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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Cayo Hueso on January 28, 2005, 07:34:00 PM
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Don't feel left out Ginger....look again.
Niggerspicchinkhebekrautdagofroglimeyfaggotgreaserjapgookredskinmickginclog
I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole
--Malcolm X
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Oh, my mistake. Never mind. I'll buy the next round.
If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the
government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.
--President Bill Clinton
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Now let's drink to the Irish,
The race that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry,
And all their songs are sad.May your days be joyfully challenging and your words artfully true
-- Ginger Warbis SMA, `00
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On 2005-01-28 16:42:00, Antigen wrote:
"Oh, my mistake. Never mind. I'll buy the next round.If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the
government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.
--President Bill Clinton
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Didn't mean to ruin a perfectly good rant though!!! :tup: Come in the evening, or come in the morning; Come when you 're looked for, or come without warning.
-- Thomas O. Davis (1814-1845): The Welcome.
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Brazil Nuts.
Did you know that black people call Brazil Nuts "Nigger Toes" just like white people do?Its true.
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Ha! I once offended a black person by using the word "hooligan". He assumed it was a new slur for blackfolk.
I had to explain that it actually applied to folk of my ethnic heritage.I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.
--Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist
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Wow, how did we go from a memorial service for our friends that suffered , some of whom died to backbitting , name calling, and racial slurs.
Are you all really still in group?
I did like one point someone made "How are we to impress upon the public our message if we cant even talk amoungst ourselves" Very good point.
I am in shock someone offers a memorial service to honor our friends and it turns into this. In my humble opinion, I wonder what they would say, I wonder how they would feel about this? I wonder if we are all really just wrapped up in our abuse or if we really do care about what happened to the person in the chair next to us.
Have no fear, the memorial service will be done in a professional manner, one that I think would make those no longer here , feel cared about and remembered.
I really like the idea of the chairs. I think thats better than the coffin the empty chair with a name.
So, for those of you who care about what happened to the person next to you, who wish to honor those that paid the ultimate price, who want to remember them and band together and in some small way and let the world know their death was not in vain , by all means join us.
For those of you that wish to continue to tear each other apart, to hurt the person next to you with words well maybe it just isnt your thing and thats ok.
I look forward to getting together. I think, not sure after this.
Straights Biggest and most effective weapon and tactic was and ALWAYS has been to set one against the other, to give brownie points, to those who confront, emotionally destroy or physically abuse the one next to them so they can ask for 2nd or 3rd phase.
Are you all who are YEARS out of the program really still falling for that. It tears at the rest of us to see you all do this to each other AGAIN!!!
Just a thought
No Longer In Group
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On 2005-01-28 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
No Longer In Group
GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
Just kidding...
I think we all quit infighting and started kidding around about 2 pages ago.
More'n one way to stop a brawl. science is the record of dead religions.
--Oscar Wilde
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On 2005-01-28 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Wow, how did we go from a memorial service for our friends that suffered , some of whom died to backbitting , name calling, and racial slurs.
Are you all really still in group?
I did like one point someone made "How are we to impress upon the public our message if we cant even talk amoungst ourselves" Very good point.
I am in shock someone offers a memorial service to honor our friends and it turns into this. In my humble opinion, I wonder what they would say, I wonder how they would feel about this? I wonder if we are all really just wrapped up in our abuse or if we really do care about what happened to the person in the chair next to us.
Have no fear, the memorial service will be done in a professional manner, one that I think would make those no longer here , feel cared about and remembered.
I really like the idea of the chairs. I think thats better than the coffin the empty chair with a name.
So, for those of you who care about what happened to the person next to you, who wish to honor those that paid the ultimate price, who want to remember them and band together and in some small way and let the world know their death was not in vain , by all means join us.
For those of you that wish to continue to tear each other apart, to hurt the person next to you with words well maybe it just isnt your thing and thats ok.
I look forward to getting together. I think, not sure after this.
Straights Biggest and most effective weapon and tactic was and ALWAYS has been to set one against the other, to give brownie points, to those who confront, emotionally destroy or physically abuse the one next to them so they can ask for 2nd or 3rd phase.
Are you all who are YEARS out of the program really still falling for that. It tears at the rest of us to see you all do this to each other AGAIN!!!
Just a thought
No Longer In Group"
Finally someone who is making sense! The same people who cry abuse seem to be the same one's that enjoy abusing others. Seems to make their case invalid. Not saying that it is invalid, but why should anyone care about their abuse when they seem to enjoy being abusive to other abused / oppresed groups?
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On 2005-01-28 16:42:00, Antigen wrote:
"Oh, my mistake. Never mind. I'll buy the next round.If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the
government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.
--President Bill Clinton
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And in case you didn't know "clogs" is a slur on the Dutch, and "Gin" is a slur on aborigines. And again, I apologize to anyone I left out. Where we going to drink, Ginger?
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"Mean and hateful since 1982"
Your sponsor says it's OK for you to drink
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Stay away, 12-Stepper, your lies are not welcome here....
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On 2005-01-28 20:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
Not saying that it is invalid, but why should anyone care about their abuse when they seem to enjoy being abusive to other abused / oppresed groups?
It's really complicated. We must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around.
Frank Serpico
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On 2005-01-28 20:21:00, RTP2003 wrote:
Where we going to drink, Ginger?
I dunno. I have a bar in my basement, but it's not heated so it'll have to be in the Spring.
It only takes a little prescience to understand that we're all fair game for the deeds we condone.
--Antigen
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Abusing "people".You are not people,you are a computer screen.This is not your private email!Nobody can possibly abuse you here.
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Did you guys not take the cue? Good natured cutting up has kicked in!
What would the departed want? I would think they would want to know that in spite of all the shit, that we're able to laugh once in a while, even about those things that once caused so much pain.
Hope you guys don't mind me crashing in. I'll buy the next round! :smile:
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There was a guy from the LIFE program that got out and crashed his motorcycle (on Constitution Blvd,Sarasota)while trying to open a bag of potato chips,and had enough cocaine in his system to "kill an elephant",or so Miss ("Miss",thats wishful thinking on her part.) Pete told us.
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On 2005-01-28 16:30:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-01-28 14:45:00, RTP2003 wrote:
Niggerspicchinkhebekrautdagofroglimeyfaggotgreaserjapgookredskinmickginclog---sorry if I left any of you out....
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Sorry my ass! What about us mics?
Hey!! Doesn't the "Mc" part of your maiden name make you Scottish, not Irish??? :smile: What is the slang for Scotsmen? Crazy fuckers?? (I'm Scottish on my dad's side and he's definitely nuts!! :wink: )I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father and inventor
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>Hey!! Doesn't the "Mc" part of your maiden name make you Scottish, not Irish??? :smile: What is the slang for Scotsmen? Crazy fuckers?? (I'm Scottish on my dad's side and he's definitely nuts!! :grin:
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On 2005-01-30 07:12:00, ~-=Sara=-~ wrote:
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>Hey!! Doesn't the "Mc" part of your maiden name make you Scottish, not Irish??? :scared: :lol: :lol: It's an incredible con job when you think of it, to believe something now in exchange for life after death. Even corporations with all their reward systems don't try to make it posthumous.
--Gloria Steinam, women's rights activist
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On 2005-01-30 07:20:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:
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On 2005-01-30 07:12:00, ~-=Sara=-~ wrote:
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>Hey!! Doesn't the "Mc" part of your maiden name make you Scottish, not Irish??? :scared: :lol: :lol:
Come to the Dark Side, Cayohuesa....that's right...I AM your Father.....come to the Dark Side...
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Come to the Dark Side, Cayohuesa....that's right...I AM your Father.....come to the Dark Side...
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Oh look... it's time to play "name that troll"
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh... too easy! :grin:
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On 2005-01-30 16:00:00, Dr. Miller Newton wrote:
Come to the Dark Side, Cayohuesa....that's right...I AM your Father.....come to the Dark Side...
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Stop. You're scaring me. Seriousy dude stop. You're freaking me out man. :scared: :scared:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: The only voluntary urine sample they'll get from me is a taste test
--Bumper Sticker
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me Scotch AND Irish. normal status of mindus: drunkus. kooked out, wacked out, freaked out. it's a party on good days, a war on others.
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I am not a "survivor" of Straight, but yes I was "invited" when my sister was put there.
"Just a visit! It's so important to us!" I said OK, received a plane ticket, but became very uneasy. There was this news story, about an MIT student, who went for a "visit"...
I "missed" the flight.
My sister was terminated after a few months. She was later diagnosed as schizophrenic.
She is still alive, but not really able to function well. Seems stuck at a very unhappy 13.
I have considered telling her about this forum, but she is so fragile, I do not think bringing back the thoughts would be helpful.
So I am here for her, by proxy.To be an atheist requires strength of mind and goodness of heart found in not one of a thousand.
--Samuel Taylor Coleridge, English poet, critic, journalist, philosopher
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Wow, I'm glad you missed the plane. I am sorry to hear about your sister. Welcome.
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On 2005-01-31 17:49:00, Pietra wrote:
"me Scotch AND Irish. normal status of mindus: drunkus. kooked out, wacked out, freaked out. it's a party on good days, a war on others."
I'm Scot and Indian. I forget what today is - drink or war? :rofl:
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On 2005-01-31 18:13:00, Erinys wrote:
"I am not a "survivor" of Straight, but yes I was "invited" when my sister was put there.
"Just a visit! It's so important to us!" I said OK, received a plane ticket, but became very uneasy. There was this news story, about an MIT student, who went for a "visit"...
I "missed" the flight.
My sister was terminated after a few months. She was later diagnosed as schizophrenic.
She is still alive, but not really able to function well. Seems stuck at a very unhappy 13.
I have considered telling her about this forum, but she is so fragile, I do not think bringing back the thoughts would be helpful.
So I am here for her, by proxy.To be an atheist requires strength of mind and goodness of heart found in not one of a thousand.
--Samuel Taylor Coleridge, English poet, critic, journalist, philosopher
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Wow. I'm so sorry to hear about your sister. I'm glad you missed that plane too though.
It's good that you can maybe filter some of this for her. I wouldn't dream of trying to give any kind of advice as far as these fora go, I have no experience with that kind of an illness. I can tell you though that it was a little overwhelming for me at first. I had to come and go because at first it really brought out some strong reactions. I had no idea the depth of all of this and it really made my head spin for a while. I don't think it's fully stopped yet. :silly: I still have just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. It was difficult to digest it all at once. And as you may have noticed, things can get a little heated here. Many of us can be pretty confrontational at times. It's to a debatable degree a side effect of those places in my opinion.
I hope you can find some answers here or some information that is helpful. I know it can get difficult to wade through the thicket of threads and posts but it's worth the trouble. What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Thanks for the kind words. I don't think there is much I can do to actually help my sister.
I can only try to protect her from further injury.
I think it's possible that her illness would have come to her anyway. But Straight certainly did not help, the ignorant, greedy fucks had ONE diagnosis.
May RAGE and FURIES follow them all the days of their life, and may they dwell in the kennels of Hell forever!
And I remain,
Erinys
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad.
-- Salvador Dali
[ This Message was edited by: Erinys on 2005-02-01 06:22 ]
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On 2005-01-31 18:13:00, Erinys wrote:
I am not a "survivor" of Straight, but yes I was "invited" when my sister was put there.
All three of my older brothers were in The Seed. None of them could do for me what you're doing. Would if they could understand it, I think. But they don't.
You're my hero! After all, who wouldn't prefer Middle Earth, unless they've been corrupted by a Ring of Power?
Jeff Elkins; Tolkien's Libertarian Vision
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And I remain,
Erinys
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad.
-- Salvador Dali
[ This Message was edited by: Erinys on 2005-02-01 06:22 ]"
Thanks Ginger,
By the way, that random (?) quote on my post? Couldn't a researched a more appropriate on me ownself! Random is as random does, I guess.Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't.
-- Anonymous