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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 14, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
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Peter Moore is no longer:
a. writing our narrative...
peter was never asked to write a screenplay, contrary to his statements.
b. a shareholder in our company, Eot Productions.
Anything posted on any website by Peter Moore to the contrary and regarding the progress of the film is not authorised by the producers and will be in violation of the confidentiality agreement Peter signed. Violating that agreement will carry legal ramifications into the future.
Production has continued uninterrupted and we are happy to announce the signing of a new writer.
A writer who did not attend Elan.
We have determined that any former resident, almost always lacks the objectivity to adequately write a meaningful and sensitive narrative.
A mature and dispassionate individual is better suited to provide the background to the stories told by former residents.
Despite the agendas of some, this film will be made. Sour grapes and hateful comments, designed to undermine our efforts will go ignored and are destined to fall on deaf ears. The rantings of angry children with nothing but hatred in their hearts is not what this film is about.
Should anyone wish to contact our office regarding the film, email or telephone will be the only way.
We will not be posting, nor reading posts on this or any other website, going forward.
Our next public post will announce the release of the film.
Thanks to all who have so generously given of their time and emotional energy to talk to us..so that we may tell your stories as they should be told.
Jamie E Eisman, Executive Producer
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It's a waste of energy to respond to you Jamie. You never learn. Who are you trying to convince?
And don't threaten me with a lawsuit, Jamie. Your word has no weight. You proved that to me.
Jamie, the biggest child with hatred is YOU. Good luck to you.[ This Message was edited by: Peter Moore on 2004-04-14 11:49 ]
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hey peter, why are u saying that, and whats going on, did u quite the film, get fired, was up, and whats with the hatred?
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Drop me an email and I'll gladly tell you. I'd rather not talk on the boards.
petrovmoorichka@hotmail.com
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welll well
looks like those producers finaly got somesense.i can tell you now that im caling them up and volunteering my story.good move dudes.whipit good,.
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Why is there so much hostility associated with this documentary?
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LOL.. Art, if you were referring to me, you'll have to excuse me. I'm really trying to handle this calmly. This is a serious reverse Number 9er here, so I'm workin' the forgiveness thing.
Funny, where I hang out, there's the same saying. Hung out there today at noon actually. And I was just saying to another Elan alum last night how it's a shame the Elanalum cannot get along. Differing viewpoints do not mean bad people.
Let's all try to be peaceful again. Since there's no talk of any movie and no lunatics, the board should become better, don't ya know?
As Marina would say... Peace!
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Seem's to me Pete its what elaners do best fight.
Wonder why?????????
If we got along guess it wouldnt be elan at all :eek:
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I agree with both of you. A lot of us treated each other like shit in Elan. We can do better here.
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UGH... Glad i went with my gut on this one.
save the drama for yo mama.
Peace kids.
SyN
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I don't know how everyone can fall for this documentary to be taken seriously. There is no info about this so called EOT productions and this guy Jamie Eisman claims to be a film producer. I found a link posted at another site about him, this guy Jamie is a photographer, he takes pictures of people. Where exactly is it said he has produced a film or even participated in one ?
If you ask me, I think he is trying to scam you all into believing he is a film producer. Has anybody even bothered to fine some credential's on this guy ?
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i read his sight...its pretty good if you ask me. it does say he made some videos and one even was a music video of a song written by thr guy who wrote the lion king..crouchsomething..looks to me like he knows enough to make a film about a place like elan. you dont have a studio like that and be in a real business to scam people...get a life dude!
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hee hee hee..looks likke peter moore is going on the attack...
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seems to me y'all are being stupid..trashing this man who is in reality not trying to scam anyone, but to give y'all a forum to tell your stories and git some closure and move on with your lifes. looks like y'all are just a buynch of pissed off people that dont care who y'all are being pissed at. y'all need a whippingboy cause your own lifes areent shit.
thats my opinin...i havent been to college but i been to elan..anybody who tells the truth has my ok.
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For the record:
I will not say anything about EoT Productions, Number 5 Road or Jamie Eisman under anything other than my real name. If other Anonymous people are criticizing the film or Jamie, it is not me.
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This whole movie deal is a crock of shit.Stupid Jewboy(nice pic dickbreath)trying to be important on a lame ass message board,pathetic.Your old man looks like some dead show reject.Maybe you should give Quentin Tarantino a call instead you loser.
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if your not involved in the film then stop bitching stop wasting your time and find something more constructive to do, start knitting, collecting baseball cards or something, leave jaimie and jordan alone its none of your concern if your not involved.
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On 2004-04-14 11:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Peter Moore is no longer:
a. writing our narrative...
peter was never asked to write a screenplay, contrary to his statements.
b. a shareholder in our company, Eot Productions.
Anything posted on any website by Peter Moore to the contrary and regarding the progress of the film is not authorised by the producers and will be in violation of the confidentiality agreement Peter signed. Violating that agreement will carry legal ramifications into the future.
Production has continued uninterrupted and we are happy to announce the signing of a new writer.
A writer who did not attend Elan.
We have determined that any former resident, almost always lacks the objectivity to adequately write a meaningful and sensitive narrative.
A mature and dispassionate individual is better suited to provide the background to the stories told by former residents.
Despite the agendas of some, this film will be made. Sour grapes and hateful comments, designed to undermine our efforts will go ignored and are destined to fall on deaf ears. The rantings of angry children with nothing but hatred in their hearts is not what this film is about.
Should anyone wish to contact our office regarding the film, email or telephone will be the only way.
We will not be posting, nor reading posts on this or any other website, going forward.
Our next public post will announce the release of the film.
Thanks to all who have so generously given of their time and emotional energy to talk to us..so that we may tell your stories as they should be told.
Jamie E Eisman, Executive Producer
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Had you gotten rid of him back in March, I might have participated, but now I can't because I do not have the financial means to get to Philly, and I'm in summer school, so I can't take time off.
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What happened to the previous posts on this thread, and why were they taken off? It seems like almost any thread that has negative things to say about Peter Moore gets deleted, why is that so?
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Does EoT productions or Number 5 Road have its own website yet?
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shut the fuck up u whinning baby, leave these people alone.. do u think that all this bickering on the net is really gonna stop Jordan's vision? i talked to him today, he said the only thing that would stop this, would be for him or his father to die,, so Nazi u fucking dolt, ur gonna have to kill one or both of these peeps to get your way, and good motha fuckin luck gettin past the dogs nad the gate, bioooootttttttcccchhhhhh
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Good god people. Its a sorry state to see the Elan programing still working its way here, a typed VR or GM is pathetic.
OOOOGGGA BOOOGA
SyN
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Well,it will be interesting to see what comes of all this.I hope if there is an elan movie,I'll be able to recognize it.
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im all for the flick,, but i think that if eot didnt anticipate that elan staff, and there cronies wouldnt stoop to any kind of tactics to try to make them stop, they were sadly mistaken,, darkness always hates the light
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"A typed VR or GM"...
That's some funny shit! Never thought of it like that. lol ::bigsmilebounce::
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On 2004-04-15 17:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What happened to the previous posts on this thread, and why were they taken off? It seems like almost any thread that has negative things to say about Peter Moore gets deleted, why is that so?"
It's not me, pal. Anyway Ginger doesn't delete anything on this site.
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Whomever is sending Pete emails trying to disguise them as me, grow up.
SyN
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On 2004-04-16 05:41:00, Marina wrote:
""A typed VR or GM"...
That's some funny shit! Never thought of it like that. lol ::bigsmilebounce::
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I ran a cyber-GM for Elan on Survivors in 2000, when I was still really angry at the place. It wasn't much, but I put on a good show.
:flame: :flame:
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and you arent still angry at the place??? Please get over yourself Peter Moore, and just accept that you failed ur task... now you have to have the rest of EoT or whatever they are called, pick up your slack.
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thats just mean
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Nope, not angry, Mr. Anonymous Chicken Troll.
I did a lot of good for EoT and I hope they succeed in producing a decent unbiased documentary. I'll be the first to congratulate them if they do.
Know what you're talking about next time. Gee, you're annoying. Shoo fly, shoo.
[ This Message was edited by: Peter Moore on 2004-04-16 09:43 ]
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Why is it that whenever we get the conversation to be productive, someone else has to interfere and make offensive comments?
Peace!
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You can't help making enemies around here, Marina. Rehabilitating a bad neighborhood is not easy.
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All I know about Pete is he made my buddy a copy of that elan documentary from the 80's.Seems like a decent guy to me.I'm glad to see your not all pissed and freaking out.I'd have a little trouble swallowing that lawsuit threat.
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what lawsuit threat are u talking about, Spence?
-jordan
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On 2004-04-16 06:35:00, Peter Moore wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 17:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What happened to the previous posts on this thread, and why were they taken off? It seems like almost any thread that has negative things to say about Peter Moore gets deleted, why is that so?"
It's not me, pal. Anyway Ginger doesn't delete anything on this site."
There was other stuff on this thread, stuff that you wrote and it's not here. Actually, you were trying to explain how only people who have been to Elan could tell the story to outsiders, and some other guy who said that you had an axe to grind, and then you told them that you were friends with Marc Rosenberg so that's not true, do you remember that?
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Sure, I remember that. And it's still here.
There are two threads with similar topics: This one and another called "#5 Road and Peter Moore" or something (difference is the # sign vs. the word). The topic with that stuff is a few down, but it's still there. Go to the list, you'll see it.
There were some deletions made by someone who posted under some name, but those were self-deletions. Trust me, I get killed on here -- no favorable treatment for me... LOL.
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Sorry, my mistake.
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No problem.
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Author Number 5 Road and Peter Moore
Sorted in ASC Order
Anonymous
Unregistered User Posted: 2004-04-14 11:22:00
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Peter Moore is no longer:
a. writing our narrative...
peter was never asked to write a screenplay, contrary to his statements.
b. a shareholder in our company, Eot Productions.
Anything posted on any website by Peter Moore to the contrary and regarding the progress of the film is not authorised by the producers and will be in violation of the confidentiality agreement Peter signed. Violating that agreement will carry legal ramifications into the future.
I don't know if that was you jordan but that was what I was talking about
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I agree with you, Jim. It's totally uncalled for. No comments.
Peace!
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its not uncalled for, in fact if anyone who signs the agreement breaks the agreement, they are subject to legal ramifications, this is jordan, and this is the way EoT productions as-well as any other film production company operates.. i stand by my vision for this film, if u dont agree, dont participate, very simple. These releases we ask people to sign are totally standard. i will not be answering any more queries about that topic unless, addressed privately...
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It's your baby,handle it as you wish. Handle it like Michael Jackson if you want. I would never sign anything that told me to keep my mouth shut or else. Just my opinion,good luck on your endeavor.
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Dear Jordan,
Just like I said, I don't think anybody has the right to pre-judge your film before it is even finished and I sincerelly wish you all the sucess in the world with this film.
However, it is totally unecessary to threaten to sue ppl. What's up with this? Now tell me that you are a totally politically correct person that follows EXACTLY what is in the law... So, what's the point on using "the law" to resolve your personal conflicts? The law is a tool, not a weapon. Familiar with this expression?
By the way, Peter is NOT going around spreading gossips about your film. What's all the mistery about this film anyways? Isn't he fired? Good, you don't need to worry about him anymore, he's an American citizen, he's got freedom os speech. I'm not trying to defend Peter and I'm NOT taking sides, Jordan. I just disaprove your attitude. I could care less If you were threatening Justin Stuckel or Matt Shakespeare for all I care. What you're doing is wrong, that's my point.
Peter's words don't have so much impact on other's opinions in a sense that would turn ppl against your film. Anyways, I don't think he's trying to do that. We've all been to Elan, Jordan, and although not everybody wishes to expose themselves on camera, most ppl are interested in watching what comes out of your documentary. However, when you threaten to sue ppl, you lose your own popularity. No one has the power to sabotage your projects but yourself. Don't worry about what ppl are saying, just keep doing your own thing and you'll suceed eventually. This way, you can prove everyone else that you're cabable of producing a good quality film.
It's all I had to say, no hurt feelings.
Peace!
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Just one thing, Peter Moore threatens to sue people all the time on this site, and seriously overreacts when someone doesn't agree with him when it would be best to just IGNORE them. If he did sign a confidentiality agreement and is slandering/using libel against them, they do leaglly have a right to sue under US law. Right now, he hasn't really said much (unusual for him), so I don't think they should either, but I don't see anyone going after him for threatening to sue everybody before this event. That's just what I see on this site, I have never met him in person, so I'm not some old enemy from his Elan days, so maybe he really isn't like that and might just be under a lot of stress.
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Nobody is suing anybody, so everybody just quiet down. I can't recall one time on this site where I've threatened to sue anyone, although I have told a couple people who threatened my livelihood by e-mail that I wouldn't hesitate. I am not suit-happy, there have been so many threats on this site and I don't want to add to it. And you're right, I'm under a lot of stress.[ This Message was edited by: Peter Moore on 2004-04-18 12:59 ]
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for once i agree with peter moore.
take a chill pill people!
no one is suing anyone that i can see. no one has threatened to sue anyone either...if you will read carefully, you might see that that cat was just describing a potential....it woud seem that old pete signed something that made it clear that he was to keep his ADHD mouth under control . He didn't do that, instead he blabbed info that was confidential. He got let go.
I think, and im not that smart...that some one was worried that Pete would would continue to blab so they just wanted to make dam sure pete kept quiet as he contracted he would. legal ramiafications into the future...means that if you violate your contract..there will be consequences.Just Like ELAN! Just like in LIFE! That seems fair and reasonable to me..but like i said..im not too smart, or i'd be starring in that movie!
Get a grip, people.
william h. elan 3 '91
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:scared: ...and the hostility continues...
Should I end this message with PEACE?!
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Anyone who purports to know why I'm not on the film anymore is probably inaccurate. Those who know are not going to talk.
I must say I'm flattered that a topic about me is pushing six pages.
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marina..you are a firestarter..a provaceteur (sp?)
you like to start trouble...admit it. you do. you pretend to be for peace, but you love a good fight., am i not right people of fornits?
there is no hostility that i can see...an exchange of views...is all.
marina..get a life!
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Art, only the best topics for this board!
Sometimes, I just like to look out the window and think about me and how wonderful I am. Is there no end to my goodness? LOL. Don't you feel the same, Art?
Nah, I'm a self-righteous egotistical prick and I landed in the doghouse this weekend with the wife! Damn, being married is HARD!
Talk to you on IM tonight hopefully. This work computer can't handle it.
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On 2004-04-19 04:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"it woud seem that old pete signed something that made it clear that he was to keep his ADHD mouth under control . He didn't do that, instead he blabbed info"
Needless to say more. Yes, I call that HOSTILITY.
And I have a life too. A very good one indeed. I'm finishing my university with very good grades and I do a decent job as a teacher. I have friends and family that stand beside me and I'm pretty happy this way. So don't tell me to get a life.
No, I'm not starting anything. I'm reacting because I disagree with the things I've been reading in this site recently. Many of the posts express much hostility and immaturety. I believe we're all adults (for the most part) and we don't need to make threats or put ppl down. I pasted the original post so you can take a look at it and tell me that "carrying legal ramifications into the future" has absolutely NOTHING to do with suing.
So, in other words, I reacted not because I like a good fight, but because I have some integrity and I'm against hipocrisy.
Now, let me repeat:
Peace!
"Author Number 5 Road and Peter Moore
Sorted in ASC Order
Anonymous
Unregistered User Posted: 2004-04-14 11:22:00
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Peter Moore is no longer:
a. writing our narrative...
peter was never asked to write a screenplay, contrary to his statements.
b. a shareholder in our company, Eot Productions.
Anything posted on any website by Peter Moore to the contrary and regarding the progress of the film is not authorised by the producers and will be in violation of the confidentiality agreement Peter signed. Violating that agreement will carry legal ramifications into the future."
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no marina..you're just some whacko from outside the usa and you are clueless, to boot.
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dude?? WTF is your deal with Marina?
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Good Lord, you're not bringing any peace either, Mr. Anonymous. Let's all just chill and thank God we're not in Elan anymore. Isn't that what it's REALLY about?
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First I'm called "the voice of reason" , now that I disagree with certain things about EOT Productions, I'm a firestarter. lol
That's funny!!!!
::bigsmilebounce::
Peace!
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That was me, wasn't signed in.
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On 2004-04-19 08:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"no marina..you're just some whacko from outside the usa and you are clueless, to boot."
I wouldn't say wacko/clueless. Anyways that's what I mean by hostility and immaturity. Yes, I'm from outside USA, SO WHAT???
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to all on this forum,
this anon poster that u guys are arguing with, i just wanted to let you know that he has nothing to do with EoT productions, neither Jamie, myself or anyone else in our crew has or will be posting anonymously regarding anything having to do with the film, or #5 road. this is just to clarify whom ever is starting shit on this post is not affiliated with us at all.
-Jordan
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"anything having to do with the film, or #5 road"
correction: I meant EoT Productions, as-well.
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I miss the Jerky Boys
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to all on this forum,
this anon poster that u guys are arguing with, i just wanted to let you know that he has nothing to do with EoT productions, neither Jamie, myself or anyone else in our crew has or will be posting anonymously regarding anything having to do with the film, or #5 road. this is just to clarify whom ever is starting shit on this post is not affiliated with us at all.
-Jordan
who cares, stop talking about the documentary, you keep talking about not talking about it. loony fukn toony
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Good. :nworthy:
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It's all good, dude.
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On 2004-04-19 06:28:00, Peter Moore wrote:
"Anyone who purports to know why I'm not on the film anymore is probably inaccurate. Those who know are not going to talk.
I must say I'm flattered that a topic about me is pushing six pages. "
I do believe I rembering reading a colum about you eating poop that went 10 plus pages. So pushing 6 pages is not a world record Pete, you have a ways to go.
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On 2004-04-19 06:28:00, Peter Moore wrote:
"Anyone who purports to know why I'm not on the film anymore is probably inaccurate. Those who know are not going to talk.
I must say I'm flattered that a topic about me is pushing six pages. "
I do believe you had a colum that had over 10 pages about you eating poop. So seven pages is NOT setting or breaking a record for you Pete.
Made a typo in my last post. By the way, that colum about you eating poop was so disgusting and stomach turning. It's amazing what goes up on these forums here.
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It's amazing how ppl that make these stupid degrading comments NEVER have the guts to identify themselves.
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On 2004-04-21 03:24:00, Marina wrote:
"It's amazing how ppl that make these stupid degrading comments NEVER have the guts to identify themselves.
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Dont really understand why you think I made a degrading comment, I happen to think that all that poo eating content written about Pete was disgusting. I was just pointing out that the topic had umteen pages about him.
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it's a stupid lie posted by a troll. leave it alone.
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Hey Art,
I just react, that's what I do. That's what I did in Elan too. If I think something ain't right, I'll express myself. This is who I am, that's all. I don't lose much sleep over it. It's not like I don't know there r some really ignorant ppl in this site, and that no matter what I say to them, they'll continue to be ignorant. So, I continue to react. They do their thing, I do mine and it's all good. If it made me feel any less happy because of it, I'd see no point on posting here. The reason why I react is simple: I like to express my opinions and make my voice heard. For those who don't like it, too bad cause there r ppl who r interested in listening to what I have to say. I know you do. I understand your concern, Art, and Yes, I'm a sensitive person, but not that sensitive.
Take care, dude!
Peace to you all.
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Don't react,RELATE druggies
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Not everyone who went to Elan did drugs, or has a substance abuse problem.
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"Relating" sounds good. I too don't like the term "druggies". It's all in the past, dude.
Peace!
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I wonder if this jackass even went to Elan, because I heard very little about "druggies" there. Marc Rosenberg used to refer a lot to "the junkie mentality" when someone did something wrong, often for inappropriate situations, such as when some heavyset girl was eating sugar gum as opposed to sugarfree gum. Because obviously those ten extra calories in gum are really bad compared to the wholesome, balanced meals they served there. What a moron, not only does he not know anything about nutrition, but he is comparing a hardcore drug habit to being overweight. He liked to apply it to "rationalizing" and doing other things wrong in the program. He told us that going through Elan with "guilt" was like putting a needle in your arm. I believe that he was just trying to scare the white middleclass and upperclass kids into doing the program right, because most of them have never met a junkie. Actually, just being around Marc made me never want to even try heroin, because if that's what it makes you act like..... Anyways, just because someone does badly in Elan doesn't mean that they'll start shooting up, living on the streets, and sucking dick for crack.
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Actually, I would be interested in finding out how many people did badly in Elan and were successful in the REAL world, and how many did good in Elan and bad afterwards.
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Those of you who aren't druggies,are the sickest of the sick.The public masterbaters,the animal abusers,heed not my words for you are beyond help.Anyone up for an encounter group.You druggies love to scream at each other.
see you in hell
Dr.D
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On 2004-04-24 20:51:00, Dr.Davidson Dikkbreath wrote:
"Those of you who aren't druggies,are the sickest of the sick.The public masterbaters,the animal abusers,heed not my words for you are beyond help.ach other.
Not everybody that wasn't a drug addict was a sexual deviant, and many people were sent there for stupid things like disobeying their parents. There were very few drug addicts there, I don't know if this person was there when Elan took adults, but most people there were too young to develop alcohol or drug addictions. Most of the people who went to Elan have probably not even SEEN an addict in real life (watching Trainspotting does not count). Many people there were "recreational" users or were experimenting, but all these stupid placements including Elan have decided everyone's an addict. Kids have been being sent away for smoking weed and getting drunk twice. We have enough real substance abuse problems without these people that think they're alcoholics/addicts.
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I agree with you to a certain degree, but I must say there were ppl there that were into serious shit. I know I was one of them, but not as serious as the ones who didn't even have a family to stand by them. We cannot generalize, we each had our own reasons to be there, but I see your point: there were ppl that were sent there that had problems just like any average teenager.
Peace!
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You say you were sent to elan for disobeying your parents. Just a little misbehaving? And you were sent to me? By who,not my buddy Dr.Schwartz. I'm afraid you suffer from acute stupidity and are also a lost cause.
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Hey Dr. D how ya be? I was sent by the good doctor S. but hell I liked him had tons of fun with that SOB...... Who are you when were you at elan?
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It's pointless to argue with this troll. His own messages reveal his own "acute stupidness". I'd say ignore IT.
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That's good Marina,your'e getting your feelings off.You must hate me for what I put you through.But your getting better aren't you?You must have learned something from my program to be so self assured.Now smoke a joint and relax,Druggie Peace out
Dr.D
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I've always been better, don't give yourself too much credit, dude.
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HEY DR D. YOUR DENF OLDSCHOOL.. WHAT YEARS? AND WHY DO YA WANNA MESS WITH THESE KIDS? THE GIRLS DOING WELL MOVE ON TO ONE OF US WHO KNOWS WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT MAKE IT WORTH YOUR WHILE!
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On 2004-04-25 00:34:00, Marina wrote:
" I agree with you to a certain degree, but I must say there were ppl there that were into serious shit. I know I was one of them, but not as serious as the ones who didn't even have a family to stand by them. We cannot generalize, we each had our own reasons to be there, but I see your point: there were ppl that were sent there that had problems just like any average teenager.
Peace!
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I do remember some people there for some serious problems, but not too many, and I'm not going to embarrass them and put their names here. Many people were not at Elan for serious things. I said that when I left Elan, I planned to drink, and people acted like it was a big deal, just because everyone had to be so fake in there. And Elan refused to believe that I didn't have a drug problem or alcohol problem. And in order to come back and graduate, I had to be sober the entire time, even though I was starting college, and I was only a recreational user before coming to Elan. Obviously, I just told them I was sober even though I wasn't, and they somehow found out, so I didn't get to go back, and my mother was mad.
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Elaborating on this, I think I was in a different house than you, so maybe different types of people got in different houses. I was in 8, and half the time I was wondering why most of the people were even there!
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Things used to get blown out of proportion in Elan. I also think that some parents just didn't know how to deal with their kids' problems, leading them to drastic solutions, such as Elan. I still don't undestand their procedures as to selecting the apropriate house for each resident. I know that in 7, there were some ppl that really needed help. I've learned much about ppl and their realities just by sitting in some groups. I don't agree with their therapeutic methodology, but not everything that came out of those groups were bad.
Peace!
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You do not understand my motives. I do not want to mess with anyone young or old. All I have ever done is try to help people,it is my lifes work.A mighty profitable one at that. You do not have to thank me. Seeing how well you are doing is reward enough. Keep up the good work druggies
Dr.D[ This Message was edited by: Dr.Davidson Dikkbreath on 2004-04-25 20:58 ]
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Well lets look into this a little closer think I made a mistake you my friend are good very good , you see I know who you are cats outta the bag ... so stop messin around time to grow up..lol
ps. its not nice acting like a spoiled brat
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you see I know who you are cats outta the bag ...]
well do share then anon.
SyN
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you mean you really can't tell?
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On 2004-04-25 11:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
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I do remember some people there for some serious problems, but not too many, and I'm not going to embarrass them and put their names here. Many people were not at Elan for serious things. I said that when I left Elan, I planned to drink, and people acted like it was a big deal, just because everyone had to be so fake in there. And Elan refused to believe that I didn't have a drug problem or alcohol problem. And in order to come back and graduate, I had to be sober the entire time, even though I was starting college, and I was only a recreational user before coming to Elan. Obviously, I just told them I was sober even though I wasn't, and they somehow found out, so I didn't get to go back, and my mother was mad."
This is a textbook case of denial,and I'm not talking about the river in egypt. You 12 steppers know what I'm talking about. You have revealed yourself to be a lying manipulator who thinks drinking and drugs are more important than your own mother's happiness.
Shame on you.........................Druggie
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Hey Mike I know who this is not going to say ,but the little brat is only going by hear say.... wanna know about the good doctor talk to the ppl who were there with him. This spoiled child needs time out!!!! :lol:
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and here i always thought dr d was just a figurehead puppet bitch of joe,, hey doc,, is it true you used to snort lines of joes coke off the assholes of lil 13 yr old girls that always used to go to the office??or is that just an ugly rumor? :eek:
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what's the documentary about?
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ill tell ya if you wanna email me, But really, its in the past so im not inclined to really get into it much.. sorry im trying to make up for some of the time i lost trying to produce it..
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He is legit. I know him very well. I've known Jamie since 1998. Check him out on the web if you want, but he is the real deal.