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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 15, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
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Dr. Phil Today's part 2 show - a "structured intervention" for a 21 yr old drug addict.
http://www.drphil.com/show/show_landing ... LARAYIRNWQ (http://www.drphil.com/show/show_landing.jhtml;jsessionid=TZEO3DUB1J3VRLARAYIRNWQ)
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On 2004-06-15 07:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Dr. Phil Today's part 2 show - a "structured intervention" for a 21 yr old drug addict.
http://www.drphil.com/show/show_landing ... LARAYIRNWQ (http://www.drphil.com/show/show_landing.jhtml;jsessionid=TZEO3DUB1J3VRLARAYIRNWQ)"
I think I've seen this. Apparently the kid was sent to a CLINICAL program - was heavy into the opiates and needed medical intervention as well.
But the parents and Dr. Phil were using a lot of the same catch phrases we've all heard, but - some of it made sense.
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Dr Phil needs to be assfucked in a bad way...by a line of large black men
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All drug treatment is bullshit. I'd rather be lying in a gutter, dead :skull: of an OD than sitting in a 12Stepcult meeting.
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No drug treatment is Bullshit, I boast 12000 gradutes of my successful Straight program. Love yourself RTP
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I'm outtie I am off to flame some of those whining bastards on the alum site. But I will be back to deal with all you druggies. STRAIGHT IS GREAT!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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On 2004-06-16 01:48:00, RTP2003 wrote:
"All drug treatment is bullshit. I'd rather be lying in a gutter, dead :skull: of an OD than sitting in a 12Stepcult meeting.
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That's just not true. Clinical treatment can be very helpful. The 12 steps can be useful tools. We were conditioned, because of our bad experience, to hear those words and be repelled, but that doesn't mean all treatment is necessarily bad. People sometimes need help, it's a fact.
On the other hand, I will say that I don't think interventions work. People have to hit their personal bottom, and decide they need help on their own. No amount of force will ever convince a drug addict they need help. No matter how much love it is said with. The only circumstance where this is an exception, is with a spouse, but even with a spouse, you have to give them a choice. Example: "If you continue to use [insert drug of choice here] I will leave. I love you, but I can't live with you while you destroy yourself, it's up to you."
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STRAIGHT IS GREAT STRAIGHT IS GREAT STRAIGHT IS GREEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
Put that in your hooka's and smoke it you druggies :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Besides how I feel about intervention and treatment...I think Dr. Phil is Satan. I mean...he really REALLY creeps me out, that man is not right.
If I ever had to speak to him or even just meet him...I would run. There is something inherently WRONG with that man. I feel about him the same way I do about Sembler...only he is the Sembler of everything. Does that make sense?
Anyhow...poopoo on Dr. Phil....yeeeechhh.
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Dr. Phil:
He spells out one of the most deadly myths about drug and alcohol addiction: The belief that a person has to "hit bottom" before turning it around and getting help. "That myth has probably killed as many people as any mistruth I have ever heard," explains Dr. Phil. "It is absolutely untrue. Because bottom may be six feet under. He's ready for help now because he's still alive, he's still using, and there's still hope to turn this kid's life around."
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On 2004-06-16 13:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr. Phil:
He spells out one of the most deadly myths about drug and alcohol addiction: The belief that a person has to "hit bottom" before turning it around and getting help. "That myth has probably killed as many people as any mistruth I have ever heard," explains Dr. Phil. "It is absolutely untrue. Because bottom may be six feet under. He's ready for help now because he's still alive, he's still using, and there's still hope to turn this kid's life around."
It's not a myth, it's the truth. Sadly, six feet under is sometimes that truth. People need to choose for themselves when they're ready to change, by suffering the consequences of their own actions. If they haven't done that, the changes they make will most likely be temporary, and not done because they really wanted it for themselves. We've all learned what trying to force someone to change can do. I don't agree with Dr. Phil.
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Phil makes me sick, no doubt about it. You gotta wonder about these people who so willingly expose the most painful secrets of their lives on national TV. What would posess them??
Phil and his ilk exploit them every day. This whole 'cookie cutter' approach to therapy or counseling or whatever fucking label it's plastered with is really pathetic. No therapist or counselor worth their salt would EVER approve such methods. Tell us all your sob story so I can get bigger and better ratings and make bigger and better money.Tough Love: Abuse of a type particularly enjoyable to the abuser, in that it combines the pleasures of sadism with those of self-righteousness. Commonly employed and widely admired in 12-step groups.
--Chaz Bufe
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Tell us all your sob story so I can get bigger and better ratings and make bigger and better money.
Exactly.
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I am Dr Phils Mentor as well as my buddy Newton, now love yourself Druggies :lol: :lol:
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Is Phil helping you work out your erectile dysfunction?? :lol: :lol:
Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
--Edward Everett
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Why ahhh yes he is actually :idea:
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Is that thing sitting in some evidence locker somewhere???? And.....is Mel really going to want it back after this is over????
I didn't intend for this to take on a political tone, I'm just here for the drugs.
--First Lady, Nancy Reagan at a Just Say No rally
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On 2004-06-16 13:45:00, cayohueso wrote:
"Phil makes me sick, no doubt about it. You gotta wonder about these people who so willingly expose the most painful secrets of their lives on national TV. What would posess them??
Phil and his ilk exploit them every day. This whole 'cookie cutter' approach to therapy or counseling or whatever fucking label it's plastered with is really pathetic. No therapist or counselor worth their salt would EVER approve such methods. Tell us all your sob story so I can get bigger and better ratings and make bigger and better money.Tough Love: Abuse of a type particularly enjoyable to the abuser, in that it combines the pleasures of sadism with those of self-righteousness. Commonly employed and widely admired in 12-step groups.
--Chaz Bufe
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This is why therapy belongs on a couch behind closed doors, and not in a spectator arena, a la Jerry Springer.
Phil McGraw has some good psychological principles...(no, I don't agree with his intervention tactics) but - I never understood how this show can air without a breech of Doctor/Patient privelege. I'm sure there's a waiver and an attorney behind it somewhere.
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Who put that idiot on TV in the firstplace? Housewives who watch Oprah?
All of that stuff is just bullshit...I mean really, how is this not obvious to anyone that hasnt been totally sheltered all of their lives?
Stop supporting this crap. Dont watch it....as long as there are viewers they will continue to derail any good real information out there and push this bullshit.
I dont need Dr Phil or Oprah making any decisions, pointing things out their way, or giving me advice at all.
They are so far out of touch with the real world..
Oprah? Come on shes a fucking trillionaire..theres no way shes grounded enough to give the everyday person needed advice...
In my opinion shes basically in that whole Nancy Reagan, George W crowd ..
If she had a show in 1978 she probably would have done shows glorifying Straight Inc and Art Barker, you know ?
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I sent him an email the day this post started. I let him know about "treatment abuse". 'Course, I won't hear a damn thing from them. Imagine that...the truth is too much for him to bear. I'm not gonna let up. I'll send Phil so many emails, they are gonna have to block my address.
kpickle39 and PISSED!
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Actually Oprah did a show and included some Straightlings in the 90's (1991 I think.) I was supposed to be on the show since I was the youngest person in Striaght at the time. I had a scheme all worked out...but alas since I hadn't done drugs they replaced me with someone else. A little older but with a longer drug list. All the show producers wanted was the youngest possible "druggie" to play on the horror and simpathy of the public. Of course Straight was more than happy to parade a few sob stories for them.