On 2004-03-25 09:25:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
"Sorry to hear about your troubles, but on the same token and during this same time period I had an uncle die, 2 friends die from heart attacks, a friend shot and murdered by his girlfriend and then she shot and killed herself and I am loosing track of my friends sent to prison this last month. Plus my life is daily chaos, partly because people like you don't do what they say they are going to do and then come up a shit excuss 2 months later. You could have called instead of leaving us hanging all weekend.
Here's a quote from my Attorney Ian Cantacusine,
"Avoid any dealings with this Jennifer Loar. As an abuser claiming to be a victom her motives for writing a book will be perceived as pure greed."
So you don't want to mess with copyrights?? I think your tring to cut corners in order to save a buck or 2, just like a greedy corperation that refuses to buy safty gear for their employees. Your story is going to be inaccurate. What, are you gonna go by memory and rip off Wes' web site. Thats what it sounds like to me. And what about the truth? You and Steve Brooks were on the top of the abusive staff list. And now you two are buddies again. When you visit him in jail do you 2 claim to be victoms with a free ticket for your actions because you were treated wrong? You claimed that you were humiliated because you were sat on the guys side. Truth is you love male attention. Hell, I think I am the only guy that did not fuck you after $traight.
What about when you went back on staff? The execs wanted to put you on a grad reveiw, put you back on 1st and make you go through the program again. But your parents gave such a nice contribution to $triaght that they put you back on staff. What's it like buying your way through life? I've asked myself, "How does she live with herself?" and then I remember, "she tried to kill herself a couple of times." Well I wish better luck on your next attempts.
I am notriously know for causing corner cutters to spend much more than they tried to save. Maybe I'll post my history of exploitation and corrective measures.
I hope you've had a spritual awakening as a result of reading this post.
If you ever make any money off of the $traight story, give it to charity or I will take it away from you and give it to them myself. And loosing to me cost even more money, I have references. "
You are scum of the earth Timmy Kemp. It shows in who you're friends with, and your daily actions. Fuck you.
, "she tried to kill herself a couple of times." Well I wish better luck on your next attempts.
On 2004-03-25 10:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"All three of you are reptiles, and not worth my registration. Heartless cold inhuman reptiles, seething with hatred and venom. I only pity you. "
All three of you are reptiles, and not worth my registration. Heartless cold inhuman reptiles, seething with hatred and venom. I only pity you.
I'm not the troll, Timmy Kemp is. Most of this site's "regular users" are fucking trolls. It's pathetic how unproductive and negative this place is.
You all show what heartless drones, full of uncontrolled anger and rage you are because of Straight, Inc. every single day. Perfect examples of WHY NEVER TO SEND YOUR CHILD TO THESE PLACES. Listen to all of you! You're cruel and mean, and it's like, la-te-da~ just another day on Fornits!
GROW UP IDIOTS!!!
On 2004-03-25 10:32:00, Anonymous
You all show what heartless drones, full of uncontrolled anger and rage you are because of Straight, Inc. every single day. Perfect examples of WHY NEVER TO SEND YOUR CHILD TO THESE PLACES.
Listen to all of you! You're cruel and mean, and it's like, la-te-da~ just another day on Fornits!
On 2004-03-25 10:49:00, RTP2003 wrote:
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So you agree that we are providing a valuable service to teens and their parents who may surf in here to get info on Straight-like programs.
were you even there?
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Given the choice between dancing pigs and security, people will choose dancing pigs every time.
-- Ed Felton (quoted in www-security about Active-X)
On 2004-03-25 11:01:00, RTP2003 wrote:
"If revenge ain't worth it, why is it such a popular idea?
"
When an innocent Californian millionaire gets killed by a drug squad
trying to seize his house with a bogus search warrant, people better ask themselves if they really want to turn their cops into money-makers.
--Vancouver Police Const. Gil Puder
On 2004-03-25 11:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-03-25 11:01:00, RTP2003 wrote:
"If revenge ain't worth it, why is it such a popular idea?
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Bovine ignorance? :???: "
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Annon...sounds like you should make direct ammends to the group
OMG.....I just had a Straight Inc flash back....somebody fucking shoot me!!!!!!!
On 2004-03-25 10:32:00, Froderik13 wrote:
"QuoteAll three of you are reptiles, and not worth my registration. Heartless cold inhuman reptiles, seething with hatred and venom. I only pity you.
Morli? Have to ask, it just sounds so much like you."
On 2004-03-25 12:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Therion, I think you ought ot reconsider what you said about Steve Brooks. I mean, didn't Morli say he was a misunderstood, sweet and loving guy deep down?
Cowboy Bob"
BTW, if you're still in the Dallas area, you're in a good spot. Check into the backgrounds of the colorful characters involved in the sheetrock and forensic labs scandals as well as those involved in the Tulia saga. I think you'll find some fairly direct ties back to Calvina Fay's Drug-Free Business Initiative out of Houston.
Although the warehouse style treatment programs under the name Straight have all shut down over a decade ago (thanks, Richard!) the Program is still in full swing, still operating largely on public funding and on publicly mandated private funding. Remember those raps about how we'd be taking over the world so that, when we had kids, we wouldn't have to put them in the Program cause the whole country would be the program? They weren't kidding.
Don't hate the media. Become the media
--Jello Biafra
Forget Straight bullshit....if we were all the same way we were back then...we would all still be in fucking group.
I always wondered why if we were to overcome drugs and alcohol...that we had to admit to being powerless....we arent powerless. That step always made me feel like I was running to stand still.
On 2004-03-26 08:11:00, Carmel wrote:
"Oh, and by the way guys...I hate to break it to you but hate, anger, and desire for revenge are unfortunately not selective emotions. If you live your life incorporating these feelings toward Straight...it will only seep out into every other aspect of your emotional spectrum. Soon, everything you encounter is met by an attitude tainted with anger and hate. Thats just the way it goes.
Its easy to hate poeple and feel cheated...its harder to forgive what was done to you...and make room for healing and progress. I hate what was done to me...it makes me angry...but I would be the first person to test the waters of forgiveness if I were to meet up with one of my tormentors.
Blaming people and and Straight is just an excuse to cover up flaws that you are afraid to try and fix, for fear that you might fail.Is this advice free, Doctor, or do you need to see my HMO card?
People view forgiveness as a weakness, when its truly the harder of the two choices to make.
Once the hate and anger is gone and they have forgiven...they are terrified of having to step up and fill that void with something positive instead....which they may not feel they know how to do.Jeez, can you quit with the pop-psychology for five minutes?
I would feel so defeated if I ever allowed something that happened to me to rule over my life forever and make me bitter.
being powerless over something most CERTAINLY doesnt give you the ability to make ANY decision about it. Good or bad. Its a Catch 22. Taking the initiative to "let go of something" is exerting power over it, one way or another.
taking the road of forgiveness gets alot more accomplished...hate and anger only breeds more hate and anger. There isnt resolution...and once revenge is exacted....whats left? Revenge is never as sweet afterwards as it seems to be before it is carried out. Revenge is narrow-minded.Au contraire, Carmel. I doubt that you speak from experience.
Revenge does not equal resolution...the hate and anger doesnt get magically taken away once our tormentors are held accountable. It becomes bitterness and sucks the REST of our life away.
Shooting a staff member in the face wont give me my life back
Cops; you wake `em up you gotta dance with `em. They lead.
-- Jack McNulty
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.
--Anonymous
On 2004-03-25 11:18:00, RTP2003 wrote:
"I think all former Straight Staff should either start fighting the good fight, as shown by the honorable Mr. Bradbury, or take a page from the samurai handbook and commit ritual suicide. To me, those are the only ways they can make up for the heinous actions they performed willingly, for pay.
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If triangles had a God, He'd have three sides.
--Old Yiddish proverb
The way you guys are going about it, you won't be getting justice, just a wasted life.
Most of the people who are really angry right now have just found these. I can understand their rage. It still comes up in me, but I guess I've gotten more used to dealing with it in the time that I"ve been here...they haven't had that chance yet. That's all I'm trying to say.
If you want to view Ray Bradbury as a hero, that?s your prerogative, but don?t place such expectations on all the victims of Straight who want to move on with their lives, heal from their wounds, and love and be happy with the families they have today. The way you guys are going about it, you won't be getting justice, just a wasted life. It just seems futile. Nothing can bring back those wasted years. No amount of punishment, or legal compensation can give you back your childhood, or your 20s and 30s either. It?s gone, move the hell on, or perish in your own resentment and discord. Waiting to watch them burn is never going to get you anywhere, except OLDER.
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People everywhere enjoy believing things that they know are not true. It spares them the ordeal of thinking for themselves and taking responsibility for what they know.
BROOKS ATKINSON (1894-1984), Once Around The Sun, 1951.
On 2004-03-26 10:26:00, The Butcher wrote:
"Anybody want to fill me in about this Steve Brooks guy? There was a question raised about whether he was a good staff member or a bad staff member. I'd like to know more... :grin: "
I just call it an alternative to hatred.
On 2004-03-26 08:56:00, The Butcher wrote:
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It's better to regret something you HAVE done than something that you haven't done..."
On 2004-03-26 10:23:00, Maude wrote:
psychos spouting about death, and suicide like it?s okay to wish death on people?
The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure.
-- Albert Einstein
On 2004-03-26 10:26:00, The Butcher wrote:
"Anybody want to fill me in about this Steve Brooks guy? There was a question raised about whether he was a good staff member or a bad staff member. I'd like to know more... :grin: "
On 2004-03-26 09:16:00, Carmel wrote:
Shooting a staff member in the face wont give me my life back, wont help with my anxiety attacks or my paranoia, it wont add a year onto my life at the end in repayment for the one that was taken from me by the Program.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
-- Hunter S. Thompson
On 2004-03-26 14:45:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
"And Jennifer, you never left Valorie a message. I understand taking care of family, but it would have taken 15 seconds to call us. And yes we are totally different. You saw Jason P.'s flier and judgementally stated that you would not go to that party because of the people, "not your cup of tea." As far as you not buying my files to research, I don't really care. [LIE]I would have given them to you if it came down to it.[/LIE] But your right, we have different veiwpoints. I've hoped for someone to write a story that would be interesting for non-straight people to read. Honestly, most of this stuff is boring to the average person. It's going to take a very interesting story for anyone to read past the first page. And from the ideas you told me on the phone BORING. Plus the story coming from you with the role you played doesn't set well with a lot of people. As far as my facts, I have witnesses. Explain how you got back on Sr. Staff after tring to kill yourself again. I am right and you know it and your dad is too ashamed to admit it. Or maybe you don't know, your kinda blind like that."
Sorry to hear about your troubles, but on the same token and during this same time period I had an uncle die, 2 friends die from heart attacks, a friend shot and murdered by his girlfriend and then she shot and killed herself and I am loosing track of my friends sent to prison this last month. Plus my life is daily chaos, partly because people like you don't do what they say they are going to do and then come up a shit excuss 2 months later. You could have called instead of leaving us hanging all weekend.
Here's a quote from my Attorney Ian Cantacusine,
"Avoid any dealings with this Jennifer Loar. As an abuser claiming to be a victom her motives for writing a book will be perceived as pure greed."
So you don't want to mess with copyrights?? I think your tring to cut corners in order to save a buck or 2, just like a greedy corperation that refuses to buy safty gear for their employees. Your story is going to be inaccurate. What, are you gonna go by memory and rip off Wes' web site. Thats what it sounds like to me. And what about the truth? You and Steve Brooks were on the top of the abusive staff list. And now you two are buddies again. When you visit him in jail do you 2 claim to be victoms with a free ticket for your actions because you were treated wrong? You claimed that you were humiliated because you were sat on the guys side. Truth is you love male attention. Hell, I think I am the only guy that did not fuck you after $traight.
What about when you went back on staff? The execs wanted to put you on a grad reveiw, put you back on 1st and make you go through the program again. But your parents gave such a nice contribution to $triaght that they put you back on staff. What's it like buying your way through life? I've asked myself, "How does she live with herself?" and then I remember, "she tried to kill herself a couple of times." Well I wish better luck on your next attempts.
I am notriously know for causing corner cutters to spend much more than they tried to save. Maybe I'll post my history of exploitation and corrective measures.
I hope you've had a spritual awakening as a result of reading this post.
If you ever make any money off of the $traight story, give it to charity or I will take it away from you and give it to them myself. And loosing to me cost even more money, I have references.
you did nothing here but openly publicize what a stupid low-life asshole you are.
On 2004-03-26 15:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Quote
On 2004-03-26 14:45:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
"And Jennifer, you never left Valorie a message. I understand taking care of family, but it would have taken 15 seconds to call us. And yes we are totally different. You saw Jason P.'s flier and judgementally stated that you would not go to that party because of the people, "not your cup of tea." As far as you not buying my files to research, I don't really care. [LIE]I would have given them to you if it came down to it.[/LIE] But your right, we have different veiwpoints. I've hoped for someone to write a story that would be interesting for non-straight people to read. Honestly, most of this stuff is boring to the average person. It's going to take a very interesting story for anyone to read past the first page. And from the ideas you told me on the phone BORING. Plus the story coming from you with the role you played doesn't set well with a lot of people. As far as my facts, I have witnesses. Explain how you got back on Sr. Staff after tring to kill yourself again. I am right and you know it and your dad is too ashamed to admit it. Or maybe you don't know, your kinda blind like that."QuoteSorry to hear about your troubles, but on the same token and during this same time period I had an uncle die, 2 friends die from heart attacks, a friend shot and murdered by his girlfriend and then she shot and killed herself and I am loosing track of my friends sent to prison this last month. Plus my life is daily chaos, partly because people like you don't do what they say they are going to do and then come up a shit excuss 2 months later. You could have called instead of leaving us hanging all weekend.
Here's a quote from my Attorney Ian Cantacusine,
"Avoid any dealings with this Jennifer Loar. As an abuser claiming to be a victom her motives for writing a book will be perceived as pure greed."
So you don't want to mess with copyrights?? I think your tring to cut corners in order to save a buck or 2, just like a greedy corperation that refuses to buy safty gear for their employees. Your story is going to be inaccurate. What, are you gonna go by memory and rip off Wes' web site. Thats what it sounds like to me. And what about the truth? You and Steve Brooks were on the top of the abusive staff list. And now you two are buddies again. When you visit him in jail do you 2 claim to be victoms with a free ticket for your actions because you were treated wrong? You claimed that you were humiliated because you were sat on the guys side. Truth is you love male attention. Hell, I think I am the only guy that did not fuck you after $traight.
What about when you went back on staff? The execs wanted to put you on a grad reveiw, put you back on 1st and make you go through the program again. But your parents gave such a nice contribution to $triaght that they put you back on staff. What's it like buying your way through life? I've asked myself, "How does she live with herself?" and then I remember, "she tried to kill herself a couple of times." Well I wish better luck on your next attempts.
I am notriously know for causing corner cutters to spend much more than they tried to save. Maybe I'll post my history of exploitation and corrective measures.
I hope you've had a spritual awakening as a result of reading this post.
If you ever make any money off of the $traight story, give it to charity or I will take it away from you and give it to them myself. And loosing to me cost even more money, I have references.
From the sounds of it you're keeping some pretty top choice company there Timsters. I?ve got to hand it to you buddy because, you did nothing here but openly publicize what a stupid low-life asshole you are. I have a little advice for you: Next time you want to throw insults at someone else, try NOT making yourself look like a classless moron in the process. It might help conceal what you do a poor job hiding on your own. BTW, It?s ?YOU?RE? not ?YOUR? when wanting to say, ?YOU ARE? you dipshit.
Now, repeat after me: ?The rain in Spain falls mainly in the plain.? "
?The rain in Spain falls mainly in the plain.? "
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
-- John Muir
On 2004-03-27 12:43:00, Antigen wrote:
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?The rain in Spain falls mainly in the plain.? "
Ugly people :question: :question: :question:The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
-- John Muir