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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: TPalumbo on March 15, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
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Hello,I was directed to this website by my sister. Her Username is BSarro. I have a couple of things to say about this website. Number One- My sister came here seeking help in a very, very, tough time in her life and you all were not helpful to her in anyway. Number two- I feel very strongly that all of you who are against all these programs need to let go.If you are able to post here, you are obviously not dead.All of you need to let go and move on with your lives. Number three- I was informed that Ginger Warbis is the head honcho of this website.Mrs. Warbis, you are enabling so many posters in not being able to let go and move on with their lives. I feel that you would be able to make a REAL DIFFERENCE if you could change the meaning of this site from encouraging these people to go on and on and not go on wih their lives to a website where you and others could help others let go and go on with their lives. I am sorry but for whatever reason, it is very hard to type properly on this message board.
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Wow. If you are a true person I find you full of crap. I'm for and against the program. What gives you a right to say what's right and wrong. The purpose of the forum is to educate, talk, and gain insight. People are people. They don't need nor do they follow Ginger. Get real. I'm right your wrong. Your world must be difficult. Fact is life is not black and white. I don't know if you have truly read the posts but you'd have found out that the people here are not weak. Timoclea, Niles, Antigen, Deborah, and others are actually some of the most strong minded individuals. You however show weakness in your all-or-nothing-my-way-or-the-highway point of view. Grow up.
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Thanks so much for sharing!!
You're also a codependent enabler, TPalumbo. The big sister? Seems you should be advising your sister to seek help elsewhere, if she didn't find what she was looking for here.
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To the first poster, how can someone be both for and against something? And for the other poster,I am not a co-dependant in any way , shape, or form.I am simply defending my sister and telling people what to do to live a good life.
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On 2005-03-15 14:19:00, TPalumbo wrote:
"To the first poster, how can someone be both for and against something? And for the other poster,I am not a co-dependant in any way , shape, or form.I am simply defending my sister and telling people what to do to live a good life.
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BITE
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Sorry folks, had to do it. :lol:
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Youre defending your sister? Sounds like youre enabeling her behavior. As well as fighting her battles for her. As to your typing abilities, I would simply say this. Perhaps if you werent using a refurbeb Webtv and God loved you a little more than you wouldnt have these problems. As it stands though your sister is a stupid nazi pig, and by defending her you are telling us, you are also a nazi.
As far as us moving on with our lives or not moving on. Since youve been here all of about five mins and dont know any of us, you may want to consider retracting this statement. The fact is the bulk of us on here, are here to inform those looking for information on some of these schools. Now you are free to ask questions if you like, otherwise however you ( and your pig sister as well) should refrain from spouting off anymore of your nazi propoganda. Understand Eva?
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"My sister came here seeking help in a very, very, tough time in her life and you all were not helpful to her in anyway."
I'm not new to this site, I've been reading for the past couple of weeks. If your sister needed help, then she should have done other research than this site.
"Number two- I feel very strongly that all of you who are against all these programs need to let go."
Not everyone reading this site is against programs. I'm for the programs that turn our teenagers around from defiant devils into responsible, respectable adults.
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You've all confirmed it now - the bunch of you are nuts!
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I canno disagree w/ that statement. :wstupid:
It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson
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People of passion and opinion are the people who rule the world.
Republican n. A liberty despising, money worshiping, control freak. Democrat n. A liberty despising, social engineering, control freak.
-- Anonymous
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That's a scary thought.... :???:
Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
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Ginger said not to feed the trolls, but MY GAWD - there are two of them.
This board saved my sanity when my family member was incarcerated in Thayer. Not having any rights to his life, I was desperate to learn anything and everything I could about this snake pit and sadly found out just how naive I was when I uncovered much more than I ever wanted to learn.
Each day, every time I turned over another rock, another snake crawled out.... I found a billion dollar business dealing with the "enslavement of children" - right here in the good ole' USA - (although there are many facilities located outside the USA too) most of them are run by those swell folks up in St. George, Utah!
But I found hope here and so do many other people; so take your vitriolic bile and your rhetoric WWASP thought stream and just go away. We want to be here, I need to be here and it is apparent since you already know everything- there is no need for you to waste your time on this thread.
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Oh, there are more than two. Some are trying to start a brawl or bait people into making actionable, libelous statements. Others are just having fun and providing a little comic relief.
Don't think that you have to respond to every post on here that sets you off. You really don't.
I'm glad that you found something useful here. But please, please understand that this is not intended to be a therapy site or support group. It's wide open to any joker or madman who wants to post whatever. You have to decide what of it to belive, who to trust, etc. And I HIGHLY recomend doing some checking outside of just this forum before you trust ANYbody around here w/ any priviledged information. Everybody's lost just waiting to be found. Everyone's a thought just waiting to fade.
-- Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins
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These trolls are hilarious! BSorry ass now has a "sister" that posts here? Too funny.
Can someone actually buy a "refurbished web TV" ? Where would they be sold?
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You can find loads full on Ebay and other auction sites. They are very popular with the low class.I compare it to Medicaid. If someone is desperate for health insurance but can not afford it, they get Medicaid.If someone is desperate for internet access, they buy Refurbished WebTV's.Me? I will stick with my $3000 Media Center PC.
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God helps those who help themselves. Take marriage seriously. Once the Wedding Ring goes on the finger, it stays on the finger.[ This Message was edited by: BSarro on 2005-03-17 08:44 ]
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I hear Ginger is gonna offer Refurbished WebTV's as a free gift for her Fornits customers.
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"If someone is desperate for health insurance but can not afford it, they get Medicaid."
You truly are ignorant about many things lady. No one gets Medicaid unless they are way below the poverty line. That means absolutely destitute with NO assests. Can't even have a car worth more than $5000. Educate yourself before you spout out such ignorance.
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On 2005-03-17 07:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"These trolls are hilarious! BSorry ass now has a "sister" that posts here? Too funny.
Can someone actually buy a "refurbished web TV" ? Where would they be sold?"
Who knows what Sarro's obsession with WebTVs is. It is pretty comical though, in a pathetic sort of way. Are we supposed to be impressed by the $3000 computer? :roll: :roll:
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My neighbor has a $30,000 vehicle. It's dead in his driveway. This morning I gave him a ride to town in my $300 beater truck.
If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race?
--Frederic Bastiat -- 1801-1850
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In my state it's $4000 in cask and assets. Just a few years ago if you had more than $2000 in assets you could not qualify.
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That is what I meant by not able to afford health insurance. You just put it into different terms.
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Not to change the subject, but I too, came to this site after my precious granddaughter was sent to a BM facility. Fornits has been a great comfort to me, eventhough the information I have found here has been nothing short of horrifying. My granddaughter is barely 15, and will probably be incarcerated until she is 18, unless things change drastically. Anyhow, I get sick of the trolls too, although some of them are pretty funny, in a morbid sort of way.
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Granny19, Why is your daughter in a program? Why are you so convinced your daughter does not need a program?
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Read up investigator. It's her granddaughter. Sometimes the answer to your question is simply, because a child's place is with their family. Those who have, or should have, a vested interest in their child.
Isolation and punishment has never 'cured' anyone of anything. And if you think it's not punishment to be ripped from one's family, I'd say you need some sensivity training. But then, if any group of advocates kidnapped you and held you incommunicado for a couple of years they'd face jail time. Hmmm. Wonder why that might be? The fact that some parents are willing to abdicate responsibility in such as way, does not make it right or the most desirable option for struggling 'families'.
Gramma's often know what's best. We been there, done that.
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I notice that TPalumbo just became a member on 3-15-05. You are most likely a troll for one of the programs, searching for adverse information about your particular jailhouse. I am even quite sure I know which hellhole you represent. Forget gleaning any information from me, you would only use it to torture some poor child.
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You are throwing outrageous allegations out there Granny19. I told everyone in my original post that I came here to defend my sister and to tell people how to live a good life.I do not represent any program. Me and my sister are dedicated to providing UNBIASED advice to those who seek it on this forum.
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I am right. You are wrong. Plain and simple.[ This Message was edited by: TPalumbo on 2005-03-17 14:19 ]
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Now you have met the rest of me crazy family they are as messed up as me! Think there is a program out there that will take the whole family? My crazy brother out there needs help too as you can see.
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On 2005-03-17 14:41:00, BSarr0 wrote:
"Now you have met the rest of me crazy family they are as messed up as me! Think there is a program out there that will take the whole family? My crazy brother out there needs help too as you can see."
There's a place for inbreeders like your family, it's called the state of West Virgina. I bet you can even bring your refurbished web TVs as well.
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My folks are from west virginia, and I'm on a mental level far above any of you trolls will even be able to look at.
I live in North Carolina NOW, if you want to see more stereotypes get smashed to pieces. Oh, but I do have a camaro... but becuase its economical. *GASP* YOU SAID WHAT? Oh yeah... I can get insane performance out of it for almost nothing. Imagine that, I actually know economics.
And my computer is built from spare parts. I bet this isnt holyroller enough for you :grin:A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace.
James Madison, The Federalist No. 46
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Am I the only person who finds the title of this thread ironic given that we're talking about places and people that abuse and neglect children?
o/~ Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste....
...Pleased to meet you!
Hope you guess my name!
But what's puzzling you is the
nature of my game.... o/~
Incredibly ironic. But I suppose program advocates never listen to that song because the group name "Rolling Stones" is a drug reference. How many levels do you think they'd have to bust themselves just for reading this post?
Do you figure any of the program owners would have the courage of their convictions to bust themselves back to "Investment" and work up the "Levels" until they "Graduated" all over again?
Some pigs are more equal than others.
Timoclea
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No kidding! :rofl:
Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1500 years.
--John Adams, U.S. President
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On 2005-03-17 14:02:00, granny19 wrote:
"I notice that TPalumbo just became a member on 3-15-05. You are most likely a troll for one of the programs, searching for adverse information about your particular jailhouse. I am even quite sure I know which hellhole you represent. Forget gleaning any information from me, you would only use it to torture some poor child."
TPalumbo sounds an awful lot like BSarro. They're even from the same area and have similar signatures, stating the town and state, which both happen to be in NY and on LI.
Now, being a New Yorker, I know that only Long Islanders would actually admit to being Long Islanders, so it seems they are either one in the same or one another's sycophant. Either way, they're both obtuse, uneducated dolts.
Carefully heed their advice and your kids will be as fucked up as theirs...
OK, reading thru the thread I see they are sisters. I guess THEIR parents screwed up really bad raising them, too. I mean, what good parents raise two kids like these holy-rolling morons?
BSarro's poor daughter has two generations of fuck-ups to overcome. That's a tough task for a little girl.
I guess if she fails, she'll turn into a fat, Italian Catholic princess from Long Island with bad hair, bad skin, a big mouth, a lot of makeup and a brain scrambled from inhaling too much hairspray. Family reunions must be FUN in that house. Geez.[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-03-19 12:20 ]
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I take issue with the above post assuming that my sister also is having problems with her daughter. Her daughter is happily married. It is no one's fault but my daughter's that she is a deeply disturbed teen. If I have no choice but to send her to Tranquility Bay or another program, it will be her doing. No one else will be responsible.My sister HAS been there for me in this tragic situation. You people on this message board HAVE NOT.
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On 2005-03-19 18:50:00, BSarro wrote:
"I take issue with the above post assuming that my sister also is having problems with her daughter. Her daughter is happily married. It is no one's fault but my daughter's that she is a deeply disturbed teen. If I have no choice but to send her to Tranquility Bay or another program, it will be her doing. No one else will be responsible.My sister HAS been there for me in this tragic situation. You people on this message board HAVE NOT.
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Of course. You're absolutely right. Parents have no responsibility for raising their kids. How could I have not known this?
For someone who has all the answers, you seem to spend an awful ot of time trolling this forum.
Bitch, moan, blame. Bitch, moan, blame. Yada yada yada.
Lady, you've got more issues than a fucking magazine rack.
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as in Da Ville?