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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: future.air on August 09, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
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places I remember - (Not sure if I went anywhere else? in over a year)
Hardee's
Hoffman Boston
Sprinfield Mall
Girl's side
5th phasers I remember
Laura F.
Amy S.
Heather N.
Farrah S.
Kathy
misbehavers (saving us from the monotony)
Jamie U.
Robin S.
Mary M.
Kendall (I saw her last year in Virginia B)
Hoffman Boston people
Mike M. (funny)
Mike K. -think he had a brother (hilarious)
Steve C.
Kyle H.
Spencer H.
Gina F.
can't remember many names of guys
Staff
Steve T
Robs (both of them -dark and blonde hair)
Alicia (stonewashed jeans and clarks)
Glenn
Shane
Red haired woman with big glasses and funny teeth
(exceptionally scary)
Melissa
Amy S.
If you too survived this windowless warehouse and remember these people please raise your hand.
[ This Message was edited by: future.air on 2004-08-11 05:23 ][ This Message was edited by: future.air on 2004-08-25 07:59 ]
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Kelly U ( ran away while we down at her parents for her 4th phase visit)
Nikki L
Nikki S
Tar and her twin
April B. (boycooted by my mom never to come back to our house)
Michelle
Stacey ( had epilepsy)
Stacy K ( from Maryland)
Big fat black man that looked kinda like a panda bear and had outrageously long pinky nails
I remember the sickly yellow "tan" from the lights
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Future.Air,
Did you by chance transfer to the Atlanta Straight with the group from Virginia? Your name sounds familiar. Anyway I could be wrong.
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Hi.
No. I stayed in Springfield the whole time. Although, I do remember some kids getting sent to Atlanta for some reason or another.
Maybe James Dougherty?
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He was from Boston right? I remember his accent.
Scott D. May 1988- Nov. 1989
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yup. I think he was overage, court-ordered.
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BTW, Aaron Cohen said hello to you
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Hi. I'm pretty sure I remember both you and Aaron.
It's good to hear from you. Are you both still living in the DC area?
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Just remembered another staff member name ....
Bradee Minnik. Also, Jasun Harrus. I think he was a staff member??
I spelled the names by pronunciation instead of correctly so as not to breach confidentiality. (the google search arguement on one of the other posts)
There was also a married couple. Pale funny guy with light red hair and a mustache and woman with long dark hair she looked like Amy Share it ,
Also Dion and Dante...they always got called on.[ This Message was edited by: future.air on 2004-08-12 20:29 ]
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I lived in Pa ever since I left Straight and Aaron just moved back to Pa in July....we were both from here originally but met in Straight and been good friends ever since. How have you been??? Really sorry to hear about Glenn. When I found out about it about a year ago from on here ....it really screwed with my head and saddened me deeply. I suppose you heard Jessica Friday passed away recently? I stayed in contact with her on and off to through out the years. I was glad to get in contact with Gina from this forum too. I hope you are doing okay......in NY now?
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And I remember Mike M. and your name sounds real familiar...just can't put a face to it.
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Hi Kecia,
I remember that. Since I found this website a couple months ago I've been slowly recovering memories from that time of my life.
I visited Classmates.com in an attempt to understand my past and realized my "classmates" were really all the people I sat in blue plastic chairs with in Springfield. We were taught some pretty sick shit, especially for already troubled teenagers.
How are you and have you kept in touch with Mike M.? Are you still haunted by that experience?
Elizabeth
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That was me, I forgot to log in.
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Do you know whatever happened to Dave and Barb Fre.? Or eric Mil.?
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On 2004-08-12 20:48:00, Scott D wrote:
"I lived in Pa ever since I left Straight and Aaron just moved back to Pa in July....we were both from here originally but met in Straight and been good friends ever since. How have you been??? Really sorry to hear about Glenn. When I found out about it about a year ago from on here ....it really screwed with my head and saddened me deeply. I suppose you heard Jessica Friday passed away recently? I stayed in contact with her on and off to through out the years. I was glad to get in contact with Gina from this forum too. I hope you are doing okay......in NY now?"
Hi Scott,
Thanks for asking about me. I'm doing pretty well. I recently finished graduate school and have been painting full time. You can check out my website but it's heavy on the flash so difficult to view on all computers.
http://www.elizabethhuey.com/ (http://www.elizabethhuey.com/)
I have some good friends here and my work is doing well. I've had six shows in New York in the past year, some valuable press and the paintings are selling. That's awesome.
But my relationship with my boyfriend is difficult. When I get really close to someone I'm still plagued by demons that seemed to take residence in my soul during those 2 years in Straight.
They usually don't come out until I experience some level of love and safety. It is very confusing and frightening. I am seeing a therapist here but sometimes I'm not sure if she totally understands. Finding this site has been pretty incredible for me.
Have you experienced any ramifications from your stay at Straight?
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I've wondered about Dave and Barbara? But I don't know. I heard Eric M. lived in Maryland and had a landscaping business with Trevor after his divorce from Melissa J. but I'm not sure.
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Glad to hear that your work and art is going well. To answer your question about things going nuts a s a possible result of Straight.....well with the relationship thing I certainly feel that Straight didn't really help much....I am divorced about to marry again though. It's tough I have gone thru therapy and still have issues that I need to keep in check. I think relationships are hard to begin with and then with straight shit tied into our heads still if gets all fucked up. It has gotten better over the years and I continue to learn and seek help daily, but its nothing like it used to be.
I am glad that you posted as I love reconnecting with people that I was in there with. You graduated while I was on 4th or 5th then went on staff when I graduated. I think you and John F. actually set me back or sat me in group while on 5th. for something that had nothing to w/ me.LOL Anyhow, its a trip looking back on all that shit.
I am just glad that you are doing well now as Aaron and I often wondered how you were years after the Straight Cell. Shoot me a email or give me a call if ya want.[ This Message was edited by: Scott D on 2004-08-14 13:57 ]
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Hey Elizabeth, I checked out your website,very dynamic work. I am always glad to see peoples dreams come true, congratulations.
I spoke with Mike M. about three months ago after not hearing from him for about five years. We were together for about a year and a half. He used again and has stayed that way...he is really struggling, it is very sad to me.
I was definately affected by my straight experience. I think the biggest struggle I have is with emotional boundaries. Contrary to what we were taught, it isn't necessary to tell everyone, every single thought you are having or have ever had. I feel that I was spared the major personality altering trauma because I was overage and figured out how to use a tiny bit of common sense when I was there. I seriously screwed up in my relationships. Eventually, I ended up marrying someone else from straight. Geoffrey A..he was there 1/87-12/88. We have been married for 7 years now and it gets better every year. I have had a lot of success in my life since straight but it wasn't easy and it wasn't immediate. I had to "de programme" for sure.
Be well... Kecia[ This Message was edited by: Sophie on 2004-10-28 14:35 ]
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Hi Kecia,
I'm curious. How have you deprogrammed? Has it been beneficial to be in a relationship with someone who also survived the experience? I remember Jeff Adams although people's faces are a little hazy. Congratulations on your marriage!!
You can email me if it's too personal to answer questions on the board.
Oh, also, thanks for checking out my website and for the compliments on my paintings. It will be updated soon. [ This Message was edited by: future.air on 2004-08-16 20:52 ]
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I went to another program, a TBS called CEDU. I often look at this site because you seem to be very supportive group who analyze your experiences and learn from them. (Sometimes it seems like a spew page over at our site.)
I never spoke of my experiences (15 years ago)at the TBS until I came to this forum a few months ago. I never allowed myself to.
What I am interested in figuring out is how these programs affect your relationships because I'm trying to figure out what is pre-CEDU and post-CEDU baggage. On one hand, I over relate. On another, I have great difficulty being emotionally intimate and trusting anybody and I wasn't like that pre-CEDU. I also, while not overtly defiant in any way or troublesome, absolutely cannot tolerate rules very well... or my significant other telling me what to do in any way shape or form.
Is this normal facet of people who have been in these programs?
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I do identify with everything you are talking about.
I can share intimate aspects of my life pretty easily until I get close and there is a mutual exchange of love. Then my old Straight thinking kicks in.
I begin having a very difficult time feeling comfortable with space in a relationship or privacy. These are healthy, normal aspects of relating to people but I Still suffer from anxiety and fear when my boyfriend needs space.
I need alot of time alone but sometimes I don't even register when I need it. I end up causing fights. I believe that claustrophobic, no space, no privacy and absolutely no trust was all accompanied by a cheerful children's song, a "group hug", and an I love you.
This for me went on non-stop, 24 hours, for almost 2 years of my life. Serious full-time pseudo parenting.
Before Straight, I was not connected to my family at all. I actually did connect with some people in Straight so I paid attention to there actions carefully and tried to emulate them.
This has been damaging to my relationships and I am working to identify these ideas and reprogram myself to see they are unhealthy and don't work.
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i Was reading your post and noticed many familier names I was a Classic mis behavior along with john ferraro, curt siler etc.
I remember Hardies,and woodbridge where I was held as a 1st phaser.
I remember Trevor Millikin, And Elizabeth johnson,rob frye eric johnson,glen stepleton amoung others
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i remember john ferraro and curt and eric ahern. hung out a little with eric and john after i got out.
have you heard anything from them?
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I remember a lot of the people mentioned here. Spencer H graduated from the VA Beach facility. Never saw her again. Rumor had it that she was full of it and got high to celebrate her graduation pretty much the day she graduated! :smile: She'll forever have my respect for that one, being able to pull the wool over the staff and group's collective eyes. That's more impressive than misbehaving, if you ask me.
Lynn G. You didn't mention her, but she was from the Springfield program initially and graduated from Va Beach. She was on staff for a while and then moved on.
Tish W. Red headed, crazy ass girl. Lots of stories to tell here. Not enough time!
Kendall was in Va Beach on Staff. Wasn't as harsh as some of the others. She left not too long after the Va Beach Straight opened.
Dave H, Steve C. were on staff in Va Beach. Came and went on and off staff. Never got to know either. Jeff S. was also on staff for a while. Glenn S was on Staff and his story has be well noted here, quite a shock to me, to be completely honest. That guy seemed to really like himself. RIP.
Steve T. Hated this guy on staff. He was THE most intimidating staffer ever. He'd rip a person to shreds. Others would take status. Steve T would take dignity. Hated that guy with a passion.
Rob W. Red head guy. Very odd person. Very unpredictable. Hated to be in his rap when he was smiling. That was a horrible feeling b/c you just knew he was about to spring a trap.
Shane H. Though I am Shane H also, there was another Shane that was absolutely crazy. People just loved the guy for it, even staff.
T. Hoffman come to mind?
Jason P?
I could go on forever. I haven't thought of these people in quite some time.
Shane
Girl's side
5th phasers I remember
Laura F.
Amy S.
Heather N.
Farrah S.
Kathy
misbehavers (saving us from the monotony)
Jamie U.
Robin S.
Mary M.
Kendall (I saw her last year in Virginia B)
Hoffman Boston people
Mike M. (funny)
Mike K. -think he had a brother (hilarious)
Steve C.
Kyle H.
Spencer H.
Gina F.
can't remember many names of guys
Staff
Steve T
Robs (both of them -dark and blonde hair)
Alicia (stonewashed jeans and clarks)
Glenn
Shane
Red haired woman with big glasses and funny teeth
(exceptionally scary)
Melissa
Amy S.
If you too survived this windowless warehouse and remember these people please raise your hand.
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Shane, when were you in there again?
I remember so many of the people you mention.
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Alicia P.? She was like my best friend/oldcomer. I cared alot for her and her mom. Her Mom even wrote me letters after I was withdrawn. She was on staff later? Funny if it was her , we met 2 yrs later at the Hardees.I hope she didn't feel bad aboutthat if she were on staff.
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Hey Withdraw,
I am wondering if I know you... I knew Alicia P. during my stay and I think she did a short time on staff after she finished. I knew a few of the Robinson crowd and hung out with her on many occasions after getting out. In fact, I remember going to see the Dead at RFK in Summer of '89 with her and a couple of other former POW's. Send me an e-mail if you remember me...
Aloha,
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On 2004-08-14 10:54:00, future.air wrote:
"I remember that. Since I found this website a couple months ago I've been slowly recovering memories from that time of my life.
I visited Classmates.com in an attempt to understand my past and realized my "classmates" were really all the people I sat in blue plastic chairs with in Springfield. We were taught some pretty sick shit, especially for already troubled teenagers."
Hey Elizabeth,
I know I remember you now. Amazing how we have flashbacks of incidents when we hear names. I was reading the name Melissa J. and then somehow remembered you. I believe you came in towards the end of my stay. By that time, I was one of the "ranking" members in group. By that I mean I was one of the people who had been there for long enough that other long time "students", (as you referred to them), knew what I had been through. I think sometimes the longer you were in there, the harder it became. Having to come up with new stories to "share", all the while knowing the game and what the rules were. Sweating it out on Friday night reviews...
I'm glad to hear you are doing well in NYC. I lived big city life for quite some time, now I live in a much mellower place, and I am enjoying life to the fullest. I hope you are enjoying life and from the looks of your website, I would say things are good for you.
Live Aloha every day!
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Brent that reminds me:
Often I would be exhausted sitting in that place. Never got enough sleep. Well, I happen to know a little about reproductive physiology now, and how when one sleeps, the parasympatheitic nervous system becomes dominant and causes certain uncontrollable functions to occur, no matter how inappropriate or untimley they may be.
I think you all understand what I mean when I say that a certain thing occured beyond my control, that can only happen to a pubescent male, just as I was asked by Chase to stand up and relate to someone about a serious past incident. Believe me, it was not an impressive site, but it was...embarrassing to say the least.
:eek:
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Well, I don't know why I am even writing this... I found Str8 Inc Alumni site about 2 years ago, and have been sorta freaked ever since.... If any of you remember me, you prolly hate me.
I'd like to know what you remember of me though... I remember only a few people as I was a misbehaver....
Anyhow, I found this, and since I was in from 8/89 - 4 or 5/ 90, I figured I should post....
I made a few connections, but don't know if they meant as much to them as me.
Elizabeth, you sound soooo familiar... I had a friend in school with the same last name, maybe that is why.
Someone recently said that I may have hit you, and everyone thought you were really nice, and to set the record str8, if I did I am sorry... I prolly owe lots of appologies , to a lot of peeps out there... Also, Elizabeth... I love your pics.... they are great... I showed my husband too... Well, it's like, if I could paint...lol...I'd prolly paint quite similarly. I love the 'period' so to say that they all evoke.... Not stuffy, Not boring, very real....hot, Very cool...
Anyhow, married, crazy :silly: , 3 kids (10, 12 boys, and 5 year old girl) , bachelors from Widener University, programmer (tech arch) for Accenture. Was a housewife for 6 years, but tht was driving me nuts.... and have just recently transitioned back to work.....Living in south Jersey, near DE.... Drive a green minivan,lol, and never have a babysitter.... and constantly thinking about this stuff... everyday, no matter if happy or not.... Str8 stuck to me hard....... (getting a sports car after a few more paychecks, lol)
I think I bumped into a girl named Mary, a couple years after Str8. She I beleive had black hair, and was a misbehaver too.... but sometimes pulled herself together to make it to 3rd or 4th phase. I'd love to speak to her....
I wonder what she thought when she saw me that night! She was walking into I guess her apt building with her parents, and I was walking in with a trick...lol...
I was very extreme after str8, but, come a long way on the outside since then.....
anyhow... I have pics on Str8 Inc Almuni
----http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Straight_Inc_Alumni/ -----
maybe it'll jog your memories.....
So, see ya in the next life.... if not this one.... :wave:
Kelly C.
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"I was walking in with a trick...lol... "
Whoa! Did I miss something? I thought you were a soccer-mom in the green mini-van and everything?!
Well, anyway, my wife Sophie probably knows you. Welcome. We've all got shit in our closets. :wave:
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Some of have skeletons in our closets...
Some of us have cemeteries... :lol:
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I ended up a hooker... .... years later walked in with a trick, and bumped into straightling...
Left that life in 93 when I found out I was pregnant, and yada yada yada....
MEt another loser, and stuck it out for a couple years, had another kid....
Left him...
went back to school, after having never gone back after 8th grade....
Aced all my classes, and met my current husband. Married 8/99....
And lets just say, the honeymoon is over....
Was the whole soccer mom.
The whold house wife thing.... Stuck in the house for toooo long I think....
Stayed at home and the whole shabang, faithful and all, til....
I am now a Programmer, doing Tech Arch for Accenture.... A FT employee, yes I have joined the rat race...
(what a pay cut...lol...)
I am reentering society right now really... for the first time.... I was institutionalized, and then lived in the undergraound (bowels of America), and then played housewife, afraid to leave the house and meet anyone... and am now..... Just now trying to be a part of regular life, outside my house....
At 30, and just now transitioning.... very weird...
Kelly
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I ended up a hooker... .... years later walked in with a trick, and bumped into straightling...
Left that life in 93 when I found out I was pregnant, and yada yada yada....
Let me guess....you didn't seven step, did you? :lol: