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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: PosterChild on May 13, 2004, 10:41:00 PM
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I thought that some of the quotes used in the propheets were great, and others were just funny, but I can't remember all of them. One of my favorites was "Today is the first day of the rest of your life"-I Want To Live
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The ladder to the stars is woven with dreams
from the dreams workshop
that was actually a cool experience for me, no shit, it was the one workshop or propheet that really wasn't about beating your ass down.
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Are you joking, that was all that the dreams was about. I have never beat myself up more
"The harder the truth to tell, the truer the friend that tells it"
-Brothers Keeper
"If youve built your castles in the sky, your work not need be lost, for that is where they should be, now put the foundation under them"
-Dreams & Nightmeres
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Well the nightmare part was a little far out, I was just trying to pull a golden turd out of a pile of shit
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oh yeah, that was an important lesson the brothers propheet taught...... how to be brutally honest
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well if we are talking quotes, here's a few that we all remember.
"Get Real"
"Go Deeper"
"How does it feel?"
"Projection"
"Feel your pain"
"Let it out"
"RUN YOUR SHIT"
"be there"
"Don't think, feel"
"your thinking..."
and my personal favorite.....drumroll please
"GET A VOICE!"
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"Would you rather be right, or get what you want?"
i mean come on thats fucking rediculous. I'm going to not only be wrong in one sense but i'm going to do so to satisfy my own wants. That quote irritates me more than anyting i have ever experianced. Think about be unjust in your actions and get something shinny for it. Fuck Mel, i'd rather be wrong and still have my diggnty! can i get an a men
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I'll give you an amen........although personally I would rather be right and get what I want :razz:
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Now picture yourself saying all these words to your favorate asshole staff while beating them with a baseball bat. -- Mow that is therapeutic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On 2004-05-16 22:25:00, Hell on Wheels wrote:
"well if we are talking quotes, here's a few that we all remember.
"Get Real" whack
"Go Deeper" whack
"How does it feel?" whack
"Projection" whack
"Feel your pain" whack
"Let it out" whack
"RUN YOUR SHIT" whack
"be there" whack
"Don't think, feel" whack
"your thinking..." whack
and my personal favorite.....drumroll please
"GET A VOICE!"" whack whack whack
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Here's the one that really pissed me off for years.
Remember this SHiT
Projections Are valid?
It was supposed to mean that if you complained abiut anything about a staff, then you were actually projecting a personal trait (something about yourself) on the staff.
My Ex wife used this to beat the shit out of me emotionally when she came home from CEDU.
Here's an exxaggerated example of a conversation between me and my wife.
Premise:
Laurie:
E%^%^*%^&(*%^(&^&*()&()+_*()+_*()+(&*(&)%*(%*(%*&)IN ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marc"
"Darling, I don't think it is a good idea to scraem and yell when you come home just because you yell do it all day at the kids sweethaart"
Laurie:
"^*&&*^$%^*#%^&#$@#$^#@$^%OFF Projections are valid."
Marc
Projections are supposed to be things in me that you see, but I don't yell at you, sweetheart.
Laurie:
"Piss off 75945896579436903764IN ASSHOLE - projections are valid"
Marc
"Can we discuss this honey?"
laurie
"No Piss off."
Conclusiom
"projections are valid"
Ever have that happen to you?
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never happened to me, and that is one thing I have never done to someone on the outside, because I hated it at CEDU. It works on a bullshit premise, and was a way for CEDU to force older students to be subservient in the program. You couldn't just indict someone, you had to drag your shit through the mud first. Now it didn't happen everytime, but it was a lot of fun to be indicting someone for being an asshole and have the indictment turned by the staff. I did notiec that the staff did not have to own up to jack shit, and it pissed me off. I just liked to turn shit on staff and watch them burn for a minute until they realized they still had the power over you. If only they had led by earning respect and trust, it would probably have been fun. Instead of running it with power and fear.
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They would say "You are not being accountable."
Most of the staff, especially the less intelligent ones like the fundamentalists and mormons, or just raving fishheaded Christians like (Kerry Huggins) had no idea what that word ment, never looked it up, and couldn't have comprehended even the word "thumb," let alone "accountability." Yet they used it with utter incompetent impunity to mean you do whatever CEDU says and even if that is making a kid fuck your cat. Now your "being accountable." Fuck you and your "Accountability" too.
They asked me (in a workshop run by idiots from florida) one time what it meant to me to be "acccountable."
I told them in front of all the staff that accountability meant being answerable for our actions such as verbally mentally and physically abusing kids by reporting same to the proper authorities no matter what the consequences - as cited in my profession's code of ethics.
I was told in no uncertain terms that "some people" would refuse to understand accountability and would be worked out of the system naturally. That did it for me.
I blasted them verbally, tearing apart every attempt they made to reframe and define the word "accountability" until one of the facilitators cried. I didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but the utter abject stupidity of these people never fails to piss me off. "WELL I GET PISSED - YOU KNOW."
Anyway then I would have to go home and hear about how accountability means the CEDU end justifies the CEDU means, Well, not what I think assholes.
"Are you being accountable/" Fuck You!!!!!!!!!
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I would like to take a bat to the counselors and punctuate the blows with shit like "Stop intellectualizing!" and "You're Thinking!" and "Don't Think!" and "You're not getting honest" Yeah
I'd like to play baseball with one of them
Black Francis the 2nd
[ This Message was edited by: Black Francis on 2004-06-20 14:26 ]
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My fantasy would be all us ex-Cedu kids getting jobs at CEDU as adults and just turning the system on its head. On an agreed upon day, taking over raps and propheets and blowing the BS wide open! OK, I know its impractical, but its my fantasy!
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You want to hear a funny one? It makes me look ridiculous but that's OK.
I gained 20 pounds straightaway at CEDU and one of the staff members in a propheet told me to stand up in front of the entire house and ask them for support with my problem of "eating my feelings." One Summit kid came up to me and said "I really support you with this and want to help you." A few days later he helped with our truth propheet. At the Truth, he opened fire at the beginning of the rap ripping me a new one for being such a loser for that announcement to the house. Naturally, I was shut out before I could say what a poseur he was for congratulating me earlier on this issue and offering me support. At the time, I was pissed, but its funny. I laugh now that I took it all so seriously.
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I ended up in this place after CEDU did me no good at all. These guys had no screaming, any confrontation was very gentle, no think tank, etc.
I'd recommend it fully.
http://65.108.236.215/referrals.htm (http://65.108.236.215/referrals.htm)
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On 2004-05-24 09:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now picture yourself saying all these words to your favorate asshole staff while beating them with a baseball bat. -- Mow that is therapeutic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Now that would be.
:grin:
But seriously now that I know this site exists, I will be more active. Unfortunatly I will have to examine the issues wich kinda sucks cause I'll probably end up gluttons for punishment like youse.
But the truth is I already am, I've got it all. Letters from home, survival notebooks, thinking notebooks, iandme, summit, portfolios from everyfamily and some of that guy Alberto's pictures that he took (the photographer dude that I heard was fired for something sexual was the relative of Carmen Earl). But I haven't yet really gone through much. I'm leaving that for next month. I'm still trying to figure out how I wound up there. God what fucking mistake that turned out to be. The way my parents are it'll take a book to convince them It Hurt. [ This Message was edited by: blownawaytheidahoway on 2004-07-11 14:22 ]
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On 2004-07-11 14:00:00, NivekOgre wrote:
"I ended up in this place after CEDU did me no good at all. These guys had no screaming, any confrontation was very gentle, no think tank, etc.
I'd recommend it fully.
http://65.108.236.215/referrals.htm (http://65.108.236.215/referrals.htm)"
Mississippi from Idaho? wow I'm sorry.
but I see that that was for over 18 only. That would be miles different. I had to back to 2 YEARS of High school after 915 days of that fucking torture. I couldn't glide. I didn't know what hit me.
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On 2004-06-20 14:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My fantasy would be all us ex-Cedu kids getting jobs at CEDU as adults and just turning the system on its head. On an agreed upon day, taking over raps and propheets and blowing the BS wide open! OK, I know its impractical, but its my fantasy!"
that was totally my plan...
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There should be open standards for the way all of these places are run. It seems all these rehabs have their own methodologies and in most cases their theories were devised by some charlatan (I don't care how hard you try, Mel Wasserman is not an Albert Einstein albeit he was a clever businessman). What needs to happen is the country or even the world as a whole should decide upon an approach or set of approaches that yield the best results and insure that any facility adheres to these. Isn't this how we treat most maladies? This is why I'm blabbing on this from the political angle because as far as I know CEDU is one of the lambs in this whole mess. Have you read about Provo? If you really care, you should try to fix them all.
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If you need a rehab or know someone that does, call that place in Mississippi and get a recommendation from them if you are under 18. The thing I know is that they are humane. It's one of the few I've heard of that are.
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okay so.... RMA has collapsed. anyone who has been there within the past 4 years has seen this coming. they fired everyone INCLUDING JOHN AARON!!!!!! so fuck man. if you all want details, just cuz it's nice to bask in the warm glow of the burning of RMA can email me @ Eavell2@uic.edu
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one of the best ones:::
DUM DA DUM!!!!
ITS YOUR LIFE! DEAL WITH IT! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO DO!
hot damn, i hated it when they said that :flame:
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when were you there. i think it was a mark wasserman . they did what they wanted and when anyone came by to see the place they would pretend to be civil and then turn around and do it again. they had to keep him away from parents so they would not see how he really was.