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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: mandyelan3 on February 01, 2005, 10:24:00 PM

Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: mandyelan3 on February 01, 2005, 10:24:00 PM: There are still so many people I can not find. If anyone has heard from or heard stories about.... Sandy Grabluski(spelling could be off), Myra Scott, Madeline Ortiz, Jayson R., Mike Tenebaum, Mike Singer, Steph Jones, Michelle ahhhh so many people. This list could go on forever.....
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: MarenD on February 02, 2005, 02:53:00 AM: Was madeline ortiz Jeff's sister?
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Chrysta on February 02, 2005, 08:37:00 AM: no....2 differnt houses if you are talking about Jeff Ortiz from E8
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Anonymous on February 02, 2005, 08:49:00 AM: Yeah I kknow its 2 diff houses. but I have seen many siblings go through elan. We use to get Jeff oritz's mail and Marc Rosenburg read it to us. It was sad. He was writing from death row. or so we were told.
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Chrysta on February 02, 2005, 09:59:00 AM: What you were told is partially correct. He is in jjail for the rest of his life for killing his mother, but not on death row
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Chrysta on February 02, 2005, 10:01:00 AM: If you are talking about the same Jeff that I am, Madeline was not his sister. He has an older sister, she must be in her early 30s now. She was a model at one point, but not for Elan.
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: O.U.2 on February 02, 2005, 05:17:00 PM: Did he ever admit that he did it? did he do it alone?
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: MarenD on February 04, 2005, 05:00:00 AM: I remeber Marc reading Jeff's letter. I think almost everyone was crying because he seemed so remourseful. But I don't know if I can actually trust that the letter wasn't doctored a bit. By the way I saw a guest book sign on ken's site by Jackie Kerbal. Is she Mitchels sister? She was sooo young and innocent when I had seen her when mitch went on visits and stuff. Such a cute kid. I was wondering if she deserved to be at Elan or if the dad just liked getting rid of his kids for a few years. That sounded bitchy I guess. Not intending too.
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2005, 01:06:00 PM: jackie was mitchel's sister, a VERY different situation than mitchel. no, her dad did not want to send her at all, but she had a lot of problems
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Chrysta on February 04, 2005, 06:17:00 PM: No, Jeff never admitted to it, in fact, he just appealed it. His story use to be that his mother's boyfriend did it. I don't know if thats the story he still uses. He was alone, from what the facts state. I think he must have been wacked out on drugs.As far as the letter goes, he was a great manipulator.
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: MarenD on February 05, 2005, 04:26:00 AM: Jeff admitted it in the letter Marc read to the house. Like I said "hmmmm...doctored?"
Title: Has anyone heard?
Post by: Chrysta on February 05, 2005, 12:39:00 PM: I would venture to say....absolutely doctored. He never admitted it to me!