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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: kpickle39 on June 17, 2004, 07:17:00 AM
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on a chat line. can't believe it! They said that if anyone advertises a website and someone else complains then the person advertising teh website gets kicked off aol.
What piece of crap thinking is that? Guess there aint no free speech on aol. :flame:
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I re-printed and re-published CRAPPLE "Sociable Deceived" and advertised thestraights.com on the CD insert. I gave one to Billy Bob Thorton when he was in Midland,TX filming "Friday Night Lights"
It will only take a few influential people to get the story out big time.
Good job Pickle. Fuck AOL
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You gotta be fucking kidding me!!!!!! Who told you about their policies? Did you complain? Damn!! What kind of shit is that??????
May your days be joyfully challenging and your words artfully true
-- Ginger Warbis SMA, `00
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Why the fuck would you want to waste time in an AOL chatroom?
I have nothing AOL at all anywhere on my computer and I get by just fine..In fact I do all kinds of shit on my puter and have never nor will I ever ever ever use AO fucking L.
They are fucking ridiculous in many ways.
On the other hand alot of sites and chat rooms have this rule...and its a good rule because it keeps spam and shit off of there...you must remember that for every well meaning person such as yourself theres like 50,000 people that wanna spam or load fucked up viruses into your computer..
You can still get the word out..after all you arent selling a product.
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PS...Is Scarstruck Triumvirate? Just checking.
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Mike, AOL sucks.
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(http://http://photos.friendster.com/photos/91/87/1777819/4499124292008l.jpg)
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Been there (or something like it), done that - I WANT the T-Shirt!
:rofl:
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I'm just shocked!!!
::hehehmm:: )
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I'm all ears!
::bigsmilebounce::
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Check your PMs. <
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You should have been kicked off of the planet for having been a 7Stepper.You tortured the people and you deserve no forgivness.
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You weren't talking to me, but I graduated too. Not by choice though. I'm tired of people saying that anyone who graduated abused people and should be condemned forever. I graduated and NEVER sat on anyone or physically hit anyone. I confronted people and I'll feel guilt until the day I die for the things that I'm sure I said. You have no idea what was going on in mine or anyone else's lives at the time. I've said before that I wish I'd have HAD the guts to leave, but I didn't. I was scared. My father told me that if I ran he would spend the rest of his life bringing me back. Anyone that even remotely knows my dad knows he doesn't make ANY idle threats. He was so far up Newton's ass that there was NO WAY I could have stayed gone. Around the Gandy bldg. he was referred to as 'Junior Newton'. I was 94 lbs. when I came in...I was NOT going to fight with anyone. I ended up sitting on first phase for 8 months the first time[/b]. Once I DID get out, I never looked back. Went to a couple of 7 Step meetings but then moved out of Dad's house and took off for good.
First it was staff that should be killed. OK, I can see that...they had a CHOICE to go on staff or not, but now we're down to anyone who graduated should be killed???????? The fatal pedagogical error is to throw answers, like stones, at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions.
Paul Tillich
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Thanks - I couldn't have said it better. I was going to flame the ass, but hey, I got better stuff to do w/my time.
Mike
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Regardless of your claiming to be a "victim too",you still fall short on my list.
You are like the concentration camp resident that was willing to clean out the ovens just for a "few more days".
You are among the weak ones,like the army chick posing with the dead iraqui.
Some of us were TORMENTED by people like you just so that you could "maintain your appearence" to the staff,so you could win your spot on the sideline of the group.
We are the MISBEHAVORS!The ones you punished daily because we are STRONGER than you,unwilling to torture others EVEN IF it could have prevented our own suffering.
You are the COMPLACENT ones.The world would be a better place if ALL of you would just top yourselves!And NOW you claim to want forgivness?
You had better pray everyday for forgivness from ALL of your gods because you will never have my forgivness!You will spend eternity in hell with Peterman,Sembler and all the others.
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On 2004-06-23 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Regardless of your claiming to be a "victim too",you still fall short on my list.
You are like the concentration camp resident that was willing to clean out the ovens just for a "few more days".
You are among the weak ones,like the army chick posing with the dead iraqui.
Some of us were TORMENTED by people like you just so that you could "maintain your appearence" to the staff,so you could win your spot on the sideline of the group.
We are the MISBEHAVORS!The ones you punished daily because we are STRONGER than you,unwilling to torture others EVEN IF it could have prevented our own suffering.
You are the COMPLACENT ones.The world would be a better place if ALL of you would just top yourselves!And NOW you claim to want forgivness?
You had better pray everyday for forgivness from ALL of your gods because you will never have my forgivness!You will spend eternity in hell with Peterman,Sembler and all the others."
ROFL!!!!!!!!!
Oh my god ... this is a riot! You poor "victims" of "concentration camp" and/or "Iraqui prisonor " abuse, must have NO IDEA how seriously OUT THERE you sound. How many years of your life are you going to continuing wasteing, CRYING about the HORRID abuse you experienced?! Paaaallllleeeezzzzzeeeee.
Everyone else is to blame for your sad little life, huh?!
You need to read some of the books written by Vicktor Frankl (REAL concentration camp survivor). Whether you were truley mistreated or just a rebellious, druggie teenager.. 10, 15, 20 years later you are no better off, because you think the SAME WAY as you did at 14 yrs of age.
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The difference is, as kids we didn't know better, but as adults, we have a choice.
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I don't give a rats ass about your forgiveness shithead.
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All "phasers" are scum and will be dealt with as such (if I ever see your face again!!!)with my hand squeezing your throats (all these years later)regardless if you were "just a kid".
I warn any of you who have been making contact with the people who post here,they are still creeps SO NEVER CONTACT THEM IN PERSON,ON THE PHONE,OR GIVE THEM YOUR REAL NAME OR ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION.Do NOT trust ANYBODY you may meet here on this message board-THIS INCLUDES THE "FAMOUS" ONES!SOME PEOPLE (the "regulars" here) are the most dangerous and DO NOT have your best interest at heart!!!Be careful.KEEP YOUR PRIVACY FROM ANYBODY you may meet here.TELEPHONE NOBODY!They will use you for their own purposes and only want to clear their own name -because they played such a PUBLIC PART (cant deny)in abusing children for money/"freedom"!
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Just Kids??You call a 17 or 18 or 19 year old beating up on a 12 or 13 or 14 year old "just kids"???
All phasers are scum,ESPECIALLY 7Steppers!
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Mindy ?
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no.These "is" NOT. (Mindy)
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Mork?
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Well the fact that you use the term 7 Steppers pretty much dates when you were involved with Straight. So all these years later you still want to strangle your old comers? Wow but you were the strong one? Huh?
Oh please do share your advise on how I to can be one of the STRONG ones. Please those of us weak ones who have at least learned to have a discussion about Straight w/o threatening violence really could use your help!
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On 2004-06-23 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Regardless of your claiming to be a "victim too",you still fall short on my list.
Nowhere in that post will you find the word victim and who gives a shit about your "list"?
And NOW you claim to want forgivness?
I don't remember asking for forgiveness. As a matter of fact, I distinctly remember writing that there's nothing to be forgiven for.Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
--Rep. Robert L. Henry, TX December 22, 1914 (quoting Lincoln)
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On 2004-06-25 09:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well the fact that you use the term 7 Steppers pretty much dates when you were involved with Straight. So all these years later you still want to strangle your old comers? Wow but you were the strong one? Huh?
Oh please do share your advise on how I to can be one of the STRONG ones. Please those of us weak ones who have at least learned to have a discussion about Straight w/o threatening violence really could use your help!"
Encore! SO true ... please train the rest of us to be like YOU ( you STRONG misbehaving "victims") (NOT!!!) Ha Ha
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"Use of the term 7 stepper"???
It was a long time ago.
The technique to be the strongest:Never do anything they instruct you to do.Never submit when they use pain to torture you.
Anytime you can slip a limb free,use it to kick or punch the nearest person,regardless of their phase.
All 7steppers are scum,even today.
I warned you about trusting any personal information to these whackos today.
I will kill any of you that have tortured me in the past,if I ever run in to you in the public.
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I was told yesterday that when someone tried to reach my site "The 8th Step" ( h :question:
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On 2004-06-27 02:58:00, Kathy wrote:
"I was told yesterday that when someone tried to reach my site "The 8th Step" ( h :question: "
And the link above won't work because you emoted in the middle of the "http" :wink:
[ This Message was edited by: Sara-1984 on 2004-06-27 04:45 ]
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I don't know about your place but is Sarasota the 7th steppers usualy never came in but for open meeting or a refresher. Now prior to the 7th step they were 5th phasers and that was when you got the brunt of the shit from future 7th steppers. I never 7th stepped, but if I did I am certain that during those times and the brutality I suffered I would have been broken too and would have complied with my captures, by what ever means they deemed necessary.
The problem I have with the 7th step society ect.. is that after 20 or so years with the knowledge we have gained and with the studies now being published......
HOW CAN YOU SAY IT WAS A GOOD PLACE HOW CAN THEY DEFEND IT????
How can anyone after all these years believe that what happened to all of us was OK??? That it saved our lives??? Made us better people???
This is why I am angry. I am angry at the fact that people still defend this CRAP.
When I run into straightlings, and I do quite often, I give them a chance to be human. I could attack them as I have seen others do, but I find it easier and less stressful to let them sink themselves.
People are blind just like I was. There was one time in my life that I thought I was the sick one and that straight was great...... After YEARS of therapy and well just becoming wiser, I found the truth. Just as I am sure that eventualy it will come to light that others who still defend the Straights will become aware and thats when they need us most. So I try (and not always with success) to be nice and hope that they are just afraid of the fact that everything they beleived throughout their life has been based on a lie and abuse. Hell I pitty them.
Thank you for letting me share
Sammie
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""The requested resource is currently locked. The lock must be released or proper identification given before the method can be applied. ""
I get this prompt multiple times on your site. and I DON'T have aol.
I found more info at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark, ... ~mode=flat (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9680538~mode=flat)
seems to be a verizon thing.
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Here it is, pardon the above broken link.
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um yah I see that now. OOPS!
http://www.the8thstep.com (http://www.the8thstep.com)
:lol:
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On 2004-06-27 04:37:00, Sara-1984 wrote:
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On 2004-06-27 02:58:00, Kathy wrote:
"I was told yesterday that when someone tried to reach my site "The 8th Step" ( h :question: "
And the link above won't work because you emoted in the middle of the "http" :wink:
[ This Message was edited by: Sara-1984 on 2004-06-27 04:45 ]"
This is what I was replying to.
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On 2004-06-27 07:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Here it is, pardon the above broken link.
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Thanks for the link. Looks like a problem I can't do much about. So, unless anyone has any other ideas... I'm stuck with it. Hey, you get what you pay for.
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My technique to fight these scum worked.
My last day of "group",I was led into the office by an execuitive staff member,put in a chair and was told "When you learn how to behave properly you will be allowed to return to group".Then I walked to my mothers car in the parking lot and never saw the place again.
I was only ever 1st phase,and even they put me in my mothers house with 2 "oldcommers" for about a week while I was a 1st phaser,then I was "let go" from the program.
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On 2004-06-27 09:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My technique to fight these scum worked.
My last day of "group",I was led into the office by an execuitive staff member,put in a chair and was told "When you learn how to behave properly you will be allowed to return to group".Then I walked to my mothers car in the parking lot and never saw the place again.
I was only ever 1st phase,and even they put me in my mothers house with 2 "oldcommers" for about a week while I was a 1st phaser,then I was "let go" from the program."
Now That's interesting - how in the hell did ya manage that one? :eek:
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On 2004-06-27 01:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
""Use of the term 7 stepper"???
It was a long time ago.
The technique to be the strongest:Never do anything they instruct you to do.Never submit when they use pain to torture you.
Anytime you can slip a limb free,use it to kick or punch the nearest person,regardless of their phase.
All 7steppers are scum,even today.
I warned you about trusting any personal information to these whackos today.
I will kill any of you that have tortured me in the past,if I ever run in to you in the public."
You know, you're choosing to be miserable your entire life with that way of thinking. Why do you want to torture yourself like that? Is your own happiness worth sacrificing? Move on. Stop letting the past dictate your present and future. You are in control of the choices you make. You have no one to blame now, except you. Take responsibility for the choices you have made in the past, and the ones you are making right now.
Personally, I got tired of anger running my life. It made me miserable, and was self-defeating. It added nothing to my life but loneliness, and discontentment. It also held me back from ever trusting, which kept me from experiencing love.
(My .02 )
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I did it by NOT GIVING IN (like all 7Stepper Scum).
When I was led out from the group,I am SURE they were all told that I was being sent to the "4 year program",the one where they shave your head and you have to wake up at 4:30AM every morning.
I think they just realised that my mother was not a bottomless pit of money,so I was "let go".Also I kicked everybody in the face and throat as often as I could.
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Well hopefully not everyone you kicked in the face and throat feels the same way you do...or watch your back.
Oh but wait, you were probably the only one wronged in the whole building. I mean you are the only one deserving of carrying a grudge this long am I right? I mean those people who yelled at you and held you captive deserve to be attacked. But you should be forgiven for kicking people when ever you felt like it in the face and throat? You see you are so busy pointing fingers and calling others abusers you can't see the gaping hole in your logic. Yes they tried to abuse you...but you were an abuser also. HULLO it's called physical abuse. Which makes you a culprit also...imagine that.
So wait no more!! I say seize the moment take it out on yourself!!
Unless your the only person who counts here.
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I am not among the abusers.I was being tortured and when my limb slipped free I hit them EVERY TIME.I never participated in abuse to others because I was INSTRUCTED to.I never had any person under my control.
I arrived to the program alone,and I departed the program alone.
I am quite capable of watching MY back,but I do not have to (when it concerns the program).
You will be beat if I know your face and I EVER see you again (those from my program).
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My hero....going to beat up people that wronged him when he was 15.
Whatta man!
How galiant...how heroic..how brave...how macho...
how stupid.
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The point is you were an abuser. Sorry but kicking people in the face and throat by definition is physically abusive. Straight won that battle face it. No matter how you played the game you were abusive. Some emotionally others physically but all abusive. Even the people you never spoke and never hit anyone carved on their own limbs...self abuse. The point is you can't live in an environment like Straight without reacting to it in some way. The whole model was set up to "break" the person in one way or another. So you still want to kill people from your program?
Wow all these years later Straight is still winning.
I heard your strong theory...guess it all depends on your point of view.
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On 2004-06-25 09:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well the fact that you use the term 7 Steppers pretty much dates when you were involved with Straight. So all these years later you still want to strangle your old comers? Wow but you were the strong one? Huh?
Oh please do share your advise on how I to can be one of the STRONG ones. Please those of us weak ones who have at least learned to have a discussion about Straight w/o threatening violence really could use your help!"
EDIT: I meant to quote the other guy thats allpissed but misquoted another post and too lazy to fix it**
I dont think that every graduate is to blame..I have said, in the past, the same thing you are saying ...but..no longer feel that way.
Are there people to blame? Yes. Where does the blame lay ? Exe staff? Creator of program? Sr staff? Any staff? 3rd phase and above? only your oldcomers?your parents? yourself? noone? everyone?
Its a fine line and a blurry line..the point is kicking someones ass isnt gonna make you feel better. Its gonna hurt them and mabey you..
What if you do? What if you win the fight...and what if you accidentaly get a good hard blow into the head that kills him/her? What if you cause a blood clot?
You know starting a fistfight...can be so much more dangerous than you realize? Even if the initial fight ends with noone seriously hurt..it causes retaliation...that person may stew over what you did to them..and you cant watch yer back all the time..Hell even if you did ...do you realize how easy it is for someone to get into your house, silently, while you sleep, even if you have an alarm system?
Ok Im getting off topic here..But I just dont think tracking people down and starting shit is the way to get revenge..
You know there are kids going thru Straight right this second? Some in the same buildings as you? Oh, they changed the name, and have fresh faces on staff...
What happened to us is done and will never be taken back or changed..
You can do things to work to get these places exposed and stopped..that would do so much more than beating up (insert person you hated from program thats ..prolly feels so guilty they are miserable anyway and you dont even realize it)
Anyway I hope you think your way through this and do whats right for you and makes you happy bro..
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Wont you be my neighbor?[ This Message was edited by: Scarstruck on 2004-06-29 21:52 ][ This Message was edited by: Scarstruck on 2004-06-29 21:52 ]
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I dont ever get the opportunity to see the faces of these criminals (7Steppers),but when I do I will kill them.
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On 2004-06-29 23:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I dont ever get the opportunity to see the faces of these criminals (7Steppers),but when I do I will kill them."
You'll lick their asses, suck their cocks and drink their piss; that is all you ever do.
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Drinking cock and piss?Is that all you can come up with?
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On 2004-06-29 23:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I dont ever get the opportunity to see the faces of these criminals (7Steppers),but when I do I will kill them."
Think about this, all of us 7-steppers put up with and dealt with many more punks than just yourself. Don't you think we'd have learned something from all of this. Could it be that one thing we learned was how to keep our asses from being kick by punks such as yourself? I have been threatened by people that scare me. You, however, are not one of them.
CL
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If you are one of my abusers,and I recognize your face,then I will kill you.Is that your skill,not being seen?Maybe I have not killed you because I have never met you.
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On 2004-12-08 20:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you are one of my abusers,and I recognize your face,then I will kill you.Is that your skill,not being seen?Maybe I have not killed you because I have never met you."
Wow. You had to go all the way back to July to pull that out. Trolling trolling trolling.....Rawhide!!!
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Pulling some of my favorite ones to the top of the page.Ever scroll down there?Lots of unfinished business to catch up on.