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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: lovegoddess on April 10, 2004, 10:31:00 AM
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you are off herion right so I am wondering just as a person who has witnessed the recovery process why you would choose this for your name
it is kind of like a recovering alcoholic calling himself Jack Daniels
why would you glorify the very drug that supposedly ruined your life?
I have noticed also you tend to post lyrics about shooting up, why would you do that?
Isn't the point of getting off herion to not talk about it think about it and glorify it in your name and music? Why would you get off the drug just to live your life for herion in every other way?
Maybe that is not what you do but from the outside perspective it seems that way.
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He's still on methadone. Methadone is synthetic junk. He's still a junkie, just a govt. funded one. He has no job and lives in his parent's basement too. 2 years off dope, but on methadone. Yay for him. He's told everyone this before, where have you been?
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ok even so to rephrase the question then.
To be on methadone. Why would you talk about write about listen to herion songs?
What is the point? 2yrs on methadone still living for herion?
Why? opiod morphina 1st look and you think mophine opiates I would personally want to distance myself from the problem and move on with my life. Not still be just herion herion herion 2 yrs later.
Just curious.
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First, pedantic point: it's heroin, not herion.
Second, methadone is not just "synthetic junk." Addiction is compulsive use of a substance despite negative consequences; physical dependence is needing a substance to function.
For those for whom it works (and this is a larger proportion of heroin addicts than get well through any other treatment), methadone replaces addiction with physical dependence. We're all physically dependent on air, water and food-- methadone users simply have another dependence. Heroin maintenance can work as well because often the reason that heroin users face "negative consequences" is because the drug is impure and illegal and people with a legal supply can live functionally and healthily once they have a safe and regular supply. Those taking regular, stable doses of opiates no longer get high-- you couldn't tell them from others in terms of cognitive, emotional or physical functioning. Hence, perhaps, Rush Limbaugh not nodding on air.
For some, heroin lasts for too short a time so they are constantly high and then crashing-- methadone helps these folks because it lasts longer.
Anyway, some addicts like to romance their former addictions before they can move away from them-- if they are expressing it, rather than acting it out, this is fine. Most move on from this after a few years, but addiction can become an identity, so it takes time for people to do so.
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Very good, anon. But actually its the name of a character...and the character I had before I quit.
I am not glorifying anything...Its good therapy.
And I know it bothers people...People I dislike..
Therefore I come thru and leave lyrics and get people upset...then log off again...I dont even bother reading the threads or responses much.
Also I moved out of my parents house when I was 16...and didnt return until after a divorce at 28..
Who hasnt had rough times and wound up at their parents here and there? If you havent then good for you..
Id rather live with my parents than just marry some person and randomly leech off them while playing family and secretly trying to fuck people from a rehab web site...(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
Actually I do have a job and have just signed a lease at my own place...Thanks for all the concern and support. :rofl:
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Love goddess apparantly isnt smart enough to realize its My heckeller Morbid Opiate leaving the junky poems to make light of what I post..
I just did a find all posts on you Love goddess and the only things you have ever posted were in regards to me and Alex...
Class? What does that tell us? Thats right :rofl:
Try a little harder next time
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Opiod Morphina just needs a little time in the new, improved, all-ages, faith-based Straight,Inc. v2.0! Then we'll see how his druggie ass feels about his methadone crutch! No drugs for you in my Program, hophead! We'll get you Straight and you will like it. Pretty soon you'll be posting Steps and MIs instead of those trite lyrics from those druggie bands that you are so fond of. You'll be singing Straight songs with gusto and glee. Love ya!
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2 married women that narrows it down lol! :lol:
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato
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:lol: Like you dont know who they are Kaydee
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Dont try to figure me out ok? I cant so you cant so just do your thing and ignore me..
You only know what I want you to know and that aint much
I wake up with meathooks in my mind ya know?
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ne, two, three and to the four.
Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door
Ready to make an entrance, so back on up.
['Cause you know we 'bout to rip shit up!]
Gimme the microphone first, so I can bust like a bubble.
Compton and Long Beach together, now you know you in trouble.
Ain't nothin' but a G thang, baaaaabay!
Two loced out niggaz so we're craaaaazay!
Death Row is the label that paaaaays me!
Unfadable, so please don't try to fade this. [Hell yeah...]
But, uh, back to the lecture at hand.
Perfection is perfected, so I'mma let 'em, understand
From a young G's perspective.
And before me diggin' a bitch I have to find a contraceptive.
You never know she could be earnin' her man,
And learnin' her man, and at the same time burnin' her man.
Now you know why I ain't with that shit, lieutenant:
Ain't no pussy good enough to get burned while I'm up in it. [Yeah]
And that's realer than real-deal Holyfield.
And now you hookas and hoes know how I feel.
Well if it's good enough to give 'em all a proper chunk
I take a small piece of some of that funky stuff.
It's like this and like that and like this and uh
It's like that and like this and like that and uh
It's like this and like that and like this and uh
Dre, creep to the mic like a phantom...
Well I'm peepin', and I'm creepin', and I'm creep-in'.
But I damn near got capped, 'cause my beeper kept beepin'.
Now it's time for me to make my impression felt,
So sit back, relax, and strap on your seatbelt.
You never been on a ride like this before,
With a producer who can rap and control the maestro
At the same time with the dope rhyme that I kick.
You know, and I know, I flow some old funky shit
To add to my collection. The selection
Symbolizes dope. Take a tope but don't choke.
If you do, you have no clue
Of what me and my homie Snoop Dogg came to do...
It's like this and like that and like this and uh
It's like that and like this and like that and uh
It's like this, and who gives a phukk about those?
So just chill, till the next episode...
Fallin' back on that ass. Wit a hellified gangsta lean
Gettin' funky on the mic like a old batch of collard greens.
It's the capital S, oh yes, the fresh N double O P
D O double G. Why? D O double G ya' see.
Showin' much flex when it's time to wreck a mic.
Pimpin' hoes and clockin' a grip like my name was Dolomite.
Yeah, and it don't quit.
I think they in a mood for some muthaphukkin' G shit... [Hell yeah...]
So Dre. [What up Dogg?]
Gotta give 'em what they want. [What's that, G?]
We gotta break 'em off somethin'. [Hell yeah]
And it's gotta be bumpin'. [City of Compton!]
It's where it takes place, so we national attention.
Mobbin' like a mutherphukker, but I ain't lynchin'.
Droppin' the funky shit that's makin' the sucka niggaz mumble.
When I'm on the mic, it's like a cookie, they all crumble.
Try to get close, and your ass'll get smacked.
My muthaphukkin' homie Doggy Dogg has got my back.
Never let me slip, 'cause if I slip, then I'm slippin'.
But if I got my nine, then you know I'm straight trippin'.
And I'mma continue to put the rap down, put the mac down.
And if your bitches talk shit, I have to put the smack down.
Yeah, and you don't stop.
I told you I'm just like a clock when I tick and I tock.
But I'm never off, always on till the break of dawn.
C - O - M - P - T - O - N and the city they call Long Beach
Puttin' the shit together.
Like my nigga D.O.C., no one can do it better
Like this, that and this and uh
It's like that and like this and like that and uh
It's like this, and who gives a phukk about those?
So just chill, till the next episode...The people's right to change what does not work is one of the greatest
principles in our system of government
--Richard M. Nixon
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Sings...
I love the mountains ...I LOVE the rolling hills...I love the flowers I LOVE the daffodils..
uuuummmm
I am Straiht hear me roar in numbers too big too ignore and I know too much to go back on the floor
But I ate an embryo and theres a long long way to go...
*******
There ya happy?
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It's Time to throw your dubs up
Time to tear da fuckin' clubs up
Chronic 2 on the Jersey Set
For all you niggaz who ain't heard me yet
WE RIDE! Chronic 2000. Still Smokin' Baby.
Verse 1: VK
Release the funkiness out of that chain
Let's see who remain
Let's see who got the mack with the irreputable indisputable brain,
well unquestionably it's VK
Holler Mayday, I'm comin' out to play, la la na na
yo, years wit' papi cause I knew what I could do
It's that, take the microphone and hold my own
against any crew cuz, All I live to do is this
Flex my plex and release cres and layed back with the sticky buddhists
Partna it don't even make no sense to be percise
Atomic lyrics hittin' ya boots makin' your fingaz drop the mic
Handle your buisness,
who's da first eye to eye witness or view the pain on the brain
And plus get put on my shit list
I'm takin' bolders, slashin' 'em
Don't forget about your wrists, I'm takin 'em pullin you
Like you was a Bitch
Huh, My shit is addictive like that sticky green chronic
Had you lookin' up in the sky, thinkin' you bionic
Hook: Treach
It's time to throw your dubs up
Westside...
It's time to tear da fuckin' clubs up
That's Right...
Chronic 2 on the Jersey Set
Eastside...
For all ya'll niggaz who ain't heard me yet
He's right...
Verse 2: Treach
Okay, Black ??Dime Blaze??, the new millenium
I got a dick to smack a bitch and make her Kitty cum
Fuck wit Dimes, plus I trickle wit' the ghetto nickles
Fuck 5-0, I got a land with air-stolen missles
Death Row, and you thought this shit was shut Down
Fuck you , you might see me, 'Pac and Suge
buying weed from a chronic spot uptown
Cuz niggaz ain't dead, they fed, rollin' wit Jersey 30,000
Prophet niggaz is wildin'
Cuz we da niggaz dat'll jack yo ass, smack yo ass
take all yo ass's caps and cap yo ass
You started fuckin' wit da beast from the east
??Baz?? from the west, ???? from the south, and nothin' less from the midwest
Like Next I'm too close on two coasts,
Numero uno, it's khujo, bitch you know
On the side that'll snatch a snitch, Catch yo Bitch
Wrap a kix, Then smack yo rick
Hook: (2 times)
Verse 3: VK
Why try, I came to get a glimpse of yo whole clan off
But for yo rapidness, so woman to man, it stands off
I want the cultural girl for you but the zhory stacks ran off
Ima make the world see what I already saw
Me gaze switchin' the gang now I be a legit baller
We could go straight up or we could switch it to sesaw
I spray gats, so no love, with the power to sure improve
You pray for my destruction, I execute the plan that you used
I don't care who you send, no one is equivelent
I took your shit now you look annerexic on thin thin
Death Row ain't finished
So now you must be the antiwitness
leaft diminishin'
come up on a hustler
climbin' ya
rippin' ya by ya juggler, disconect yo mainframe
and disrespect ya like I punted ya
Mad atcha, unleash your ??disbecatin'?? death row gat atcha
Livin' wit the Sai, its the one that's gonna get back at ya
We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again---and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore.
Mark Twain
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On 2004-04-12 08:20:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"Dont try to figure me out ok?
I think we're way past that.
I wake up with meathooks in my mind ya know?
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Oh, I know. you've suffered so much more than the rest of us. we've all just had happy go lucky lives. we all just need to be understanding b/c of all you've been through. :roll:
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On 2004-04-12 08:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-04-12 08:20:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"Dont try to figure me out ok?
I think we're way past that.
I wake up with meathooks in my mind ya know?
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Oh, I know. you've suffered so much more than the rest of us. we've all just had happy go lucky lives. we all just need to be understanding b/c of all you've been through. :nworthy: :lol:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo.
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
A-fucking-MEN!!! :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Good answer Reagan, Hey Therion what the hell, you a little pissed at these ladies because they found out who the real you is and you scared them off??
What is your obsession with treating women like shit. You sure you and Alex arent related, man you two act alike. No wonder you are aloneTo seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.
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whoever these women are have GOT to be pretty miserable at home to take up with these guys. I mean, can you imagine what they have to be living with in order for THOSE guys to look better?
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No shit we have seen the pictures...bad hair really bad.......
The internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.
--John Gilmour
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On 2004-04-12 13:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"whoever these women are have GOT to be pretty miserable at home to take up with these guys. I mean, can you imagine what they have to be living with in order for THOSE guys to look better?"
Who said anyone "took up" with anyone? It's all hearsay! Besides, people who have a warped perception of niceness or openness often mistake this friendliness for something more. I doubt the two women in question were trying to "take up" with either of them, and it still doesn't explain why these two need to attack and act like total psychopaths. Who wants to flirt with or be friends with a psycho?
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On 2004-04-12 13:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"whoever these women are have GOT to be pretty miserable at home to take up with these guys. I mean, can you imagine what they have to be living with in order for THOSE guys to look better?"
You mean like, Kadeejaded did? Wasn't Therion moving up to New York live with her? And she has a child!!!!! :scared:
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That was pretty much my point. I was being sarcastic.
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Well said, man.
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[You said}
?Heroin maintenance can work as well because often the reason that heroin users face "negative consequences" is because the drug is impure and illegal?
--No, mainly it?s because they get very, very sick within 24 hrs of not getting it again.
[You said]
?and people with a legal supply can live functionally and healthily once they have a safe and regular supply. Those taking regular, stable doses of opiates no longer get high-- you couldn't tell them from others in terms of cognitive, emotional or physical functioning. Hence, perhaps, Rush Limbaugh not nodding on air.?
-- That?s total bullshit. Methadone makes you nod like hell for hours, and gets you high as hell in the process. You?re obviously giving some text definition, and not speaking from experience. Being on methadone is a dependence. Dependence and addiction are pretty much the same thing. Heroin may be illegal, but alcohol sure isn't. Doesn?t mean dependence on it is okay, but it?s more acceptable. Methadone junkies are just taking the easy way out, avoiding having to actually kick. It?s a weakness, it?s an impairment, it?s an addiction.
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"like kaydeejaded did"
I am glad I am fodder for your gossip.
Lots of people have tenacity when they don't really have to ever show their faces or back their opinions up with an identity. At the very least at least I have the courage to get an identity that you can slam me with the same identity so you can track my actions, opionions veiws and the like. I don't attack people from behind the shield of anonymity so that I can just return to obscurity image intact once again and hide.
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
-- John Muir
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On 2004-04-12 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
-- That?s total bullshit. Methadone makes you nod like hell for hours, and gets you high as hell in the process. You?re obviously giving some text definition, and not speaking from experience. Being on methadone is a dependence. Dependence and addiction are pretty much the same thing. Heroin may be illegal, but alcohol sure isn't. Doesn?t mean dependence on it is okay, but it?s more acceptable. Methadone junkies are just taking the easy way out, avoiding having to actually kick. It?s a weakness, it?s an impairment, it?s an addiction.
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Actually, it's not bullshit at all. I was on methadone for around 7 ro 8 years for a back and a jaw injury. I worked and no one could tell I was taking anything. I was not sleepy, dopey, bashful or grumpy :lol:. That's one of the reasons they DO use it for heroin addicts. It keeps away the withdrawal without giving them the high. In fact I would even venture to guess that you probably know a few people that are on it (it's becoming more widely used for pain control) and you don't even know it. The sadist cannot stand the separation of the public and the private; nor can he grant to others the mystery of their personality, the validity of their inner self...in order for him to feel his maximum power, he wants the world to be peopled with concrete manipulatable objects...
-- ERNEST BECKER, The Structure of Evil, 1968.
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On 2004-04-12 16:09:00, cayohueso wrote:
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On 2004-04-12 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
-- That?s total bullshit. Methadone makes you nod like hell for hours, and gets you high as hell in the process. You?re obviously giving some text definition, and not speaking from experience. Being on methadone is a dependence. Dependence and addiction are pretty much the same thing. Heroin may be illegal, but alcohol sure isn't. Doesn?t mean dependence on it is okay, but it?s more acceptable. Methadone junkies are just taking the easy way out, avoiding having to actually kick. It?s a weakness, it?s an impairment, it?s an addiction.
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Actually, it's not bullshit at all. I was on methadone for around 7 ro 8 years for a back and a jaw injury. I worked and no one could tell I was taking anything. I was not sleepy, dopey, bashful or grumpy :lol:. That's one of the reasons they DO use it for heroin addicts. It keeps away the withdrawal without giving them the high. In fact I would even venture to guess that you probably know a few people that are on it (it's becoming more widely used for pain control) and you don't even know it. The sadist cannot stand the separation of the public and the private; nor can he grant to others the mystery of their personality, the validity of their inner self...in order for him to feel his maximum power, he wants the world to be peopled with concrete manipulatable objects...
-- ERNEST BECKER, The Structure of Evil, 1968.
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You make a very good point. Many methadone maintainence patients are very functional, and it not only keeps them from feeling dopesick, but gets them out of the heroin scene--copping dope, shooting dope, obtaining more money (often illegally) to cop again. With its longer halflife, the time between doses and the onset of withdrawal is considerably longer. If someone is comfortable being on methadone maintainence for the rest of their life, and they are able to function where they could not before (due to addiction), then more power to them. Personally, I did not like the idea of being cointrolled by a clinic's rules, FOREVER. I kicked cold turkey a little over a year ago and I think it waas the best decision I have made in my life. I had detoxed and kicked many times before, only to pick up the gear again after a few weeks off of it. I did not choose to go the methadone route because I saw so many people who were just as addicted to it as they were heroin, and quite a large percentage were doing a lot more than their prescribed dosage, buying other people's take outs and so on. It was not something that appealed to me.
That said, I see methadone maintainence as a very valid and useful solution to many people's heroin addictions. If it helps them become more functional, and gets them out of the "cop shoot cop" cycle of heroin addiction, then I think it is a beneficial thing to not only the addict, but society as a whole. Granted, there are more desireable things than methadone maintainence, but for many people, it is better for than being strung out on an expensive, illegal substance. If there were more enlightened attitudes towards substance abuse and addiction treatment in this country than the one Anonymous has chosen to illustrate their ignorance by displaying, perhaps better alternatives would exist for addicts in this country. Until then, I think methadone maintainence is as valid a choice as any for someone who is addicted to narcotics. For Anon. to mock and condemn someone out of hand for the method that they choose to deal with this debilitating addiction is both callous and contemptable. Anonymous, I hope you get burglarized by a bunch of junkies looking for stuff to boost so they can score.
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On 2004-04-12 16:09:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
""like kaydeejaded did"
I am glad I am fodder for your gossip.
Lots of people have tenacity when they don't really have to ever show their faces or back their opinions up with an identity. At the very least at least I have the courage to get an identity that you can slam me with the same identity so you can track my actions, opionions veiws and the like. I don't attack people from behind the shield of anonymity so that I can just return to obscurity image intact once again and hide.
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
-- John Muir
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=4532&forum=7 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=4532&forum=7)
It's not gossip. Here's where you both talked about moving in together this Spring. You both deleted it too. I didn't make up what I said, you said it. And who cares if I register or not, I'd be anonymous to you even if I did. That's an ineffective rebuttal.
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It is an effective rebuttal because you have no identifiable name to identity no representation of yourself on here. You basically cannot be attacked back. And you know it therefore you attack me and hide.
And your facts are wrong, and you are wrong, and why is your life you empty that your number one thing to do is talk about me when you don't even know me.
I never wished to speak of my family on here but Morli brought it up, and afterwards we talked about it and she apologized and I apoligized for my own childish behavior towards her.
I decided to keep that area of my life private.
You are a coward. You attack me yet will not allow yourself to become vulnerable to attack. You are a pathetic little weakling who probably gets walked all over in his job, gets walked all over by his boss, gets pushed around by his family, got picked on his whole life and has no other outlet then to hide and try and make himself feel better by coming to a chat board and talking some shit about people. You remind me of beaten dog. Weak pathetic, and broken.
All we ask is to be let alone.
-- Jefferson Davis (1808-1889): First Message to the Confederate Congress, March,1861.
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I'll give round one to Kaydee. Can you go the distance, Anonymous?
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On 2004-04-13 07:32:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"It is an effective rebuttal because you have no identifiable name to identity no representation of yourself on here. You basically cannot be attacked back. And you know it therefore you attack me and hide.
And your facts are wrong, and you are wrong, and why is your life you empty that your number one thing to do is talk about me when you don't even know me.
I never wished to speak of my family on here but Morli brought it up, and afterwards we talked about it and she apologized and I apoligized for my own childish behavior towards her.
I decided to keep that area of my life private.
You are a coward. You attack me yet will not allow yourself to become vulnerable to attack. You are a pathetic little weakling who probably gets walked all over in his job, gets walked all over by his boss, gets pushed around by his family, got picked on his whole life and has no other outlet then to hide and try and make himself feel better by coming to a chat board and talking some shit about people. You remind me of beaten dog. Weak pathetic, and broken.
All we ask is to be let alone.
-- Jefferson Davis (1808-1889): First Message to the Confederate Congress, March,1861.
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I was with you Kaydee, up until the last paragraph. I agree your personal life should be yours and yours only. Your family shouldn't be discussed here if you don't feel comfortable with the idea. But the final paragraph became the kind of attack you were unfairly hit with. Meaning you don't know him any more than he knows you. Granted you didn't asked to be drug into any of this so why respond in such a manner? You call him a weakling for talking shit about others, the point in true straightling lingo "apply it to yourself."
Oh and by the way I already know I didn't follow MLA format.
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[You said]
"I kicked cold turkey a little over a year ago and I think it waas the best decision I have made in my life. I had detoxed and kicked many times before, only to pick up the gear again after a few weeks off of it. I did not choose to go the methadone route because I saw so many people who were just as addicted to it as they were heroin, and quite a large percentage were doing a lot more than their prescribed dosage, buying other people's take outs and so on. It was not something that appealed to me."
-- You still have to kick methadone sooner or later, or forever be a methadone slave. So why the are you defending methadone maintenance again?
Cayohueso, you don't count anyway, you weren't taking it for heroin addiction maintenance.
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On 2004-04-13 08:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
-- You still have to kick methadone sooner or later, or forever be a methadone slave. So why the are you defending methadone maintenance again?
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No one has to kick methadone maintainence. Most of the people who choose to go that route will be on it for the rest of their lives. I'm defending it because it enables many people to become functional again, instead of ripping me off to get an expensive, illegal fix. Your smug, self-satisfied, ignorance wafts through your posts like the smell of shit from a pigsty.
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Blah blah blah... Do you realize we both just said the same thing, and I agreed with you already? Why do you want to argue and throw insult? You hope I get robbed, well that's not very nice either! I don?t suddenly wish harm or ill will on you. You can smell me? What? What?s wrong with you? :eek:
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[You said]
"If someone is comfortable being on methadone maintainence for the rest of their life, and they are able to function where they could not before (due to addiction), then more power to them. Personally, I did not like the idea of being cointrolled by a clinic's rules, FOREVER."
I agree. I just wonder why you're defending it if you yourself would not choose it.
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On 2004-04-13 08:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"[You said]
"I kicked cold turkey a little over a year ago and I think it waas the best decision I have made in my life. I had detoxed and kicked many times before, only to pick up the gear again after a few weeks off of it. I did not choose to go the methadone route because I saw so many people who were just as addicted to it as they were heroin, and quite a large percentage were doing a lot more than their prescribed dosage, buying other people's take outs and so on. It was not something that appealed to me."
-- You still have to kick methadone sooner or later, or forever be a methadone slave. So why the are you defending methadone maintenance again?
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And here you contradict the initial reason you started debating in the first place!
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I was with you Kaydee, up until the last paragraph. I agree your personal life should be yours and yours only.
I concur, except wasn?t she still goading and gossiping about someone else?s personal life with Opiod_Morphina (her ex-bo) in the beginning of this thread? If you partake in doing something that you tell someone else not to do, isn?t that called being a hypocrite?
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God man my ex bo? was that internet flirtation on the fornits board the absolute highlight of your entire life? It has made more of an impact of you then it ever did on me. I made that joking comment to him to basically underscore for the world that it was not me that was one of the raunchy marrieds that was trying to have sex with him. My God this is unescapeable.
I do feel like I am in group. "You were nice to the junkie" "You flirted with the junkie" "You did" lets repeat it over and over and over and over again. So what? are you trying to shame me?
Why do you care so much. It was well over a month ago and its still on your mind. Why the hell do you hate him so much anyway. Because he was honest on here about not having a perfect life after Straight? Because he said some things that you didn't agree with. Tolerance I try to be tolerant and when I am not I feel guilty when I am cruel to people I feel bad.
He has said things I didn't agree with he posted lyrics I didn't like. But, why does this get discussed every day?
I am not a cruel person. This is bringing out the worst in me and making me lash out. Whoever you are, I really don't care for your personality, and that is the kindest way I can put what I feel for your relentless repetition and dredging up of the fact that your favorite conversation topic is my "ex bo" who I never met. Who lives in Texas while I live in NY.
I like to talk about politics the environment the world around me and a thousand other things yet you keep making me feel like I have to respond to this drivel.
What I would like to know what it is about this is so infinately facinating to you. Does it piss you off that I was friends with someone who was less then perfect in your eyes. Are you an angry and lonely person? I don't mean that condescending way it is just the only logical explaination I can come up with for your totally innapropriate and misplaced interest and anger towards me and him.
Are you angry that I reached out to him when he came on the board and became friends with him. That he reminded me of a lot of my friends from the woodstock area that also became addicted to heroin.
The only person who has not gotten over it is you."I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease."
"That all depends, sir, upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
--Disraeli to Gladstone
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Angry? (((((LOL))))) Why don?t you ?apply it to yourself" I'm just pointing out the obvious.
raunchy marrieds that was trying to have sex with him
You actually base your reality on what that loser says? You?re a stupid hypocrite too then. You?re the one who was starting an on-line relationship with the dude, and it wasn?t just flirtation, he was going to move up there with you, you wrote it yourself!!! I know I?m not the only one that read it. What a joke you are, and a liar too. You shamed yourself...
Gotten over it? I?m just poking fun at it. :smokin:
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"apply it to myself"
you seem to enjoy that phrase in fact anything program, confrontational and mean...as long as you can sufficiently hide yourself from any critisim, is entertainment to you.
What is it that I am supposed to apply to myself? Not to listen to anything a person who quit doing drugs said? Well I'll start with you.
I felt slightly bad, after the picked on comment I made regarding you earlier but I honestly believe it is true. You are probably a total nerd, dork, geek or whatever they call it wherever your from. But alas you are afraid to tell so I cannot tailor it to you lingo.
Basically your the kid no one liked. No girls ever hit on you and you probably thought Fuck! Even a junkie can get a girl to hit on him before me. And it mad you angry. And you got madder and madder. And you probably felt even worse as you would wander home alone. After being the loser at your job the loser at life. Because God knows if you were successful you would not be this nasty and so inclined to lash out and try and hurt people.
So make fun, all you want.
I am fine with my actions and that is all that matters you can make fun of it until your hearts content.
From what I see of you I would much rather spend time talking to Opiod_Morphina then whoever you are. We can easily forgive a child who is afraid
of the dark. The real tragedy of life is
when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato
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On 2004-04-13 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Angry? (((((LOL))))) Why don?t you ?apply it to yourself" I'm just pointing out the obvious.
raunchy marrieds that was trying to have sex with him
You actually base your reality on what that loser says? You?re a stupid hypocrite too then. You?re the one who was starting an on-line relationship with the dude, and it wasn?t just flirtation, he was going to move up there with you, you wrote it yourself!!! I know I?m not the only one that read it. What a joke you are, and a liar too. You shamed yourself...
Gotten over it? I?m just poking fun at it. :smokin:
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Could this Anon be Mr ACO Chris himself?????
mmmmm ponder the thought
Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
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On 2004-04-14 06:22:00, Morbid_Opiate wrote:
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On 2004-04-13 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Angry? (((((LOL))))) Why don?t you ?apply it to yourself" I'm just pointing out the obvious.
raunchy marrieds that was trying to have sex with him
You actually base your reality on what that loser says? You?re a stupid hypocrite too then. You?re the one who was starting an on-line relationship with the dude, and it wasn?t just flirtation, he was going to move up there with you, you wrote it yourself!!! I know I?m not the only one that read it. What a joke you are, and a liar too. You shamed yourself...
Gotten over it? I?m just poking fun at it. :smokin:
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Could this Anon be Mr ACO Chris himself?????
mmmmm ponder the thought
Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
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I think it was th "(((((((LOL)))))))))" that gave it away :wave: But this is far from demonstrating that the authorities must interpose to suppress these vices by commercial prohibitions, nor is it by any means evident that such intervention on the part of the government is really capable of suppressing them or that, even if this end could be attained, it might not therewith open up a Pandora's box of other dangers, no less mischievous than alcoholism and morphinism.
Ludwig Von Mises
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are you kidding me
then my assumtions were dead on
a nerd
a shut in
a geek
AHAHAHAHAHAHH :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
who watches way to many movies for anyone who has a life!
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot
easier.
--GW Büsh, Governor of Texas. Governing Magazine, 7/98
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God I am majoring in the right thing! :wink: I can analyze what a loser someone is from the posts.
A clockwork orange GET OVER THAT TOO
OCD much....?Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys
--P.J. O'Rourke
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LOL, yep now thats funny :wave:
A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question
about it.
--GW Büsh, Business Week, July 30, 2001
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On 2004-04-14 07:43:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"God I am majoring in the right thing! :wink: I can analyze what a loser someone is from the posts.
A clockwork orange GET OVER THAT TOO
OCD much....?Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys
--P.J. O'Rourke
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: "Narcotics have been systematically scapegoated and demonized. The idea that anyone can use drugs and escape a horrible fate is an anathema to these idiots. I predict that in the near future right-wingers will use drug hysteria as a pretext to set up an international police apparatus."
--William S. Burroughs
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On 2004-04-14 07:41:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"are you kidding me
then my assumtions were dead on
a nerd
a shut in
a geek
AHAHAHAHAHAHH :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence
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NO WAY! :eek: shit, that is TOO funny
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There is just something about guys running around in top hats and jock straps that makes me say "GAY"
ACO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
-- John Muir
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let not forget combat boots and suspenders attached to those jock straps very gay (((((LOL)))))
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves
--Ronald Reagan
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Education is that which remains, if one has forgotten everything he learned in school.
--Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years, 1950
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On 2004-04-14 09:22:00, Morbid_Opiate wrote:
":lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Education is that which remains, if one has forgotten everything he learned in school.
--Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years, 1950
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Alex and Chris, didn't your mother ever warn you of the dangers of playing in a filthy river ?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: In war, the stronger overcomes the weaker. In business, the stronger imparts strength to the weaker.
--Frederic Bastiat
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may I ask what that is?
A student burst into his office. "Professor Stigler, I don't believe I deserve this F you've given me." To which Stigler replied, "I agree, but unfortunately it is the lowest grade the University will allow me to award."
--Professor Stigler
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A photo from clockwork orange, a very gay movie
Emotions rule the world; Is it any wonder that it's so mucked up?!
Bill Warbis
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Ok I totally thought I was Chris dressed up, was hoping actually
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oops that was me
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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On 2004-04-14 11:21:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"oops that was me A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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:nworthy: May your days be joyfully challenging and your words artfully true
-- Ginger Warbis SMA, `00
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On 2004-04-14 11:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ok I totally thought I was Chris dressed up, was hoping actually "
:nworthy: We can easily forgive a child who is afraid
of the dark. The real tragedy of life is
when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato
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The film A Clockwork Orange was made in 1971 and was an adaptatation of the novel written by Anthony Burgess in 1962. I can see what you're getting at there, but to say that the film is is "gay" is a bit of a stretch. The story was set in a sort of futuristic Britain where gangs of Nadsats (hoods) roamed the streets, etc. The Brits can seem a bit queer to us to begin with. Didn't some of us call the Beatles fags and so forth back in the days of the British Invasion?
Though there is plenty of violence (of every sort) in the story, there are no homo scenes.
About Anthony Burgess:
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/burgess.htm (http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/burgess.htm)
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No Frank has nothing to do with the British the movie was bad...gay and bad. Look at the outfits 71 or not GAY GAY and more GAY and very BAD poor cinema very poor.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.
Tacitus, Roman senator and historian (A.D. c.56- c.115)
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On 2004-04-14 11:49:00, Frank Discussion wrote:
"The film A Clockwork Orange was made in 1971 and was an adaptatation of the novel written by Anthony Burgess in 1962. I can see what you're getting at there, but to say that the film is is "gay" is a bit of a stretch. The story was set in a sort of futuristic Britain where gangs of Nadsats (hoods) roamed the streets, etc. The Brits can seem a bit queer to us to begin with. Didn't some of us call the Beatles fags and so forth back in the days of the British Invasion?
Though there is plenty of violence (of every sort) in the story, there are no homo scenes
About Anthony Burgess:
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/burgess.htm (http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/burgess.htm)"
:lol: Psychedelics often produce psychotic and even violent behavior in those who have never used them.
--Timothy Leary
Very eloquently put but still GAY and BAD :lol:
MORBID ACO[ This Message was edited by: Morbid_Opiate on 2004-04-14 12:03 ]
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I'll agree to disagree about the film, but you should read the book if you haven't already - an excellent novel.
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On 2004-04-14 12:09:00, Frank Discussion wrote:
"I'll agree to disagree about the film, but you should read the book if you haven't already - an excellent novel. "
I will pick up a copy TO WIPE MY ASS WITH ((((LOL)))
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: only kiddingDon't hate the media. Become the media
--Jello Biafra
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Morbid, you're a fucking dumbass...
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On 2004-04-14 12:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Morbid, you're a fucking dumbass..."
Ok Alex or Chris ?
dumbass maybe, but just stating a opinion shouldn't matter unless you actually liked that GAY movie :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary.
-- Richard Harkness, The New York Times, 1960
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On 2004-04-12 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"[You said}
?Heroin maintenance can work as well because often the reason that heroin users face "negative consequences" is because the drug is impure and illegal?
--No, mainly it?s because they get very, very sick within 24 hrs of not getting it again.
[You said]
?and people with a legal supply can live functionally and healthily once they have a safe and regular supply. Those taking regular, stable doses of opiates no longer get high-- you couldn't tell them from others in terms of cognitive, emotional or physical functioning. Hence, perhaps, Rush Limbaugh not nodding on air.?
-- That?s total bullshit. Methadone makes you nod like hell for hours, and gets you high as hell in the process. You?re obviously giving some text definition, and not speaking from experience. Being on methadone is a dependence. Dependence and addiction are pretty much the same thing. Heroin may be illegal, but alcohol sure isn't. Doesn?t mean dependence on it is okay, but it?s more acceptable. Methadone junkies are just taking the easy way out, avoiding having to actually kick. It?s a weakness, it?s an impairment, it?s an addiction.
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You are very ignorant.
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On 2004-04-12 13:43:00, Morbid_Opiate wrote:
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Good answer Reagan, Hey Therion what the hell, you a little pissed at these ladies because they found out who the real you is and you scared them off??
What is your obsession with treating women like shit. You sure you and Alex arent related, man you two act alike. No wonder you are aloneTo seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.
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No haha...Most of them scared me away. People like Morli...I wouldnt wish her upon my worst enemy.
If you think shes not a fucking whore...and if you think theres nothing wrong with cheating on your spouse ..then I hope you dont feel too bad
when it happens to you..
I have no problem in the women dept...I just made the mistake of trying to be friends with some women that turned out to be whores..and whores are boring..therefore I dont like them..
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On 2004-04-12 15:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"[You said}
?Heroin maintenance can work as well because often the reason that heroin users face "negative consequences" is because the drug is impure and illegal?
--No, mainly it?s because they get very, very sick within 24 hrs of not getting it again.
[You said]
?and people with a legal supply can live functionally and healthily once they have a safe and regular supply. Those taking regular, stable doses of opiates no longer get high-- you couldn't tell them from others in terms of cognitive, emotional or physical functioning. Hence, perhaps, Rush Limbaugh not nodding on air.?
-- That?s total bullshit. Methadone makes you nod like hell for hours, and gets you high as hell in the process. You?re obviously giving some text definition, and not speaking from experience. Being on methadone is a dependence. Dependence and addiction are pretty much the same thing. Heroin may be illegal, but alcohol sure isn't. Doesn?t mean dependence on it is okay, but it?s more acceptable. Methadone junkies are just taking the easy way out, avoiding having to actually kick. It?s a weakness, it?s an impairment, it?s an addiction.
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You know nothing about MMT do you? Or heroin..
Heroin has a half life of 5 hours..not 12
Therefore theres spikes in the blood level that produce a high..
Methadone doesnt cause you to get high or nod at a proper dose..Hell I even split my dose in half so I dont get high..I have pot for that
If you eat, sleep, etc in a healthy manner you shouldnt nod or get high...
Opiate addiction is a matter of brain chemistry not behaviour...
You are voicing straights view on addiction "Behavior problem"
If I was such a "weak addict" how did I quit drinking..and doing all other drugs? Hell Im sure most of you get fucked up alot more than me..
But think wghat you want...you can point out my addiction all you want. It doesnt change the fact that you are Child abusing hypocrites..liars...cowards (anons)
And I never said my life was worse than other peoples...I was just talking about me...
Hell I could have hidden it and acted like Im so together and successful...like you guys do.
Think what you want ...but at least inform yourself before posting about MMT etc.
If you think its wrong, I dont give a shit it saved my life.
And Kaydee and I are good friends we still talk all the time. I didnt scare any women off...there were just 4 I was talking to..2 of which I decided they were people I dont want to know (morli is one)
So yah 2 I cut out of my life and 2 I still speak to...Oh I cut JLoar out too...guess thats 3
The other 2 I still am friends with.
Put your name up if you wanna argue with me , otherwise you are just a coward. and an ignorant one as well.
Dont hate me because I look better than you...am smarter than you...and have overcome things that would make you crumble.
No matter what you say I am better than you.
You are a brainwashed cult fuck I am not..
I WITHSTOOD STRAIGHT AT 13 YEARS OLD...YOU GAVE IN AND TURNED INTO MONSTERS TO GET OUT...THAT IN ITSELF PROVES I AM GREATER THAN YOU.
Now shine my fucking boots, phaser
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ANd the whole Kaydee/therion thing was a joke on you guys for the most part.
Yah right we met on message board and I was going to move to NY....
We made plans to hang out then didnt..big fucking deal.
I think mabey you are jealous that people find me captivating and you...boring.
I have had what 4 people mimic my names..and have had more focus directed towards me than most any of you..
Because people fear me and are jealous. Im better looking, have a nice cock, and generally just better in every way than most of you.
But whatever..
Thats my post for the week...I may or may not pop in in a week or 2 and note your ridiculous little opinions.. :lol:
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Crystal world with winter flowers
Turns my day to frozen hours
Lying snowblind in the sun
Will my ice age ever come?[ This Message was edited by: Opiod_Morphina on 2004-04-15 08:10 ]
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On 2004-04-15 08:10:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"ANd the whole Kaydee/therion thing was a joke on you guys for the most part.
Yah right we met on message board and I was going to move to NY....
We made plans to hang out then didnt..big fucking deal.
I think mabey you are jealous that people find me captivating and you...boring.
I have had what 4 people mimic my names..and have had more focus directed towards me than most any of you..
Because people fear me and are jealous. Im better looking, have a nice cock, and generally just better in every way than most of you.
But whatever..
Thats my post for the week...I may or may not pop in in a week or 2 and note your ridiculous little opinions.. :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: Bravo Bravo, I like the new and improved Therion with your new found self esteem, it beats the old pitty poor me posts :nworthy: Bravo my friend
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Whatever dude Ive been nothing but cool to you and helped you when you asked me to get you out of a jam. Dont let the smell of pussy cloud your judgement.
Ill do whatever the fuck I like...and thats just that.
Chalk me off as one less person to call if you need help if thats the way you wanna be.
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On 2004-04-15 08:14:00, thepatriot wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 08:10:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"ANd the whole Kaydee/therion thing was a joke on you guys for the most part.
Yah right we met on message board and I was going to move to NY....
We made plans to hang out then didnt..big fucking deal.
I think mabey you are jealous that people find me captivating and you...boring.
I have had what 4 people mimic my names..and have had more focus directed towards me than most any of you..
Because people fear me and are jealous. Im better looking, have a nice cock, and generally just better in every way than most of you.
But whatever..
Thats my post for the week...I may or may not pop in in a week or 2 and note your ridiculous little opinions.. :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: Bravo Bravo, I like the new and improved Therion with your new found self esteem, it beats the old pitty poor me posts :nworthy: Bravo my friend"
Thanks...new job, new girlfriend ( a real life one hahaha)and moving into my own place again on the 1st.
My life has gotten 1000 % better...
Peaks and Valleys man..
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On 2004-04-15 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Whatever dude Ive been nothing but cool to you and helped you when you asked me to get you out of a jam. Dont let the smell of pussy cloud your judgement.
Ill do whatever the fuck I like...and thats just that.
Chalk me off as one less person to call if you need help if thats the way you wanna be.
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You may be into fucking peoples wives but I think its bullshit. And if I ever caught someone sleeping with someone I was in a relationship with ID kill them. Period.
IF you dont wanna commit dont marry.And if you wanna fuck up peoples marriages and families to get laid...you deserve whatever hardships you get..
But you have made it clear to me you have no sense of loyalty at all.
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Wow! Your 2 weeks only seems like minutes.
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lets let this go
and for god's sake it's Soccer mom! ... and the group leader was a clown.
GregFL
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Come on now EVERYONE makes simple spelling mistakes. Don't they Kaydee "misbehavior"?
So please let the spelling crap go. This was obviously a typo.
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Sorry I am a soccer mom! Excuse my misbehavior lolllers! :wink:
There are two kinds of people; those who's lives have been somehow touched by harsh tragedy and those you don't know very well.
-- Ginger Warbis
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Play nice kids!! :grin:
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On 2004-04-15 08:25:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Whatever dude Ive been nothing but cool to you and helped you when you asked me to get you out of a jam. Dont let the smell of pussy cloud your judgement.
Ill do whatever the fuck I like...and thats just that.
Chalk me off as one less person to call if you need help if thats the way you wanna be.
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You may be into fucking peoples wives but I think its bullshit. And if I ever caught someone sleeping with someone I was in a relationship with ID kill them. Period.
IF you dont wanna commit dont marry.And if you wanna fuck up peoples marriages and families to get laid...you deserve whatever hardships you get..
But you have made it clear to me you have no sense of loyalty at all.
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Everyone betrays you? Is that it? He was speaking his mind, and isn't the only one to think that. Many others obviously agree with him. For once and for all I HAVE NEVER, NOR WOULD I EVER CHEAT ON MY HUSBAND! I worship my husband, and vise versa. We have a wonderful relationship, and are very happy. Y O U are the one who has been threatening to "destroy" my marriage for over 5 weeks now, you inane nil. You can?t hurt our marriage, and to think you could shows just how irrational you truly are. We don?t keep secrets from each other. You have no power over us.
Your harassment and, bottom of the barrel attacks are so over the top it's unbelievable. Please just stop already. You?ve proven to be below the level of anything I ever initially complained about you being. I honestly do pray that you recover from your obviously severe mental illness that keeps you from realizing how low you?ve sunk, and allows you to be so incessantly vulgar and cruel. Again, I?m sorry what I thought of you was so important that you feel the need to lash out at me for this long, but what I said, I firmly stand by.
I am NOT the one who anonymously posted that recent complaint! Stop calling everyone you don?t agree with me! It?s not me! I would really love for you to go away from this board for a long, long, long time. It seems ever since you got here it's been going down hill. (Just my personal opinion, no need to lash out, although I'm sure you will anyway, you always do)
Timmy's right, move on already. PLEASE?
Morli
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On 2004-04-15 08:10:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"ANd the whole Kaydee/therion thing was a joke on you guys for the most part.
riiiiight...........sounds like PeeWee Herman saying "I meant to do that" after he falls off his bike. :grin: :roll:
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On 2004-04-15 08:14:00, thepatriot wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 08:10:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"ANd the whole Kaydee/therion thing was a joke on you guys for the most part.
Yah right we met on message board and I was going to move to NY....
We made plans to hang out then didnt..big fucking deal.
I think mabey you are jealous that people find me captivating and you...boring.
I have had what 4 people mimic my names..and have had more focus directed towards me than most any of you..
Because people fear me and are jealous. Im better looking, have a nice cock, and generally just better in every way than most of you.
But whatever..
Thats my post for the week...I may or may not pop in in a week or 2 and note your ridiculous little opinions.. :nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy: Bravo Bravo, I like the new and improved Therion with your new found self esteem, it beats the old pitty poor me posts :nworthy: Bravo my friend"
I dunno, confidence is one thing...but it seems to be at the expense of others around him.
By reading the last few lines of the last 5 or 6 posts of Therion's...it almost reads like an equation......something like = Look how good I am and look how bad you are so fuck it. Go back and read the last lines of every post and replace them with this sentence. It fits every time.
I just dont understand the extremes man, either you are the best of the best or the worst of the worst in Therions book...there is no in between. Therion I just cant believe that you would be able to be that way in your life and function at all. Just because you are corrected or called out doesnt mean the person doing it is a bad bad person every time. SOMETIMES you really should be called out, as should everyone. I think its just a really huge cop-out to say "whatever, Im this and your that and I could care less so fuck it". The whole "this is my world and your just livin in it " thing is so tired.
In truth it reminds me alot of how people talked to me in the program. Look at what YOURE doing Carmel, look at what YOURE saying Carmel, look how BAD you are being Carmel....on and on always deflecting our own faults off the wrongs of others. The more you ripped other people the less you got ripped yourself so maybe no one would catch on to what YOUR problem was. It didnt even matter if anyone wanted to have a resolution, so long as the drama continued everyone looked good and all was well. Im not perfect, and I dont always say the right thing...but for chrissakes I dont just stomp around and name call....thats so intensely juvenile. But Ive told you that before.
I dont think I have seen you post one single message outside of an stupid argument in a long long time. Most people who get involved in a tiff still function outside of it on this board. If its so important that you be understood here, if you really are as deeply effected by whats happened to you and how your life has become...why dont you channel any energy into any real conversation or exchange outside of this nanny nanny boo boo shit? Posting song lyrics is fine too, but its still difficult to interpret what your thinking or what it is exactly you are looking for when you do that. Again, it just seems to be an easy way to stay in complete control with a fast escape close at hand. Like, look how I post something so profound and meaningful, but I am not really having to be profound and meanigful at all. And if someone takes it wrong or catches on to me, I can just tell them they arent profound and meanigful enough to understand.
I just think you are terrified, and you shouldnt be. This place is a safe place to just lay it out. Thats what its here for you know?
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Sorry...above was me...forgot to sign in!
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Well Carmel just stating the fact that his post was better than they usually are but how long his confidence lasts is yet to be seen, just making light that his post was a little more colorful than the usual ones he posts.
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okay here's my theory:
alex is kaydee and therion and opiod_morphina and maybe one of the dr. fucktards.
And when opiod says that the kaydee / therion thing was a joke "on us" perhaps he's speaking from the point of view of knowing that these people don't really exist because he's made all of this crap up!
Has anyone actually conversed wtih kaydee to confirm that she is a woman who lives in NY? Am I way off base or could my theory make sense?
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It's called being bi-polar.
:nworthy: :nworthy: :nworthy:
I just dont understand the extremes man, either you are the best of the best or the worst of the worst in Therions book...there is no in between.
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On 2004-04-15 15:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Has anyone actually conversed wtih kaydee to confirm that she is a woman who lives in NY? Am I way off base or could my theory make sense?"
I was chatting with Therion online one day when Kaydee IM'd me, so I am sure they are two different people.
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oh my God that made me laugh :wink:
He that lives upon hope will die fasting
--Benjamin Franklin 1758
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On 2004-04-15 13:47:00, Maude wrote:
You?ve proven to be below the level of anything I ever initially complained about you being.
:tup: That pretty much sums up this whole episode in a nutshell.
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On 2004-04-15 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 08:10:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
"ANd the whole Kaydee/therion thing was a joke on you guys for the most part.
riiiiight...........sounds like PeeWee Herman saying "I meant to do that" after he falls off his bike. :grin: :roll: "
seems this bears repeating
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On 2004-04-15 13:47:00, Maude wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 08:25:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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On 2004-04-15 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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On 2004-04-12 13:37:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
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On 2004-04-11 08:19:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
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(I should really post my IM logs from these 2 women..you guys would shit, but alas Im going to print them and mail them to the husbands first....stay tuned)
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Are you playing Pat Roberson and the 700 club? There has been some married women come to my rescue and I never threatened to start family distress over any aftermath. If married ladies want to play around a little, let them. Are you tring to scare them into the Iraqi way of life? Next time I am stranded somewhere fresh out of jail with no shoes needing a ride to the airport that is 50 miles away and the only person I know in the area is a married woman, she might be scared to give me a ride because some guy like you threatened to cause her problems for being too friendly with other guys. Coming from one of your allies in this "internet war" I say get over it and delete any incriminating IM's you have and stop using it as ammo. "
Whatever dude Ive been nothing but cool to you and helped you when you asked me to get you out of a jam. Dont let the smell of pussy cloud your judgement.
Ill do whatever the fuck I like...and thats just that.
Chalk me off as one less person to call if you need help if thats the way you wanna be.
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You may be into fucking peoples wives but I think its bullshit. And if I ever caught someone sleeping with someone I was in a relationship with ID kill them. Period.
IF you dont wanna commit dont marry.And if you wanna fuck up peoples marriages and families to get laid...you deserve whatever hardships you get..
But you have made it clear to me you have no sense of loyalty at all.
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Everyone betrays you? Is that it? He was speaking his mind, and isn't the only one to think that. Many others obviously agree with him. For once and for all I HAVE NEVER, NOR WOULD I EVER CHEAT ON MY HUSBAND! I worship my husband, and vise versa. We have a wonderful relationship, and are very happy. Y O U are the one who has been threatening to "destroy" my marriage for over 5 weeks now, you inane nil. You can?t hurt our marriage, and to think you could shows just how irrational you truly are. We don?t keep secrets from each other. You have no power over us.
Your harassment and, bottom of the barrel attacks are so over the top it's unbelievable. Please just stop already. You?ve proven to be below the level of anything I ever initially complained about you being. I honestly do pray that you recover from your obviously severe mental illness that keeps you from realizing how low you?ve sunk, and allows you to be so incessantly vulgar and cruel. Again, I?m sorry what I thought of you was so important that you feel the need to lash out at me for this long, but what I said, I firmly stand by.
I am NOT the one who anonymously posted that recent complaint! Stop calling everyone you don?t agree with me! It?s not me! I would really love for you to go away from this board for a long, long, long time. It seems ever since you got here it's been going down hill. (Just my personal opinion, no need to lash out, although I'm sure you will anyway, you always do)
Timmy's right, move on already. PLEASE?
Morli
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Morli you are Garbage and noone asked your opinion. Please die already. ::kiss:: dieplzkkthxdrivethru
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it's not Morli dweeb! That whole diatribe was such bullshit. You're embarrassed by your behaviour so you come up with...oh, I didn't really mean any of that, it was all a joke on you guys. Give me a fucking break! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Methadone doesnt cause you to get high or nod at a proper dose..Hell I even split my dose in half so I dont get high..I have pot for that
If you eat, sleep, etc in a healthy manner you shouldnt nod or get high...
Opiate addiction is a matter of brain chemistry not behaviour...
You are voicing straights view on addiction "Behavior problem"
If I was such a "weak addict" how did I quit drinking..and doing all other drugs? Hell Im sure most of you get fucked up alot more than me..
But think wghat you want...you can point out my addiction all you want. It doesnt change the fact that you are Child abusing hypocrites..liars...cowards (anons)
And I never said my life was worse than other peoples...I was just talking about me...
Hell I could have hidden it and acted like Im so together and successful...like you guys do.
Think what you want ...but at least inform yourself before posting about MMT etc.
If you think its wrong, I dont give a shit it saved my life.
That?s funny, because when I was on methadone, seven years ago, I got so high right after dosing that I could barely drive home, or function in school! It took me a good three or more hours to stop nodding, and they wanted to raise my dose! Hell, when I first moved away from where the dope and the clinics were, (after kicking) I used to buy methadone pills from a guy here in town to GET HIGH. That was over six years ago. Don?t try to tell me it?s not dangerous or addictive! I?ve known someone who died from a methadone overdose! It?s just as dangerous as heroin. I personally see it as both a behavior problem and a physical/psychological addiction. Why choose to use a crutch the rest of your life? Why not choose to be free from the restrictions of knowing that if you don?t get "your dose" (fix) then you?ll get very, very dopesick! (or could even die!) That?s called a living hell in my book. A prisoner of YOURSELF. I lived it, and I chose to kick it! We?re talking addiction, we?re talking dependence. It?s your choice, but don?t tell me just because the government provides it legally, that it?s an ?okay? or a harmless, non-addictive choice, because that IS total bullshit. You told me yourself that you nodded every morning after you dosed, and you just admitted that you have to split your dose in half not to get high. I would too if I had to take 190mg a day to keep my ADDICTION under control. I really feel sorry that you are in so deep, it must totally suck to be you. Besides, all your "facts" come from the MMT clinic, and they don't want you to stop taking it anyway!
Now, didn?t you live with two strippers (whores) when you were a dope fiend/drug dealer? Why would you call a soccer mom (I?m not really) a whore? Is it because you resent what you know you could never get? I think so. I remember telling you about Jonathan and I, and how in love we were, and how I would never cheat on him, (because you asked) I remember you asking about it because you just couldn?t understand how I could say I still loved (as a friend) Stephen Brooks. I remember you having trouble believing that I wouldn?t cheat on my husband because of that. It?s not my problem that you are a paranoid, untrusting, manic depressive! Doesn?t mean I?m not a flirt, and it doesn?t mean my husband isn?t fully aware of that fact. Still, flirtation doesn?t make me "a whore." I mean shit Brad, I encouraged you to go out and meet girls! Go get laid! Not flirt with me! I was really happy for you and Kaydee! You?re cute like a little brother, not a man I find sexually attractive! Besides, wasn?t it you who complemented me all the time? Telling me how lucky my husband was? Any flirtation that did go on was harmless and all in good fun. You?re only flattering yourself with the, "She was trying to fuck me!" stretch, and it sounds like a personal problem to me anyway.
I apologize to the board for responding to this again, but after all the abuse and slander I have had to read from this guy, I wanted to respond. I know, I shouldn't even find it worth my time, but I guess it's my problem because I did, afterall, waste my time chatting with this irrational little boy to begin with.
Live and learn, ahhh yes.
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Fret not Morli.......they've exposed themselves for who they are. No one takes anything they say seriously. Mostly just find it annoying. They really need to get a life. Good to see you have a good one going. :wave:
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Thanks Anonymous. :wink:
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If you are on the correct dose of methadone. You should not be nodding off, you should not feel high. You should feel normal.
If I were to take methedone, I would get high yes, because I have never done herion, but thats different.
At a theraputic dose you should function completely normally. There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy.
--George Washington
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thanks doctor jaded :roll:
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On 2004-04-16 07:42:00, Opiod_Morphina wrote:
Say what you want ...none of your opinions mean shit to me. Im not here to make friends. I didnt like you guys in Straight and dont like you now.
Then why don't you just go away!!!
Its more than just personal thing you all deserve to be punished for the abuse you instilled upon people like me.. So here I am years later, a thorn in your side..
Once again, you've suffered SOOOO much more than the rest of us. ::mecry:: ::mecry:: :scared: I'm sure you have us all shakin in our shoes now! :rofl: :rofl:
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Its just that whole thing about control.
Therion was in control the whole time, in fact he orchestrated it, and he is so clever and cunning that he's got us all running through hoops.
The only person you are trying to convince is yourself Therion. Do you really want the actual weight of what you are implying to be true and correct? The fact that you are an individual so fucked up that you would actually play an intricate game for months and months twisting and deceiving and leading people on? Is that what you really want to be? Never mind about anyone else cutting you down.....you are doing a fine job of doing it yourself.
Correct me if I am wrong, but....it doesnt seem as if anyone is really all that entangled by your web of destruction Therion. I dunno, I am not trying to be mean....I just really think that if you were capable of such things, if you actually meant what you said...1) you would never say it to begin with, and....2)You would have a better strategy than huffing around and pissing on about how much we all hate you and how much you hate us and how we dont matter and we should all just die and go away. You cant even have a decent exchange with anyone without it ending up with the same shit about how you never cared to begin with and blah blah. I mean, COME ON, if you wanna be a sly dude you need to work on your game brother. Because this one stinks!
I dont give a shit about being on methadone. We all have our demons in the chemical closet and I dont think drugs are even worth slinging mud about. When someone is fucked up...drugs are at the ass end of a long , long rope. I know plenty of people who have never touched them and are extremely fucked up. Poor bastards dont even have an ESCAPE in taking drugs! [ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2004-04-16 21:25 ]