentally ill or socially marginalized people without having ethical standards has been the whole problem since the beginning.
When I was there, I wrote two Brown Schools CEOs and told them exactly that the problem was "that nobody on the program staff had ethics and that the ditching of the "Brown Schools Code of Ethics" upon its introduction to staff in 2000 would run them out of business," but they didn't even reply.
Bottom line is that it all can be explained by what I call "The David Koresh Syndrome." The fact is that, when a program disallows outside information, training, paradigm shifts, self questioning, free thought, and dialogue, it can never see either the errors of its ways or the demise of itself. That demise is now come.
CEDU like most other cults, take Scientology, Mormonism, Hari Krishna?s, David Koresh, The Children of God, Synanon, and Straight. They see only what they want to see. They believe only what they want to believe.
Mormons are a good example, they believe they are special people, superior people, and are becoming Gods. If you are God, is there any point in questioning yourself or your deeds? No, your only purpose is to make others think, act, and feel exactly like you - so they can be superior exactly like you. Superiority is pro-survival and therefore hard to give up. So, you disavow anyone or anything that questions you. Think, don't all con men make their mark feel superior before they screw him for everything he has? This is the secret of the cult. You believe because, if you don't, you are flawed and boring like all the rest of us. You just can't handle that, so you go into denial and stay there.
Well, welcome to reality CEDU. You are no better than the kids and critics - the intellectually, but not spiritually exolved, human masses.
So, the only problem they all have is that the propheets, the workshops, the raps and the ceremony did not actually make them superior beings. It only made them THINK they were superior.
Belief is powerful. You can temporarily change by believing in yourself, but, at some point, a foundation must be placed under that belief. CEDU and its converts had no foundation, (except their own self glorification), and they all are in for a rude awakening in the real world where most people look you over, challenge you, and think you are an idiot or an asshole if you believe in your own higher purpose in life, your own emotional growth, your own superiority.
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One thing that tells you how the Brown schools operate. Most of the families are on credit card debit or bank account debit for tuition. Cedu charged everyone one March 24th for the month of April knowing that they were going to shut down on April 25th and declare bankruptcy. In addition they immediately shut down the CEDU email system so allof the remaining staff that is working free to try to make sure the kids get home done't have email.
My daughter went there, but I pulled here 3 months ago.
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I made a mistake in the previous email. They charged everyone on March 24th knowning they were going to shut down March 26th!
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On 2005-03-27 16:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
In addition they immediately shut down the CEDU email system so allof the remaining staff that is working free to try to make sure the kids get home done't have email.
Well that explains why we're not hearing anything from that staffer who was posting earlier. I was really looking forward to hearing from him, too.Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--Annie Dillard, "Pilgrim at Tinker Creek"
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at first people didnt believe me but then i was practically screamin at them " I'm not lyin" today is a great day lol :smile:
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To Roy:
That was very well put. Very eloquent and clear.
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Thank you,
It is always nice to hear that you were understood.
Peace
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It's about damn time for these schools to go down, but lets not forget our good times w/ our friends, also all the cool counselors that are now unemployed........NICE JOB BROWN SCHOOLS.........IDIOTS
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Please don't spam.
God is inconceivable, immortality is unbelievable, but duty is peremptory and absolute.
--George Eliot, author
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To Roy:
You write really beautifully. You should write a book about dealing with adolescents.
Ginger writes beautifully as well--but she should write a different book--not sure which one though
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So where do people sent the troubled kids now? Is it somewhere worse like Provo?
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On 2005-03-28 06:56:00, NivekOgre wrote:
"So where do people sent the troubled kids now? Is it somewhere worse like Provo?"
I sure hope not!
To Cedu Parents:
With cedu gone, It's time to take responsibility and raise your kids.
They are your children! No one can love them more or is better suited to guide them than you!
No one else can fix your families' problems for you, you have to do it. If everything you tried before failed, then get creative! Try something else,get help if you need it, but YOU have to be there, and YOU must make it work!
Talk to your kids. LISTEN to what they say.
Take the time off work, forget about your appointments & professional obligations, fuck what other people say or think!
Nothing is more important than family, especially our children...and no personal sacrifice is too great to ensure their well being!
And if you disagree with the last sentence, then you have no business being anyone's parent in the first place!
[ This Message was edited by: SON OF SERBIA on 2005-03-28 12:35 ]
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On 2005-03-28 12:26:00, SON OF SERBIA wrote:
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On 2005-03-28 06:56:00, NivekOgre wrote:
"So where do people sent the troubled kids now? Is it somewhere worse like Provo?"
I sure hope not!
To Cedu Parents:
With cedu gone, It's time to take responsibility and raise your kids.
They are your children! No one can love
them more or is better suited to guide
them than you!
No one else can fix your families' problems for you, you have to do it. If everything you tried before failed, then get creative! Try something else,get help if you need it, but YOU have to be there, and YOU must make it work!
Talk to your kids. LISTEN to what they say.
Take the time off work, forget about your appointments & professional obligations, fuck what other people say or think!
Nothing is more important than family, especially our children...and no personal sacrifice is too great to ensure their well being!
And if you disagree with the last sentence, then you have no business being anyone's parent in the first place!
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Truer words have not been spoken. Parents and families are woven together. Every part influences the other.
The individual influences the family. The family influences each individual in the family, as each individual influences each other - both parts and groups are influenced individually and collectively.
The marriage is influenced the same as the kids by the values and styles of each person or holon.
It is a system. Would you fix your broken engine by fixing the air conditioner? Would the air conditioner be happy to sit in a broken car? Would a teen from a sick family system fix himself and thereby fix anything in the family that makes him who he is? Can he go back and be perfect in a fucked up family? Mayhe the family would be happy with him but not with itself. Would he be happy with the family for long? Yes, if he moves out and goes to college or to work. Did the school make him respect you? Sorry, but that is mythology. Only you can make him or her respect you - by changing your values.
The individual and each family member are further influenced by the community, then economics, then religion or lack therof.
Finally, Sadly, all of this is influenced by culture. In this country values our are based upon short term solutions, the short term, dead, "fix" of money, property, and status.
Money and goods actually never fixed any social system, but they did make people weak and lazy - too weak and lazy to be good parents.
Look, the problem is in the system. A system that is unbalanced or balanced improperly and unjustly.
Now, I'm not a femily values, religious nut type. I am simply trying to illustrate how deep in shit you are and how much of a waste and injustice it is to send your kid away to be "fixed."
Son of serbia has it exactly correct.
There is no magic solution. The only solution is each person in the family coming together and changing the way each communicates, relates, loves, expresses emotion, and mostly - What do they value, property or relationships - whatever it is.
Each individual is part of the problem, but the biggest part is almost always the way parents have one set of values for their kids and another for themselves. Further, we have all been taught the wrong values by a relationally bankrupt country that values only individual power and property, a country "without a heart" that breeds people without a heart.
"Follow the path with a heart." Hint - Bombs are not heart. That is what Son of Serbia is saying. Listen to him. Raise your own kids, Solve your own problems, get family therapy if you can't fix it. But never send your kids away. Never.
Sincerely,
Your local family therapist
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[ This Message was edited by: Roy on 2005-03-28 15:03 ]
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I agree fully. In order to fix a family, you can't seperate it. All the pieces of the puzzle must be present.
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On 2005-03-26 08:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-03-26 06:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"oh my god, although this is an amazing event for some of us, there are now 500+ unemployed people. whether you liked all of them or not, A.) some of them really kicked ass, and B.) what the hell are all of those people going to do for food? some of them live together and some of them have familys to take care of. stop being so coldhearted towards them."
Don't try and take away this moment for those who truly suffered in these programs. It IS sad 500 people will be out of work, but it is an opportunity for them to find work in other more legitimate areas, not the end of the world. People loose their jobs every day, and what do they do? they pick themselves up, dust themselves off and move on. I think if they are that talented and caring, they will find other work. Things have a way of coming together if you keep in mind that it is an opprotunity to change and it may be so much better!
In addition I wish to ask you who is being cold hearted here? Let these people have their moment of celebration, its been a long time coming for them. There are people who were "treated" in these programs who probably find it hard keeping jobs because of the things these programs did to their minds too. Let them have their moment without trying to guilt them, they have had enough of that to last a lifetime already.
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you bastard, you dont fucking know me, you dont know all the shit ive had to deal with. i in NO WAY support cedu, it is an evil vile place and i am glad it is gone, but there are some very good people with very kind hearts who are know SOL and you want to celebrate?! fuck you, your an asshole. dont try talking down to me either or trying to guilt trip me for saying the truth, have some compassion you shithead.
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It sounds like you still have some serious sorting out to do after your cedu experience, buddy
O-P-P
(Yeah, you know me)
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For those who are curious.
I am one of the 250 or so who lost their job on Friday in North Idaho. None of the staff, or even the regional managers was aware that the financial problems at CEDU had reached such dire proportions until we did not receive our paychecks on Thurs. We were told that a meeting of the upper management/financial backers would take place on Fri., and that an announcement would be made late in the day informing us of when we might receieve our checks. I have since been told that the two primary investors in Brown Schools 1) George McGowan and his partner, Delough (sp?) and 2)a group called "Teachers" could not reach agreement on a plan or price for a possible sale to other investors, and instead chose to immediately close the schools and have filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which means all the schools property and assets will be sold off to pay it's debts. The root of CEDU's financial problems as it has been explained to me goes back to the time 6-7 years ago when Brown Schools purchased it from Mel Wasserman. Apparently just prior to the sale, the Wassermans made an effort to fill the schools up quickly (particularly RMA), and created an inflated picture of what CEDU's revenue producing capacity was, which resulted in Brown Schools paying way too much for CEDU. They have tried numerous measures in the past few years to rectify this, but were unsuccessful. This is particularly troublesome to those of us who currently worked there, as for the most part BCA, NWA, and Ascent were profitable in the context of their own budgets, but not in the context of paying off loans for the inflated price paid for them.
There are attempts being made by some staff, current parents, and ed consultants to reach out to alumni students and families or other investors to reorganize and create an ongoing program or programs, but it is likely that the window for this, at least on the current properties will be short.
Parents of current students have also been making donations to help the staff, who have not been paid a cent for the last 3 weeks work, and are unlikely to see much or any of the money as it is tied up in bankruptcy. Many have continued to come to work and help the kids and families get ready to move on.
As a relative newcomer to the CEDU system, I am sympathetic to those who had to endure some of the "old school" CEDU approach. Someone earlier posted about how the best staff and therapists were those that tried to create a bond with students and then appealed to their desire to create something better for themselves and their families. I couldn't agree more. While I'll acknowledge that there were vestiges of the "old school", while I was there I never saw anything that I considered abuse, and had I, I would have reported it to Child Protection.
I can understand those who may have been mistreated feeling a sense of relief or even some kind of vindictive joy at CEDU's closing. But I hope some can understand that there were many who worked there out of a sincere desire to help and care for kids, and not for money. I made a decent living at this, but not enough to, for example, send my child to a CEDU, let alone a regular boarding school. The loss of 250 jobs to the Bonners Ferry area will be a devastating blow to a community that doesn't have much to begin with.
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Cedu in Running springs has been in trouble for a few years. I don't understand why employees did not see the writing on the wall. It has just gotten worse in the passed 6 months. The Cedu employees should seen a red flag when Auto Deposit was taken away on there checks. They could not make good on payroll over a month ago. They could not secure the funds with the bank. As far as the wassermans making something bigger then what it was I don't think so. At lest when the Wassermans owned it they cared about there employees. I have worked for Cedu for almost 20 years and when the brown schools bought it. It really took a shit. I know years ago Cedu Campus in Running Springs was the $$$$ backer for RMA when they got started. I don't understand why the employees at the Running Springs campus did not catch on. I was not suprised at all. 1.They had a lay off a few months back Bill Shea (He was a big salary employee) and a few others were let go. 2. They were not keeping up with taking care of the facilities(nothing was being fixed.) Heck they did not even have a fire system up and running. (It has not worked in 3 years) That in itself was a big violation. And then came the auto deposit of payroll taken away. I am so sorry that so many people lost there jobs. I wish everyone the best. And hope the kids are safe back at home with there parents. God bless
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I hope that bonner county makes it through this blow. it is really unjust. i believe that we will see more of this type of incompassionate capitalism with the current administration. I hope that everyone writes letters. you representatives are meant to represent you. actions should be taken to stop industry and corporate america from doing this type of thing to america.
I am a tree hugger i have no problem saying that, an environmentalist to the bone, i love this planet, this universe, i will continue to speak out to protect the environment and the world i love.
i quote grist.org:
Do you love breathing air and drinking water? Mountains, oceans, cities, streams? Want kids to grow up healthy, happy, and peaceful? That's environmentalism. It's about everyone and everything you love.
speak out prove us all wrong and show us all that environmentalism is not dead.
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I think Bonners Ferry is getting it's just deserts, that's all. Nobody in that damned town gave a care about where their money came from for all those years. Now they're crying in their beer cause it suddenly went away. Next time, beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
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On 2005-03-29 08:40:00, mikehunt wrote:
"I think Bonners Ferry is getting it's just deserts, that's all. Nobody in that damned town gave a care about where their money came from for all those years. Now they're crying in their beer cause it suddenly went away. Next time, beware of Greeks bearing gifts."
I couldn't agree more Laura...And if there's no jobs left in Bonners, then I would suggest the residents there move to where the work is, and get real jobs! Bonners Ferry is cursed as far as I'm concerned...I can't think of a more deserving fate than for that place to become a ghost town!
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I,ll play along with that - have fun fucking with Newton - wink