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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 05, 2005, 12:33:00 AM
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http://www.belleviewvalleynursinghome.com (http://www.belleviewvalleynursinghome.com)
This is the website of a nursing home in Missouri. They have a secure wing complete with magnetic door locks and kepads to keep them in even! I am voting we put all the program parents in here and see how they like being locked up...
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u need some pussy man
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Here's a nice pick.
http://www.lsfnet.org/news/news.asp?itemid=182 (http://www.lsfnet.org/news/news.asp?itemid=182)
Lutheran Services spokeswoman, Joy Margolis, used to be Straight's spokeswoman. And she was the point person for media contacts and PR when a young man hung himself and was left dangling from the belt tied to his bunk because the untrained, but ever so pious, staff didn't know enought to cut him down and call 911. Instead, they snapped a few poloroids and screwed around for half an our or so.
Lutheran Services also runs some retirement/assisted living homes.
Yes, this would be my first pick for warehouseing frail and aging members Straight parents group.
Black markets will always be with us. But they will recede in importance when our public morality is consistent with our private one.
Eric Schlosser, Reefer Madness
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I used to tell my parents that when they got old that I would lock them away in an old folks home where they couldn't do anything for themselves. I think that the older that they get, the more they think about it too. I am the oldest child and they live 5 miles away from me. When they get elderly it will be up to me to do the caretaking. I think that somewhere in the back of their minds, they still hear the words that I once told them. The reason that I say this is because my parents have told me that if they need to be put in a home, they want to choose the home. I just looked at them with an innocent smile and said "we'll see".
I just thought that I would add that...lol
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Just remember - "what comes around, goes around." You're kids will be watching you - and how you treat your parents.
It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases
--Schiller (1759-1805)
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Seriously? That's a bit extreme. Even if you were joking. Whatever, I think the whole idea itself is rediculous.
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I was obviously joking. I couldn't live with myself if I was to do that to them. I don't mind making them think about it and wonder. But as far as actually doing something like that, nah.
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I remember after I turned 18 and I knew my mother couldn't send me back I promised her the exact same amount of days in an old folks home as I spent in my facility. I also told her I would drop her off and not speak to her until she "earned it." Oh don't forget any and all talk of her facility will be positive. Any allegations of mistreatment will be seen as manipulation and promptly reported to staff members.
Anonymous why is this thread so horrible to you? Is this type of treatment only OK for teenagers? Because while most of this is obviously a joke many of us lived through this type of treatment.
The Graduate
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::noway::
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Perri, it's about empathy. Part of the reason many of us post here is to try to encourage parents to maintain a certain amount of empathy for their teens in a time of life when growing humans are naturally just pains in the butt.
Old age is a good comparison and empathy-trigger because we become dependent again and with all our growing aches and pains and fears we become pains in the butt.
Some of this issue revolves around how you treat family members when they're going through stages of life where they can't help being really difficult to be around. It's a philosophical kind of question, and one of the things this issue triggers parents to consider is how would (will) they want to be treated when *they* are dependent and frequently frustrating, dependent, financially draining, and annoying.
We're all unpleasant and burdensome at some stages in our lives. If you want your family to be close knit and be there for you, you have to set an example and uphold or establish that tradition by being there for them.
I think one of the key questions in placing a child for residential care is whether you're placing them for their good because they're an active danger to themselves or others, or whether you're rationalizing and really placing them for *your* good because they're real pains in the butt and you "shouldn't have to live like this."
That latter rationalization is why seniors often end up in nursing homes.
It comes down to the personal choice of how tightly knit you want your family to be. Nobody can make that choice for you, but if you choose less instead of more, then you can expect to be treated more or less like you treated others.
It's a real lifestyle sacrifice to care for the seniors in your family instead of delegating that care. It's a real lifestyle sacrifice to help them stay functional at home for as long as possible.
A survivor of a less-than-necessary stay in an RTC, looking back and assessing that necessity with the full experience of parenthood themselves, may not decide to place a parent for revenge---but are they *really* going to put themselves out and sacrifice more of their personal lives to keep their parents out as long as possible?
They *might* out of love and forgiveness, especially if the parent has worked hard to rebuild ties and trust, but they certainly don't *owe* it to their parents.
Do you think Ginger would move her mother into her house if the mother that hasn't spoken to her in years had a stroke? Maybe, maybe not. I certainly don't think she *owes* it to her mom since her mom has been purposefully estranged for all these years. I *don't* think she'd ever in the world choose a bad place on purpose.
But the bottom line of empathy is to picture yourself in the other guy's shoes and treat him the way you would want him to treat you if your positions were reversed.
And if invoking empathy gets through to even one parent and gets them to parent better rather than worse, I'm all for it.
Timoclea
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I've actually had to think about it. When my dad got sick and died, all of my brothers and sisters were involved. Some of that was very nice, some was really not. But nothing I could do but try and spend time w/ him and honor his wishes as best I could.
Immediately afterward, my mom had "heart palpitations" and checked herself into the hospital. My sister, the nurse, went down to look after her, even though she'd spent all of her vacation and sick leave and called in all her favors to take care of my dad.
While she was there, she called to see if I wanted to have anything to do w/ making care decisions for my mom. It was a thoughtful geture, thoush she knew I really didn't. I told here to call me back when the old lady needed a nursing home and I'd pick out a real good one. No explanation needed, she laughed.
Seriously, though. If my mother were all alone in the world and it fell to me to take care of her, I wouldn't go out of my way to spend time w/ her. She doesn't like me anyway. But I would at least make sure she were not severely abused. That's all I can muster, sorry, it really is. Thankfully, she has lots of family that she treats better than me and so it's very unlikely that I'll ever have to have anything to do w/ her again.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin
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Naturally T. All within reason and humanity. Revenge is not something I would personally carry out. I may think about it but in the end an eye for an eye is childish in my mind.
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Hey stupid, its called a lock down alzheimers ward for the safety of that patient and trust me, people do not like seeing their loved ones going through alzheimers, and someitmes they must be proctected from themselves and their own thoughts or lack there of.
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Don't loose your sense of humor folks:
I have a little plague in my house:
"Be kind to your children, remember they pick your nursing home."
Also have one that reads:
"I'm just a Raggedy Ann living in a Barbie World"
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On 2005-10-06 10:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Don't loose your sense of humor folks:
I have a little plague in my house:
"Be kind to your children, remember they pick your nursing home."
Also have one that reads:
"I'm just a Raggedy Ann living in a Barbie World"
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Hmmm. If you have a little plague in your house, have I got a program for you!!!!
:rofl:
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The only merciful alternative for not locking them away.
Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.
--Carl Schurz, German-born U.S. general and U.S. senator