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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 24, 2004, 06:33:00 AM
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This is Matt Shakespeare... Student/Staff... You guys have a lot of shit to say, particularly Marina... And I have to say, it's funny how you talk so much shit, but you never really mention the things about yourself... For example, Marina... If I remember correctly, you were ridiculous... And you deserved every GM, VR, LE you ever got... And I remember your graduation speech... And all the shit you said... I'm glad that your life is together and that you are doing well, but, someone in your position should watch the shit they talk...
To anyone else... If you were a student with me, or a student when I was a staff... I'm here... I'll debate with any of you... Say your piece...
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Matt go die! and get away from this board. NO ONE FUCKING WANTS YOU HERE! Just fucking die seriously you idiotic scum. Everyone fucking hates you! ewwww.......my skin is crawling
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Haha... I forgot, this is the I failed at Elan site... I couldn't hack it and look within myself, because there was too much fucked up shit... Sorry...
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matt when were you a student? and a staff? which houses?
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Greg,That was a nice refreshing post. I am happy for you and glad to see you have such a positive attitude. CT
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i was a student from 98-00... and staff from 02-04... i'm not saying that things should be forgotten, however, if you have something to say, then do it in a way that's productive, and not so general... yes, there was some shit that happened, and nothing will make any of it right, however, things change, and people need to move on and change along with it... i have no ill will towards anyone, and i'm very grateful for elan, but that does not mean that i agreed with everything there as a student or a staff...
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I remember Matt, although I may have butted heads with him a few times, he did his best as a staff. He was not trying to mess with anyone, and to Brian's mom, all of the staff there are very overworked. I assume Matt was not intentionally not calling you, he was one of the busiest staff. As I said before, I was certainly not a fan of Matt, though I was pretty much not open to most of the former E-7 staff (I was in E-8) but Matt worked very hard, he was always coming in on his day off because he really cared. Honestly, he is the only staff to answer you guys on this board.
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how many students did i beat? none...
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different time...I just wish there were 2 seperate forums, because I dont get most of it now. Elan is a decent place, despite what the whiners think and choose to say......I think Elan of the 70s and 80s are different than those who experienced elan of the 90s and 00s.
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matt, you picked the wrong side of the fence. admit you were wrong to yourself and move on, don't defend any of that bullshit and don't argue with the wastes of O2.
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wrong side of the fence? you guys can judge me all you want for working at elan... but my agenda and elan's agenda were two totally different things at times... so, know me before you judge me on something as superficial as where i chose to work...
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As much as I disliked how I was ignored by Matt, I will stand up for him and say he did not abuse kids!
He has his faults, but that was not one of them.
He abused parents by refusing to return phone calls, even after numerous complaints. Irresponsible; yes, Abuser; NO........CT
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Can we just lay off Matt`s dick for a monet? (Excuse my French again) I usually don`t go into other peoples bantering `n what not, but since I have a relationship with him, this is what I have to say.
Matt can be pretty damn egotistical `n just plain weird. But when he came to visit then start working for us, it was the shit. Because he was a student there, he knew the bullshit we put up with `n it made it easier for a lot of us to go out to him. And for those who remember new staff coming in, they were shit on. He pulled over nights `n would be staff the next day for us. He still gave his all when he was tired.
On the weekends, believe you me, we all prayed Matt would be working, because we`d have some fun. He always helped the Coordinators along with the house so we could get 2 movies in `n go to sleep; if `n ONLY IF we gave our all in return. Shit, we ran around the house like lunatics because we knew he`d keep his end `n most of the time we did our best.
He was one of the few staff who visited me when I was in the corner. He put back a bit of sanity in me when I was in there because he`d make me laugh again. And although he can be pompous sometimes, I respect his insight `n intelligence `n always listened (`n don`t say I never did fucker :razz:)
Overall, there`s always going to be people in our lives we dislike `n possibly hold a grudge against them. We`re only humans right? But degrading `n being immature about people is infantile as fuck. Why waste your time? Vent all you want, but how is that going to change what happened to you personally? So if you`re going to judge someone, think twice, because as people have always told me "You`re quick to point others faults because you do the same thing." We`re all hypocrites in some way, but we don`t need to hurt someone intentionally about it.
Oh, `n Matt.. .Stop stooping to their level `n letting this get to your head.
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i agree with you... the whining i'm talking about is more so those that were there for me when i was staff, and for me when i was as student, because there wasn't any abuse at that point... i don't know and don't care to speculate on what happened in the 70-80's... but what i'm talking about is a time period far after that one... so, to the 70-80's, what i say has nothing to do with you...
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art... i too left elan... for somewhat of the same reasons as you probably...
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hey Matt, how the hell are you doing? I haven't heard much except they fired you for something or other. you and Dave McVetty were the only staff who were in any miniscule way helpful. :tup: and Kim, nice lady. Tania and Pete can burn in hell, and will. :tup:
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hehe... i didn't get fired... i resigned... who are you mister pink?
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I said that I fired him because I waited over 3 weeks for a phone call to be returned, even though I would call 3X each week to speak to him.
Out of total aggrevation, I called and asked to have a new contact person.
I was told that that was not done. In turn, I told them I refused to speak to him again. They wanted me to iron it out. I was too angry.
I told them "I" was firing him and wanted nothing to do with him. Also, after you complain about someone, you never know how it may reflect on your kid.(I am NOT accusing Matt of this, I was just protecting my kid.)
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matt u probably hate me but as everyone knows im marinas worst fan lol if shes running her mouth it shows that elan did jack shit for her hope your doing well..... stefanie
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Hey matt... its greg m... look to all u fucks out there matty shakes was a good fuckin dude. he probally was more real than any of the other staff i can think of and really did try his best to help people out- i dont care if he worked for elan or not... he is a decent guy and u all are bunch of immature pricks who have nothing worthwhile to do with your time than insult someone you dont even know. matt- those were some funny groups bro :wink: im me at gmelik71318
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im giving matt his props how many of us actually would go back and work there u know matt i give u props when did u start working there and wtf happeend? how has elan changed
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And i'm gonna give some mad props to the Sir John Vanbrugh, who was an English architect and dramatist, best known as the designer of Blenheim Palace. He wrote two argumentative and outspoken Restoration comedies, The Relapse (1696) and The Provoked Wife (1697), which have become enduring stage favourites but originally occasioned much controversy. Vanbrugh was in many senses a radical throughout his life. As a young man and a committed Whig, he was part of the scheme to overthrow James II, put William III on the throne and protect English parliamentary democracy, dangerous undertakings which landed him in the dreaded Bastille of Paris as a political prisoner. In his career as a playwright, he offended many sections of Restoration and 18th-century society, not only by the sexual explicitness of his plays, but by their messages in defence of women's rights in marriage. His architectural work was as bold and daring as his early political activism and his marriage-themed plays, and jarred conservative opinions on the subject. Plus he was a real hard core O.G. yo.
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GODDDDDDDD THERE IS SO MUCH I HAVE WANTED TO SAY TO YOU, AND I AM SO RELIEVED I HAVE THE OPPERTUNITY TO NOW. MATT I HATE YOU, YOU CORRUPT FUCK....OHHH AND YOU WANT TO SAY YOU DIDN'T GET FIRED.... YOU SURE DID ASSHOLE...I SPOKE TO A STAFF OF VERY HIGH POWER AND THEY TOLD ME EVERYTHING, THOUGH OUT OF RESPECT FOR THEM I WILL NOT DROP THEIR NAME. DIDN'T ELAN TEACH YOU ATLEAST NOT TO LIE AND TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MISTAKES YOU FUCKING DICK. GOD DAMN DOUBLE STANDARD. MAN, I HATE YOU, YOU FUCKED WITH PEOPLE, AND NOT TO MENTION THE GUILT YOU GOT INTO WITH THE STUDENTS...GIVING ALI AN UNEDITED CD FOR HER BIRTHDAY..GOOD ONE!!! OH BY THE WAY IN CASE YOUR WONDERING WHO THIS IS...ITS SAM GOLDSTEIN, AND NOW ITS MY TURN TO GET REVENGE ON YOU MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
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sam shut your dumb ass up. there are plenty more people that hate you than matt...you vendictive little immature bitch. if you got a problem with matt take it to him and dont post that waste of space on this website.
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Hehe, wow... Sam Goldstein... That's kinda sad that you would have to take the time to say all that you said... Although, you know very little of what you are talking about... More importantly, don't cry because I was hard on you...
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Sam - read the post about how big of a cunt you are.
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You don't have to go call her a cunt... Sam was alright... I made some mistakes as a staff, looked at things differently, did things my way... I did what I thought I had to do in order to help people... If that meant walking thin lines in order to establish trust and repor, than I did that... And it might have been frowned upon, but I was there to help people... I wasn't there to sugar coat things, I wasn't worried about politics or business... I was worried about people... And if Sam can't handle me telling her how it was, then that is her problem... But, it doesn't make her a cunt, and it doesn't make me any less wrong for the things that I at the time, felt were right, for my own reasons...
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Sam, still the same old self-righteous whore you always were. But seriously now, how the fuck are you even still alive, and why didn't your pimp strangle you yet?
Get the fuck off your soapbox, the *compassion* matt showed in that environment speaks highly of him, even though it does not excuse his idiocy for working in said environment. Sure as hell more than you ever did, you were all that and double.
You still use phrases like "CORRUPT", and "DROP THEIR NAME". You type like its a fucking encounter group. Maybe you should bring up for your papers and leave elan before you criticize so much.
Shit, almost forgot. Everyone at the elan reunion said to tell you are a stupid, stupid whore.
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so much so, I forgot to sign in :wave:
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SAMANTHA GOLDSTIEN SHOULD ROT IN HELL WITH HER X-TRA WIDE PUSS THAT NO ONE BUT HER BROTHER AND FATHER WILL TOUCH!!! OF ALL THE SELF-RIGHTOUS, UGLY, FAT, FAKE, WHORES THAT I HAVE EVER MET IN THE WORLD, SHE IS THE WORST!!! I WOULD RATHER LET MY CHILDREN GROW UP WITH MICHAEL JACKSON BEING THEIR "SPECIAL UNCLE" THAN MEET YOU....YOU WRETCHED SLUT! ......go spit on your mother some more. ::stab::
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Some people will probally read this and surmise we're being too harsh on poor Cunty McCuntslime. I can assure you this is not the case. Now that George Bush has given us the green light to hunt down and turn in the enemies of freedom, I feel it is my patriotic duty to travel to Chesire, Mass. and confront this scourge. While detention in Guantanemo sounds a little too lenient for those of us who know her, I am fairly confident that the 90 miles of ocean between Cuba and Florida will be sufficient to stop the spread of her airborne communicable STD, a disease so fatal, we dare not call it by its real name, suffice to say; "wretched slut" hits the nail on the head.
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What time period were you guys at elan? I don't remeber a Sam Goldstein, but then again Ive been out for 5 years. Without being ultra harsh or slanderous could someone please explain to me why it is so important to say such mean things about this girl? Whats so bad about her?
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I cant belive how many people found this site ny way Matt i was so young when i got to elan and was probably the longest resident ever but you really helped me out a lot until I got out and then you you pissed me off anyway im not mad anymore. but the truth is we all need to get a life this is the most depressing forum in the whole world. and who cares about elan it use to be a good place i dont know what to say anymore. and sam what the hell this is not a gm :razz:
Talia
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hey Matt,
aren't u cousins with Mark Rudy or something like that? Are u asian, I think I remember u but I could be wrong.
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talia whats the good word? always curious as to how things are working out for you. Shakespere, poor choice of work. supporting the time taker. good news if your getting that money doing something worthwile now. sam goldstein, not alot of love going that way. open hatred is weakness. st. patties tommarow, toast being alive, toast being free, toast the future, and drop the memory of elan.
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im so sick of being bitter i got over elan, some of my best memories were in that place i made best friends there most are not doing of whom are not doing well today , Matt did a lot for me and he was one of my best friends. You guys didnt know him when he was in he program i had a different relationship with him everone makes mistakes and does stupid things dont hate him for his. Hope eveyone is happy and doing someting for themseves. Im in Israel doing national service. (TALIA)
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sam got the fuck to hell i sware if i ever see your ass again i will murder you and dont take it as a threat take the shit as a promise u started so much shit in elan man trying to be miss goody goody until u were cought out playing games with RANDY, come on of all people....y cuz he made you feel good and no u werent playing games he just helped you a lot he was your go too wana be man, man u were cought out so many damn times but u were so far shoved up the staffs ass they didnt want to come to there fuckin reality checks and believe oh sam oh never that until u gave the shit up in a group and then people started lookin at the shit more, u are the most lopsided bitch ive evere came across in my life and i hope you burn in hell...and u have some never talking about matt your just pissed off because he didnt like your spazy ass...did ELAN ever teach you anything ITS CALLED JEALOUSEY bitch GET OVER IT....identify your fuckin feelings u cocky bitch
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Who is Randy? Does he have dark brown hair. His father passed away shortly after his parent group? Is that the one?
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Randy, Randolph he was often referred to as. That was him, his pops was a Colonel or something and died while he was in elan, then they laid a whole guilt trip on him and he shot up the ranks awful fast... good kid though, really good kid, just a little too fucked up about that shit and he ended up getting brainwashed BAD...
The next anonymous who tells anyone, ANYONE, to "indentify their feelings" is gonna get it - I don't care how much of a double-douche-dyke Sam is, cool it on the elan-speak please! some people haven't gotten their programming shut off and they could see that and completely reboot! think of the children godammit!
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is his last name lewis????
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Yes
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What a group of dildos you all are.
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On 2004-12-28 07:06:00, artman11111 wrote:
"Whiners?
I agree that Elan is not the same as it was in the 70's-80's.
Though things may not have been right at times during your stay,things were completely out of control and dangerous when I was there.
The remaining staff that work there today that were there during my stay are still guilty of child abuse,and should pay.
If my opinion is "whining",then so be it. We old timers truly have something to whine about"
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On 2004-12-28 07:06:00, artman11111 wrote:
"Whiners?
I agree that Elan is not the same as it was in the 70's-80's.
Though things may not have been right at times during your stay,things were completely out of control and dangerous when I was there.
The remaining staff that work there today that were there during my stay are still guilty of child abuse,and should pay.
If my opinion is "whining",then so be it. We old timers truly have something to whine about"
Your so right. I was there too in 70s early 80s . :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: