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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: wesfager on November 05, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
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Over one year ago Ray Bradbury stuck his slim neck out big time in the matter of offering for sale on eBay the penis pump that once belonged to Straight founder Ambassador Melvin Sembler, AO. He says he wanted to bring attention to the survivors of Straight. Well, the ad got the ambassador's attention and he and Betty sued. And that got the attention of the Washington Post as well as many other news media.
Lenny Englander, Sembler's attorney, was asking for immediate discovery but I think it must have dawned on him that once Bradbury is deposed Mel and Betty must be too. And while Lenny may say there is no reason to Bradbury's action, that's what discovery is about and hopefully, that will be for a jury to decide.
Mr. Sembler did you use your political clout to keep Straight open in 1989 even though state officials were trying to close it because it was abusing American children? Mr. Sembler, when did you and Betty first learn of child abuse at Straight and what actions did you take to stop the abuse? Do you include former Straight graduate and former president of Cincinnati Seventh Step Club Jeff Leugers among your 12,000 successful graduates? He committed suicide you should know. And he's not the only one.
We suspect today's hearing is really a big deal.
Wes Fager
[ This Message was edited by: wesfager on 2004-11-05 10:44 ]
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It was great. Rich won on all accounts. The Semblers were told by the Judge to answer the questions posed by Richard's attorney. The judge didn't seem too sympathetic to the Sembler's reaons for not answering the questionis posed by Rich's attorney.
A big bonus for today was that I visited ole Satan Newton himself. GOt a pic of his house, showing the address adn the license plate of their car. While I was there, Miller himself got in his car and drove by. I waved and smiled and asked nicely if he was Miller Newton. He acknowledge that he was adn I then lit into him, asking him how could he call himself a priest. I called him a worthless fuck and told him my name so he would remember it.
Another great thing was that turkey buzzard's were circling his house. Very appropriate. I think I'll pay him another visit before I head home.
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go kpickle! ::birthday:: party on with your fun self!
::drummer::
I'm dedicating the next ten minutes of drunken dancing to you!
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I'm loving that all of this is taking place on the day before the anniversary of my intake 22 years ago. Way to go! :tup:
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oh yeah, one more fun thing. After the hearing, I took a picture of Englander's assistant attorney (she snapped at me "I didn't give you permission to take my picture") I told her, "not only have I taken your picture, I'm gonna put it on the internet and let people know you represent child abusers" I then asked her "how could you represent child abusers and what would your mother say to you" I then jumped in the elevator with her to "talk" her all the way to her car. She got out of the elevator, got the balif to escort her. He asked me not to say anything else to her, which I obliged (after all he is a law officer and I don't pick my battles with them), although, I did follow her to her car adn educated the balif on the horrors of straight. He smiled, clapped me on the back and wished me luck. He was a really nice guy.
It was a beautiful day. I felt a small bit vindicated for sure that day.
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Tom ate your fucking lunch. It was beautiful. We know that you are sending your asst. attorney out to dry for your misdeeds. But, I'm not suprised, that is about par for you and oyour kind. See you after the two weeks you have to respond to McGowen/Rich's questions. I'll be in the court room when there are more hearings. I expect you to attend. Looks bad to the judge when you don't even bother to show up. And, the next picture I take will be of you. It too will be on the internet. [ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2004-11-06 05:03 ]
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bmp to the top
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I'm smoking 10 bong hits in Kpickle's honor! Then I'll drink a few beers, toasting Richard and his lawyers! Cool, cool, cool!
Kpickle, I like your style. I think it's great that you harshed on the cunt that was working for Sembler, that's fucking golden! And "confronting" Virgil is something that all of us should do frequently. Kudos to you!
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::hehehmm::
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Pathetic. Look how you've allowed these programs to CONSUME you all these years later. YOU who hang on are the only ones to blame for your sad and lonely lives.
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On 2004-11-07 14:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Pathetic. Look how you've allowed these programs to CONSUME you all these years later. YOU who hang on are the only ones to blame for your sad and lonely lives."
:roll: And what may I ask you is YOUR payoff for being such an asshole here. Why even take the time and comment, what the hell is it to you? Are you working for Melvin - possibly some kind of yes-man???
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On 2004-11-07 14:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Pathetic. Look how you've allowed these programs to CONSUME you all these years later. YOU who hang on are the only ones to blame for your sad and lonely lives."
yo, clueless, we are PARTYING because kpickle, wes and bradbury are freaking monkeywrenching and OBVIOUSLY puttin in the torque right where it SMARTS BUT GOOD ON YOU! ::birthday:: ::hatter::
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Were the Slimeblers actually AT the hearing, or just Englander's assistant?
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Neither Mel nor Betty appeared in court, nor did Englander. He let his asst attorney show up and represent Sembler. She did a very crappy job.
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It really was pretty comical. I started calling her Tangina....she reminded me of the tiny lady from Poltergeist. She REALLY hates to have her picture taken. :lol: :lol: It was fun to watch her try to dance around issues and sidetrack the case only to have the judge appear irritated and rule against her on most of the issues. Wonder if Lenny realizes this is gonna get ugly and he's sending out the sacrificial lamb. :lol: :lol:
How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate, they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.
George Orwell, 1984
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On 2004-11-07 14:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Pathetic. Look how you've allowed these programs to CONSUME you all these years later. YOU who hang on are the only ones to blame for your sad and lonely lives."
Go nibble on a turd. :roll:
(http://http://www.alsoftware.com.br/adrianpage/parodius/manual/turd.gif)
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On 2004-11-08 10:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-11-07 14:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Pathetic. Look how you've allowed these programs to CONSUME you all these years later. YOU who hang on are the only ones to blame for your sad and lonely lives."
Go nibble on a turd. :wave:
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I too was there. The assistant that Englander sent on his behalf was totally unprepared for what was to transpire. Once she realized that there were 11 to 14 points to address, she immediately tried a continuance based on the fact that she had only 4 hours to prepare. Boo fucking Hoo, the judge would not allow it and bit into the facts like a redneck on a hotdog at a Buccaneer's football game. She reminded me of a full of shit oldcomer that had locked her newcomer alone in the bedroom so she could watch t.v. only to discover that the newcomer found a way to split out the bedroom window. It was priceless. The main bone of contention with the judge was that the Semblers had claimed "pain and suffering and emotional duress," yet refused to present any viable evidence to support the claim. Hell, Sembler even owned an Eckerd Drug store chain, lock, stock, and barrel that would surely have records of any and all medication prescribed for the hag of a wife and his "suffering."
The judge did not buy any of this. I don't know about the rest of those in attendance, but I did notice that he seemed to know quite a bit more about the circumstances surrounding this whole Pump Gate issue. At least 3 times he used court room jargon to elude to the fact that Sembler had provided Ray Bradbury with a more deeper and complex motive for his actions concerning the add placed on E-Bay.
I watched with glee as K-pickle snapped frame after frame of the clueless bitch of an attorney that had appeared so smug just an hour and a half previously. She freaked to no end and when she went to get the Bailiff, I was briefly scared for the pickleman, but it was just a desperate attempt on her part to try and maintain a little smidgen of dignity. I did not take part in the Newton festivities, because in all fairness, Newton came onto the scene long after I had left Straight and I really had no lawful reason to harass him. At the same time, I know he is a true dick in the mouth in every sense of the word, but without Dave Crock, Helen Petermann, Jim Hartz, Laura Morgan, and the evil minions of my era, I just cant place a target for my anger on him. Miller Newton is a pathetic old man who could'nt get it up with the help of Fred Flintstones Brontosaurus Crane.
In closing, the facts were presented in the best possible form, there is no getting around it, and the Semblers were revealed for what the are............a couple of Worms. So now we all are waiting..........for the worms to come out from their hiding. God Bless Roger Waters
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::cheers::
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what every bad worm must face: the anthelmintic
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Well I guess that this whole penis pump thing was for real then..
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Right you are Frod!!! The judge made several references to the "device" that was taken and put up for auction on Ebay. Hmmmmmmmm who was that that said it never happened. Funny, he doesn't seem to have much to say anymore. :rofl: :rofl:
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Would it be too wierd (or obscure) for some supporters to show up at the next hearing sporting Austin Powers gear? (buttons, trading cards, screen shots of the penis pump scene?) Naaah, to frivolous, risk of diminishing the seriousness of the whole business.
But what a way to make Sembler look like a clown!
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On 2004-11-09 05:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Right you are Frod!!! The judge made several references to the "device" that was taken and put up for auction on Ebay. Hmmmmmmmm who was that that said it never happened. Funny, he doesn't seem to have much to say anymore. :rofl: :rofl: "
Not to mention the abundance of apologies owed to all he has attacked and all he has verbally abused here for no reason except to feed his own mental illness.
Fuck him, he is a worm also. Always telling people to get off the couch and do something, and then alternately attacking the very people who are doing something. I think it is him sitting on a couch scowling at the world.
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It was me who made the last several comments. I am too afraid to post my name for some Very Real Fears that I have. I will continue to contradict myself and remain ANONYMOUS because I believe in the first and most important rule.
And again, there never was a penis pump to begin with!