Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2004, 08:11:00 AM
Unless you have a disabling illness or condition then you have no excuse to be living off handouts.
Get a real life assholes. You can be what ever you want to be, but you choose to bash Bush because he makes you work hard for your check.
Big fuckin deal, welcome to the real game of life.
Post by: Cynthia on July 24, 2004, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2004, 09:50:00 PM
http://www.fms.treas.gov/annualreport/annrpt00.pdf (http://www.fms.treas.gov/annualreport/annrpt00.pdf)
All payments to people "living off handouts" amounts to 14 percent of our budget. And this includes benefits to the aged and disabled, unemployment compensation, and retirement programs. Actual money given to poor families floats in around 3 to 4 percent of our national budget, and this includes programs for pregnant mothers that can't afford formula and to help keep children homeless.
On the other hand, Medicare and Social security accounts for 34% of our budget and slated to continually grow. Ever been to florida and seen where these poor old folks shop, live and golf?
In other words, your inflammatory comments are nothing but a red herring. This country has long been well able to afford helping the needy, but people like you turn a mean eye while continuing to pile money and benefits on a group of people who largely don't need it, the elderly. My friend the financial planner has clients die all the time with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in their pensions, yet they collect money way beyond what they paid in. This, moron, is a "giveaway program". Why aren't you outraged?
What we can't afford, and what is steering us into a major tradegy, is for the old folks to keep voting dollars out of the working peoples' pockets.
Dem vs rep has little to do in the actual world with "give away programs". Both parties are steering this country toward financial ruin.
However, your beloved rep party is fuleing the drug war, trying to remove your constitutional rights, pushing for institutionalizing even more teens, warmongering around the world, and generally making the US the most hated nation in the world. 142,000 And that is thousand, teenagers were INSTITUTIONALIZED last year for MARIJUANA treatment largely in treatment centers using modalitys similar to what we were exposed to.
Who is behind this? Take a peek behind the curtain and you will see the elephant with drug free america stickers. Brought to you by...the republican party...
You sound like a fucking dweeb rush parrot.
Jackass...engage some thought before you speak.
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2004, 02:09:00 AM
you think the elderly dont need money? the elderly cant work but but the welfare leaches can. your reasoning is why the country is so fucked up
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
Who ever said this is such a brainless idiot you deserve to be thrown in the ocean to drown. Do you even know what Cheney is all about???? NO because he is the most un public VP ever. While in office he was never seen but a handfull of times, and didnt he utter the phrase once " its a new world order." fukn sheep. wake up.
"Bunch of lowlife bottom feeding scumbags who like to favor the lazy and cut them a check every month.
Unless you have a disabling illness or condition then you have no excuse to be living off handouts.
Get a real life assholes. You can be what ever you want to be, but you choose to bash Bush because he makes you work hard for your check.
Big fuckin deal, welcome to the real game of life."
now who ever said this is talking just like the Nazi party of old, so I guess it would be that asshole nazi. Fuk the poor put them in ovens and camps let em rot. If you dont like paying taxes to help those less fortunate, then leave America. America was founded by poor people and will allways help those in need. We are not a Nazi and or commie based society as that ass hole wants us to be.
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2004, 11:51:00 AM
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On 2004-07-24 23:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"hey idiot
you think the elderly dont need money? the elderly cant work but but the welfare leaches can. your reasoning is why the country is so fucked up"
fNo, she is right. many can work, most collect exponentially more than they ever paid in, many have homes in the north and in florida.
the needy elderly is a different topic. But the question is just how focused is a country that just arbitrarily starts giving people who reach a magical age 34% of our annual budget and free health care while everyone else pays for it and has no health care and then people bitch and moan about helping the truly needy like homeless children and indigenent families by giving up 3% of our budget.
Listen ing to people bitch about give-away programs is a joke. Get a real issue, one that really affects what is going on and stop propping up this straw man.
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2004, 05:08:00 AM
Post by: Mister Pink on July 26, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
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Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2004, 01:22:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2004, 05:48:00 AM
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On 2004-07-26 16:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"At least under Clinton, people had these things called jobs. Maybe if the Republicans did not fuck up the economy, maybe people would be going to work instead of collecting these handouts. How come a good portion of my graduating college class is either unemployed or working shit jobs behind cash registers? The way the Replicans are running this country, you will soon have to have an MBA to work at K-mart, and a PhD to be manager. I don't belong to any political party, but this is bullshit. It's good that people are saying something smart on here instead of whinning about Elan."
Yea once again, blame it on the Reblicans because your lazy sorry ass wont get off the couch to get a job. If the illegal Mexicans immigrants can seem to find work everyday then I dont see why you cant.
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
Post by: thepatriot on July 27, 2004, 09:06:00 AM
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On 2004-07-26 16:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"At least under Clinton, people had these things called jobs. Maybe if the Republicans did not fuck up the economy, maybe people would be going to work instead of collecting these handouts. How come a good portion of my graduating college class is either unemployed or working shit jobs behind cash registers? The way the Replicans are running this country, you will soon have to have an MBA to work at K-mart, and a PhD to be manager. I don't belong to any political party, but this is bullshit. It's good that people are saying something smart on here instead of whinning about Elan."
Working shit Jobs???? maybe they should have chosen another Major...one of the biggest jokes is a buisness degree...shit they are a dime a dozen and pretty much qualify you to manage a Mickey D's
You don't make 6 figures out of college you have to start at the bottom and pay your dues. Society and government doesn't OWE anybody! Work for it and quit crying about handouts. I love the resumes I get to review...especially the ones that list their Fraternity, those are the first ones I shit can. Being unemployed is frustrating but sitting on your ass crying about it won't get you to work. Sometimes you have to take a job you don't like to get one that you eventually will. Thats a lesson in the real world. I don't know if you are one of those Elanians that came from a privilged family but acting like a spoiled brat won't get you a job.
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Sarasota Straight Escapee
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
Yea Kerry's Wife would make a great First Lady, just look at how well spoken she is? NOT.
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2004, 02:10:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2004, 02:13:00 AM
Who ever said this is such a brainless idiot you deserve to be thrown in the ocean to drown. Do you even know what Cheney is all about???? NO because he is the most un public VP ever. While in office he was never seen but a handfull of times, and didnt he utter the phrase once " its a new world order." fukn sheep. wake up.
"Bunch of lowlife bottom feeding scumbags who like to favor the lazy and cut them a check every month.
Unless you have a disabling illness or condition then you have no excuse to be living off handouts.
Get a real life assholes. You can be what ever you want to be, but you choose to bash Bush because he makes you work hard for your check.
Big fuckin deal, welcome to the real game of life."
now who ever said this is talking just like the Nazi party of old, so I guess it would be that asshole nazi. Fuk the poor put them in ovens and camps let em rot. If you dont like paying taxes to help those less fortunate, then leave America. America was founded by poor people and will allways help those in need. We are not a Nazi and or commie based society as that ass hole wants us to be.
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you're very very ignorant... people like you are why im scared for this countries future... get a clue
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2004, 08:42:00 AM
We are better off with a Republican running our country.We dont need another scandalis Democrap in the White House.
I am proud to call myself a Bush supporter and will surely be voting for him again.
Too the asshole who compared Bush to the Nazi party. You are such a dork, The Nazi's were cruel and evil people and killed thousand's of innocent people.
Bush wants the USA to be a safe place and is doing a great job at it.Since the security was beefed up and enforced there have been many preventable terroist attacks against us.
If you want to compare someone or a group to NAZIS why don't you pay more attention to the terroists over in the Middle East?
They are the ones that are NAZIS, kidnapping and cutting off people's heads.
Take a trip over there you ignorant fool and get yourself kidnapped, you will be singing a different tune.
Post by: SyN on August 15, 2004, 09:57:00 AM
Yea Kerry's Wife would make a great First Lady, just look at how well spoken she is? NOT."
At least she isnt telling people to fuk off like Cheney did to a Senator. Now thats grace.
"This guy is a liar and his wife is a loud mouth bitch.Why is it that everytime the country is running so smooth a Democrat wants to come and fuck it all up?"
like King Bush the firsts attempt to kill our economy, then clinton got us in a surplus of 236 Billion... hmmm where do you get you facts? Off a bathroom wall?
http://www.dubyaspeak.com (http://www.dubyaspeak.com)
"You know what else I think? You know what else I think when they say, tax the rich? Most rich people are able to avoid taxes, and if you can't raise enough money from taxing the rich, guess who pays the taxes? Yes, you do.
-- Dubya explains his tax priorities by portraying the concept of taxing the rich as a pipe dream. I guess we might as well drop their rate to 0%. Albuquerque, New Mexico, Aug. 11, 2004"
"The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway.
-- Dubya tries to find more reasons not to tax the rich, Annandale, Virginia, Aug. 9, 2004."
As you know, we don't have relationships with Iran. I mean, that's -- ever since the late '70s, we have no contacts with them, and we've totally sanctioned them.
-- With the small exception of those secret arms sales to Iran in the 1980s, but who's counting, right? Annandale, Virginia, Aug. 9, 2004
i've got thousands of his lies want more or are you gonna just go on blind faith with a man who cant ride a bike or eat a pretzel without allmost killing himself.?
Either way the polls say it best
http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm? ... temID=3736 (http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=3736)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html)
http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/7/18/223712/297 (http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/7/18/223712/297)
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_07_25_a ... 5740710050 (http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_07_25_atrios_archive.html#109122695740710050)
if you have any trouble reading them i'll give the short version. Bush has his back against the wall.
Post by: SyN on August 15, 2004, 01:22:00 PM
so the vp doesnt need standards right? just being a bully is good enough to represent the free world, for meathead knuckle dragging monkeys.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/24/cheney.leahy/ (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/24/cheney.leahy/)
"Cheney, who as president of the Senate was present for the picture day, turned to Leahy and scolded the senator over his recent criticism of the vice president for Halliburton's alleged war profiteering."
or maybe just rely on a man who has no idea how to work his mouth.
""You can't read a newspaper if you can't read," the President said at one point when he spoke about the success his administration has had in teaching children how to read. When responding to a question posed by a Native American journalist on what he thought about the sovereignty of the Indian tribes in the U.S., Bush could only respond with something like "sovereignty is well ... sovereignty, and if you have sovereignty you are sovereign." Say what?
http://www.nydailynews.com/08-08-2004/n ... 88900c.htm (http://www.nydailynews.com/08-08-2004/news/politics/story/220138p-188900c.htm)
SyN
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2004, 07:20:00 AM
Your Boy John Kerry should have done a better job of doing his homework before attemping to run, there are far too many holes to punch in him.What a fuckin moron Kerry is.
Isn't if funny how all the homosexuals despise Bush and then go to jail? Ha ha ha.All the jerkoff's who protest against the RNC are getting arrested by the dozen. LOL
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2004, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: SyN on September 03, 2004, 12:56:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2004, 08:49:00 AM
the image of me sipping wine, is that all you have got???? the image it conjures up????? ROFLMAO :rofl:
yeah, yeah and i wear shoe's too, what does that say. I must be gay since i own shoes..... and a car man dont forget my car...... and and. i have a job...... and ..
IDIOT but hey thanks for the laugh.
"wine sipper" bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Post by: SyN on September 03, 2004, 08:49:00 AM
the image of me sipping wine, is that all you have got???? the image it conjures up????? ROFLMAO :rofl:
yeah, yeah and i wear shoe's too, what does that say. I must be gay since i own shoes..... and a car man dont forget my car...... and and. i have a job...... and ..
IDIOT but hey thanks for the laugh.
"wine sipper" bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Post by: SyN on September 03, 2004, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2004, 07:00:00 AM
Talk about idiot's? I guess you people never plan on running for office less alone be involved in a political party in the future?
4 more years! 4 more years! 4 more years!
Bush will prevail!!!!! Go Bush you are da man!
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2004, 08:39:00 AM
Post by: SyN on September 04, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
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On 2004-09-03 05:54:00, SyN wrote:
"cant help but notice you fukn gop lovers are always anon. since your not fooling anyone into thinking you have vast support might as well start meaningless arguements instead of knowing issues."
Anonymous, bag head? Oh so if we were to have a name like SYN we wouldn't be? Hey asshole FYI you post under the letters SYN, i see no real name nor address or phone number under your profile, you are just as anonymous as i am.
Aslo asshole you are a moderator at a board that allows people to be anonymous, I guess the real bag head here is you since you have the control of this board. DUH!!
Are you even old enough to vote syn? You probably are some little 15 year old kid who thinks he knows it all. Go ahead pretend all you want SYN, I don't have to pretend, I am the real deal and enjoying all life has to offer. I live in a beautiful home nestled up in Mendham NJ with over 15 acres of scenic land.Also have a beautiful wife with 3 kids that will be able to get into any College they want to when the time will come.
What do you have to offer to your family in the future? Oh thats right you have nothing because a Republican is running our Country. Yea get real, get a life kid, if you don't how the country is being run then do something about it, otherwise sit down and shut your little mouth.
Don't blame all your finacial difficulties on President Bush, fuckin baby...You can be what ever you want to be in life kid, and it takes some blood , sweat, and tears to get it? Big fuckin deal....
When I was 18 I worked a shit job and slowly got to the top and did it through some really hard times.I make enough money and have it saved where my kids would'nt even have to work for the rest of their lifes.When I was 25 I and a partner of mine bought a troubled company and took it to the top, within 10 years the copy went from bankruptcy to a fortune 500 company.
We now employ over 200 employees which all have a great healthcare and dental coverage program.I also have my company on the stock market.
What is it you do, you are a wine sipper someone posted here? Or was it a liquor store stockboy for your Uncle?
Piss off why don't you and get a clue as to whats going on in the real world.You are most likely one of those welfare recipitant's that lives for handout's and totally objects to the work for your check program.
You remind me of that fat lowlife asshole documentary director Michael Moore who has nothing better to do in life except go after and attack our 2nd amendment.
Get a clue kid.....
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2004, 10:59:00 AM
4 more years!
4 more years!
4 more years!
4 more years!
4 more years!
4 more years!
4 more years!
I can't wait too see what Synaretzky has to say once the final vote results are in and Bush is declared the winner.
I guess it's not such a bad idea after all to come back to fornits and see people socking it to Syn.
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2004, 06:23:00 PM
Kerry has a record of voting to send more tax dollars to Washington instead of keeping them in the productive hands of individuals and businesses ? He has voted for higher taxes hundreds of times. He voted 98 times for tax increases totaling more than $2.3 trillion. In addition, he has voted 126 times against tax cuts, voted 73 times to reduce the size of tax cuts, voted 67 times for smaller tax cuts and voted 11 times against repealing tax hikes.
Now Kerry wants to raise taxes on successful small business owners and entrepreneurs ? 90% of businesses pay taxes through the individual income tax, not the corporate income tax. Kerry?s call to repeal tax cuts for the ?wealthy? would increase taxes on nearly 1 million successful small businesses and entrepreneurs who are in the top two individual income tax brackets.
Kerry would have small businesses paying a higher tax rate than corporations ? While Kerry would reduce the top tax rate for corporations from 35% to 33.25%, he would increase the top tax rate for small businesses from 35% to 39.6%. Small businesses create 7 out of 10 new jobs. No small business should have to pay more taxes than a corporation. It?s unfair and bad economics.
Kerry?s corporate tax plan would make the U.S. less internationally competitive ? Kerry would partially end the deferral of foreign income, making the tax code even more complicated and making U.S. companies less competitive internationally. The Institute for International Economics reports ?it would actually tilt the tax field more steeply in favor of foreign MNCs [multinational companies].? (?Senator Kerry on Corporate Tax Reform: Right Diagnosis, Wrong Prescription,? Institute for International Economics, Gary Haufbauer, 4/04)
Kerry?s own advisers admit his plan won?t stop outsourcing ? ?Campaign officials acknowledged that the new plan would not stop the broader trend of outsourcing jobs to low-wage countries.? (Source: ?Kerry to Propose Eliminating a Tax Break on U.S. Companies' Overseas Profits,? The New York Times, 3/26/04)
Kerry?s New Jobs Tax Credit won?t work ? Kerry proposes bringing back a tax credit from the Carter era that didn?t work then and won?t work now. It?s complicated and will require more paperwork. It puts good companies that didn?t lay-off their employees during the recession at a competitive disadvantage with companies that did lay-off employees and now hire them back. Even the study Kerry cited in support of the idea concluded it didn?t work: ?Most firms either did not know of the program or were not influenced by it, a result which makes this short-run program an imperfect counter-cyclical tool.? (?The New Jobs Tax Credit: An Evaluation of the 1977-78 Wage Subsidy Program,? Jeffrey M. Perloff and Michael L. Wachter, The American Economic Review, May 1979)
Kerry?s economic isolationism would jeopardize millions of U.S. jobs ? Kerry?s call for reviewing trade agreements he?s already voted in favor of and for imposing unilateral tariffs could spark a trade war that jeopardizes U.S. jobs. Trade supports about 12 million jobs in the U.S. and investment from foreign companies supports another 6 million jobs.
Kerry won?t reduce the costs of doing business in the U.S. ? He has opposed reforms to curb frivolous and costly lawsuits. His health care plan would just shift costs rather than provide incentives to reduce them. His ideas for energy policy would hurt manufacturers. For example, Senator Kerry voted for a Kyoto-like bill that the National Association of Manufacturers characterized as ?potentially devastating to economic growth and job creation.? (Source: ?NAM Calls for Defeat of S. 139,? press release, 10/29/03)
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2004, 06:27:00 PM
John Kerry copies President Bush?s proposals for Americans with Disabilities. John Kerry?s Policy Platform regarding Americans with disabilities copies current Bush policy on how to address the needs of Americans with disabilities. Kerry?s proposals include implementing the Olmstead Supreme Court decision, but President Bush already issued an executive order in June 2001 committing the federal government to swift implementation of the Olmstead decision. Kerry's platform also includes his support for the Money Follows the Individual Act, a commitment already made by President Bush to re-balance states' long-term care systems so that there are more cost-effective choices between institutional and community options.
Kerry continues to demonstrate he is making empty promises. As Kerry argues for what he says would ?strengthen? the Medicaid system, he fails to show up to vote on it. Kerry?s vote, in fact, could have made a difference in the creation of a Medicaid program for the disabled. According to the Boston Herald, ?U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry could have altered the outcome of two Senate votes last year, but he missed the roll calls because he was away from Washington, DC, campaigning for president. The two missed votes ? on privatization of federal government jobs and the creation of a Medicaid program for people with disabilities ? undermine the Kerry campaign?s claim ? that the senator has missed no roll call votes in which his vote would have altered the outcome.? (Jonathan Wells, ?Missed Votes Sway Outcome,? Boston Herald, 3/2/04)
Disabilities Amendment Was Killed By Two Votes. Kerry missed a vote on a motion to table the amendment to establish a demonstration project under the Medicaid program to encourage the provision of community-based services to individuals with disabilities, and the amendment was ultimately defeated by just two votes. (S. 1, CQ Vote #247: Motion Agreed To 50-48: R 48-3; D 2-44; I 0-1, 6/26/03, Kerry Did Not Vote)
John Kerry is Wrong for Volunteerism
Kerry makes large spending proposals he cannot fulfill. Kerry proposed a $3.5 billion per-year plan to enlist 1 million Americans in community service, which he would pay for by raising taxes. Kerry later changed his proposal and plans to cut back his ?Service-For College? Initiative. ?At least one of Kerry's own proposals to encourage young Americans to make a difference ? a $3.5 billion ?service-for-college? initiative that would offer students the equivalent of their state?s four-year public college tuition in exchange for two years of service ? will be scaled back because of the ballooning federal budget deficit.? (Patricia Wilson, ?Kerry: Peace Corps Can Help Heal Iraqi Abuse Damage,? Reuters, 5/8/04)
Kerry makes service to community a graduation requirement and no longer a personal obligation. According to Kerry?s plan for his first 100 days of office, entitled "100 Days to Change America," he would mandate that every high school student in America fulfill community service requirements to graduate. He would alter the President?s call to service in a way that renders a commitment to service into a mandatory requirement, rather than a personal moral obligation to ourselves and our country. His plan would also require that every high school in America be funded to cover all costs for this initiative. Kerry wants to increase bureaucracy and federalize service. This contrasts with the President?s current model of service ? which is to make initial investments that will promote volunteerism in our country, thus conserving government money for other needed areas.
John Kerry Wants to Reverse President Bush's Efforts to Protect Faith-Based Organizations
Kerry Opposed Faith-Based Funding. John Kerry believes President Bush?s faith-based initiative has ?reached too far.? (http://www.interfaithalliance.org (http://www.interfaithalliance.org))
John Kerry has flip-flopped on faith-based. John Kerry voted in 1996 to protect the right of a religious charity to hire based on faith while receiving Federal funds (so called ?Charitable Choice?), but he and the democratic leadership in the Senate have blocked President Bush?s efforts to expand Charitable Choice to additional programs.
John Kerry is Wrong for Minority Homeownership
Kerry votes against legislation encouraging homeownership. Kerry voted against $500 million in funding for the Home Investment Partnerships Program and against $165 million for the Homeownership Opportunity Program. He also voted against amendments that would allow first-time homebuyers to be eligible for tax credits worth up to $5,000 on the purchase of their primary residence.
Kerry is Wrong on Families and Welfare
While Senator Kerry now embraces welfare reform as a success, he changed his vote back and forth in 1996. Although Senator Kerry touts his vote for overhauling welfare in 1996, he does not mention that he first voted numerous times to gut key provisions of the bill and has a history of voting against work requirements for welfare recipients.
Now that the welfare program is up for reauthorization, Senator Kerry voted to gut the bill that would provide funding for healthy marriage programs, encouraging responsible fatherhood, and supporting self-sufficiency.
In addition, Senator Kerry says abstinence education funding marginalizes lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth. According to information on Senator Kerry's website, the increase in abstinence-only education harms lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) youth by teaching abstinence until marriage and not providing Federal funding for information on safe sex, HIV and AIDS, and LGBT issues. (Kerry website: Fact sheet; ?Bush Administration Does Not Extend to GLBT Americans?)
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
Historic Cost Increases. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, expenditures in the United States on health care have increased 87% since 1990, and are more than 5 times the amount spent in 1980. The $1.3 trillion in national health expenditures (NHE) in 2000 represents 13.2% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), more than 8 percentile points higher than the industry?s share in 1960. (Kaiser Family Foundation: Trends and Indicators in the Changing Health Care Marketplace 2002)
John Kerry?s health proposal is a $900 billion government expansion that does nothing to deal with the underlying factors driving up higher health care costs. (?An Overview and Analysis of the Democratic Presidential Candidates? Health Care Reform Proposals,? 9/7/03)
Kerry opposes plans to reduce frivolous medical liability lawsuits. According to a 2003 Joint Economic Committee report, meaningful medical liability reform could lower health care costs sufficiently and another 3.9 million Americans could afford health insurance. A recent survey found that 8 out of 10 doctors say they have ordered more tests than they need to as a defensive measure to avoid litigation, and 3 out of 4 refer patients to specialists more often than they believe is medically necessary. The broken medical liability system drives up costs for patients and for taxpayers ? at least $28 billion each year for the federal government alone.
Kerry opposes Health Savings Accounts. A major factor in the rise in health care costs is the removal of the patient from the health care decision-making process. Studies show that consumer-driven health care lowers costs. Aetna recently unveiled results of a nine-month study comparing their consumer-driven HealthFund and a similar population enrolled in the insurer?s PPO plan. Costs for HealthFund participants rose by just 1.5%, compared with 15.7% for the control group. (Source: Aetna press release, ?Aetna Research Shows Positive Impact of Consumerism on Health Care Decisions,? 2/16/2004)
Kerry?s plan simply shifts the burden to the taxpayer. What Kerry claims is a ?savings? of 10 percent is simply a shift of the burden of high health care costs to the American taxpayer. In addition, the Kerry reinsurance program is only available to employers and insurers who agree to mandates of the level of coverage, the use of savings, and the eligibility of workers.
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2004, 06:09:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2004, 03:43:00 AM
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On 2004-07-26 16:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"At least under Clinton, people had these things called jobs. Maybe if the Republicans did not fuck up the economy, maybe people would be going to work instead of collecting these handouts. How come a good portion of my graduating college class is either unemployed or working shit jobs behind cash registers? The way the Replicans are running this country, you will soon have to have an MBA to work at K-mart, and a PhD to be manager. I don't belong to any political party, but this is bullshit. It's good that people are saying something smart on here instead of whinning about Elan."
hey dipshit, ever look at the unemployment rate right now? guess not, cuz its lower now than when ur beloved clinton was running for re-election. go fuck yourself.
tallpaul
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2004, 03:55:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 25, 2004, 04:04:00 AM
Post by: SyN on October 25, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
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On 2004-10-25 00:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"syn, how about you stop watching dragon balls so muck and get a life? wouldnt that be interesting? oh no, hes gonna shoot me with his dragon balls. lol, loser."
its kinda hard to make fun of some one when you cant type, let alone form a sentence. ::ftard::
Typical rightie, lets try to make fun of the informed people. Try to get the point off subject. Point being Schrub is an incompetent not incumbent non elected President.
Im still waiting for real points to be made for Bush not quotes from Limbaugh.
Mike
Economy:
Post by: SyN on October 25, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
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On 2004-10-25 01:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"SYN you seem to forget Clinton's formula for "growth." Overinflate the real estate market and dont feed 268 billion dollars of real money into it and what do you know!? A magic surplus appears to look nice on the books before he zips up his fly and leaves the office and an economy on duct taped up legs ready to break to George W. Bush. So very convenient for all the tree hugging, Moore sucking, free loading, lazy, discontented, (I'll skip to the end) liberals. By the way, good going Kerry, send Clinton's ass-monkey, Carville, onto Meet the Press to whine and bitch for you. Honestly, you can't even look at the guy without wanting to punch him in his horribly mishapen face! Would someone please kill him NOW?!...and syn next."
Magic surplus eh? Seemd pretty real since the money was in the bank. We only have IOU's thanks to your great leader
Its still and only about Kerry bub. stop trying to change the subject
I can look at him and not want to punch or kill him. I can look at most people and not want to punch or kill. Probably because im not an unstable monkey who cant controll its emotions. Do you throw shit around your house when you get mad?
Wow what a wing nut.
You cant even hold a decent conversation without flying off the handle. Guess that is why your on the righty side. They love a person so easily confused. Look at W during the debates, no self controll whats so ever. Imagine him trying to talk to world leaders who dont agree with him. He would act like a spoiled rich kid, like he does as President.