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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 05, 2005, 09:30:00 AM
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Anyone here been marathoned? It didn't happen to me, but I remember many people being held in 'timeout rooms' for days, weeks and in one case a month. Standing or exercising the entire time. Half a dixie cup of water twice a day, PBJ diet the whole time in there, being sat on for hours on end b/c she wouldn't write an MI etc. etc. etc.
Therapeutic my ASS!!!!!!!!!!
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I remember a girl ate so much peanut butter that she pooped out oil! :cry2:
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I remember people being pulled out of group proper and just sat way in the back of the big group room. Out of group. Someone was always assigned to be aware of them, usually for the entire day. I enjoyed it when I was chosen to do this, because we were given permission to speak freely to each other the whole time. It was nice to be able to just talk to someone all day. I never experienced any violence during these time outs, because I think both myself and whomever I was watching had an unspoken understanding that being out of group was a blessing.
I know there were times when kids were just pinned on the floor for hours in the group room, and lots of restraints happened pretty much daily......but I was never witness to what happened when they took them out into the other rooms for days on end. I guess we all thought they were having their own private misbehaver raps or something.
You should be allowed to do whatever you want with your own person and property, as long as you don't physically harm the person or property of a nonconsenting other.
Peter McWilliams - Ain't Nobody's Business If I Do
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I was in TR only once and only for a couple of hours. Chris Casselor was trying to get me to apologize to Group for having split (we still used the term split back then) But I just kept telling them I couldn't do that because it wouldn't be honest.
Basically, they just shoved me around, yelled at me, poked my chest and tried to piss me off for a couple of hours. Didn't work. I did piss at least one of them off, though. She busted my nose. Still can't recall who did that.Harmlessly passing your time in the grasslands away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
you better watchout,
there may be dogs about.
I've looked over Jordan, and have seen.
Things are not what they seem.
--Roger Waters 1977
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This specific time I'm speaking of was a time when there were countless 'misbehavors'. Group was huge, maybe 350. The regular timeout/intake rooms were full. There were a few rooms directily adjacent to group room, in front and back. Some of the kids were in the rooms in the front so we got to see all damn day what they were doing to this poor girl.
I remember a guy getting marathoned for 3 weeks and watching him get beaten every damn day of it.
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[ This Message was edited by: Ex5k on 2005-06-14 14:19 ]
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I got my ass kicked for about 8-10 hours in an intake room one day. I was sent there by noted child abuser and future San Francisco fellatio merchant William Rollins, then was beaten by a few 5th phasers and staffers, sat-on, had my hair pulled, punched, kicked and spat upon for not complying with their demands that I exercise. I was punched repeatedly while my arms were being held and someone's knee was in my back. I honestly do not know the reason , however ridiculous one would be, why I was sent to the intake room and subjected to this therapeutic technique, as I had been complying during the rap in which William "Sweet Willie" Rollins ordered it to take place. I can only surmise that he
did this out of his great love for me, as part of the Group, and through his wisdom and awareness decided that it was in my best interest.
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I knew "Rusty" :rofl: before I went in Str8. That's what he was called at school. The reason he got off so much on his 'staff status' around there is because he was such a putz in the real world. People at school couldn't stand him, even before he went in there. He LOVED to parade around the bldg. like he was some big shot because he was such an insignificant little shit out in the real world where it counted.
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Does anyone know if he stayed until St. Pete shut down? I heard he now works for the sheriff's department in some capacity. No facts, just what I heard.
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I remember when we got back to the foster home at night the foster mom telling me what a "privledge" it was to "sit in a blue chair". Bitch.
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move to top again
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I remember when we got back to the foster home at night the foster mom telling me what a "privledge" it was to "sit in a blue chair."
But it was a privilege, druggie! Damn it, through motivating, having to sit up bolt upright, and getting jungle rot you learned to appreciate the things that you took for granted with the laxed attitude that you no doubt had in your druggie past. The chairs, etc were character builders that you good-for-nothing druggies sorely needed.
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then provide us with your peer-reviewed scientific research including long-term follow-up studies
and don't come back until you do.
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I'm certainly not going to solicit the opinions of a bunch of eggheads about something that they would not be able to comment with validity on since they are way out of their depth. Have they ever experienced firsthand the horrors of the downward spiral of drug addiction? I doubt that many of them could claim this, don't you? Have these self-proclaimed 'experts' ever known the true joy that occurrs when a kid yells out across the floor of the open meeting room, "Coming home!!!!!" ? Well? Then they are simply not qualified to comment on the quality (or anything else) concerning Straight's method of therapy.
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i'd like to see a follow-up study. how are all your former straightlings doing now? i happen to be alive, but that might just be dumb luck because i could have died. no one took me to see a doctor when i needed one, so i left Straight sicker than i have ever been in my life.
[ This Message was edited by: fka on 2005-06-01 21:30 ]
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no one took me to see a doctor when i needed one, so i left Straight sicker than i have ever been in my life.
For someone who is chemically dependent, using any sort of pain killers as a quick fix can be quite risky. Also, a little faith in God, the 7 Steps, and a drug-free lifestyle can go a long way.
if you are so fucking certain about your methods, why don't you contact ALL the "graduates" and see what happened to them.
There are plenty of "survivors" who not only have no problem with the program's methods, but who are also very grateful for the treatment that they received while at Straight Incorporated.
The only person who sees me buck naked is my loving wife Ruthie, God bless her.
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I was never "marathoned". Wasn't dumb enough to get into a position like that - even as a teenager. :lol:
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On 2005-02-25 20:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
" I was never "marathoned". Wasn't dumb enough to get into a position like that - even as a teenager. :lol: "
If you willingly treated your peers as prisoners, than you are weak. Fucking sheeple; just line 'em up and fire pyre. I still must say that Straight has saved my life. Pure detatchment. Savage attacks. The will to keep fighting; at all cost. Starvation, filth, etc.
Anon: You are the sand that clumps on the beach, I'm the shark that senses blood. Jason[ This Message was edited by: misbehaver on 2005-02-25 23:08 ]
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On 2005-02-25 20:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
" I was never "marathoned". Wasn't dumb enough to get into a position like that - even as a teenager. :lol: "
Or maybe you were too dumb to see anything worth fighting for. For most of my time, so was I. I regret that a whole bitch of a lot more than the few days I got my ass kicked.The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive.
--Thomas Sowell
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On 2005-02-25 23:11:00, Antigen wrote:
"I regret that a whole bitch of a lot more than the few days I got my ass kicked."
fuck yeah
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How asinine it is that anyone had any regrets whatsoever about helping other members of their beloved group get straight.