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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: E7haterJe on July 03, 2004, 10:29:00 PM
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I WAS INSPIRED BY syn's "breathe" thing...
Dont know why just was...
So i'll start with...
peter where r u? i have somethin to tell you..
i want hirem's email...
and...
whats a good site to go shopping on, where you can buy cheap chic clothes?
and...
i saw the movie "the reqruit" recruit? and it was good i like it..
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Any one heard of "THE DISCO BISCUITS" its a music group?
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the Biscuits rock! yea they are a jam band form here in Philadelphia. they have been around since about 1995.
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big fan of them myself.
SyN
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On 2004-07-03 22:09:00, MrSyNiStEr wrote:
"big fan of them myself.
SyN"
stupid stale idiot
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Syn & Jordan-
do you have biscuit stuff? CDS? can you send me some stuff to copy? I lost the cd with the remake of that song: from the late 70's or 80's?? i love that song. "tan, tan, tan, tan, tadda da da da da...you know?? can you tell from the hum??? :wave:
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did you ever crave a frappe in AElan? but they didnt let us make ice cream shakes?? so when they gave ice cream sandwiches, did you ever mix them in some milk, smash it in there, and eat it like an ice cream shake??? yum..yum...
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I LOVE FRAPPES, the whole summer before elan, when i was in new england we would drink homemade heady Frappes.. anyway send me your number and or address via private message, and i will burn u a disc of some phatty Biscuits. in fact i have a version of riverdance they do, its called Rivertrance... it rocks the hizzle. hit me back quick so i can send the cd's for i am leaving for Cali on wednesday.
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by the way Jenny, u rock!!! i I'll be sure to hit you up when i go visit my mom in Palm Beach around Thanksgiving!!! :smokin: :smokin:
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Is it Jenn Milo?
I lived in satelite with her and she use to beat me up in soccer but I still like her.
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ahahah.... no..its Jenn Gollinger. Jordon, my email is public. its publicrelationsjenny26@yahoo.com
I dont have a phone right now, because im switching services. Can you save them as music files and uploud them to me???
YEA THATS THE SONG RIVERDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THAT CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Ill pay ya for it!! :nworthy: :nworthy:
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ii bur you a disc, all of their songs are over 7 mins long so they wont upload fast at all. send me your address...
mwaaaaaaaaaahahahah im watching Seinfeld, LOL
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ill give you my work. cause my home mail is ina lopp hole because ive forwarded my mail from campus./
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aight, send it to jordaneisman@comcast.net
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i sent it as a private message
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i havent gotten it yet
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i sent it to your email
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just to clarify...
i am not fighting, arguing or picking anything...
but i need to clarify somethin...
first off i was told by a couple of people that youve been acting "sketchy" about the crash of your film..and JNAILZ" who I have have spoken to here and there, and I read his posts, about what his thoughts are, what your thoughts are etc etc, and about the cruel phone call and all, and I think thats messed up...
I think your a cool guy, you, to me, have never done anything...
I mean, in Elan you booked incidents that never happened...but that was IN ELAN,,,,"some people including me sometimes, tried to get one up on others",,,
on the other hand--
you generally have never fooked with me...
Just do me one favor--i like talking to you and all...
I appreciate the help, to get thr "Riverdance cd" and all, just dont say stuff to me like"hey sexy Jenn or whatever it was?...
we dont really talk that much???
it sounds weird?
i dont know...
:question:
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What do you expect from this asswad? Men who adress women with pet names such as "sexy" "honey" "baby" etc have issues with women. They think women are some sort of human subspecies who exsist for the pleasure and convienience of men.
Imagine how he treats women he knows.
I dont have any reason to ridicule Jordo, other than reacting to the things he says, or what people say about him. But its amazingly simple to get an impression of him here with the stupid fucking shit he types.
Jordo honey, if you actually have people around you who LIKE you, spend a little more time with them and a lot less time here big-boy. Theres an unfavorable ratio of people here who Like/dislike you. And it is all based on things like this, and all the fucking swill that goes from your pea-brain through your fingers and onto my fuckin jaded screen.
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Men who address women with pet names such as "sexy" "honey" "baby" etc have issues with women.
Jordo honey, if you actually have people around you who LIKE you, spend a little more time with them and a lot less time here big-boy
honey? i dont even know you, and you call me honey..
the amount of pretentious pre-judging that goes on in here is amazing.. cause i have time to defend the slander being slung around this site about me, i dont have a a life???????? this whole thing is getting old and stale, just like philly, so i i i think i will make my exit.. this site facilitated whatever worth it had for the film that wasn't, and i have gotten in touch with all the people who i have wanted and not wanted to find.. so good riddance all of you, jenny sorry i offended you by calling you sexy, if ur not sexy just say so... you can all share ur inaccurate rumor based ideas about how the film failed, bla bla bla, truth is none of you will ever know what happened. however i cant leave without stirring the pot a bit, one last thing, whilst in la i gave my rough treatment to a director friend of mine, who said he will look into funding for an animated version of Number 5 road, if produced i told him i want no part but to be a research consultant.... i promised to forward all interviews and research thus far, for making an animated series would require no approval from any of you, the school or your parents. he agreed that the best way to bring elan to cinematic forum would be to animate it, thus circumnavigating any and all legal ramifications. hey if it works out, look to see a 3-d modeled version of yourself up on the big screen. you can go ahead and try to threaten me with whatever, bottom line is if its produced as an animated film, there aint shit any of you can do, but watch it and laugh, cause im sure it ill be quite funny. good luck to all of you in your future endeavors, nick sussi, i hope you can get some balls and stop slandering me anonymously, black racist dude with big cock, get a grip, jon sorry u got a really bad impression of me, but i wish you the best of luck with your new family and congratulations on your newborn, jenny ill send you some biscuits, art, well art your just a backstabbing bastard, and scarecrow i love you...
-shine on
Jordan H. Eisman
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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That's why I wouldn't get involved.I had a feeling you might be like that.Good luck with your new life,sounds like you need one.[ This Message was edited by: xres8182 on 2004-07-12 05:51 ]
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Fuckboy is leaving?
Yeah, Ill believe it when I see it.
Buhbye fuckboy
Uh-bup-bup-buhbye!
Jayzus this is fuckin almost a freakin bad dream reading his shit. Elan animated?
First of all, if you use ANY information collected from those interested in submitting it to the documentary, and decide to use it for anything BUT that Documentary youd be hanging yourself. A director friend? Why is it when people are so full of shit they cant just BE full of shit out in the open? What is your "director" freinds name bigboy?
Do you know how many directors are in LA? Do you know how many of them dont have a fucking pot to piss in?
Now lets talk about an animated Elan movie. How absolutely refuckindiculous is that idea?
Serious question Jordo. Take your time and dont be afraid to seek assistance for an answer: Are you completely refuckintarded?
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honey? i dont even know you, and you call me honey
Jordo you idiot, I was mocking you.
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An animated version of #5 road?
Jordan listen to me. There are people who deal with serious psychiatric troubles who were in Elan. Some of these people, though undiagnosed as a direct result of Elan, are living very tormented lives. Nightmares, Post traumatic stress disorder. Ive read accounts of people waking in the middle of the night with cold sweats, urinating in thier beds. I hear people claim to suffer from severe depression and anxiety etc.
No we can likely never detirmine if these conditions are in fact a result of Elan, but the experience, although often exagerated, is not a pleasant one for many people.
I assumed the efforts to produce a documentary about Elan was intended to service those who were there. To document and publicize accurate truthful accounts of the experience. Though I have no interest in a "movie" about Elan, probobly because I was there and lived it, and dont care to revisit. I think much of the appeal to a movie would be the idea that the general public will get to hear first hand what Elan is or what Elan was. Theres a lot of benefit in just talking to people about a bad experience, a flic may have provided that relief in one way or another for many people. I hope to god most people have set aside the idea of monetary retribution or the pipedream of civil litigation for alledged crimes commited on them in Elan, and they have some sort of realistic goal in place to overcome whatever challenges they face in thier present lives.
But to even suggest a freakin cartoon is entirely insane, and a slap in the face to people who take the experience a little more seriously than that.
I have no urge to contribute to a movie, a story or anything that remotely publisizes Elan and my experience with it. Why?
Theres nothing at all that can be gained by reliving it. Ive pondered the question "what good will it do"? And the only answer I can come up with is "It might do those who produce it a little monetary good, but some starry eyed kid in Philly isnt going to change the past and make my life a little better to look back on"
Elan isnt a problem for us any more. The things that went on there went on in FEDERALLY funded programs too, and still do! (Uh Jail ring a bell?)
Is Elan unique in the fact that it simply charged you $35k to abuse you for a year?
An animation would be an insult to both the people who have come to terms with the Elan experience (many have struggled to do so) and those who have not. If any effort to publisize the Elan experience were to take place, dont you think it would have to incorporate at least the same amount of effort it has taken all of us to get over Elan? Can that be done in a fucking cartoon? I dont think so.
I look at myself now and wonder what would be different about me if I was not in Elan.
Can anyone really answer that question? Im not sure I would be any better or any worse. I am broke, but I somehow manage to pay my bills, more importantly I am happy with or without money. I am divorced but I have many loving freinds. I have been diagnosed as bipolar, but you'll never see me use it as a crutch. I have a disease that will likely kill me withing 10 years, but am I going to lay down and die because of it?
I was in Elan. I lived through a microholocaust there. I dont consider Elan a part of who I am...Maybe I am a part of what Elan was or is...but its not in me.
Your suggestion to do an animated flic about Elan is insulting. There is no way I can even fathom the seriousness the issue deserves if it is going to be addressed and I find the mere suggestion offensive, absurd, and purely moronic.
You set your sites on a media presentation of Elan. You appear to be a little defeated, insecure and embarassed that it has not developed into your vision. Dont change your damn vision to get your fucking point across, do what you set out to do, or fucking do something else!
If I had any interest at all in an Elan story, Id get it done and I could sell it to a fucking nazi symapathyzer if I had to.
You're young, you have an attitude, you are most certainly wet behind the ears. Dont think like Jordan, think like a secure, wise, successful person who has something to say that people want to hear. Or shut the hell up..."honey" :rofl:
~Dougie
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agree with Doug on this.
Elan is a very serious subject to people and must be treated accordingly.
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Jordan-
your scaring me..
dont do anything stupid to yourself.
I feel bad now, maybe I should have privated you that? Anyways...
it does seem that a lot of people have waisted their time, or at least people who have no need to get involved the way they have, against you is unfair.
I have my comments.
I have heard a lot, and some not so nice things you have said or done to people. Whether true or not, I am sure, it starts a stir here on this sight. and people make judgements.
I feel that I said what I had to say in amature fashion, and most have...
Others have been cruel & immature.
So maybe not replying for a while or taking a break from this sight might be healthy? I dont know what is the right thing for you to do.
But I hope what ever you decide is right for you
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and to whom ever dougy is how are you going to get across to someone, if you talk like that to them? do you think he respects you now?
yea granted-
that was fucked up reading, that someone is ACTUALLY considering, on creating a docudrama about Elan in ANIMATEd form...is a bit bizarre...
and we all did suffer alot, some more than others some less what ever the fact, we all did in 1 shape or form...
its all stirred up, i really dont know what to say>or if I am making any sence...
:silly: :silly:
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i will be so pissed off if i ever see a little cartoon about elan with a laugh track behind it. it is some thing not to joke about. jordan is such a whore he will do anything to make a movie. even if that means making our childhood into a joke. be creative and come up with an origional idea. jordan you make me sick ::puke::
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To even mock peoples experience st Elan by making a cartoon of it shows the real Jordan, you need to die before you hurt more people.
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Hey Art, How are you? Sorry I haven't gotten back to you but I've been so busy with my son and his baseball this week. He plays everyday. I haven't had time to write anything of substance. I was wondering how the relationship with your parents was after you left elan. Were you angry with them? Did they know what was going on there? Did they have another choice? CCT
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Congrats ART!!!!!!!! thats awesome man hope it works out for the best. but you know its now 10:30 you should be in bed. lol congrats man!
SyN
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an elan cartoon!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
can artman be eric cartman?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Jordan is Sol Rosenberg and Frank Rizzo in the animation
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"and to whom ever dougy is how are you going to get across to someone, if you talk like that to them? do you think he respects you now?
I dont type for an audience, nor do I speak in hopes of gaining respect. I simply say what I feel.
I may not like Jordan, its really no secret, but I'll offer him the respect of the truth, unabashed. With a little sarcasm which never hurt anyone.
Art my friend, I have a difficult time with you too. We all have our ups and downs, but you have lowered yourself beyond what I am capable of understanding many times with me, and with others too.
I dont want to be a part of "us"
its meaningless to me. Theres not a hint of need in me to cry out "I was in Elan!" I dont care. I dont want to care. I think maybe if I thought about it enough I would be as angry as all of you are and I DONT WANT TO BE!!!
Fuck ELAN!, get on with your damn lives!...One day youll look back on your life and ask yourself why you spent so much time thinking about Elan long after you left, yet thought only about the outside world when you were there!
Leave it in the past? Or let it destroy the present too?
I hate this site.
Doug
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Your right Doug,This site is like a car crash.You know it sucks but you look anyway. J.S.
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If u are a parent you need to go to ken's site when he can sugar coat everything for you and make you feel like you didn't do anything wrong. All of us here hate parents why would you kill you kids soul?
Go to kens group, get the fuvk outta here. We all think you sre s child abuser of the worst kind. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE, or ley me know when you've came to your senses and pulled yer kid out, you're looking for a life time of hated. It wont happen though untill a few years after yer kids been out.
A.l.m.
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P.s.- after your tearfilled sons graduation. watch the hatred towards you unfold, it wont be pretty. YOU ARE A FUCKING CHILD ABUSER. Drown your kid b4 you send them to elan, believe me they will appreciate it in the long run.
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On 2004-07-15 07:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Your right Doug,This site is like a car crash.You know it sucks but you look anyway. J.S."
J.S. ~ exactly.
Are you the J.S. I suspect?
Que Pasa?
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He wasnt talking about me. Sorry about the soccer thing. I still like you even though we didnt really knnow each other
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On 2004-07-15 07:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
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get the fuvk outta here. We all think you sre s child abuser of the worst kind. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE, or ley me know when you've came to your senses and pulled yer kid out, you're looking for a life time of hated. It wont happen though untill a few years after yer kids been out.
A.l.m."
This guy writes like a lawyer. If I didn't know better I would swear he had been to law school. How articulate! How literate!
J.E.M.
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Pre 1990 Elan education maybe?