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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: SilmarilOne on July 21, 2004, 02:39:00 AM
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Don't do it. Suicide is not the answer. Getting attention for the cause? If anything, people will call you a "troubled soul" with a drug problem and ignore any message about straight being the culprit. It's just how it is. Sounds like you need a hug, that's all.
Don't leave the planet. Talk to somebody.
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On 2004-07-20 23:39:00, SilmarilOne wrote:
"I want to commit suicide to protest Straight. I want you all to help me figure out how to get the best exposure and message from this. It is definitely the result of Straight that I can no longer live.
My email address is
cretin@dslextreme.com
-Thomas B. Pierce
Pasadena, California USA"
Dude, shut the fuck up :roll: That isnt funny
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If you are serious you need something ...I use marijuana for my hopeles depression...smoke a fat joint and see how you feel...
Better yet find a nice woman and get stoned with her and eat her pussy till your jaw falls off...been working fine for me.
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Just don't, ok? Check your mail.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
--Bruce Lee
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Tom.....don't thats giving in to Straight you are stronger than that we all are....check your email
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Thomas, I remember back when you used to post. Don't do it. Ain't nothin' that bad...
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Hi Thomas. That's a really bad idea. It solves nothing, and only makes it's hard on the people who care about you. Besides, why keep giving Straight so much power over your life?
Take care. ::kiss::
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Ok, you talked me out of it. I was running it by you, it's not a crisis, please no one go running off to try to get me committed or something. Thanks!
cheers
thomas
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Try "Quadriple Murder/Suicide".Kill four of your tormentors (preferable "Ex-7Steppers" who regularly post here)and afterwards maybe you will change your mind about killing yourself.If you can not locate any 7Steppers,then rob a bank or two before you top yourself,again you may change your mind after you count all of that money.With the money you can locate your enemies and torture them and then you will not want to "end it all"(if you kill your self in "protest" it will only buttress Straights position that they were "helping a troubled youth").
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Great advice, anon. :silly:
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On 2004-07-22 04:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Try "Quadriple Murder/Suicide".Kill four of your tormentors (preferable "Ex-7Steppers" who regularly post here)and afterwards maybe you will change your mind about killing yourself.If you can not locate any 7Steppers,then rob a bank or two before you top yourself,again you may change your mind after you count all of that money.With the money you can locate your enemies and torture them and then you will not want to "end it all"(if you kill your self in "protest" it will only buttress Straights position that they were "helping a troubled youth")."
Suicide is cool. I won't disagree. I like your idea of taking a few mutherfuckers with you, though. let's face it-- life is shit. Kill your enemies, then off yourself. The nips are correct with their seppukku philosophy--death is preferable to dishonor. You have my blessing. Cherry blossoms all around.
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you are a VERY sick group of people
it takes more than a bad tx program to get you THIS messed up
please seek HELP - ALL of you
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you are a VERY sick group of people
it takes more than a bad tx program to get you THIS messed up
please seek HELP - ALL of you
::bwahaha::
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On 2004-07-21 13:28:00, SilmarilOne wrote:
"Ok, you talked me out of it. I was running it by you, it's not a crisis, please no one go running off to try to get me committed or something. Thanks!
cheers
thomas"
Good Thomas. You're a really cool guy, I hope you are able to find peace from the mental torment programs like Straight can cause. You are cared for. Drop me a message sometime if you'd like.
Love,
Morli
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:grin:
He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.
James Burgh 1774
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Think you should do it, if you want to.
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I think that you should have your post edited by Greg, animals. No one should ever encourage suicide. Yours is the banter of severe mental instability, and/or illness.
the war on drugs is but one manifestation, albeit a very dramatic one, of the great moral contests of our age -- the struggle between two diametrically opposed images of man: between man as responsible moral agent, 'condemned' to freedom, benefiting and suffering from the consequences of his actions; and man as irresponsible child, unfit for freedom, 'protected' from its risks by agents of the omnicompetent state.
--Thomas Szasz
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Whatever people that talk about suicide are fucking stupid and just want attention. Do it or shut up.
Its one thing to say "hey I have a problem what can i do?"
Then one may assume you really want a solution..
Instead you say "Im gonna kill myself arrrgh"
And instead of solutions you are asking for people to beg you not to.
I think suicide sucks and all that...but how much can I be expected to care about an anonymous (to me) person on a web site that may or may not be serious?
I cant ...
Either state the problem and ask for help....or state the problem and vent..but dont come with the 13 year old suicide threat. Its trite and old..
Go buy a sack of weed and a case of beer and call your favorite lady friend over and get fucked up and eat her pussy for hours that should make you both feel better..
Whew...arent ya glad I solved that for you? Have fun.
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nothing's worse than a suicide chump.. go on and get it over with then, find yourself a bridge and take a jump.
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That's a Frank Zappa quote. Cute, Sheik.
Boundary, n. In political geography, an imaginary line between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of one from the imaginary rights of another.
-- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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A week or two ago a woman my husband knew walked in front of a semi truck. It caused a four car accident and shut down the interstate for a few hours.
People talked about it for a couple of days, but what was interesting what they talked about. The conversation was directed not at how sorry they felt for the girl or her family(they concluded she was either not right in the head or on drugs)--but how sorry they felt for the truck driver because he was going to have to deal with having smashed someone for the rest of his life.
Also when I explained to them that the girl was just "not right in the head" and drugs were probably not involved, the mystery of the event was taken away and there was no more discussion. End of story.
Just something to think about.
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Fag
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Maybe Greg should edit my post, maybe not, I don't know. In the meantime, I really don't care what you think Lezbo. But I am sure that I don't have to explain myself to you.
Since you don't get it and you want to play counselor, I will aquiesce and let you humbly take my explanation even though you already mentioned in your projecting post that you wonder sometimes if you are....what is it you said......'mentally instable'. Most instable folk do have a hard time understanding or correctly perceiving others. Too obvious, unfortunately for you.
I, too, was in Straight Incorporated. I have thought of martyrdom, which is really what this guy is talking about. He knows that coming to this forum is mostly for Straightlings and Survivors and anything inbetween that. And don't even try to say, 'well anyone can come here', as a retort to this. Sure, I can go to the veterinarian if I have cancer.
I think the guy is talking about martyrdom more than mere attention for suicide as someone else said. I think death and its causes should be discussed more, instead of sluffed off as something, when mentioned, for being for attention. This speaking of attention sounds like something people used to say in group, "you're just seeking attention" or w/e. I think if he wants to really kill himself that it is up to him, but again I dont think that's the gyst of the conversation. It is entirely safe for me to factually think that anyone who is as evil as Melvin Sembler, Bush Senior, Ronnie, or anyone who will do abuse in an organized way should not be expected to do time in prison or even pay fines after so long. Its so very fucking heinously insanely shittilly fucking way way way far beyond that by now. Afterall, you can't run concurrent sentences on the time that I want Straight creators to do for me for all the years I couldn't think right, act right, feel right, and all the shit you know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. See, in prison you get to defend yourself. LIFE is far easier. You fight or die. That simple. You don't have to listen to anyone, and listening to bullshit there is not construed as therapy. You still have rights in prison. You can go to school in prison. You get fed more. You can stay in bed more. You can make phone calls. You can defend yourself against brainwashing and you don't generally get put in prison unless you're an adult. And as adults the only solution for so many who have suffered against Straight Inc. is for them to kill themselves or be killed off.
You can't take your average prison time and expect Straight Management to run your sentence requirement concurrent with the one I want them to serve. That is the only justice that could ever come from this. The only, one and only viable, foreseeable and justifiable solution for all the fucking literally thousands of fully added years that Straight Inc. should serve for - is death. Death would near equal what the years that need to be paid for equal. Its not three fucking years that they do for the three years that I had to do. Its three years plus ten or fifteen more for creating my disabilities and suffering. Its those ten or fifteen more for the fucked up shit I went through after Straight Inc. because of Straight Inc.
I don't know Thom, I'm sure he's a kool kat. I think he's discussing not only the mere qualities of suicide, but maybe he's saying he perceives the futility in the laws and the world around us. Nothing is ever going to come positive from such a rotten egg as Straight Incorporated. It is too late for Straight Creators to turn around and make ANY 'ammends' for all the wrong they've done even after Straight closed. I don't think suicide should be left out of the question here at all. Maybe you should kill yourself Lezzi, maybe you are afraid to fight and are still comfortable with whipping out of sorry fucking advice to others when it is so apparent that your laziness has gotten to you and you are afraid to stand up and fight like you know you should.
Death is one way to fight and should be used as such in my own opinion.
Next time try taking your own advice. Advice like; 'your encouragement is mental instability' is good for people who are so often projecting, boring, boring at best, and old (like old discontinued cent book advice from doctors who used leeches to draw blood) and useless and, no need to mention, lacking in creativity or imagination.