Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: samurai on May 03, 2004, 09:07:00 PM
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does anyone from the life program ever post on fornits???
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I was in LIFE from Jan 25, 1988 until December 31, 1989. When were you there?
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I was there from 89 to 91.
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I was in Life from Jan 1989 til Apirl 1990.
I remember staff members like Yvonne, Melissa, Holley, and and upcoming staffer, Stacey. I can't remember any of the guy's names.
I remember a few girls, like Mandy, Becky, and Monet.
My name is Holly, and I lived in Tampa at the time, and I would love to talk to anyone from LIFE.
Holly
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Only rarely.
The sadist cannot stand the separation of the public and the private; nor can he grant to others the mystery of their personality, the validity of their inner self...in order for him to feel his maximum power, he wants the world to be peopled with concrete manipulatable objects...
-- ERNEST BECKER, The Structure of Evil, 1968.
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Some LIFErs have posted a few times... it just kind of died out.
Maybe there weren't enough of us compared to straight - who knows. Doesn't mean it wasn't the same shit descended from the same sellers.
I say we should organize. We need to. What is going to end the fanatacism?
On the other hand - why do we dredge up old wounds? What good does it do? Apparently it all began with the fight against the first synanons and how far did that get? Yes, a few people who suffered the most egregious abuses were awarded money - but they can't take those abuses away or get their childhoods back.
We lost part of our lives. But do we spend the rest of our lives focused on tearing down "those people" or do we move on? Does moving on mean we accept it?
(My one liner turned into a rant - maybe more of us lifers do need to post more!)
Me - personally - I'm sitting on this fence, and it sure is uncomfortable. ::soapbox::
END RANT
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Well, if the people who brought us the Program had just given up the cause when their own kids were grown, I'd be right there with ya'. Who cares about things that happened 20 years ago. Sure, it damaged or helped to show pre-existing damage to my family. But I'm grown now and have my own family and friends.
I'm in it for one reason and one reason only. Straight Inc. expanded, reorganized and now operates PACs, government subsidized non-profits and actually writes laws that tend to get passed under the names Drug Free America Foundation and Drug Policy Network of the Americas. Every time a school district contracts DARE to indoctrinate their 6th graders, Betty Sembler gets a little further on her agenda.
I think that if more people just understood what these people are and what kind of sadism underlies their fell good "Just Say No" bullshit, we wouldn't have them writing public policy and blank checks on the public treasury.After all, who wouldn't prefer Middle Earth, unless they've been corrupted by a Ring of Power?
December 24, 2002
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That's why the pointy things on the fence keep poking me in the butt, Ginger.. :exclaim: :exclaim: :exclaim:
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I went through my phases with some of the staff that was listed. I was on even staff for awhile but I chalk that up to being a kid that just didn't know better. I had thought it was the right thing to do and didn't have the experience to know just how wrong this program was on so many different levels. While I still have friends that I went through the phases with and I cherish them completely,I would rather have never lost two years of my life like that.
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LIFE (Life Is For Everyone formerly of Osprey, Florida)
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:rofl:
I'll be RIGHT THERE!
:rofl: "One commentator pointed out that when the mafia commits violence, no
one suggests we bomb Sicily. Today it seems we are, in a symbolic way, not only bombing "Sicily," but are thinking about bombing "Athens" (Iraq)."
Ron Paul, 11/29/01 Speech before Congress
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Make sure you wipe the shit off of your head before you come.
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On 2004-05-31 21:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Make sure you wipe the shit off of your head before you come."
:wstupid:
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wow........Yvonne, Mandy - I went through my phases with Mandy....well - one of the times anyway. I was in LIFE from the end of 85 - till when I turned 18 in 1988.....hearing some of the staffs names was strange. I am from West Palm Beach and recently drove to Sarasota....took a ride to the "building" I actually have some digital camera pics of it (if interested I'll e-mail them to you.) Could almost hear the singing when I walked up to the building.....Its now some kind of furniture store...It was closed when I was there...kinda glad though.....didnt wanna really go in. I've read over some of the postings in the L.I.F.E. / Growing together Forum...and I guess I'm a bit disapointed. I asked for LIFE/Growing togther to be added as a Forum/Topic so maybe some ex lifers could talk...or whatever. Looks like its basically a debate column of which place treated people worse..."anonymous" rantings on how great the program was blah blah blah.....who cares. It effected us however - emotionally - phyically blah blah blah......so IF you dont care for what is being shared here then move the hell on.....I'm not even THAT BORED to entertain myself with arguing some mute point.....but really,,,,can you say that sitting on wooden church pughs 10 &1/2 hours a day, motivating, I myself was sent to "time out" in a 6 x 6 room for 5 days. And yes I was denied bathroom privledges...wore the same clothes for days- had 104 fever and just kept in the "clinic" with hardly an aspiren....told I was a piece of shit and this is why Ive lost ALL privledges in life...such as walking around,,,not having to ASK to pick things up "can I stand up" " Can I brush my hair" having to sleep in the same bed with some freak wacking off......and these are just a few memories..but hey IF that didnt effect you at all and you feel it was a positive time in your life then GOOD FOR YOU!....maybe you were the freak in the room w/ me. (oh and by the way....cracking on my spelling / grammatical errors wont bother me) but you can waste your time if you want....
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There are not enough LIFE people to make any money for Wes Fager,so we have all taken a back seat to the Straight people and their endless whining on his website.
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HUH?!?!?!?!?
I wasn't aware this was a popularity thing?
lol
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It is a popularity thing.We all know the different named programs were caused by the same people each time.
Straight is the "famous" one.Many people think of "Scared Straight" (GIMMIE THOSE SNEAKERS YOU PUSSY!!!!),the program where at risk kids were filmed in a prison being berated by inmates.
If you dont know what Straight is,you probably think you do.Its a famous word "Straight".(LIFE sounds like a retirement trailer park in South West Florida,not a torture cult.)
Wes is about making money so he can buy more batteries for his short wave radio.It has taken many years of attacking him about this,and yet today there is barely a mention of LIFE on the Wes website.
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On 2004-12-09 18:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It is a popularity thing....
Wes is about making money so he can buy more batteries for his short wave radio.It has taken many years of attacking him about this,and yet today there is barely a mention of LIFE on the Wes website.
DAMN!! You really need to get over this and get a fucking life. YOU are the only one upset about not getting enough attention. :roll:
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If you are so pissed about it, why don't you do something about it? Start your own fucking website about LIFE? You are damn right! LIFE needs more attention. Get off your ass and bang your own fucking drum. Don't whine about Wes. His kid was in straight, so his research is primarily about straight. Duh. You were in LIFE. Write about , expose and shout about LIFE and the inhumanities that took place there. Expose bitch Helen Petermann and her cronies. Make their life a living hell. Make them long for death so they can be at peace. Quit you bitching.
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First, to the bitter anon...Wes is a friend of mine. Wes has never made a dime off of his website and has flown around the country on his own nickel. In addition, Wes is not involved in any manner in this website.
Life was a part of this story, an important part especially since offshoots of life exist to this day. You people are the only ones that will be able to tell it.
Wes's son was in straight, and he sees the story from his own perspective, just as you do.
Get it? You think something needs to be said, take responsiblity for saying it.
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Actually, there's quite a bit of mention on thestraights.com about Growing Together as well as some bit of history on LIFE. The thing about Straight is that it got so damned big. There were like 23 branches and variants at one time. LIFE was one of those.
Here's the thing. Wes is not a timid man, but who the hell wants to get sued? He's not going to put anything out there that can't be documented and meet a solid standard of verification.
You can start your own website. And/or you can provide documentation and corroborated statements to Wes. As GT is, once again, making headlines I'm sure there's interest in the history of the program. The people's right to change what does not work is one of the greatest
principles in our system of government
--Richard M. Nixon
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we were in the same time. i dated misty and i was brainwashed on junior staff. is everyone ok, im trying to get a reunion going.
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Yes, we need a lifers reunion. I would go. Never to a high school reunion but a lifer reunion, I would really go. It would be fun . Damn straight it would. Sean 1990-1991[ This Message was edited by: sean-the-lifer-1990-1991 on 2005-10-22 22:38 ]
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On 2005-10-22 22:38:00, sean-the-lifer-1990-1991 wrote:
"Yes, we need a lifers reunion. I would go. Never to a high school reunion but a lifer reunion, I would really go. It would be fun . Damn straight it would. Sean 1990-1991[ This Message was edited by: sean-the-lifer-1990-1991 on 2005-10-22 22:38 ]"
Well, you missed the last one in July of '04. Maybe these nice people can help you with the next one http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community ... 188943&ck= (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=188943&ck=)
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cool I didn't think that site existed anymore.
thanks. I'd love to go to the next one. I made a lot of good friends there.
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On 2005-10-29 12:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
" cool I didn't think that site existed anymore.
thanks. I'd love to go to the next one. I made a lot of good friends there."
Be sure to tell Wendy that Sara sent ya! :rofl:
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Because BEFORE I found this board,I thought I was "the only one".
Do a google search for:
L.I.F.E.
or
Life Is For Everyone
and you will come up with NOTHING,but type in "Straight" and you get piles of stuff.
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I was in LIFE.
I remember some of those staff names also, and for some reason the name Monet struck me as familiar. Was she the bigger girl with the short blond hair?"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]
--Ben Guillory
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Yeah Monet was a short girl with blond hair. She came into the program about a year after me.
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Yep, I think I remember her.
When I first made 6th phase, like literally the day after, we were having one of those 6th phase meetings and she was the first girl I actually go to "talk to". Of course, that day was the day they made the decision to not allow 6th phase guys and girls to associate anymore.
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Woops, that above was me...
Any Irishman who doubts the reality of selective enforcement ought to take just a moment to comtemplate the etymology of the term "paddy waggon".
--Antigen
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On 2005-12-08 23:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Because BEFORE I found this board,I thought I was "the only one".
Do a google search for:
L.I.F.E.
or
Life Is For Everyone
and you will come up with NOTHING,but type in "Straight" and you get piles of stuff.
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Uncanny. I found this board under the exact same circumstances.
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On 2005-12-09 09:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yep, I think I remember her.
When I first made 6th phase, like literally the day after, we were having one of those 6th phase meetings and she was the first girl I actually go to "talk to". Of course, that day was the day they made the decision to not allow 6th phase guys and girls to associate anymore."
When did you go into the program? Are you sure it wasn't in 1989?
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I was there for around 18 months. I 7th stepped before I graduated in June of '91, and a ways before too, probably at least 5 or 6 months before.
So I will say yes, I was probably there in '89 as well.
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Ugh..
Login Mike, login!!
That was me above...I am not looking to collect money or punish anyone for their involvement with straight. I'm looking to change this mutherfucking world.
Reagan Youth