Post by: Antigen on May 03, 2004, 03:47:00 PM
We must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around.
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)
It is wrong to leave a stumbling block in the road once it has tripped you.
Post by: Don Smith on May 04, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
Don
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2004, 07:18:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2004, 07:19:00 AM
Post by: kaydeejaded on May 04, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
I know that Micheal Lang declared bankrupt after the Woodstock 94 debacle and still managed to retain his wealthy lifestyle and null and void all debts.....
just skeptical, hope he really is flat broke but that this isn't some monetary power play.
Sorry, always jaded always suspecting some ulterior motive...
maybe he knows he is going to be sued or something and is dumping assessts to prepare for the inevitable....
just skeptical! hopeful but
It really puzzles me to see Marijuana connected with Narcotics - Dope and all that crap?it's a thousand times better than whiskey - it's an Assistant - a friend.
Louis Armstrong
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2004, 11:22:00 AM
Quote
On 2004-05-04 07:53:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
It could be a calculated financial move on his part.....
I know that Micheal Lang declared bankrupt after the Woodstock 94 debacle and still managed to retain his wealthy lifestyle and null and void all debts.....
just skeptical, hope he really is flat broke but that this isn't some monetary power play.
Sorry, always jaded always suspecting some ulterior motive...
maybe he knows he is going to be sued or something and is dumping assessts to prepare for the inevitable....
just skeptical! hopeful but
Hasn't he already been sued? Why is Lulu Corter's name not on this notice? Did she not get a dime? Wasn't she the one who bankrupted him? And why has it taken so long to come through?
Perhaps some legal beagle can explain all this. I'm mystified. :???:
Also, didn't I hear (maybe here) that he had given all his money to his "church" so he still controlled it but it wasn't technically his?
I think you are right to be skeptical.
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
Someone notify LULU.
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2004, 02:41:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
Someone mentioned telling LULU about all this. Remember, Rebecca Ehrlich also should be informed.
Someone also mentioned that he may have given all his money to the church in order to still have access to it for whatever his needs are - perhaps the proper authorities should be made aware of this action. If it is true, of course.
And finally, if you're not paranoid then YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION!
Thank you.
Post by: kaydeejaded on May 05, 2004, 10:36:00 AM
Quote
On 2004-05-04 23:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"JUST A MATTER OF THE LAW ON Lulu Corter's NAME ON THE LIST. HE CAN NAME HER BUT IT WILL ONLY PROVIDE TEMORARY PROTECTION FROM HER COLLECTING ANYTHING. IN THE END IN BANKRUTCY COURT IF THE COURT SAYS THAT IT WAS A INTINITIONAL ACT ON WHAT HAPPENED TO Lulu Corter THEN IT CANNOT BE DISCARGED IN BANKRUTCY COURT. INITIONAL ACTS ARE NOT PROTECTED BY BANKRUTCY THAT IS WHAT THE LAWS SAY.... AND ABUSING SOMONE IN A PROGRAM IS CONSDERED A INTIONAL ACT... BANKRUTCY WONT SAVE YOU!!!!"
unfortunately yes it will, it has saved straight in the past and they have had abused kids..now adult that never saw a dime because the party involved declared chapter 11
how could they have gotten away with it? Well I don't know about the law but they may have strings they can pull. who knows but it has been done before and by straight specifically
Don't worry about temptation--as you grow older, it starts avoiding you.
-- Old Farmer's Almanac
Post by: Triumvirate on May 05, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
Quote
On 2004-05-04 07:53:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"It could be a calculated financial move on his part.....
I know that Micheal Lang declared bankrupt after the Woodstock 94 debacle and still managed to retain his wealthy lifestyle and null and void all debts.....
just skeptical, hope he really is flat broke but that this isn't some monetary power play.
Sorry, always jaded always suspecting some ulterior motive...
maybe he knows he is going to be sued or something and is dumping assessts to prepare for the inevitable....
just skeptical! hopeful butIt really puzzles me to see Marijuana connected with Narcotics - Dope and all that crap?it's a thousand times better than whiskey - it's an Assistant - a friend."
Louis Armstrong
I always considered the term "Jaded" to be more of a lack of thought/feeling about stuff either way...
I think Kadysuspicious is far more descriptive, plus Jaded makes me think of that godawful Aroesmith song...
God they were so great before they cleaned up...
go listen to Aerosmith "Rocks...and "Draw the Line" and compare it to the music they make now..
SHame on you Aerosmith...
And I think Kaydee is right...most people declare bankruptcy as a way to avoid debt..it doesnt mean hes gutterbound.
Post by: Triumvirate on May 05, 2004, 12:06:00 PM
And I mean like a heroin dealers habit..Gram and 1/2 shots...
That would be fitting...
Then he can get busted and forced to go to some abusive adult rehab...
Post by: kaydeejaded on May 05, 2004, 12:48:00 PM
jaded meaning worn out and tired of the rhetoric not buying it anymore....the illusion is gone....
ect just weary world weary worn out buy the abuse....
which really isn't me anymore
there is still hope.
Babylon in all its desolation is a sight not so awful as that of the human mind in ruins.
-- Scrope Davies: Letter to Thomas Raikes, May 25, 1835.
Post by: Triumvirate on May 05, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
What you consider a frame of mind thats of clarity and sees thru everything is in fact distorted and not realistic at all.
It cripples you...
Post by: The One and Only Anonymou on May 05, 2004, 05:33:00 PM
We went looking for his church down on the beach. That shit doesn't exist. Believe me if I had the true address I would have signed up just to get some money out of the deal.
This guy doesn't exist I tell you. He's a myth. Just like Melvin Sembler. The guy is some unclear guru that everyone wants to blame. You come here to find demons that you want to kill, and you find them. But, are they really YOUR demons ?!? How do YOU personally know that M. Sembler did all that stuff at Straight ??? Did someone tell you it was him ? What is your unprecented proof that it was him ? I bet you never even saw the guy.
What I mean is ... did you let C. P. Fager and R. Bradbury tell you that this M. Sembler and this Virgil Newton were the criminals behind this master plan ? Or did you factually find this out for yourself. Although that scanned paper on the front post allows for clemency on Virgil's vague financial statuseS (plural), you are more than right to be skeptical.
People, who have the freed money and vested plannings, who have intentions - very seldom have it all diversified into one single, clear goal. You know this yourself.
These kinds of people know that the ones they are going to rip off are going to come after the money they were swindled out of, or whatever they lost. And the ones who did the heist are going to duck and hide and wear as many masks however they may and this maneuvering only becomes easier when there's plenty of money to back it whether it was theirs or not. Nevermind that once you get into politics you're really only defining ways of playing with people's money anyways.
For Everything and ALL that you have read in these posts up to date, and for ALL you have been told and seen and have been reading - there will always be more to find. And there is always someone higher up than this fictitious M. Sembler and V. Newton.
What if they are diversions ? How much research have you done ?
Post by: kaydeejaded on May 05, 2004, 06:39:00 PM
higher ups I believe but thats a little extreme
Clancy's Law: The perceived role of governments is to deploy ever increasing resources to the attainment of ever diminishing end results.
--Home Page (http://ozinfo.com/)
Post by: Antigen on May 06, 2004, 11:18:00 AM
Quote
On 2004-05-05 14:33:00, The One and Only Anonymous wrote:
What if they are diversions ? How much research have you done ?"
Here's what I know and how I came to know it. Going back to around 1990, I started taking a mild interest in industrial hemp. Don't ask me why, but I just got a whild hair and picked up a copy of High Times; to Hell w/ the raised eyebrows and all. Jack Herrer was just breaking into celebrity status w/ his book The Emperor Wears No Clothes and that issue of HT had a lot of info. about that.
Of course, I thought it was bunk, but artful, interesting bunk. As I looked into it, I've found that it's nothing but the truth. Every time I did a little spot checking I came up w/ corroboration. For example, I found a copy of the 1850 Patent Office Report among the old books that my dad had left behind in the house I took over from him when he moved. Sure enough, the reports issued from Kentucky and surrounding states listed hemp as one of the top 5 crops. Same for the report on imports/exports from the Port of St. Louis.
That interest led me to an interest in drug policy in general. In the course of grazing on whatever info came my way in that vein, I became familiar w/ names like DFAF, Robert DuPont, Donald Ian MacDonald, Wm. Bennett, Daryl Gates and a good many others that just happen to turn up in association w/ Straight, Inc.
I think the connections are real.
I don't give a flying run at a rolling doughnut what happens to these people on a personal level.
I just want these sadistic lunatics out of the business of making public policy that I and mine have to live with.
Is that so much to ask?
If we choose to violate the rights of the innocent in order to discover and act against the guilty, then we have transformed our country into a police state and abandoned one of the fundamental tenants of a free society. In order to win the war on drugs, we must not sacrifice the life of the Constitution in the battle.
--US District Judge H. Lee Sarokin
Post by: Triumvirate on May 06, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
And we all know oil makes the world go round.
Post by: Triumvirate on May 06, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: Cayo Hueso on May 06, 2004, 01:36:00 PM
Quote
On 2004-05-05 14:33:00, The One and Only Anonymous wrote:
We went looking for his church down on the beach. That shit doesn't exist. Believe me if I had the true address I would have signed up just to get some money out of the deal.
Beg to differ......was there a few weeks ago...found it. He just isn't affiliated with that particular location. Across the street from his 3 story house on the water is the building that he tried to start up a halfway house in. It has a plaque on it that reads "Christ at the Sea Foundation".
Quote
What I mean is ... did you let C. P. Fager and R. Bradbury tell you that this M. Sembler and this Virgil Newton were the criminals behind this master plan ? Or did you factually find this out for yourself.
Well, I personally was there when Miller was in charge of Straight St. Pete. The things that I PERSONALLY WITNESSED him doing were immoral at best, and criminal at his worst.
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has.
-- Margaret Mead
Post by: RTP2003 on May 18, 2004, 09:07:00 PM
Quote
On 2004-05-05 09:04:00, Triumvirate wrote:
"Quote
On 2004-05-04 07:53:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"It could be a calculated financial move on his part.....
I know that Micheal Lang declared bankrupt after the Woodstock 94 debacle and still managed to retain his wealthy lifestyle and null and void all debts.....
just skeptical, hope he really is flat broke but that this isn't some monetary power play.
Sorry, always jaded always suspecting some ulterior motive...
maybe he knows he is going to be sued or something and is dumping assessts to prepare for the inevitable....
just skeptical! hopeful butIt really puzzles me to see Marijuana connected with Narcotics - Dope and all that crap?it's a thousand times better than whiskey - it's an Assistant - a friend."
Louis Armstrong
I always considered the term "Jaded" to be more of a lack of thought/feeling about stuff either way...
I think Kadysuspicious is far more descriptive, plus Jaded makes me think of that godawful Aroesmith song...
God they were so great before they cleaned up...
go listen to Aerosmith "Rocks...and "Draw the Line" and compare it to the music they make now..
SHame on you Aerosmith...
And I think Kaydee is right...most people declare bankruptcy as a way to avoid debt..it doesnt mean hes gutterbound.
"
Yeah, if Steven Tyler had died of an OD in 1977 like he was supposed to, we'd all be talking about what a great band they were. They suck shit since getting off drugs.
Post by: Helena Handbasket on May 28, 2004, 09:51:00 PM
Quote
Yeah, if Steven Tyler had died of an OD in 1977 like he was supposed to, we'd all be talking about what a great band they were. They suck shit since getting off drugs.
"
Do they suck shit because they got off the drugs, OR ... do they suck shit because they're trying to sell successfully based on the criteria of what's SELLING in the music biz today?
Thinkaboutit! ::rocker::
Post by: Triumvirate on May 29, 2004, 08:49:00 AM
Go listen to "Rocks" and "Draw the line" and then listen to "9 lives" or whatever the fuck that last turd they dropped on us was.
I think if you like Aerosmith 1970's less than Aerosmith 2000's theres something amiss.
Post by: Helena Handbasket on May 29, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
But I've noticed this phenomenon with other "cleaned up" performers - it's not just the fact that they got clean, it's the fact that they got clean, and since they were on thin ice with their record companies in the first place - after getting clean they had to kiss record company ass - and record what sells.
Hell people will say Fleetwood Mac was MUCH better back in the cocaine days. They really haven't changed - they just sell what sells.