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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 12, 2004, 06:31:00 AM
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Junkie???? any comments???
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There is plenty of comments from former residents about Marc at this site, do a little digging and you too will need all you need to know about this evil man.
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Most of the comments aren't true, except about him being a dope fiend, which he loved to talk about in front of the house, with some kids as young as 12. He claimed to have a habit of at least $500, and back in the 1970s, when things were cheaper and dope was better. His family had to have been rich or he would have sought help long before his habit got that expensive. Even if his family wasn't rich, I do not want to know what he did to support that kind of a habit, because supporting a $40 to $50 a day habit was hard enough for most of my friends. He claims to have done time, so he probably robbed a lot of people.
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When I was at elan Marc literally bragged about his dope habit, then he left for a few months and came back all stung out, even skinnier, sunken eyes and nodding off in groups, which before he left, he would call GM's on kids for nodding off. It was obvious he did dope at elan.
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Just look at him. Of course he is a junkie.
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I was at Elan when Marec left and came back twice, claiming to go to Arizona, most likely to rehab. A couple times, I saw that he was high, but I didn't want the staff at Elan to know that I used to do dope, so I kept my mouth shut.
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Since Elan did such a good job helping troubled teens, I'm sure there are some people out there who use and/or sell dope. Why don't you guys find out where he lives and sell him a hot shot?
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Marc was a friggin loser :exclaim:
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Look up junkie in the dictionary, thre is a pic of marc :silly: :silly:
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Look up junkie in the dictionary, thre is a pic of marc :silly: :silly:
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Boy you guys are real original.....come on...give the guy a break! If you think that he ruined your life, and that is why you choose to degrade the man, then open your eyes....you ruined your own life. Marc was a kind, passionate person who yes, HAD problems of his own. He took the opportunity that Elan once gave him and used it to better his life and the lives of others.
If you speak about Marc without having known him well, you just sound ignorant. Marc had a tough shell, but those of us who knew and loved him, knew a different side than the side you ingrates portray.
PS- Take the bag off your head if you believe in what you say
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Hey guys....all you ignorant assholes who think that when Marc came back he was all "stung out" are completely wrong. Marc is sick. He will forever be sick. Give him a break already. He kicked the dope habit 30 years ago.
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He kicked the dope habit 30 years ago.
Do your homework before you spout untruths
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im sorry ....where does your factual knowledge come from. I may be off by a few years either way when I say 30, but that wasnt my point. My point is.....get over how bad marc hurt you in elan. Grow up, toughen up and shut up
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i agree with chrysta, Marc was one of the most amazing people i ever met. punk asses who talk shit about him will never know how hard it was too stand in his shoes for a minute, or how much strength of character it took him just to get out of bed every morning and face another day. dont talk shit about Marc.
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He and Marty were seen performing ass-faggotry on several occasions. :lol:
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I think that the only people who can talk about elan being even REMOTELY abusive ae the people who ewre there in the early 80's and before.
In the late 80's and 90's. elan was a glorified sit- in- the- corner.
If you people call that abuse, you need look up the definition of the word.
Elan was a silly waste of time, if you still haven't gotten over it, the problem is YOU not elan.
The sane people did what they had to do and realised what a silly, easy place it was and got out in 16 months.
Anyone who tayed there longer, got shot down, etc....
or STILL thinks about this silliness needs SERIOUS itme on the head shrinker's chez.
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On 2005-06-29 18:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I think that the only people who can talk about elan being even REMOTELY abusive ae the people who ewre there in the early 80's and before.
In the late 80's and 90's. elan was a glorified sit- in- the- corner.
If you people call that abuse, you need look up the definition of the word.
Elan was a silly waste of time, if you still haven't gotten over it, the problem is YOU not elan.
The sane people did what they had to do and realised what a silly, easy place it was and got out in 16 months.
Anyone who tayed there longer, got shot down, etc....
or STILL thinks about this silliness needs SERIOUS itme on the head shrinker's chez."
16 months! You must not have been there. In my days, even the major ass-kissers couldn't get out in 16 months. The average stay now is 2 1/2-3 years!!! That is a long time. Even the students who were not abused have a right to be pissed off. We all lost a large chunk of our childhood, and no shrink can return those years to us.
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2 1/2 - 3 years now? WOW. When I was there it was 18-24 then changed to 24 - 30. Just think in 2 years the everage stay will be 5 years.
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I was sent there in '81 and was there for 19 mo including re-entry. I seen some messed up stuff but I would rather have it be crazier for a shorter period of time than milder and longer.
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On 2005-06-30 07:05:00, ShyGirl wrote:
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On 2005-06-29 18:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I think that the only people who can talk about elan being even REMOTELY abusive ae the people who ewre there in the early 80's and before.
In the late 80's and 90's. elan was a glorified sit- in- the- corner.
If you people call that abuse, you need look up the definition of the word.
Elan was a silly waste of time, if you still haven't gotten over it, the problem is YOU not elan.
The sane people did what they had to do and realised what a silly, easy place it was and got out in 16 months.
Anyone who tayed there longer, got shot down, etc....
or STILL thinks about this silliness needs SERIOUS itme on the head shrinker's chez."
16 months! You must not have been there. In my days, even the major ass-kissers couldn't get out in 16 months. The average stay now is 2 1/2-3 years!!! That is a long time. Even the students who were not abused have a right to be pissed off. We all lost a large chunk of our childhood, and no shrink can return those years to us.
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Ummm...
Ya,16-18 months was the average stay while I was there, I was out in 17.
only the freakshows like Tracy Burdy were there for 3 years.
Holy fuck.
3 years?????!!!!!
Ask around.
16-18 months was the stay.
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I also never got shotdown.
Sorry to bust your psycho bubble.
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holy cow.
21/2 to 3 years?
That's a lie.
Sorry.
16-18 months is about right...in fact I remember some who were out in 14 or 15.
Also,
it wasn't that hard to not get shotdown.
Is it that hard to not get fired from a minimum wage paying job?
It's basically the same thing.
If your answer to that rhetorical question was yes,
the problems you have have nothing to do with Elan and you will have limited successes in your life.
Stop thinking about it.
It was realy not a big deal.
Oh to the prson who was tehre in '81-
I heard it actually WAS nuts back then ,
but in the 90's the worst thing that happened to you was you were told to scrub a toilet or screamed at by a bunch of losers who wouldn't get laid in the real world no matter WHO they screamed at, lol.
It was not crazy and for not too long a period of time.
is 16 months really the end of the world?
Nah.
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I was there for three years exactly. June 18th, 2001 to June 18th, 2004. Not some fun times, that`s for damn sure.
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That's pretty outlandish.
When I was there it was like uh=nheard of to be there for even 2 years.
If somebody was, it was usually the most fucked up raped his sister type half retarded loser.
Everyone was pretty much out in 18 months or sooner...16-18 like I said.
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On 2005-06-30 16:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"That's pretty outlandish.
When I was there it was like uh=nheard of to be there for even 2 years.
If somebody was, it was usually the most fucked up raped his sister type half retarded loser.
Everyone was pretty much out in 18 months or sooner...16-18 like I said."
I was there for 3 years myself...and I never raped my sister :smile:
I think I was there for so long because I was so young when I got to Elan. I think they try to keep everyone there until as close to their 18th birthday as possible. That's usually when the money runs out or the kids sign themselves out anyway.
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eh
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Marc was a good guy, and i'll have words with anyone who says otherwise. I agree with Chrysta, knowing him personally makes a huge difference. Most of the people I know who went to Elan, graduated or not, don't have anything nice to say about him unless they worked with him on a regular basis. Honestly, I kinda miss him, but i've given up on trying to find him. Getting to have a conversation with someone at Elan is enough of a pain, extracting personal information about former directors is pretty much impossible.
As far as time stayed, I was there for about 30 months. I find it funny that people on these boards accuse others of lying about the time they've spent there. Obviously shit changes over time. The reasoning for it is beyond me. I happened to see both kids leaving after 15 months (and going back to being fucked up) as well as people who were there for 3 years.
Time to go set off some fireworks. Happy 4th.
Dave
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AND HE'D STILL BE MORE OF A MAN THEN YOU BECAUSE HES SHOWING HIS FACE,,,BAGHEADS UNITE AND KEEP HIDING..ITS FUNNY HOW EVERYONE IS SAYING THEY SAW HIM HIGH BUT NOBODY SAID ANYTHING THEN ,,,IT WASNT IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO TELL ON HIM THEN SO WHY HIDE AND DO IT NOW..THAT SHOWS YOUR TRUE CHARACTER AND RUINS YOUR CREDIBILITY...IF YOURE GONNA MAKE ACCUSATIONS PEOPLE TAKE THEM MORE SERIOUS IF YOUR CHARACTER IS THAT OF A REAL MAN AND NOT OF AN ANONYMOUS "BAGHEAD" MAKING IGNORANT COMMENTS..
P.S.
OH WAIT.................................LEMME GUESS,,,,,,,IM A NIGGER..
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I get sick when i read the comments about marc being some monster..he was literally like a father to me while i was there and i will always love him for that even if he started using dope again today..i cant believe that people are actually acting like he was that bad of a guy.Are you really that weak of a person to come on a bullshit site like this and make comments while you hide..the funny thing is that alot of you who talk the harshest are the ones who just left within a few years,,that program is like summer camp now and you couldnt even hack it....i wasnt sent there by mommy and daddy either i was sent by the new york child services system who were my legal guardians..Marc took me under his wing in 1990 and to this day i love the man like family dope problem or not, whats ironic is i remember a quote he would say every once in a while "profanity is the sign of an ignorant mind trying to express itself--marc"..The more i read these posts i see what he was talking about..
Put it this way, If i had information about wrongdoing going on at elan and marty raping kids, marc doing drugs then i would definately not ruin my credibility by posting on this site in such an immature way..but if i did i would show my name and face to show that im a man standing behind my words..i would call maines district attorney, channel 8 news the newspapers. montel, oprah,, ....c'mon, theres so many ways to get real exposure about the "abuse" you claim,,so either do that or go to http://www.anonymousasshole.com (http://www.anonymousasshole.com) and call it a day..
Im glad that so many people support marc, i really miss him and i wish him the best always...you guys would be lucky to have half of the integrity that man has. by the way raise your hand if you dont have any personal problems of your own<<<>>>> exactly my point..so why execute him for being human???????????????
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Dave,
E-mail me at my address in the Elanalum guestbook and I'll give you Marc's e-mail. I'm not posting it on here.
Hope you're well. I don't post on here often.
Pete
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On 2005-07-03 08:26:00, THE_REAL_GREG_CRUZ wrote:
"AND HE'D STILL BE MORE OF A MAN THEN YOU BECAUSE HES SHOWING HIS FACE,,,BAGHEADS UNITE AND KEEP HIDING..ITS FUNNY HOW EVERYONE IS SAYING THEY SAW HIM HIGH BUT NOBODY SAID ANYTHING THEN ,,,IT WASNT IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO TELL ON HIM THEN SO WHY HIDE AND DO IT NOW..THAT SHOWS YOUR TRUE CHARACTER AND RUINS YOUR CREDIBILITY...IF YOURE GONNA MAKE ACCUSATIONS PEOPLE TAKE THEM MORE SERIOUS IF YOUR CHARACTER IS THAT OF A REAL MAN AND NOT OF AN ANONYMOUS "BAGHEAD" MAKING IGNORANT COMMENTS..
P.S.
OH WAIT.................................LEMME GUESS,,,,,,,IM A NIGGER.."
P.S.
OH WAIT.................................LEMME GUESS,,,,,,,IM A NIGGER..
BINGO!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Greg, just so you can rest assured, Marc doesn't have a dope problem right now. Wherever that came from, I can guarantee it's not true. I'll contact you by email soon, and give you more details.
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Marc is a fuckin asshole? Pardon me for expressing myself! Im not on here everyday bitchin on how he is the biggest DICK in the world, or how ELAN ruined my life. But, he is and elan is the biggest brain washing factory around.
I dont dwell on what he did because i deal with people like him every day. The thing is that i had to live with Marc day in and day out. So i know the way he really is. That is why I get so angry when some on says that he was the nicest person. And, yes he did have his favorites. Im not angry because i wasnt one of them, but the way he treated kids who were not. For example Steve Tompkins. Steve was a pain but this kid was always getting abused by Marc even whwn he did not deserve it.
Elan may have changed since the 70's & 80's but the staff didnt and it still sounds like its the same bullshit, moneysucking hell hole from the disco era.
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Oliver you are a fucking idiot
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I am DAMMM IT! Oh well better than a dope head!!!
Fuck Marc! Fuck Marc! Fuck Marc! Fuck Marc! ::both::
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I don't know, a dope head can kick his habit... you will ALWAYS be a dumb fuckin idiot.
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Oh shit your expressing yourself, You Fucking Idiot! :wstupid:
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Dude,you are retarded Hi Yuh Yuh
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i can't believe so many individuals take the time to spit verbal vomit about individuals who no longer matter.
marc was not the emeny....most of the time our we were our own worst emeny.
i understand G.C. point of view, i was sent to elan by child services (not my parents) and marc was very close to me, and four years later still talk today.
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On 2004-12-18 10:59:00, Chrysta wrote:
"Hey guys....all you ignorant assholes who think that when Marc came back he was all "stung out" are completely wrong. Marc is sick. He will forever be sick. Give him a break already. He kicked the dope habit 30 years ago."
Are you nuts he nver thought of giving any of us a brake. I say Fuck You. Shut Your mouth you ass kisser. :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
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I find it ironic .
Marc came in about a month or so before I left.
Irony at its best.
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Marc was cool as a director, especially when he'd come in on a friday nite as a surprise, and you KNEW he was smoking just 20 minutes before he got there, he was so much more mellow...I loved the fuckin guy
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On 2005-11-30 17:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Marc was cool as a director, especially when he'd come in on a friday nite as a surprise, and you KNEW he was smoking just 20 minutes before he got there, he was so much more mellow...I loved the fuckin guy"
Are you refering to when he had to work "DoD" overnight? Yes, I do remember him looking burnt out.
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yup esq, EXACTLY...If you smoke, you know ehn someone else was burnin one up...
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On 2005-11-30 17:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Marc was cool as a director, especially when he'd come in on a friday nite as a surprise, and you KNEW he was smoking just 20 minutes before he got there, he was so much more mellow...I loved the fuckin guy"
But back in the day when he would come in all wided eyed we all knew shit was about to go down . He was a real SICKO back then.
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You wouldnt have loved the guy when it was back in the day and he came in all coked out and crazy.It was not fun. He had house in the dinning room for 48 hours. No sleep No food. Only G I ing the floors. He was and most likely still a SICK FUCK.
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No fuckin way! Wow...I cant say I wouldnt agree with the way you feel if I was there for THAT shit, rosenburg, DOIN BLOW? I thought he liked dope, not blow...
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On 2005-12-01 18:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"No fuckin way! Wow...I cant say I wouldnt agree with the way you feel if I was there for THAT shit, rosenburg, DOIN BLOW? I thought he liked dope, not blow..."
He would speed ball it. I saw him once in Elan 4 on the 3rd floor girls dorm sitting on one of the beds putting a white ball on a spoon and cooking it up. I was on my way to one of the school rooms,thats were we had our school. I never open my mouth in fear of what may happen to me. Marc was so out of it he never even knew I was there. And as you know everyone in Elan are snichs so I didnt say shit.
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On 2004-12-18 15:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"He kicked the dope habit 30 years ago.
Do your homework before you spout untruths"
[/quote Are you doing dope too or are you a Dope? You must have really been brianwashed.
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Marc never kicek the habbit. He just got better at hideing it.
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nice to see the un-employable,mentally ill folk here still spreading good cheer
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Kick the dope 30 years ago :wstupid:
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Marc is the FUCKIN MAN, Got that? good..
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The person that said they actually witnessed him bootin' up, what year did this happen?>?
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Best way to wake up you ask? Marc Rosenburg in his blood curdling scream " HOUSE IN THE DINING ROOM, GENERAL FUCKING MEETING" aaahhh, what a refreshing way to start the day! :lol:
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yea what year was this when you saw marc bangin out a speedball ::drummer::
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On 2005-12-02 14:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The person that said they actually witnessed him bootin' up, what year did this happen?>?"
1980.
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On 2005-12-02 14:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"yea what year was this when you saw marc bangin out a speedball ::drummer:: "
It was 1980 my friend.
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On 2005-12-02 12:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Marc is the FUCKIN MAN, Got that? good.."
And who the hell are you his dealer. Shut and go sit in a corner. ::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff::
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Marc, great guy with a great heart, mwah!!! ::heart::
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On 2005-12-02 17:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Marc, great guy with a great heart, mwah!!! ::jawdrop:: ::jawdrop:: ::unhappy:: ::unhappy:: ::unhappy:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: ::armed:: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull:
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On 2005-07-03 09:02:00, THE_REAL_GREG_CRUZ wrote:
" I get sick when i read the comments about marc being some monster..he was literally like a father to me while i was there and i will always love him for that even if he started using dope again today..i cant believe that people are actually acting like he was that bad of a guy.Are you really that weak of a person to come on a bullshit site like this and make comments while you hide..the funny thing is that alot of you who talk the harshest are the ones who just left within a few years,,that program is like summer camp now and you couldnt even hack it....i wasnt sent there by mommy and daddy either i was sent by the new york child services system who were my legal guardians..Marc took me under his wing in 1990 and to this day i love the man like family dope problem or not, whats ironic is i remember a quote he would say every once in a while "profanity is the sign of an ignorant mind trying to express itself--marc"..The more i read these posts i see what he was talking about..
Put it this way, If i had information about wrongdoing going on at elan and marty raping kids, marc doing drugs then i would definately not ruin my credibility by posting on this site in such an immature way..but if i did i would show my name and face to show that im a man standing behind my words..i would call maines district attorney, channel 8 news the newspapers. montel, oprah,, ....c'mon, theres so many ways to get real exposure about the "abuse" you claim,,so either do that or go to http://www.anonymousasshole.com (http://www.anonymousasshole.com) and call it a day..
Im glad that so many people support marc, i really miss him and i wish him the best always...you guys would be lucky to have half of the integrity that man has. by the way raise your hand if you dont have any personal problems of your own<<<>>>> exactly my point..so why execute him for being human???????????????"
You are a ASSHOLE.
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Marc is a prophet man, he rules the night away man!!!!I love you marc
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MARC ROSENBURG-EXCELLENT, CARING,STERN,SMART,AND DAMN FUCKING COOL..
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Marc sort of did resemble Howard Stern in a way.
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On 2005-12-04 03:44:00, SS esq wrote:
"Marc sort of did resemble Howard Stern in a way."
Howard is too cool.
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Wow, GREAT observation..He does resemble The king of media...word the fuck up nigga!~!!@ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jordan eisman i love you
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Does Marc still participate in marijuana smoking rituals?
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Is this the Marc Rosenburg that would be about 40 or so now...had dirty blond hair...a bit of a prominent nose...and a really strange voice...almost like he had no vocal chords?
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NO Marc has black grease hair, about 6 foot2, and has a big mouth you could hear for miles. And hes a skinny fuck, looks like a crack head.
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I could picture him now, Feeling Froggy? His name should be Dick On A Stick. ::both::