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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: PerfectStraightling on August 06, 2004, 01:35:00 PM
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I recently got an email from someone working with the straight kids documentary asking for my info again. She said that they were re-entering all their data on people and also asking if people are willing to be interviewed on camera. She also said to pass her email along to anyone else who I know that was in there so if you want me to send it to you send me a PM.
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I am very intrested in the documentry. It was sooo bad when I was there it is very hard to remember all the stuff....
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I am just like the one above me. It is hard to remember when you have tried to forget for 13 years...
I am intrested as long as this is not a scam...
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[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-09 14:13 ]
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From what I have heard about this, it is not a scam. You can ask them about it, I think they are open to talking with you about their intentions in making this.
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The guy making the doc is a ex-straightling. He split on one of his phases. Very good guy.
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I was told MCG got around the statute of limitations and that they were waiting for permission to move forward on the case. None of which was true in the least.
Luke Riffle is the genius behind this documentary. Seemingly. I spoke to him at length. He was never a 'phaser'. He was in Straight for three months and didn't get half of the shit you got or I got. He never moved up in phases.[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-10 21:23 ]
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Yeah, it is all just a vast conspiracy to screw with your head, animal. You see, we are all really evil straight staffers that, while still on Sembler's payroll have been hired to work on you.
The penis pump, not real. A forgery.
The lawyers, paid to get your hopes up and drop you like a fat teenage girl with pimples.
and the documentary, really a pro straight documentary writeen by Miller Newton.
You can't beat us, so Get with the program animal, or else you will continue to pay.
:wstupid:
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Animals, I told you what I was told. Maybe it wasn't true, but I didn't intentionally lie. So, lighten up man, things take time and maybe just maybe we will get those Semblers, et al. If not, then we just need to keep on keeping on and do the best we can. Relax and take a chill pill.
And, if you think I'm part of a "scam", then you obviously have no idea who I am. You know B, ever since I met you I have been nothing but nice to you. I don't deserve you meaness. Take your anger out on someone else.
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On 2004-08-10 14:22:00, animals all of us wrote:
Luke Riffle is the genius behind this documentary. Seemingly. I spoke to him at length. He was never a 'phaser'. He was in Straight for three months and didn't get half of the shit you got or I got. He never moved up He was in VA Straight, so he says.
Im afraid that you don't know what you are talking about. Luke's twin brother was in there with him, and ran away and killed himself. That is why he was only in there 3 mos and why he got more than his share of shit.
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Don't feed the trolls.[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-15 13:01 ]
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On 2004-08-10 15:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yeah, it is all just a vast conspiracy to screw with your head, animal. You see, we are all really evil straight staffers that, while still on Sembler's payroll have been hired to work on you.
The penis pump, not real. A forgery.
The lawyers, paid to get your hopes up and drop you like a fat teenage girl with pimples.
and the documentary, really a pro straight documentary writeen by Miller Newton.
You can't beat us, so Get with the program animal, or else you will continue to pay.
:wstupid: "
Shut your fucking hole coward. Your credibility is jack shit. Die plz....
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Thanks Ss. You get right to the point.
Integrity, integrity in writing too, has to do with following through, and being in some form or manner kind enough to share information when it is important and even necessary. That is all I was saying. Whether this is some paranoia of mine or whatever they want to call it, check their own busted head on the floor before they laugh at mine.[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-11 13:27 ]
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Most of the time when things fall through, it's just that, things fell through. People make assumptions, get their hopes up, fool themselves and pass that along w/o meaning any harm at all.
As to why Luke didn't tell you his connection, I could make a couple of guesses but I won't. You should ask him.I am sick unto death of obscure English towns that exist seemingly for the sole accommodation of these so-called limerick writers -- and even sicker of their residents, all of whom suffer from physical deformities and spend their time dismembering relatives at fancy dress balls.
--Editor of the Limerick Times
(Limerick, Ireland)
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sometimes people on this website yap their big mouths when they have no idea what they are talking about.
Luke, keep up the good effort and don't let people who for the most part havent done anything waiver your resolve to bring positive into what happened to your family. I applaude your effort and cannot wait to see the final result.
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[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-14 22:56 ]
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the reason some people do not trust you is this;
many people stumble upon this "fager" website.they are alone many many years outcast by their communities and schools for being in the programs and make a google websearch and discover this stuff about the program.then they contact someone in person to find help,usually one of the chronic 7stepping posters.so when you have been so many years alone with nobody to understand what you experienced in the program,then you talk on the phone and meet in person the other people,and find this board with so many people THEN THESE NEW FOUND 'FRIENDS' USE AND BETRAY YOU then you realize this whole website is bullshit.i have made these contact with these people who run this website and i met with them in person so that i can participate in protests and such.these guys are just a bunch of shit head 7steppers even today and can not be trusted.they will use you and then expose your real name on this board just to be a smart ass.i warn ANYBODY against telephoning or meeting anybody in person who represents themselves as 'ANTI STRAIGHT ACTIVISTS',they are fakes.the only good 7stepper,or ex-7stepper is a dead one!
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and also i like to add that this K PICKLE 39 is one such asshole who will be killed shortly.mr kpickle39,YOU KNOW WHO I AM so if you want to report my threats to the police you should do so very quickly before i kill you and your whore wife.
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Don't feed the trolls.[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-15 13:00 ]
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[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-08-17 17:27 ]
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For some reason your email address does not work? What is up with that?
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Ginger,
Could you pleas forward this death threat about Kpickle39 to the police. This should not be tollerated at all. Kpickle39 has done much for the cause. He doesen't deserve this.
VSP
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So lets revisit this thread since Luke the Duke cant seem to tell anyone a dam thing....Im thinking Farce Im thinking another pimple on the butt of life irritating people so they scratch and it can pop and fester and turn into a infection such as straight was. If he interviewed talked to and had people relive their experiences only to raise their hopes of being heard and then dropped the ball he is no better than the psychopaths that began straight
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Dont' worry about it cuz. If he does do it, then that's cool. He doesn't owe anyone anything. He may very well be doing it, he may not.
However, I am with you on the latter suggestion. It has been our full experience here that many people on this site have indubidly been well intended about their intended intentions of intending to intend to do something worthwhile when they want to think of intending to intend to do it. You get me.
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On 2004-11-12 17:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
You get me.
I do.Understand that legal and illegal are political, and often arbitrary,
categorizations; use and abuse are medical, or clinical, distinctions.
--Abbie Hoffman
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On 2004-08-22 13:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ginger,
Could you pleas forward this death threat about Kpickle39 to the police. This should not be tollerated at all. Kpickle39 has done much for the cause. He doesen't deserve this.
VSP"
Erh... no. If KPickle is that worried about it, I'll do what I can/have to to help sort things out. But this is just not a place where COCs are generated. Dig?
In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws.
--Martin Luther King
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but I'm not worried.
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So, I was referring to the thing about the film, obviously...not the death threat against picklez there. I didn't know anyone had it in for him. I hope noone attempts to kill him, he's awful cute and red headed. Why he married that slut and not me is beyond anyone's fathomic ponderings. lol.
Gin, do you really 'get me'? Or are you still gonna send me that letter you got from Mel's attorney as you said you would? More nice intentions?
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On 2004-11-14 15:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, I was referring to the thing about the film, obviously...not the death threat against picklez there. I didn't know anyone had it in for him. I hope noone attempts to kill him, he's awful cute and red headed. Why he married that slut and not me is beyond anyone's fathomic ponderings. lol.
Gin, do you really 'get me'? Or are you still gonna send me that letter you got from Mel's attorney as you said you would? More nice intentions?"
::troll::
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On 2004-11-14 20:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-11-14 15:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So, I was referring to the thing about the film, obviously...not the death threat against picklez there. I didn't know anyone had it in for him. I hope noone attempts to kill him, he's awful cute and red headed. Why he married that slut and not me is beyond anyone's fathomic ponderings. lol.
Gin, do you really 'get me'? Or are you still gonna send me that letter you got from Mel's attorney as you said you would? More nice intentions?"
:wstupid: ::troll::
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So let me get this straight (pardon the pun).
This guy was full of shit concerning the movie? all he did was set up a misleading web page and wasted our time?
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It looks that way. And let me tell you that if this is in fact the case, his days are numbered.. ::stab::
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So, let me get this straight.
You assumed that someone said that Riffle said he was not making the movie. When I look back over the post; I see that noone has said this.
With the facts that have been presented Luke seems unsure about what he's doing. The movie was 'supposed' to be done last year, he came to Saint Petersburg to get some nookie - masked as 'interviews', and he told me he had alot more interviews and testimonies, alot more, than what he actually did and what he posted early on.
Again, like I say before - people can intend something and tell you they are going to do it, but that is different than actually doing it. I'm sure he means well, but he also does not have the means and the wherewithall to do this task. This is because his prior film production company he was hoping to exploit - FIRED HIM!! If I were hoping to create this kind of movie like that I would certainly never tell you I was doing it, unless you had some nookie or ass for me. hmm.
I could really give a damm if he does make a fucking movie about something that happened so long ago and will never make it into court because all the people who abused children are being highly rewarded for it. Go film that!, riffle. But, if for some chance in hell people actually give him a chance to make this shit, I'll pay the five bucks to go see it. Oh wait, its free for me since I work in a theatre.
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Also, that stupid fucking FREE website that Riffle made was very very little more than contact information created on an ad site for FREE and it only took him about ten minutes or less to make the shit. Now is this really a 'website', as you called it???
Your calling his contact information, available on a free use web server, reminds me of how several people passed along the rumor that - Morgan Collin and Gilbert - had taken commited to our class action lawsuit and gotten around the statute of limitations.
This lie pissed off alot of people. So before you go saying there was some fucking full on WEBSITE that took shit loads of money and time to make, consider what the fuck you are saying. The shit was free and took hardly any time or trouble, it has no links and extensive information to it ya fuckin pussy.
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::soapbox:: ::boohoo::
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shut the fuck up animals
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First of all I would like to apologize to Luke for any scathing comments made earlier concerning the 3rd Conference and the aftermath. He gathered what information he could and I guess he must have felt that my input would not fit into his overall needs.
With that said, there may be others who also want to do their own documentary on the Straight Experience, and they may also want to seek out testimonials and interviews with those willing to do so. I want to state right now that I am all for helping out in a grass-roots effort of local Tampa Bay area folks in doing our own project. What I DO NOT want to see happen is another one of those MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DICK type of fiasco's that filled this forum with alot of back-biting and in-fighting back in the days of the ISAC/SafetyNet stylings. I plan on making this blog thing happen, but it is like teaching Arnold Schwartzenegger how to crochet babie booties at this time for me. I hate the holidays and since they are upon us, I have ample time to do this blog thing right. I plan to simply do a site that depicts what it was like for us as teens to be yanked from our world as a teen, take part in a twisted behavioral reform program that was engineered by power-mad control freaks who turned it into a huge money making enterprise that never really solved a goddamn thing in my community.
Those that want to take part are welcome to do so.
I am and will always be the 85 Day Jerk. As a jerk I spent most of my time simply observing the inner goings of the Straight Machine as it existed in the Milton Roy, Morgan Yacht, and later only after securing the blessings of the Reagan Administration, the exhalted Gandy Blvd. Facility which was built on the money of all those who came before, but were rudely excluded from using. I was told that the damn building cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 7.5 Million Dollars, which included 3.7 acres them twisted bastards never even got the chance to build on and utilize. I did notice the last time I went to this building to turn in a Cable Box and Computer Modem while it was still Verizon, that the back and side parking lots had been enlarged quite a bit. That land was supposed to house a Community Room for parents and 7 steppers, 2 tennis courts, and an honest to god swimming pool.
That never happened because instead, the powers that be decided it was more important to spread the poison on a national level.
But regardless of what I have to say on the matter of any and all efforts to make any type of Straight Documentary..........you are either for it, or you are not. If you are not, why don't you go to that sick ass Kennedy Assasination Video Game site and see how you score, cuz we don't need your durision here.
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[ This Message was edited by: Pietra on 2004-12-12 11:36 ]
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i'll tell it like it was, how do i get in touch?
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"like teaching Arnold Schwartzenegger how to crochet babie booties" !!!!!!!!!!!!
NIIIICE ANALOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... yeah, i always imaginged the big guy was probably a shitty crocheter. okay.. now all i dont understand is... wtf is "Milton Roy, Morgan Yacht"? and what does "85-day jerk" mean? that you were an oldcomer for 85 days or something? thanks in advance for the reply, cause coming up with another analogy was like teaching Bea Arthur to play craps!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.straightkids.com (http://www.straightkids.com)
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I could make shirts with that site URL also or instead.
Luke? Are you out there? Would you mind? :wave:
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info@straightkids.com I am here contact me anytime.
Luke