Post by: wesfager on November 29, 2004, 01:58:00 PM
They will pay travel, hotel accomodations and a small per dien. They would like to broadcast the show as early as possible, perhaps as early as Dec 9.
If you are willing to appear on the show, please contact the undersigned ASAP. I need your name and phone number which I will forward to my contact with the program.
Thank you,
Wesley Fager
wes@theStraights.com
[ This Message was edited by: wesfager on 2004-11-30 11:12 ]
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2004, 02:03:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: Scarstruck on November 30, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
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On 2004-11-29 15:37:00, iknowcedulies wrote:
"tell them to look at cedu and cascade and read the board postings and look up synanon"
Im sure they want people to interview...
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2004, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2004, 12:19:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE MAY BE USED AGAINST YOU IN WAYS THAT YOU CAN'T KNOW AND WAYS THAT HE WILL NOT DIVULGE TO YOU.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE INFORMATION THAT SEVERAL SURVIVORS WERE GOING TO GIVE AT THE MORGAN, COLLIN, AND GILBERT WAS FORTUNATELY HELD BACK WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT MCG NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF TAKING THE CASE. THE INFORMATION THAT IS USED TO SUPPOSEDLY HELP SURVIVORS ON THIS SITE CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW. YOU ARE DEALING WITH MELVIN SEMBLER, A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR PEDOPHILE.
WATCH WHAT INFORMATION YOU GIVE ON THIS WEBSITE!!!
IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON BEING CAREFUL ABOUT GIVING OUT YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND WHAT HARM COULD COME TO YOU WHEN DOING IT ON A SITE LIKE THIS, PLEASE CONTACT
jonnalexander@lycos.com
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2004, 01:01:00 PM
Why isn't there a DIRECT contact for a "national level" show?!
And Fager wants a "paragraph"? Personal editing? Give them what HE wants and NOT true facts?! Come on!
Post by: Carmel on November 30, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
Is there anywhere that offers a creative writing class supplemented with medication? You all should sign up. Its funny, but I dont see how it can be that if the PERPETRATORS of this abuse cant even barely be held accountable, nor can it be beleived by the general public that said abuse even occured and can be rectified up to this point......how exactly, in the goat bleating hells is someone like Wes Fager going to be able to use my own information against me in cruel and unusual ways?
Tell it to someone who has something to hide.
Yeesh!
Since you [US "drug tsar" McCaffrey] control a federal budget that has just been increased from $17.8 billion last year to $19.2 billion this year, is asking people like you if we should continue with our nation's current drug policy like a person asking a barber if one needs a haircut? --
Orange Country, California
Los Angeles Times
29 March 2000
--Judge James P. Gray
Post by: GregFL on November 30, 2004, 03:38:00 PM
Continue on. Good luck Wes with putting this together. For those of you brave enough to go on national TV with this story, I commend you.
Post by: Antigen on November 30, 2004, 08:19:00 PM
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On 2004-11-30 10:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Really!
Why isn't there a DIRECT contact for a "national level" show?!
And Fager wants a "paragraph"? Personal editing? Give them what HE wants and NOT true facts?! Come on!
"
Because if they give the cretins at DFAF enough head time, they'll sick their lawyers on them and prevent them from doing the show. Just ask Radley Balko about that http://theagitator.com/ (http://theagitator.com/)
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
-- ALAN BARTH, The Loyalty of Free Men, 1951.
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2004, 12:19:00 AM
Noone's said it's not real....all that was said is to be careful, and some very true facts were used to back it up. You waited until the last minute to tell everyone about MCG and then you said they were gonna take the case, and several people waited to give their full information and sure enough....it turned out to be a hoax and you put alot of people on the line for complete bullshit.
You take your smarm and stick it in your mom's cobwebbed pussy, Greg. I think its really funny that you come here and let others know about your multiple personalities by projecting them onto anyone you care to, not that anyone cares that your chance in hell got lucky enuff to monitor a shithole like this. It makes you a sad, strange little man when you do it. Lmfao. What a sniping little bitch. If you have half the memory you used to when you weren't a hasbeen then you know what I already said to you about saying anything to me, ya cocksmoker. Add that to your misinformation since you pretend to be privy to it; noone here has heard a knock on the door and never will.
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on December 01, 2004, 12:24:00 AM
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I have just been contacted by a producer of a well-known, national-level TV show. They want to do a show on Straight survivors. They are looking for survivors from Straight and from any follow-on Straight programs.
Wesley,
I would very much like to participate in this broadcast. I've always considered myself a survivor of sorts- a survivor of the havoc that drugs once wreaked upon my dear family! Yes, you're damned right I'm a survivor, and I have Straight Incorporated to thank for this...
I will email you about this asap.
Thank you,
Virgil Miller Newton
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on December 01, 2004, 12:28:00 AM
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a shithole like this.
You got something right for once, druggie! :lol:
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Post by: Carmel on December 01, 2004, 09:18:00 AM
Anon/Animals/Trollmonger- Why do you even waste your time ranting about how everyone here is wasting their time?
If once [the people] become inattentive to the public affairs,
you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors,
shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general
nature, in spite of individual exceptions.
Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787
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--Neo
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Post by: Scarstruck on December 03, 2004, 12:00:00 AM
Post by: Scarstruck on December 03, 2004, 09:36:00 AM
Yes a sat in my piss all day once...was ripped for deeply personal medical probs etc etc ...
Was mentally fucked but I just know of people that have way more intense stories than me ..
I mean Ill go on the show and tell my story if they ask me to...But if any of you guys wanna go thru with this Id Pm Wes or e mail him this is gonna be taped next week.
Post by: ehm on December 03, 2004, 09:56:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2004, 09:59:00 AM
It seems his list of people to apologize just grows and grows.
Maybe he should take up another hobby other than trying to create havoc on this website?
Post by: PerfectStraightling on December 03, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: ehm on December 03, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
Hmmmm, What will I wear? :grin:
Brad, are you going??[ This Message was edited on 2004-12-03 11:25 ]
Post by: Scarstruck on December 03, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
Hell I might if Girlfriend can come too....But Im not going alone thats for sure....
Plus I got to carry methadone and dont feel comfortable travelling and leaving it in a hotel room etc..If that box disappears Id be in a fetal position laying in my own vomit unable to walk within 24 hours..
But I dont know I might,.,.,
Post by: ehm on December 03, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
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Post by: Cleopatra2U on December 03, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
- Quote
BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU GIVE TO WESLEY FAGER.
After all Wes Fager has done to expose Straight, its predecessors, and its spawn, how dare anyone claim that Wes could be using any information given to him against them? Obviously you have never looked at this man's extensive work, nor have you had the pleasure of dealing with him personally.
THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE MAY BE USED AGAINST YOU IN WAYS THAT YOU CAN'T KNOW AND WAYS THAT HE WILL NOT DIVULGE TO YOU. - Quote
FOR EXAMPLE, THE INFORMATION THAT SEVERAL SURVIVORS WERE GOING TO GIVE AT THE MORGAN, COLLIN, AND GILBERT WAS FORTUNATELY HELD BACK WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT MCG NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF TAKING THE CASE.
I know nothing about this particular case, but I do have some knowledge of the legal industry and its processes. Is it not possible that the firm in question decided, either before or more likely after reviewing information obtained in discovery, not to proceed with the case? - Quote
Why isn't there a DIRECT contact for a "national level" show?!
Humm, maybe they don't want to deal with the likes of the riffraff that post here. - Quote
My story aint all that spectacular ...like I say I saw more shit happen to people around me I did enough to keep from getting sat on hehe...
Ditto... Hell, I'd love to take advantage of the free travel and hotel accomodations, but that ought to go to someone with a better tale to tell than I.
:wave:
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2004, 07:28:00 PM
Post by: whiterabbit on December 03, 2004, 09:20:00 PM
I just emailed Wes that I'd go. I've not heard back. I am afraid of doing it but I want that story told more. Straight should never happen again.
That's not to say you should do it. Do what you feel comfortable with. It could be very vulnerable.
But don't stay home because you don't think you were treated badly enough.
The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this.
--Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
Post by: mental torture made me li on December 03, 2004, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2004, 09:48:00 PM
Please be careful when posting or giving any information to Wes Fagger and Ray or anyone else here, they not use it for your betterment.
Remember that any statute of limitations that you have not exceeded can, in future, be used against you in any court of law. We are highly aware of old timers here who get VERY busy whenever there are new Survivors who come out of their denial or submission. They want your information!!! Your information means that your statute of limitations are ticking as soon as you give it to them.
Please consult an attorney before giving any information on this site, and check all references. If they are not willing to give you the information you request...then follow your gut and you can't go wrong.
Post by: Cleopatra2U on December 03, 2004, 11:26:00 PM
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On 2004-12-03 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Notice how suddenly all the "people" who were claiming that this was bogus have SHUT UP?? :lol: "
*sigh* If only...
To the last Anon who posted:
While your advice regarding statutes of limitations is shrewd, it applies only to people who are interested in filing lawsuits in states that have such statutes.
From having been on and off these forums for several years, and having communicated with some of the people who post here outside of these forums, it is my belief that fewer people here are interested in pursuing legal action regarding things that happened in the past as they are in educating the public to prevent similar travesties from happening in the present and future... The latter of which is Wes's aim in coordinating efforts for a possible upcoming talk show episode.
You say that you "have checked several records and find NO evidence there is any show whatsoever." Have you contacted Wes? Have you gotten the package of materials from the show that other, non-anonymous and thus more credible posters to this and similar threads have reported getting?
I am reluctant to bash you because, as I stated before, some of your advice could be well applied by individuals in certain circumstances. But I don't understand why you are basically bashing Wes, and Ray Bradbury, two people whose efforts against Straight, its predecessors, and its spawn, are well-documented and well-intentioned.
Why wouldn't someone affiliated with a talk show contact someone like Wes Fager, whose website speaks for itself, when trying to recruit panelists? To me that's just common sense. What you are doing, well, that's just nonsense.
Post by: Antigen on December 04, 2004, 12:09:00 AM
People everywhere enjoy believing things that they know are not true. It spares them the ordeal of thinking for themselves and taking responsibility for what they know.
BROOKS ATKINSON (1894-1984), Once Around The Sun, 1951.
Post by: whiterabbit on December 04, 2004, 12:31:00 AM
Please be careful when posting or giving any information to Wes Fagger and Ray or anyone else here, they not use it for your betterment.
Remember that any statute of limitations that you have not exceeded can, in future, be used against you in any court of law. We are highly aware of old timers here who get VERY busy whenever there are new Survivors who come out of their denial or submission. They want your information!!! Your information means that your statute of limitations are ticking as soon as you give it to them.
Please consult an attorney before giving any information on this site, and check all references. If they are not willing to give you the information you request...then follow your gut and you can't go wrong.
Thank you for your concern. But I'm not looking to sue or win any lawsuit. I'm sure I'm well beyond the statute of limitations. I want to educate. Better yet if our efforts here resulted in real regulations and standards for the teen help industry then I'd consider it a success.......
You break my heart sometimes.
Here's freedom to him who would read;
Here's freedom to him who would write;
None ever feared that the truth should be heard,
But them that the truth would indict.
--author unknown (circa 1914)
Post by: ehm on December 04, 2004, 02:36:00 AM
Stop minimizing your experiences..(Referring to the two posts before his) Isn't that what all victims of abuse do?
I was abused. It fucked up many years of my life. I'd like a chance to tell my story. Isn't that what we all wanted?????
Post by: Cleopatra2U on December 04, 2004, 12:34:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
If it's education you want to give to your community, open a Not For Profit Organization.
Post by: Anonymous on December 04, 2004, 02:20:00 PM
Post by: ehm on December 04, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
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On 2004-12-04 09:34:00, Cleopatra2U wrote:
"I believe Pietra was being sarcastic..."
I know that.
I was AGREEING with him.
Post by: mental torture made me li on December 04, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
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On 2004-12-04 18:49:00, cult survivor wrote:
I was AGREEING with him."
her. but thanks. aargh. we never talk about the heavy stuff anymore. I don't know, a few years ago it all still hurt. Right now I am very distracted in my life with other things, so I don't think about it much. Sometimes it is hard to sort out the effects of Straight from the effects of growing up in domestic violence. But it is not hard to see how incredibly damaging that experience was at the time. I was really weird and changed afterwards. Very mentally different. Teachers noticed. VERY pale. Doctors noticed.
I can't get away to do the show (ShaneUNC notices this and gleefully rubs his hands together. You'll see.)[ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-12 03:09 ]
Post by: teachback on December 04, 2004, 11:31:00 PM
Post by: ehm on December 05, 2004, 04:02:00 PM
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On 2004-12-04 19:36:00, Pietra wrote:
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On 2004-12-04 18:49:00, cult survivor wrote:
I was AGREEING with him."
her. but thanks. aargh. we never talk about the heavy stuff anymore. I don't know, a few years ago it all still hurt. Right now I am very distracted in my life with other things, so I don't think about it much. Sometimes it is hard to sort out the effects of Straight from the effects of growing up in domestic violence. But it is not hard to see how incredibly damaging that experience was at the time. I was really weird and changed afterwards. Very mentally different. Teachers noticed. VERY pale. Doctors noticed.
I can't get away to do the show, but I totally support heart and soul whoever does go."
Yeah, I notice it in little mannerisms and stuff, but we can never negate what we were subjected to, or it becomes, "Okay."
Frank, If I'm chosen to go, I'll do my very best. Thank God it's an interview, and not just me standing up, telling a story. In the end, it's one more person coming out, and stating how wrong it all was/is...
Post by: mental torture made me li on December 05, 2004, 10:38:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on December 05, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
Just kidding. But seriously, as daytime talk goes, this is not Jerry Springer. I think it'll really be OK on that count.
For those who do go, here's my only request. Pretty much the same as Frank said. The way I see it, the daytime talk audience has been getting regular doses of the other side of the story for years. Sally Jesse Raphael has hawked boot camps. I'm pretty sure she had Charles Long III as a guest star. Now Dr. Phil is hawking Provo Canyon and other members of the troubled parent industry. I think it's time this audience got clued in on the other side of the story.
But that's just a request, not a demand. I'll be watching and cheering for all I'm worth for whoever does go. And, as always, take care of yourself! That's good advice from Pietra. This is a good (not great, but good) opportunity to get the story out. But nothing is worth opening yourself up to another dose of the same ol'e.
I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants.
-- A. Whitney Brown
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 08:36:00 AM
THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE MAY BE USED AGAINST YOU IN WAYS THAT YOU CAN'T KNOW AND WAYS THAT HE WILL NOT DIVULGE TO YOU.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE INFORMATION THAT SEVERAL SURVIVORS WERE GOING TO GIVE AT THE MORGAN, COLLIN, AND GILBERT WAS FORTUNATELY HELD BACK WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT MCG NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF TAKING THE CASE. THE INFORMATION THAT IS USED TO SUPPOSEDLY HELP SURVIVORS ON THIS SITE CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW. YOU ARE DEALING WITH MELVIN SEMBLER, A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR PEDOPHILE.
WATCH WHAT INFORMATION YOU GIVE ON THIS WEBSITE!!!
IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON BEING CAREFUL ABOUT GIVING OUT YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND WHAT HARM COULD COME TO YOU WHEN DOING IT ON A SITE LIKE THIS, PLEASE CONTACT
jonnalexander@lycos.com
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 09:52:00 AM
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On 2004-12-06 05:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU GIVE TO WESLEY FAGER.......
:smile: :smile: :smile:
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Stop being a pussy. I know Wes is dear to you, an apology is owed to the more than fifteen people who wanted to give their testimonies for MCG when we were told that they had gotten around the statutes and they case would be taken.
It's all well and good that you might be doing advocate things for children. But do it in way that is not fucking cheap and deceptive. Who gives a fucking shit if the whole government knows that Survivors are on some show you say exists. No, you don't get it. Give the information first before you expect any, Wes.
Here; I will give you my information. I was an abused child patient in Straight Incorporated. Now, you give me more information and I will tell you the rest. Oh, wait....you already gangked several testimonies from several people and nothing happened with it. So, now that you have some information - give it up.
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 10:22:00 AM
GET THE FUCK OVER THIS AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE SWEETHEART!!!!!!
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Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: mElvinSemBler on December 06, 2004, 10:33:00 AM
GET THE FUCK OVER THIS AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE SWEETHEART!!!!!!"
How uptite can you get? Not much more than that.
I mean, what a pussy comment. When I have your children in my new Straight Incorporated, I will give them extra special attention and make sure they know their place. This post reminds of that fucking idiot who wrote the Serenity Prayer whose life was all about servitude to something and ideals that don't really exist in this world:
The Serenity Prayer
(full text)
GOD, grant me the serenity
to accept the things
I cannot change,
Courage to change the
things I can, and the
wisdom to know the difference.
Living ONE DAY AT A TIME;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardship as the
pathway to peace.
Taking, as He did, this
sinful world as it is,
not as I would have it.
Trusting that He will make
all things right if I
surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy
in this life, and supremely
happy with Him forever in
the next. Amen
Reinhold Neibuhr-1926
God what a waste!
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 03:55:00 PM
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On 2004-12-06 07:33:00, mElvinSemBler wrote:
Quit ripping off other people's posts. Come up with an original thought of your own please. Straight Inc. v 2.0 is Dr. Miller Newton's.
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 04:26:00 PM
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On 2004-12-06 07:33:00, mElvinSemBler wrote:
< When I have your children in my new Straight Incorporated, I will give them extra special attention and make sure they know their place.
Quit ripping off other people's posts. Come up with an original thought of your own please. Straight Inc. v 2.0 is Dr. Miller Newton's.
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2004, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
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On 2004-12-06 07:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut your scared little pie hole and wake up to what is going on around you. If you were in Straight you should know that we don't scare easily. You could have a person from a correctional facility ask us to accept charges all day long, but we'll just call you back collect. We expect as much from you and we like the fun. Keep it coming, and do think of better schemes.
Huh?? This doesn't even make any fucking sense.
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Stop being a pussy. I know Wes is dear to you, an apology is owed to the more than fifteen people who wanted to give their testimonies for MCG when we were told that they had gotten around the statutes and they case would be taken.
Well this just shows how fucking ignorant you really are. NO ONE, I repeat, NO ONE was ever told that anyone had gotten around the statute of limitations. To the contrary, we were told that one of, ONE OF, the purposes of the meeting was to see if there even WAS a way around the statute.
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It's all well and good that you might be doing advocate things for children. But do it in way that is not fucking cheap and deceptive. Who gives a fucking shit if the whole government knows that Survivors are on some show you say exists. No, you don't get it. Give the information first before you expect any, Wes.
Here; I will give you my information. I was an abused child patient in Straight Incorporated. Now, you give me more information and I will tell you the rest. Oh, wait....you already gangked several testimonies from several people and nothing happened with it. So, now that you have some information - give it up."
So because things didn't work out according to YOUR time table then everyone involved is just full of shit???? AMAZING. Animals, what color is the sky in your world????? :rofl: :rofl:
And since you're the one who is constantly demanding proof of everything, I'd like to see YOUR proof that Wes is "working for the Semblers". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Moron.
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on December 07, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
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On 2004-12-06 13:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Let's try that again.Quote
On 2004-12-06 07:33:00, mElvinSemBler wrote:
< When I have your children in my new Straight Incorporated, I will give them extra special attention and make sure they know their place.
Quit ripping off other people's posts. Come up with an original thought of your own please. Straight Inc. v 2.0 is Dr. Miller Newton's. "
That's right, Druggie, Straight, Inc. v2.0 is indeed MY project---Sembler and Co. have nothing to do with it. That fat old Hebe didn't back me up when the shit hit the fan at Straight and KIDS, so there's no way in Hell that he's going to reap the rewards of the new, improved, all-ages Straight, Inc. v2.0! I'm going to give you T&R for your skilful confrontation of that plagierizing imbecile (who will be eating PBJs for about a month or so---he needs to learn respect for Executive Staff). Love ya!
Post by: Carmel on December 07, 2004, 12:19:00 PM
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On 2004-12-06 18:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You can't do shit to animals, stop fronting like you can do a fucking thing! You're just an old washed up sad person with no hope of anything, and here you are waiting for Rays' case or some Television show to brighten your own self absorbed nonimportance in a life that you never had control of. In fact, we will personally ask him, he does live here, to please type some more honest shit since you hate it and whine so much for more."
There is that "we" again. Someday, I want to meet "we'. Maybe I can meet "we" and "they" at the same time!
Wait for it...here it comes....the gaping holes from which Animals can never be divulged! Or some shit.....
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.[ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2004-12-07 09:21 ][ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2004-12-07 09:21 ]
--Unanimous
Post by: teachback on December 07, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: Scarstruck on December 07, 2004, 06:45:00 PM
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On 2004-12-03 18:20:00, whiterabbit wrote:
"You know you're just used to your story. Weren't you only 12 or something when you went in? That in itself is horrifying. I look at my 12 year old son and think about him under those circumstances and it makes me want to weep.
I just emailed Wes that I'd go. I've not heard back. I am afraid of doing it but I want that story told more. Straight should never happen again.
That's not to say you should do it. Do what you feel comfortable with. It could be very vulnerable.
But don't stay home because you don't think you were treated badly enough.The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
--Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
They didnt call me back...well it went like this : I PM wes and then got call from producer...missed producers call and returned it early in the am at which time she asked some questions and gave me the ol "We will get back to ya"
But they didnt so Im not sure if they have all they need or what...
I would have gone I suppose...but its not a sad teary thing for me anymore ..Things post straight were infinately worse for me than straight itself ya know?
Post by: mental torture made me li on December 07, 2004, 07:09:00 PM
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They didnt call me back...well it went like this : I PM wes and then got call from producer...missed producers call and returned it early in the am at which time she asked some questions and gave me the ol "We will get back to ya"
But they didnt so Im not sure if they have all they need or what...
I would have gone I suppose...but its not a sad teary thing for me anymore ..Things post straight were infinately worse for me than straight itself ya know?
"
yah come on, this is America, a talk show, stupid housewives, looking for a thrill better than sex, the emotional purge. imagine the producer's meeting: "Okay, we have one here, -- what's that? -- no, I don't think he's going to cry for us. And next on the list..." [ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-07 20:48 ][ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-12 03:11 ][ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-12 03:12 ]
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 12:10:00 AM
Post by: Scarstruck on December 08, 2004, 08:45:00 AM
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On 2004-12-07 16:09:00, Pietra wrote:
"Quote
They didnt call me back...well it went like this : I PM wes and then got call from producer...missed producers call and returned it early in the am at which time she asked some questions and gave me the ol "We will get back to ya"
But they didnt so Im not sure if they have all they need or what...
I would have gone I suppose...but its not a sad teary thing for me anymore ..Things post straight were infinately worse for me than straight itself ya know?
"
yah come on, this is America, a talk show, fat housewives, looking for a thrill better than sex, the emotional purge. imagine the producer's meeting: "Okay, we have one here, -- what's that? -- no, I don't think he's going to cry for us. And next on the list..." [ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-07 20:48 ]"
Hehe you are exactly right..in fact I realised this halfway through the phone interview...Talking about straight doesnt stir up alot of feelings anymore...
In fact Id go through 2 more stints in straight if I could get off this methadone hook.
Ever seen the Tx Chainsaw massacre remake? When the guy is hanging by his neck on that meathook and hes trying to pull himself up and off of it? And it just keeps going back in his neck and hurting him worse? thats how kicking methadone is..
I know yall dont give a fuck and thats ok..
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All the money in the fucking world wouldnt buy me an ounce of faith or a second of trust in anything you are about....[ This Message was edited by: Scarstruck on 2004-12-08 05:46 ]
Post by: GregFL on December 08, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
Go figure. Whatever the outcome Scarstruck, I wish you the best and all the strength you need in dealing with this.
I am with you on the emotion thing...I just don't have it anymore when talking about my experience at the Seed. I used to be angry and get upset, but that has been years ago.
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
Have you ever tried suboxone or subutex? From what I know there aren't many doctors in the US that can currently prescribe it and it's rather expensive (25 bucks a pill, one per day, with insurance) but it works miracles!! It COMPLETELY masks opiod withdrawals, I'm not sure about methadone withdrawals but it might be worth looking into. I bought a couple off the street and kicked a nasty Oxy/Hydro prescription problem WITH EASE. The best part is there is no withdrawal from the meds, you don't get all banged up like you do on methadone either (at least with Suboxone) There's also a blocking agent that lasts for a number of days afterwards so even if you do try and get high again it won't work.
Hope this helps.
-Anon for this post
Post by: Antigen on December 08, 2004, 01:04:00 PM
I give money for church organs in the hope the organ music will distract the congregation's attention from the rest of the service.
--Andrew Carnegie, Scottish-born American industrialist and philanthropist
Post by: ehm on December 08, 2004, 01:35:00 PM
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They didnt call me back...well it went like this : I PM wes and then got call from producer...missed producers call and returned it early in the am at which time she asked some questions and gave me the ol "We will get back to ya"
But they didnt so Im not sure if they have all they need or what...
I would have gone I suppose...but its not a sad teary thing for me anymore ..Things post straight were infinately worse for me than straight itself ya know?
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yah come on, this is America, a talk show, fat housewives, looking for a thrill better than sex, the emotional purge. imagine the producer's meeting: "Okay, we have one here, -- what's that? -- no, I don't think he's going to cry for us. And next on the list..." [ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-07 20:48 ]"
I talked to the producer's assistant again. The show is still on, but they are taking survivors of programs that are still open. I wish they'd added old survivors too, but she said they may be extending the subject and doing another show.
Post by: Antigen on December 08, 2004, 03:17:00 PM
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On 2004-12-08 10:35:00, cult survivor wrote:
I talked to the producer's assistant again. The show is still on, but they are taking survivors of programs that are still open. I wish they'd added old survivors too, but she said they may be extending the subject and doing another show. "
Yeay! I was hoping that would happen.
On the one hand, yes, this is all about voyerism for bored housewives. That's pretty much what daytime talk is all about. But, otoh, those bored housewives are this generations mothers, aunts, grandmothers, etc. They're the ones plotting the next intervention and they've been getting the other side of the story for years. I'm glad the show is going to address programs that are trying to recruite from that same audience on the other channel.
:nworthy:
"The FARC is part of the history of Colombia and a historical phenomenon", (President Pastrana) says, "and they must be treated as Colombians". ... They come and ask for bread [aid from Washington], and you give them stones.
Robert White is a former American ambassador to Paraguay and El Salvador, and former No. 2 man with the U.S. Embassy in Bogota, is president of the Centre for International Policy in Washington D.C.
Robert White
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 03:38:00 PM
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On 2004-12-07 21:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why does Carmel keep ranting about her private parts that way? "
I love when Carmel talks about her privates.
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 10:56:00 PM
Post by: Froderik on December 08, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
Who is this Walsh (or Stanovich) crimestopper guy? What's his deal?
Fuck Ms. Pete and feed her dogshit sandwiches!
Post by: GregFL on December 08, 2004, 11:12:00 PM
That being said, racism is the tool of the ignorant.
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 11:36:00 PM
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Who is this Walsh (or Stanovich) crimestopper guy? What's his deal?
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I'm assuming that Walsh is referring to John Walsh of America's Most Wanted fame. His son was murdered in FL years ago.
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2004, 09:18:00 PM
I bet Montel never mentiones THAT.
He will be more interested in dredging up details of Sammie infected vagina in her back to forwards wipe of her teenage humble slish."Ouch,I bet thats raw" says Montel.
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2004, 07:34:00 PM
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On 2004-12-07 21:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why does Carmel keep ranting about her private parts that way? "
I love when Carmel talks about her privates."
I love Carmel!!! She's fucking hot!!!!