Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2004, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2004, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: Morbid_Opiate on June 15, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
We ought to be grateful that our government monopoly schools are such a failure. If today's 18 year olds could do arithmetic, they'd be out buying enough rope to hang everybody over 40.
--Alan Handleman on Social Security
Post by: shawnarnow on June 15, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
Please enjoy my Art :lol:
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
Until the US government changes the fighting policy to a different tactic, we will never be over with this. This goes for the whole world too. We keep making the same mistakes. We won?t win the hearts and minds of people. People around the world will hate us. This will be just like Israel and Palestine. I just think there has to be a new and better way. We should kill them with kindness, not retaliation.
What would have happened if we had just given people the money and food that it cost to support this war.
Check this out,
We have spent 100 billion on the Iraq war to date. Iraq has a population of 22,219,289 as of a 1997 census. We have spent 4500 US dollars for every man woman and child in Iraq. I just think the resources could have been better spent and saved lives too. I don?t know about you but money motivates people. I think the average Joe Iraqi with a family of four would have been dumbfounded to receive 18,000 USD$.
I know this is a ridicules argument and could never happen, but in my dream, I just see the US on the boarder with a huge pile of money. Fucking 10 stories high. All Iraq has to do is deliver Saddam and the WMD's if they exist. Now that?s done, everyone can go on a one-month vacation! Cool,
Ok, I know, go have another hit from the TBPITFW
Peace all, there just has to be a better way, or we are all doomed!
What?s ultimately stronger in the end? What?s more far reaching? An act of kindness or an act of aggression? What is the solution to war? Winning the hearts and minds of people. Getting the average person to change his mind to support you!
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
I can think of better ways to spend the money. 340.70$ each is a lot!
Damn,
1oo billion cost for Iraq war / our US population of 293,510,491
Let's think out of the box...........
debate!
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2004, 11:44:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2004, 03:35:00 AM
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On 2004-06-15 11:10:00, Morbid_Opiate wrote:
"Torture all those fucking Towl Heads.,...give me a break Annon, goe save the fucking seals or something. You bleeding Heart Fuck :wave:We ought to be grateful that our government monopoly schools are such a failure. If today's 18 year olds could do arithmetic, they'd be out buying enough rope to hang everybody over 40.
--Alan Handleman on Social Security
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We all know that Morid Opiate is the Patriot.
Patriot, what did you do in the military? supply clerk that is now a bad ass riding a motorcycle talking shit about "towelheads" and "sandniggers." Right now I have friends in the special forces touring Iraq and North Korea. They e-mail me often.
NONE of them would publically insult the people of those countries like you did here. It's the jackasses in our military, like you, that are causing big problems for our country. When my friends dance with death secretly and than pussies like you talk tough shit, it makes me and them sick. Get back to pushing papers and keep your insults to yourself. Keep talking tough and one of them might come back and slap you off your mini bike.
Post by: Cayo Hueso on June 17, 2004, 09:13:00 AM
I wouldn't go poking this thing with a stick unless you have some real experience in it yourself.
The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's no good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.
--Carl Sagan
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2004, 09:47:00 AM
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On 2004-06-16 19:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"How do you motivate an entire country to support you? Shoot at them? Bomb them? I don?t generally like it when people do that to me do you? When I get shot at I get really pissed off, it can ruin a perfectly good day!
Until the US government changes the fighting policy to a different tactic, we will never be over with this. This goes for the whole world too. We keep making the same mistakes. We won?t win the hearts and minds of people. People around the world will hate us. This will be just like Israel and Palestine. I just think there has to be a new and better way. We should kill them with kindness, not retaliation.
What would have happened if we had just given people the money and food that it cost to support this war.
Check this out,
We have spent 100 billion on the Iraq war to date. Iraq has a population of 22,219,289 as of a 1997 census. We have spent 4500 US dollars for every man woman and child in Iraq. I just think the resources could have been better spent and saved lives too. I don?t know about you but money motivates people. I think the average Joe Iraqi with a family of four would have been dumbfounded to receive 18,000 USD$.
I know this is a ridicules argument and could never happen, but in my dream, I just see the US on the boarder with a huge pile of money. Fucking 10 stories high. All Iraq has to do is deliver Saddam and the WMD's if they exist. Now that?s done, everyone can go on a one-month vacation! Cool,
Ok, I know, go have another hit from the TBPITFW
Peace all, there just has to be a better way, or we are all doomed!
What?s ultimately stronger in the end? What?s more far reaching? An act of kindness or an act of aggression? What is the solution to war? Winning the hearts and minds of people. Getting the average person to change his mind to support you!
"
Your right this can never happen. Your plan to take roses and tons of money is an illusion. My main problem is how the US has come to live under a veil of political correctness that the rest of the world doesn't seem to have to follow. There was a world wide scandal over the soldiers and their treatment of prisoners. OK but where is the scandal about beheading a man on tape slowly or car bombings etc. I believe in accountability absolutely, but how can the US be judged when the scales are so tipped? Certainly we should (as they say)take the high road and stick to the Geneva Convention guidelines...in a perfect world. However, in a perfect world so would they. With all this being said I abhor the idea of another innocent person being mistreated. But what about their own killing of civilians? My main issue is I believe the world should be disgusted when any country kills, mames, or tortures someone not just the US. But alas it seems in these days of PC soldiers this is but my illusion.
Post by: thepatriot on June 17, 2004, 10:15:00 AM
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On 2004-06-17 00:35:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-06-15 11:10:00, Morbid_Opiate wrote:
"Torture all those fucking Towl Heads.,...give me a break Annon, goe save the fucking seals or something. You bleeding Heart Fuck :wave:We ought to be grateful that our government monopoly schools are such a failure. If today's 18 year olds could do arithmetic, they'd be out buying enough rope to hang everybody over 40.
--Alan Handleman on Social Security
"
We all know that Morid Opiate is the Patriot.
Patriot, what did you do in the military? supply clerk that is now a bad ass riding a motorcycle talking shit about "towelheads" and "sandniggers." Right now I have friends in the special forces touring Iraq and North Korea. They e-mail me often.
NONE of them would publically insult the people of those countries like you did here. It's the jackasses in our military, like you, that are causing big problems for our country. When my friends dance with death secretly and than pussies like you talk tough shit, it makes me and them sick. Get back to pushing papers and keep your insults to yourself. Keep talking tough and one of them might come back and slap you off your mini bike. "
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Post by: thepatriot on June 17, 2004, 10:19:00 AM
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On 2004-06-17 07:15:00, thepatriot wrote:
"LOL...it was meant to be facious there Reagan and no I was not a supply clerk nice try, you need to lighten up and get a sense of humor. You have no clue as to what I did or experianced in the military . As far as being a jackass hey fuckyou I spent 14 months with the 2nd Ranger Battalion you have no idea of what I have experianced. If you can't see humor in a sarcastic comment go fuck yourself. You sit safely behing you little computer while people have actually laid their ass on the line be it now or in the past. And if you think you are bad enough to slap me off my "mini bike" bring it little man you DONT have the NADS. I spent better than seven years doing only what you wished your sorry punk ass is capable of. I spent time on the DMZ in Korea as well as Panama and a few other places, you have no clue as to what goes on. And yes every body knows Morbid is me thats why I used that alias so they would not take it serious you fucking idiot.Quote
On 2004-06-17 00:35:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-06-15 11:10:00, Morbid_Opiate wrote:
"Torture all those fucking Towl Heads.,...give me a break Annon, goe save the fucking seals or something. You bleeding Heart Fuck :wave:We ought to be grateful that our government monopoly schools are such a failure. If today's 18 year olds could do arithmetic, they'd be out buying enough rope to hang everybody over 40.
--Alan Handleman on Social Security
"
We all know that Morid Opiate is the Patriot.
Patriot, what did you do in the military? supply clerk that is now a bad ass riding a motorcycle talking shit about "towelheads" and "sandniggers." Right now I have friends in the special forces touring Iraq and North Korea. They e-mail me often.
NONE of them would publically insult the people of those countries like you did here. It's the jackasses in our military, like you, that are causing big problems for our country. When my friends dance with death secretly and than pussies like you talk tough shit, it makes me and them sick. Get back to pushing papers and keep your insults to yourself. Keep talking tough and one of them might come back and slap you off your mini bike. "
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Sarasota Straight Escapee[ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2004-06-17 07:16 ]"
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Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2004, 11:39:00 AM
I preped about 9 months for special forces.
I got denied because of my "morals" I thought an escape charge would help prove my SEER ability but it got my security clearence denied.
I have more ideas than you think
I am capable of more than you think
I have more nads than you think.
I am kinda skinny, but not little.
I am glad to hear that you were joking.
I did think you were really promoting that shit.
Thanks for the biker cartoon.
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2004, 11:42:00 AM
Post by: thepatriot on June 17, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2004, 11:51:00 AM
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On 2004-06-17 08:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"so then is this a special forces wannabe who's just jealous because he couldn't make it?"
I have no regrets
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2004, 01:03:00 PM
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On 2004-06-17 06:13:00, cayohueso wrote:
"Of course they wouldn't....they're on active duty. I spoke to my stepdad today...Vietnam vet...he and his special forces buddies ALL refer to the Vietnamese as "gooks". I don't think it's particularly appropriate, but hey they're the ones who went through the shit over there, not me.
I wouldn't go poking this thing with a stick unless you have some real experience in it yourself.The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral"
depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's no good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.
--Carl Sagan
Not all of our troops are like that. It's just the ones making headline news.
Post by: Scarstruck on June 18, 2004, 04:53:00 AM
You should be happy they didnt accept you.
Post by: thepatriot on June 18, 2004, 07:58:00 AM
Its not for everyone but its a great way to pay for 4 years of college if you have no other means. Comraderie and friendships, I have life long friends that would do anything for me or me for them.
If we didn't have people "throwing their lives away in the military" your ass would be jones'in for your methadone under another countries flag. And I doubt they would have a tax payer funded meth program, probably just throw their junkies in jail to rot.
Ok Therion....go ahead and flame me :wave: :wave: :wave: [ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2004-06-18 04:59 ]
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2004, 05:55:00 PM
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On 2004-06-18 04:58:00, thepatriot wrote:
"Well I guess "throwing your life away in the military" is better than throwing it away on smack.
Its not for everyone but its a great way to pay for 4 years of college if you have no other means. Comraderie and friendships, I have life long friends that would do anything for me or me for them.
If we didn't have people "throwing their lives away in the military" your ass would be jones'in for your methadone under another countries flag. And I doubt they would have a tax payer funded meth program, probably just throw their junkies in jail to rot.
Ok Therion....go ahead and flame me :wave: :wave: :wave: [ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2004-06-18 04:59 ]"
Im with you patriot