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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 16, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
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Ken apparently has notified all of us that he has moved his relating table to another link or something like that. Well after clicking on it it seems that some adware/spyware was trying to install on my computer but stopped and terminated due to my protection program's on my pc.
Just thought I should warn everyone about what Zaretzky is up too. For those of you who don't know anything about adware/spyware, it would've enables Ken to spy on you and depending on what programs he uses been able to know what sites you visit and possible post's you make at message boards, " more advanced spyware".
So basically what I am saying, Ken does not care, he wants to stalk all that come to his site.
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I'm sure he isn't on the FBI payroll. I think it is an AOL issue.
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On 2004-09-16 10:16:00, Llahsram wrote:
"I'm sure he isn't on the FBI payroll. I think it is an AOL issue."
FBI payroll? What planet are you from? Do you even know what spyware is ? I think not. do some research on it and get a understanding of it. Spyware is not an FBI thing nor AOL.
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Well do you really think Ken cares that much who looks at his site?? I don't know Ken, spoke to him once or twice about problems I was having posting on ElanAlum.com. But I know he makes no money for ElanAlum.com, actually he loses money, cause it costs him money to keep it running. So he has a career, between that and a family do you really think he has time to worry about what websites for Elan grads look at?? Do you think he even cares?
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right on bears fan! ken is cool, fuck all the haters.
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There is nothing about mention of hatred for Ken in here, there is a caution about what he is doing at his site secretly from us. I discovered adware/spyware attempting to load on my PC and it was caught and destroyed. The question should be is why would Ken want to track people that visit his site?
DL and purchase a really good anti adware/spyware program, you will see what I am talking about.
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I had 3 of my friends who are computing science majors look at it nothing there.
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On 2004-09-17 04:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-09-16 10:16:00, Llahsram wrote:
"I'm sure he isn't on the FBI payroll. I think it is an AOL issue."
FBI payroll? What planet are you from? Do you even know what spyware is ? I think not. do some research on it and get a understanding of it. Spyware is not an FBI thing nor AOL."
D o - Y o u - k n o w - w h a t - a - j o k e - i s ? GENIUS? If you actually went on the site, Ken explained how to turn it off. It only affects AOL users! Why would anyone ever want to SPY on strangers. :idea: It seems like it would be rather time consuming. Not to mention boring and uninteresting. Find a hobby, Please! Just try to stay away from mystery solving and you might do okay.
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On 2004-09-17 20:53:00, Llahsram wrote:
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On 2004-09-17 04:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-09-16 10:16:00, Llahsram wrote:
"I'm sure he isn't on the FBI payroll. I think it is an AOL issue."
FBI payroll? What planet are you from? Do you even know what spyware is ? I think not. do some research on it and get a understanding of it. Spyware is not an FBI thing nor AOL."
D o - Y o u - k n o w - w h a t - a - j o k e - i s ? GENIUS? If you actually went on the site, Ken explained how to turn it off. It only affects AOL users! Why would anyone ever want to SPY on strangers. :idea: It seems like it would be rather time consuming. Not to mention boring and uninteresting. Find a hobby, Please! Just try to stay away from mystery solving and you might do okay."
Do I know what a joke is? Yes I sure do, but anything coming from your mouth is considered down right stupidity. Keeping your son in a school that has a history of abuse is a prime example. Besides that there were a handful of people that don't like you here and I am one of them.
As far as the poster that said they know someone in computer science and deemed there was nothing present at Zaretzky's site, what program and test's did you perform? Sorry but cheap adware/spyware programs wont detect it, you need a program that is far more advanced.
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I really don't care if you don't like me. I wasn't looking for a friend. Exspecially a bigot like you, who choses not to like people for reasons that are not their business. Do you hate the Jewish because in their homeland they kill others for religion? Get a grip on your life and stop critizing me please. I did what I had to an don't regret it for a moment! My son is home with me and happy to have his diploma. So, MYOB.
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What the hell does hating the Jewish people have anything to do with this topic? Liasshram or what ever you call yourself, get lost, you are like that annoying little knat that wont leave you online on a picnic.
Are you capable to sticking to a topic in it's proper forum? I don't think so.
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Hateing me because I sent my son to elan, is the same as hating jews for the wrongdoings of others of the same belief. It could be Christians, Americans or Musulums. I sent my child to a place that I BELIEVE was a better place than he was, SO YOU DON'T LIKE ME. That is a sad reason.Do you hate every parent who ever sent their child to elan? Most people don't like others because they hurt them, have different personalties, an arguement, things like that. You don't like someone because of where their kid went to school? Wow! You have BIG worries. Do you dislike your neighbors because the don't drive the car you like too?
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I find it quit strange that a parent that has a kid that was currently enrolled at Elan join this forum and continue to leave their kid there.
For 1 this fornits elan board's members consist of all former resident's that hate Elan and disagree with how the place was run.
2nd everyone that has posted here has stated and told their hoddible experinces and the abuse that followed with it.
Then you come along and decide to join and keep your kid enrolled at that place despite all the negative exposure that has been let out of the bag over here.
This site is mostly an anti elan site and everyone that frequents this site has had something bad to say about Elan.
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On 2004-09-18 18:14:00, Llahsram wrote:
Do you dislike your neighbors because the don't drive the car you like too?
Oh my god! Are you seriously trying to compare taste in cars w/ paying someone to torture your own child??
WTF! I think I liked it better when Nazi was geeing the place up w/ racial slurs and profanity. At least he knew it was a joke!Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy
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On 2004-09-18 19:48:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2004-09-18 18:14:00, Llahsram wrote:
Do you dislike your neighbors because the don't drive the car you like too?
Oh my god! Are you seriously trying to compare taste in cars w/ paying someone to torture your own child??
WTF! I think I liked it better when Nazi was geeing the place up w/ racial slurs and profanity. At least he knew it was a joke!Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy
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Antigen she doesn't quite have all of her marbel's together in one spot.
BTW Antigen, I would like to talk to you via email if possible, Shall I email you @ your profile address?
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I am just responding to being attacked. Why does he (badhead) or ANYONE else have a problem with the fact that my son wasn't abused? They were good to him. Especially Missy. Because a kid didn't have a horrfic time, like people did from earlier times, does that make us bad people? Is this guy so angry with life he feels the need to pick on ME? Will he not be happy unless we find someone to spit on him (my son), beat him up, or wear a tampon on his head? I don't get it? Did he want to see my son abused? It's not going to happen pal, so you may continue to beat youself up instead. He seems to get pleasure from insulting others from under the brown bag.
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On 2004-09-18 19:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I find it quit strange that a parent that has a kid that was currently enrolled at Elan join this forum and continue to leave their kid there.
For 1 this fornits elan board's members consist of all former resident's that hate Elan and disagree with how the place was run.
2nd everyone that has posted here has stated and told their hoddible experinces and the abuse that followed with it.
My son is no longer there! Had I known ANYTHING about abuse, he NEVER would have gone! I hired an attorney because our public school was allowing him to fail and could not give him the help he needed. This was how I found out about elan. I was desperate, because it is hard to find a school that will take a kid that threatens to runaway. I needed him to be in New England so I was close by and could stop in when I wanted. I found this website 7 weeks before he graduated. There is plenty about that school that I hate, but I try to focus on the positive and move on. There seems to be no one in charge to complain to either. My son said the kids are not even allowed to touch each other, such as a pat on the back. This must stem from the abuse that the older people talk about. My son was one of the lucky ones.
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Damn kids! Lets all take a deep breath (not out of a glue filled bag Art!)
The topic began having something to do with Ken Zaretsky and an alleged spy program that sees everything about you that you dont want anyone to know...all through your computer!
Listen, unless you're running an ancient version of windows and havnt firewalled your connection..spyware isnt a real threat. I dont think Ken is remotely interested in anyone who visits the site who has nothing to say. Who has time to worry about this sort of shit anyway? Do you even care if Ken can see your IP when you go there to collect gossip to spew about in here?
Fuck theres some idiots in this site.
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THANK YOU! That was the point I was trying to make from the start. Then I got attacked. Why would Ken want to spy on us. There are far more interesting things to do.
Does someone think he will try to steal our personal information? Go figure. I think he has better things to do. Also, I don't think Art has even posted here so it must be the other guy with his head in the glue bag. Art is polite.
I said before, Ken stated that it is an aol issue.
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Wow this topic went all kinds of nutty.
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"Listen, unless you're running an ancient version of windows and havnt firewalled your connection..spyware isnt a real threat. "
Spyware can easily by-pass a firewall and can be leached onto your system, that is why there are programs called anti-spyware.Spyware is simply a way too allow the perp to see where you surf the web and in some advances versions of it see what you do at other sites.
Definitions of Spyware on the Web:
A general term for a program that surreptitiously monitors your actions. While they are sometimes sinister, like a remote control program used by a hacker, software companies have been known to use spyware to gather data about customers. The practice is generally frowned upon.
A technology that assists in gathering information about a person or organization without their knowledge. On the Internet, "spyware is programming that is put in someone's computer to secretly gather information about the user and relay it to advertisers or other interested parties." As such, spyware is cause for public concern about privacy on the Internet.
This is also known as "adware". It is a hidden software program that transmits user information via the Internet to advertisers in exchange for free downloaded software. The Specialty Alliance Corporation? does NOT use Spyware in any form or fashion, or will do business with companies that do.
There are concerns that some Web sites and commercial organisations track users' online activity through the use of what is called ?spyware'. Usually coming in the form of ?cookies' - these enable the cookie writer to build-up information about what you do and where you go on the Web. Software is available that checks for and removes spyware.
Software that tracks usage and reports it to others, such as advertisers Usually the tracking is concealed from the user of the software.
So do you still think it is not a threat or something important to be concerned about?
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I run win xp pro. Connect through digital cable, firewalled. All ports are stealthed. I surf with mozilla firefox. No spyware software, no adware software, no antivirus software either. Never had a pop-up, never has a third party cookie or program been installed, and my computer doesnt respond to pings, ever.
There isnt a monkey out there that can jump on my PCs back and the only thing youll ever be able to tell me is my OS, my browser, and my spoofed IP.
Big deal.
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On 2004-09-19 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I run win xp pro. Connect through digital cable, firewalled. All ports are stealthed. I surf with mozilla firefox. No spyware software, no adware software, no antivirus software either. Never had a pop-up, never has a third party cookie or program been installed, and my computer doesnt respond to pings, ever.
There isnt a monkey out there that can jump on my PCs back and the only thing youll ever be able to tell me is my OS, my browser, and my spoofed IP.
Big deal. "
Go DL a good anti-spyware program and run a scan, let see how well your so called "Great" firewall has done protecting you. Let's see if you still sing the same tune?
Then again I'm sure you will make up some little lie about how clean your system is and that it was protected from any spyware.
I have news for you, stealthed ports mean nothing to spyware.It is you going to a webpage that where this spyware finds you.Sure you can update your firewall and browser but most firewall's and browser's will not protect you against spyware unless they come equipped with anti-spyware.
But if you don't belive me just go about your business on the web, but keep in mind you are not alone out there.
I did'nt start this forum to brag about how much programs I have and what I have and how much it cost's, I'm not about that.Yes i too have a very great firewall yadda yadda yadda, but my very great firewall did not stop spyware simply because I did not have the proper program from doing so.
For future reference, if you ever noticed your PC running much slower then it normally does, don't rule out you might not have spyware installed without your knowledge, this shit happens and it happens everyday.
Thats why it is strongly recommended to scan for updates on everything you run on a daily basis, right now some hacker is creating a hacking tool what have you to penetrate both mine and your firewall, soon it will be detected and an update will be aval to us.
Firewalls protect you from intruders and hackers, not from spyware unless they come equiped with it. I would definately look into seeing if your firwall has a anti-spyware program built into it.
And another thing, some freebie pop up ads do work well but others don't.
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"There isnt a monkey out there that can jump on my PCs back and the only thing youll ever be able to tell me is my OS, my browser, and my spoofed IP"
Spoofed ip??? kindly expalin your meaning of this.