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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on May 20, 2004, 05:10:00 PM
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http://www.LifeReunion.com (http://www.LifeReunion.com)
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An advisory is really needed under the link.
If you've never wanted to see that building again - BEWARE!
They're revering it as if it were the World Trade Center.... ::puke::
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Oh can we PLEEEZE keep this topic alive? I'm really interested in knowing if the poster of the LIFE reunion site is interested in a pat on the back or a good debate!
I've been through the site - don't recognize many names. Anyone... Anyone????
I also saw something interesting on their message board about "the blonde bombshell" being there... could it BE? I wonder what Ms. Pete's been up to these days???
:smokin: :smokin:
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can we talk about life?
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I saw that blond bombshell remark too. I was told that there was going to be alot of exec staff at this reunion. Honestly there are some people that I would not mind seeing but there is no exec staff that I would have any desire to see.
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Ace is the Place
by 85 Day Jerk
There's so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets?
-- Dick Cavett
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Well, that's what I thought that's what this little piece of Fornits was for!
As far as catching up with anyone at that reunion, I'd only be interested in catching up with the executive staff!
Other than Ms. Pete, I'd love to run into Judy (last name unknown) - she was senior staff. After I finally got out of there, she called my house every day for a week to tell me what a mistake I was making. I don't know if it was her - but there was another female staff member that threatened to come to my house to come get me.
Ah... anyway... But unfortunately, I will be too busy to go to the reunion. I'll be too busy enjoying myself that weekend, taking a breather from the great job I was told I'd never have, and well - just basically doing everything I ever wanted to do - that I was told I could NEVER do with my "bad attitude".
Or I could RSVP - this could be fun! :lol:
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Anon -
How did you find out about this Life Reunion web site? I tried a search and couldn't locate it.
Lynn
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On 2004-05-29 15:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Anon -
How did you find out about this Life Reunion web site? I tried a search and couldn't locate it.
Lynn"
Yes, how DID you find this little gem? :razz:
I've searched, metasearched... gone out and hiked the web for a while, and I can't find DIDDLY on L.I.F.E. except for this site and thestraights.com.
I'm finding it hard to believe that that's the only site in existence.
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Yes, how DID you find this little gem? :razz:
I've searched, metasearched... gone out and hiked the web for a while, and I can't find DIDDLY on L.I.F.E. except for this site and thestraights.com.
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I have looked for stuff about LIFE for a long time and could never find anything. I saw a few articles about Helen Peterman but nothing directly about LIFE. I have rarely met anyone from there so it is almost like it didn't exist. I will say that the picture of the building on the website was enough to make me nauseous and have a nightmare about being trapped in the Rez. I will not be going to the reunion.
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I have looked for stuff about LIFE for a long time and could never find anything. I saw a few articles about Helen Peterman but nothing directly about LIFE. I have rarely met anyone from there so it is almost like it didn't exist. I will say that the picture of the building on the website was enough to make me nauseous and have a nightmare about being trapped in the Rez. I will not be going to the reunion."
Trapped in the rez? I don't remember that term. Hey - when I went back, it looked like they built some buildings in the back - was that like a residential dorm? Is that what you're talking about? Eeeek - I don't know which would be worse, personally - some oldcomer's houses or locked in the Peterman Penitentiary.
::cheers::
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I would not miss it for the world,make sure you bring fire safety equip. and bullet proof vest
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Maybe that bitch Ms. Pete will be there. I'd like to tell her a thing or two, or three!!!!
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Talking = good
Bullets = bad
Get a GRIP!! ::noway::
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Get there early if you want to see her,her body bag will not be transparent.Dont stand too close though.She has enemies.
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Okay - I'm not entertaining this moron anymore.
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Would still like to hear from the thinking people out there.
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On 2004-06-02 00:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Get there early if you want to see her,her body bag will not be transparent.Dont stand too close though.She has enemies."
Is your "brain bag" transparent? Cause obviously your brain is DOA! What... are you about 14 yrs old? HA
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Oh,you LOVE Petermen?Cant pull your mouth off of her ass can you?She has enemies and I doubt if you will be able to shake her hand,or they have some plainclothes security guards to watch the place during the event.In any cas,dont wear your favorite clothes because you may get her brain materials splattered on them(if you are lucky).
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On 2004-06-02 18:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Oh,you LOVE Petermen?Cant pull your mouth off of her ass can you?She has enemies and I doubt if you will be able to shake her hand,or they have some plainclothes security guards to watch the place during the event.In any cas,dont wear your favorite clothes because you may get her brain materials splattered on them(if you are lucky)."
CASE in point.
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Oh,you LOVE Petermen?Cant pull your mouth off of her ass can you?She has enemies and I doubt if you will be able to shake her hand,or they have some plainclothes security guards to watch the place during the event.In any cas,dont wear your favorite clothes because you may get her brain materials splattered on them(if you are lucky).
I think you must be her best buddy. If you really wanted her dead, you wouldn't be giving her 2 months advanced warning. Besides, this isn't about revenge. Self defence is a different story, though.
I was in LIFE during the first half of '87. Peterman slapped me around pretty good. I was also put in a "bench restraint" for a couple of hours once, and couldn't move my arms afterward -- *very* painful. Could have avoided it all if they just would have let me leave. Finally did leave on second phase and I'm still alive today (imagine that).
Anyway, I live in the area and I'm thinking about stopping by and seeing some of those people. I do recognize several of the names. Most of them were staff. I really hope they aren't thinking about starting another program.
Shane Partain
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I was in LIFE during the first half of '87. Peterman slapped me around pretty good. I was also put in a "bench restraint" for a couple of hours once, and couldn't move my arms afterward -- *very* painful. Could have avoided it all if they just would have let me leave. Finally did leave on second phase and I'm still alive today (imagine that).
Bench restraint... is that when two or three people would link arms with you and throw their legs over you and immobilize you on those horrible pews?
Anyway, I live in the area and I'm thinking about stopping by and seeing some of those people. I do recognize several of the names. Most of them were staff. I really hope they aren't thinking about starting another program.
Shane Partain
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:scared: Oh GOD let's hope not :scared:
I would LOVE to go to this shindig. Unfortunately that is the weekend I have a conference scheduled out of state.
So, I'm sorry I'm going to miss going to Bradenton, listening to Happy Lifers 'having a song' around a plastic punchbowl, and mourning the old days of writing MI's, torturing - I mean HOUSING, yes... Housing newcomers, and trying to remember 'program words and prases'. Oh.. they might even "motivate" in retro-regard when a Staff Member has the floor to speak.
I'm just sorry I'm going to have to miss all this! :roll:
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I have the highest respect for Shane.Your internet information has been shared by me to many others.
I hope you will have the benefit of hearing the news that Pissermen gets hers and hard too.
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Bench restraint... is that when two or three people would link arms with you and throw their legs over you and immobilize you on those horrible pews?
Yep, that's it. I had a lot of other nasty experiences there, too -- like most of us did. Shortly after I left, the staff at LIFE helped my parents plan a kidnapping. They lured me in and took me by force to Bethel, in Mississippi. I came very close to becoming another one of those "compressional asphyxiation" statistics. Like the names with the '+' signs: http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html) Fat guys should not sit on skinny kids' backs!
I have the highest respect for Shane.
Thanks. I've actually been into this internet inactivism thing for a couple of years. Had a little success, laid low for a while. I figured I'm ready to start getting stalked and harrassed again. :evil:
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I think this board full of Cliquers.
Shane,if you get your own website then I will support.I think FAGER is a screwball,or at least thats what his website looks leads me to think(and EVERY professional I have shown the website too).There is no room for forgiving the SARASOTA guilty,building contractors,judges,teachers/school board,etc.etc.SARASOTA does not like to get egg on the face.BILL ZOELLER (spelling im not sure)is a builder/architecht(in phone book sarasota many with that name living on Siesta Key paradise.TIME to wake them up(This guy once told me "You know you all deserved it".Sarasota must fess up.I am under the sarasota govt"s skin right now for personal matters(and they know Im pissed off about the program)It is also that I may be amongst the most famous of their newcommers.The remember me,and its been my business to keep reminding them(they hate egg on their face).If you want war with them then I am your soldier.
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On 2004-06-04 00:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I think this board full of Cliquers.
Shane,if you get your own website then I will support.I think FAGER is a screwball,or at least thats what his website looks leads me to think(and EVERY professional I have shown the website too).There is no room for forgiving the SARASOTA guilty,building contractors,judges,teachers/school board,etc.etc.SARASOTA does not like to get egg on the face.BILL ZOELLER (spelling im not sure)is a builder/architecht(in phone book sarasota many with that name living on Siesta Key paradise.TIME to wake them up(This guy once told me "You know you all deserved it".Sarasota must fess up.I am under the sarasota govt"s skin right now for personal matters(and they know Im pissed off about the program)It is also that I may be amongst the most famous of their newcommers.The remember me,and its been my business to keep reminding them(they hate egg on their face).If you want war with them then I am your soldier."
Cliquers? In what way? How is that a bad thing? Of course we're "cliquers" ... we're a pretty unique group. I only know two other people personally who have put up with one these programs.
You should probably check yourself on formatting paragraphs and sentences and spelling and grammar usage if you're going to knock Wes' site. JMHO :cool:
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Shortly after I left, the staff at LIFE helped my parents plan a kidnapping. They lured me in and took me by force to Bethel, in Mississippi. I came very close to becoming another one of those "compressional asphyxiation" statistics. Like the names with the '+' signs: http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html) Fat guys should not sit on skinny kids' backs!
How did you leave LIFE? Did you run? I always applauded the runners! Wish I had bigger cojones back then. :cool:
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I ran away. But only because they finally gave me the opportunity. It was partly because I caused so much trouble (violence was really the only way out). But, I later found out that the cost was to be split between my dad and my mom & stepfather. My dad failed to pay his half of the expenses, so that probably had some bearing on things.
I fought like hell for a while, then conformed. After I was on second phase for a time, they started sending me home alone at night. I kept asking for foster brothers, but they wouldn't do it. I think they just wanted me to run so they could have an excuse to send me to Mississippi. Bethel was a lot cheaper back then.
After leaving, I moved in with my dad and started working. Then, my mom lured me in by pretending to take me out for an innocent lunch. We stopped by her house on the way back and the door slammed shut behind us. A couple of goons popped out of the back room, a van pulled up to the door, and they dragged me away, kicking and screaming.
The cops actually helped plan the kidnapping. A program parent drove the van.
You know, Greg sounds a little bit psycho, but a lot of the things he says make sense. My step father was in the construction business in Sarasota for many years, and his mother worked for the Sarasota County Schools for a log time -- his sister still does. Some one from the Sherrif's Department helped plan my kidnapping, and I know of a least one person from the program who's father was a contractor. And yes, the building contractors pretty much run the Sarasota County Government. As far as starting a war with them, I guess the worst thing that could happen is getting black footprints on my head. But, I don't think I want to do it unless they try to start another program. Like I said, it's not about revenge -- LIFE is long gone.
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Damn... that's one hell of a story. I know someone with a similar experience. What I don't GET is why - economically speaking - Peterman would be so hell bent on moving kids to another program. But then again - maybe she was just a narcissistic sadist who enjoyed making lives miserable more than she enjoyed money.
I don't know what Greg's deal is - he may actually have good points, but unfortunately they're all muddied by his incoherent posts. The way you put it makes a more sense - especially in the era of drug propoganda back then. I know for a fact that law enforcement cooperated with many "kidnappings" under the guise of "helping a troubled teen"... I interviewed a Sarasota cop in the early 90's about this - Teens didn't stand a chance.
As far as the contractor thing goes - it's possible that that's where the money is talking. But I'm really getting the feeling that it wasn't just one group of contractors, or one group of anything - I really think that a select group of various professions assembled their talents to capitalize on the Great Drug War of the eighties.
I admit - I haven't done my homework here - or any work at all for that matter. So far all I've heard about this has been from Greg LeClaire and nothing from the established researchers.
But if there's evidence out there - I'm all ears!
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On 2004-06-04 20:39:00, Sara-1984 wrote:
But then again - maybe she was just a narcissistic sadist who enjoyed making lives miserable more than she enjoyed money.
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If you think she got RICH off a mere $3,000 program fee off each client (for however long it took each client to complete even a year or more), think again. Psych/treatment hospitals charged about 1/3 of that price per DAY. And staff count was at least 15 to 20, plus all other expenses within there facility. Peer staff were hardly paid, from what I understand so this theroy that these people made millions from these programs is totally warped and ridiculous.
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Somebody sure made a pile of money dissapear! What were the program fees? How much did they receive in private donations and fundraisers? How much from various government sources like Law Enforcement Assistance Agency?
Now, where did it go? Not to expensive buildings, most of these places are run out of warehouses or office buildings in the bad part of town. Not to peer staff, they barely got a stipend. It wasn't client housing or education, as the parents provided both. It certainly wasn't the high cost of peanut butter and stale bread.
So where did it go? Somebody had to have gotten it!I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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There was the big residential building they built while I was at LIFE in '87. I bet somebody made out on that.
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:smokin: At least she didn't put you in restraints and shoot you up with 30 milograms of Haladol without cogentin or artane. Ever seen a pretzel syndrome in a real mental ward? She went easy on a lot of people, but unfortunatly she didn't realize that nobody an quit substance abuse until they are sick and tired of it and decide to just stop it. She couldn't change people like she wished and tried so hard just for the sake of being a big MOMMY to a lot of lost children. Just what you needed huh? another mother? lol
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A real mental ward would never have taken me because I was not a danger to myself or anyone else.
If my mother treated me the way Helen Peterman did, she would have been thrown in prison.
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On 2004-06-05 16:35:00, Antigen wrote:
"Somebody sure made a pile of money dissapear! What were the program fees? How much did they receive in private donations and fundraisers? How much from various government sources like Law Enforcement Assistance Agency?
Now, where did it go? Not to expensive buildings, most of these places are run out of warehouses or office buildings in the bad part of town. Not to peer staff, they barely got a stipend. It wasn't client housing or education, as the parents provided both. It certainly wasn't the high cost of peanut butter and stale bread.
So where did it go? Somebody had to have gotten it!I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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See what happens when I miss a day?
You took the words outta my mouth, Ginger!
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2/21/87 --- 8/17/87
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On 2004-06-08 07:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
" 2/21/87 --- 8/17/87"
Here Lies LIFE - Rest in a billion pieces :razz:
(Is that were you were going with that?)
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Does Petermann have one 'N' or two? It seems to have changed a couple of times through the course of this discussion. I've seen it spelled both ways on the web too.
Sara, you're drinking too much coffee. :em: Look closer at the dates. Not LIFE's life, but somehow strangely familiar -- to me, anyway.
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On 2004-06-08 20:31:00, TimeBomb wrote:
"Does Petermann have one 'N' or two? It seems to have changed a couple of times through the course of this discussion. I've seen it spelled both ways on the web too.
Sara, you're drinking too much coffee. :rofl:
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Sara, you're drinking too much coffee. :em: Look closer at the dates. Not LIFE's life, but somehow strangely familiar -- to me, anyway.
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Oops - hit the wrong button. I was long gone by '87 - What are the dates?
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I made the original post about the reunion.
I heard about it from my sister. I was the sibling that didn't get pulled into the program. Even though my father was looking for an excuse to try and get me in there.
I didn't help the situation, two weeks after my sisters intake, I crashed my car with three buddies in it. We were all fine and no booze or drugs, just teen craziness.
However, my father ripped the car apart looking for drugs and had my blood tested to look for drugs.
Alas, over two years later, my sister 7 stepped out and left Florida. I went to school in Tampa which is why I posted about STEP.
Any other questions?
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On 2004-06-09 19:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I made the original post about the reunion.
I heard about it from my sister. I was the sibling that didn't get pulled into the program. Even though my father was looking for an excuse to try and get me in there.
I didn't help the situation, two weeks after my sisters intake, I crashed my car with three buddies in it. We were all fine and no booze or drugs, just teen craziness.
However, my father ripped the car apart looking for drugs and had my blood tested to look for drugs.
Alas, over two years later, my sister 7 stepped out and left Florida. I went to school in Tampa which is why I posted about STEP.
Any other questions?
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Yeah - How did you find out about the reunion?
I can't believe you escaped it either. I was actually given a blood test three days after being there - I know it was negative. It's akin to giving a virgin a pregnancy test. They still held me for four months.
I can't believe the shit that people (parents) fall for! With the logic that sibs must be programmed too - then it follows that it's expected to send your 120 pound, 5'4" son to play football because his 180 pound, six footer of a brother is a football player! Outrageous stupidity. :flame:
I didn't see your posting about STEP... where was that? Was it Before or after LIFE?
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I was in state custody one MONTH and was FORCED to give them the blood,they knew it would be clean,but they wanted it anyway.
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On 2004-06-10 05:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I was in state custody one MONTH and was FORCED to give them the blood,they knew it would be clean,but they wanted it anyway."
Wanting it is one thing. Getting the results is another.
To test or not to test, that is the question - and a much bigger constitutional issue.
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"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you always got"[ This Message was edited by: Sara-1984 on 2004-06-10 20:29 ]
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My sister got an e-mail from former staff members. STEP came after LIFE.
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Damn, if they just would have given me a smoke and my medication I'd be free today. :???:
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On 2004-06-14 22:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Damn, if they just would have given me a smoke and my medication I'd be free today. :wave:
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LifeReunion--less than a month away now. See ya there.
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Since life was an extension of the sarasota straight program, I was wondering if we could come too???
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since Mrs. Pete did my intake at the Seed, maybe I come come along as well????
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On 2004-06-28 08:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Since life was an extension of the sarasota straight program, I was wondering if we could come too???"
You should run it up the Chain Of Command first. Are there any Staff Apprentice's around?
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On 2004-06-27 13:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"LifeReunion--less than a month away now. See ya there."
Do you really WANT to see us there?? :wave:
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On 2004-06-28 12:12:00, GregFL wrote:
"since Mrs. Pete did my intake at the Seed, maybe I come come along as well????"
Hey Greg - The word is - you might even be able to give her a personal "thank you" :cool:
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I've always heard rumors that there were still "faithful" out there. You mean they really exist? :scared:
Boundary, n. In political geography, an imaginary line between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of one from the imaginary rights of another.
-- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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On 2004-06-28 18:49:00, Sara-1984 wrote:
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On 2004-06-28 12:12:00, GregFL wrote:
"since Mrs. Pete did my intake at the Seed, maybe I come come along as well????"
Hey Greg - The word is - you might even be able to give her a personal "thank you" :cool:
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Hey does anyone know if sammie is going down there to do a demonstraition? Id love to show up if she does. We always have a blast with her.
I heard she got some big lawyer to represent her against Straight, Dr Burns, Miller and HRS as well as the Semblers. Has anyone heard from her?
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Bring a rain coat (unless you want Petermann's brain matter splattered on you clothes).
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A week and a half away. See ya there.....lol
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On 2004-05-20 14:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"http://www.LifeReunion.com
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07/23/04
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Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock
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So?
Can someone report on the protesting at this event? What happened?
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Yes, Peterman's brains were splattered everywhere.
I'm glad I wore my raincoat. :skull:
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On 2004-07-25 13:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yes, Peterman's brains were splattered everywhere.
I'm glad I wore my raincoat. :skull: "
Ummm... WRONG
Not a ONE of you loser WUSS's showed your pathetic, victim, hot-air blowin' faces. Just a bunch of TALK.
You "survivors" are just a bunch of mentally ill complainers.
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On 2004-07-25 16:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ummm... WRONG
Not a ONE of you loser WUSS's showed your pathetic, victim, hot-air blowin' faces. Just a bunch of TALK.
You "survivors" are just a bunch of mentally ill complainers."
Maybe you just didn't notice? You know, we may have been hanging out with our lovers, having a glass of wine and chilling out - maybe 50 yards away? :wink:
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I saw you there SARA,50 yds away with that big black dick up your ass.
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mentally ill complainers.....lol....I'll have to look that one up....
I checked out some of the pics from the LIFE reunion....pretty freaky seeing some old faces.......Anyway wish I would have known about it.....would have been a trip
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I just looked at the life site. Saw pics of pretty fucking ugly women. Glad I didn't make it. I'd still be puking today.
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I WENT INTO LIFE SARASOTA JAN 1986 7TH STEPPED LAST MONTH OF PROGRAM AT GT LAKE WORTH 1987
LOOKING FOR SAMMY BLANCO?