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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 21, 2004, 11:48:00 AM
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Miller Newton is living in Madiera Beach, Florida. He is going by the name Father Cassian Newton. He is running a retreat house for a church called "Antiochian Orthodox Church". they have a website and i'm looking into further details. -F.S. kobc 85-90
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this is it folks . http://www.antiochian.org/ (http://www.antiochian.org/) virgil i will follow you far beyond your end.
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Do you mean to tell me that miller is hiding behind the face of Yeshua, That's hebrew for Jesus????????????????????
This man is like lucifer , who comes as an angel of light
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posted from another topic...
yes that is their address. i have seen the house. beautiful... asshole. the property he owned across the street WAS 4 little 1 br apts that had like a little parking lot in front of them. i spoke to the tenants just as newton was moving back to florida and they said they were given notices to move out. (i think to cover newtons ass with income and taxes and from being sued) they referred to him as "the doc". he proceeded to build what looked to me like one big friggin group room. turned out to be a "sanctuary" for one of newtons good friends who was a monk in NY that was loosing HIS sanctuaryor something. i confirmed this on the phone with newton. newton applied for a license to counsel kids with the state of fl...he was denied because of his controvercial issues in NJ (spoken from a woman at the licensing office to me)and told he could only get one if he worked either UNDER someone, (and we all know how NEWT feels about power...) OR ...now pay attention...ORRR if he went religious!! Sound familiar? Chose a religion that you can CHANGE YOUR NAME in..(fr cassian newton) and turned the sanctuary that was supposed to be for a monk friend into his own. so i called the zoning people and asked what was he licensed for and he said commercial...i asked if a church was considered commercial, and he said no it has a different zoning law thing...so i informed him that newton had a sign out front on sundays inviting the public to services and the times. he said he would look into it. i saw the sign a few weeks later and called my first name basis friend at the zoning office again. never saw the sign again. neighbors dont like him. ive spoken to them. a few neighbors are working a lot on keeping an eye on him. right before KIDS in NJ was shut down, there were rumors he was making a halfway house down here and there was a whole big city meeting cause people were pissed. they had heard about his places in NJ and CA, and UT and TX and didnt want it in their city (thank god...smart fuking people) he denied it and said if they knew anything about his programs, they would know he didnt believe in halfway houses (ya think? WOW one time he DIDNT lie) i truly believe he WAS going to do a small group room thing andd use the 4 apts as newcomer housing until people from NJ got settled. but then he got caught so he found a different route...the boat was gone after the law suit with rebecca started...think he gave it to his son..the one that talks to him...and one more tidbit..he has a 3br on the river, 3 story..nice. the house next to him looks like it used to be a very big garage..tiny ..no boat slip..i went to appraisers office...Newts house valued at 87,000 i think i remember. the neighbors rinky dink? 127,000. later on found out Newton used to work in the appraisers office when he lived in madeira beach prior to kids. his political career started in like 1971. the year i was born...hes been a sick man for a long time.
but this is all personal knowledge. you can ask newton..he knows me.
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As many of us as possible should go to the "email" section of that website and write "For frightening information on Father Cassian Newton, currently serving at the Madiera Beach, fla. Church, please visit http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com) and http://www.kidsofnorthjersey.com (http://www.kidsofnorthjersey.com).
We knew him when he was under the name Miller Newton."
Sincerely, a former victom.
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I searched the website listed. Found no Fr. Cassian Newton, or Newton at all. Found no church in Mad. Bch. closest one in Pinellas Park, he's not listed there either.
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I believe that Miller Newton has figured out that there are a variety of people who know what he has done and are checking his every move on the internet and regularly monitoring his public activities. As a result I believe he has asked his local church and the antiochian church generally to keep his name off of their web sites so that he can keep as low a profile as possible- sort of like ex- nazis living little lives in south america after world war 2. I think that he and the mrs. have downsized their lives with the support of the few remaining cultists (moss- giganti- jackie messaros) and their young children who have been kept from their families and are being raised with the newtons as their grandparents.
--not the great retirement of wealth and fame he thought he was entitled to but far better than what he deserves.
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I didn't even see a church in Madeira Beach listed......where is it?
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If it's Kim who says that's where he is, then I believe her. Besides, all we have to do it contact the diocese, not just that church specific. Let em' know who they've got in thier midst!
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this is frank s. my mom emailed the church and thats how we verified he is running a retreat house with them, they emailed back.
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Thank you Frank.
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Why is he even doing this kind of work? What does he have to gain from it? This guy is not to be trusted.
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this is kim... last thing i heard is he got removed from the church, but frank, please email me and let me know about what your mom found out. I can personally look into it further. Not harrassing, you, Newton, just checking into some public knowledge.
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If anyone has info on which church he is affiliated with now, please post it!!!!!! I'm dying to find out. The anons were me before, sorry thought I was logged in. I went to the sites listed and found nothing in Mad Beach. The closest I found was Pinellas Park and he's not there either.
A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit.
-- In the August 1993 issue, page 9, of PS magazine, the Army's magazine of preventive maintenance
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this is the church he was most recently affiliated with. The web site previously had references to him in several locations but they appear to have been removed. I do not know if it is because he left this church or more likely because he simply asked to keep his role secret.
http://www.stnicholasaoc.com/index.htm (http://www.stnicholasaoc.com/index.htm)
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lim, we just emailed the church's website and they responded saying he is running a treat house. we got the response last week. --frank s.
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I would like to send them a link to the kidsofnorthjersey website. Before I do, do any of you foresee any reason I shouldn't? Do you think it could have any backlash on me legally?
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Don't sweat it...you could send it via a throwaway yahoo account from a public computer. Send it to them!!! TODAY!!!!!!! :lol:
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I was wondering the same thing. Is it going to screw up anyone else's efforts to get info on him???
I have found that the best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it
--Harry S. Truman
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http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com) would be a good one to send, with that big picture of him on the front page and all the information Wes Fager has gathered on our favorite megalomaniac.
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We need advice on this. We want to take action to protect others from Miller Newton, but we can't unless we're sure it won't cause damage.
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Could Frank S. please PM me so I know if it's OK to start dropping documents off at this place? I don't want to fuck up anyone else's efforts, but I want[/b] this guy. He's the one I hold most responsible for destroying my family and many others as well.
The government is much more interested in preserving the purity of its ideology than it is in allowing patients to get effective medicine.
-- Ethan B. Russo, neurologist at Western Montana Clinic
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I think it an excellent idea to send e-mails or notify the church that he works at about his past. Why should he have a normal life after what he has done, hasn't he learned from all the lawsuits. I mean don't these places run backround checks on their employees. Their the dumb asses who let him practice under a holy name, which he is far from! So to reiterate e-mail the church and don't worry about it he obviously doesn't care. ::deal::
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all i did was ask them if he is with them. i havent really done anything else with this. i dont see why not send them some stuff. i am willing to go to all lengths to take him down. frank s. kobc 85-90
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On 2004-03-25 10:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
i am willing to go to all lengths to take him down. frank s. kobc 85-90"
Frank, please email me kimber31@tampabay.rr.com I'd like to talk to you about this and some staff that you may know.Boundary, n. In political geography, an imaginary line between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of one from the imaginary rights of another.
-- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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All this that you are talking about in this thread has already been done.
You may want to check with Kim F. of the njbbs and kidsofnorthjersey.com.
If I remember correctly, Wes even had documented correspondance from Miller's attorneys on the matter buried somewhere at thestraights.com
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That's why I was asking. I thought I had heard something about it and I didn't want to fuck with anything someone else was doing. I'll contact Wes. Thanks.
Men seldom, or rather never for a length of time, and deliberately, rebel against anything that does not deserve rebelling against.
--Thomas Carlyle
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My error, the correspondance on Wes's site had to do with Miller being listed on the abusive priest webpage, not regarding the documentation sent to Millers church. That HAS been done though. Kim may be a better resource on what has been done directly moreso than Wes, she claimed direct involvement in the matter.
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First, I don't see how anyting anyone is doing could get screwed up by someone else giving valid info to Virgil's current associates. But I'm pretty sure the church heirarchy is well familiar with all of it. They either don't believe us or they don't see anything wrong with Virgil's avocation. Remember that it's taken 20 years to get the Catholic archdioces to concede that child rape by priests is quite inapropriate. But it couldn't hurt to try. Besides, I think ppl sort of drop a line on these ppl from time to time spontaniously, w/o any coordination. I read a newspaper interview w/ a rep from DFAF just a year or two ago where she said they get so many angry calls from former Straightlings that they have to carefully screen calls. A couple of friends of mine once dropped in on their business office asking for printed material about marijuana. They keep the door locked and, unless they like the people seeking access, they just open the door a crack and give them the brush off. Now, I ask you, what kind of way is that to run a business?
A vote for GW is a vote for America's Führer.
--Anonymous (it's best that way...)
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"Pokrov has found several web sites and articles about alleged abuses and various lawsuits against Fr. Cassian Newton and organizations he was involved in (Straight, Inc. and KIDS in Bergen, New Jersey). Now an Antiochian priest and director of Church at the Sea Foundation, a pan-Orthodox retreat center, Fr. Cassian is based in the St. Petersburg, Florida area and in 1999 applied to the State of Florida to give substance-abuse counseling to youth in Pinellas County.
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http://www.pokrov.org/Lawsuits/newton1.htm (http://www.pokrov.org/Lawsuits/newton1.htm)
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There is a Chapel of Christ at the Sea Foundation (Madeira Beach, FL) shown on this website:
http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.or ... iochna.htm (http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/resources/links/parishes/parish_antiochna.htm)
Not sure if that's helpful.
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I don't understand how this man is still allowed to work with people. He has abused so many people, courts have agreed by granting lawsuits in favor of his victims, and document after document is available on line in reference to his misdeeds. Why is he still allowed to work with people?
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"Don't get mad, get even..." ::stab::
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On 2004-03-26 07:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"There is a Chapel of Christ at the Sea Foundation (Madeira Beach, FL) shown on this website:
http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.or ... iochna.htm (http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/resources/links/parishes/parish_antiochna.htm)
Not sure if that's helpful."
yes, it was. Thank you.Time is running out. The Indians' botanical knowledge is disappearing even faster than the plants themselves.
--Richard Schultes, Harvard University educator, authority on medicinal plants
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On 2004-03-26 09:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I don't understand how this man is still allowed to work with people. He has abused so many people, courts have agreed by granting lawsuits in favor of his victims, and document after document is available on line in reference to his misdeeds. Why is he still allowed to work with people? "
People? Druggies are not fully human while they're under the influence of their disease. These druggies have been treated with kid gloves all their lives! That's what got them into the mess they're in. Newton is a hack who has NO idea how to run a program the right way. But anything is better than nothing!
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On 2004-03-26 09:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I don't understand how this man is still allowed to work with people. He has abused so many people, courts have agreed by granting lawsuits in favor of his victims, and document after document is available on line in reference to his misdeeds. Why is he still allowed to work with people? "
Because he does it quietly now. He'll set up shop somewhere until people 'in the know' find out. Run him out of whatever he's doing at the time. Then he lays low for a while, but his ego won't let him sit for long. He needs that adoration so he sets up shop somewhere else, tries to keep it quiet, but we always find out and let him employers know exactly what kind of a "man" he is. and I use that term VERY loosely.Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;
He who would search for perls must dive below.
Prolougue (from preface to
the Panther Book)
John Dryden, All for Love, Prolougue
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Ok, that does help me understand it better. Clearly, actually. Thanks.
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Has anyone found anything out.
Is it true that your friends kid was sent to Newton for communtiy service with Newton?
I'm interested to know if he has some sort of contract with the juvenile justice system.
Has anyone confirmed the "retreat house" theory?
Does anyone know what the Christ at the Sea foundation, Inc. really does?
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You can stop nosing around now, you pathetic bunch of druggies! :wave:
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i sent an email to this link http://www.antiochian.org/ (http://www.antiochian.org/) asking about newton. they responded saying he is running a retreat house . would it be crazy to send in a spy to the retreat house he is running, i personally am stronger mentally and physically now than when i was 13 in kids. it would be fun to. ::bangin::
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Hey, if you're up for it, have lots of good fun. We were just sitting around the chessboard bullshitting about raising funds to send an undercover snoop into one of these boarding schools. My kids have plenty of friends who are legal but could pass for teenagers. Not sure it would be ethical, seeing as how there's no good way to be sure they know what they're getting themselves into. But since you already know, well if you're willing then why the hell not! Please take pictures and let us all know how it goes. Need anything for the effort?
Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again.
Mark Twain
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email me Cheechofthewoods@yahoo.com
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Is anyone willing to inform the leaders of this particular church about Newton's Past? Bring on the documents! Print them in the church bulletin!
Send them to the local papers!
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Does anyone have a binder full of articles, information, etc.?
If you do I would like to talk to you about some addresses affiliated with churches that have clergy linked to Newton.
I only have a few articles from 15 years ago.
I would even pay to make copies if someone is willing to send me stuff. Then I could just send them out myself.
Email me at:
penelopewall50@hotmail.com
Thanks.
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Go to isaccorp.com they have it all.
When you get to the website use thier contact information, email, etc.,....and make contact. They'll be happy to help. It's what they do.
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Sending documents and links sounds like a fantastic idea!
Did anyone mention sending links to newspapers from New Jersey? Because that's credible and gives them a foundation to understand why we are protesting Newton.
I intend to let them know how I feel about Newton working with Floridian youth - from the point of view of a former youth that Newton "worked with."
I encourage everyone to do the same.
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The link mentioned earlier says to address all correspondence to "His Eminence" or to the Archidiocese Office at:
Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese
PO Box 5238
Englewood, NJ 07631-5238
and the contact for the webmaster at the site is:
webmaster@antiochian.org
I think it's a good idea to send an e-mail and a hard-copy to the Office / His Eminence. That way, they're sure to get the message if the webmaster doesn't deliver it.
But - is there an address for the Florida church?
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There are two florida "churches"- one is the "christ by the sea" in madeira beach which is not really a church. That is the retreat in a building that newton owned and transferred to a non profit organization. The other is what was his regular church and may still be.
The St. Nicholas Antiochian Orthodox Church
Church Address:
6445 76th Avenue, North
Pinellas Park, Florida 33781
Telephone: 727-545-3797
Church Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 41350
St. Petersburg, Florida 33743
Telephone: 727-397-4585
E-mail: stnicholasaoc@hotmail.com
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Cassian's not-for-profit is listed as:
Christ "At The" Sea Foundation
Christ "By The" Sea is not affiliated with St. Nicholas.
How recently did St. Nicholas confirm Rev. Newton's affiliation?
I also thought he was no longer affiliated with the Antiochian Orthodox Church.
Can someone please clarify any of this?
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Leigh, the rest of you, you're doing great! Keep going and keep posting, I want to know what happens next! Thanks for having the strength to for illuminating others to the threat of working with Newton!
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Thanks to all of you for keeping tabs on m newton. Keep on keeping on. Bless you all!!!!!!!
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According to the information I have been able to have verified, Newton IS still affiliated with St. Nicholas, though I'm not sure in what capacity.
Newton has his own Not-for-profit. Christ At The Sea Foundation. However, Christ At the Sea Foundation is not affiliated with St. Nicholas.
Anyone have anymore on this?
How is it that any respectable church continues an affiliation with an abusive priest with a history like that?
What kind of pressure will it take and who should that pressure be put on.
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well, i live in florida...and i pray that i dont run into "miller", that b****** !!! how can he, after everything he's done, even join a church !!! i' m sorry, but if i had it my way...he would go to hell, for all he's d :flame: ne !!!!
plmtrilvr
[ This Message was edited by: plmtrilvr on 2004-04-19 14:15 ]
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my understanding is that Miller and Ruth Ann are definetly affeliated with a church. I also believe that the members of the group who live near him [Kristi and the Mosses] are active in the church. He also still has his fingers on the pluse of all his followers who get advise from him about everything. You know, we aren't talking about kids who are fragile because they haven't been straight for long.....we are talking about adults 30's and 40's, who have been "straight" for as long as 15 or more years. I really can't understand the whole thing. I know that everyone will say " cult", but it still makes me wonder. Please, anyone who can do something to stop Newton, do so, before he becomes old and feeble, and it won't matter any more. :wave:
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God I hate that cocksucker Miller Newton!
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On 2004-04-19 15:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"my understanding is that Miller and Ruth Ann are definetly affeliated with a church. I also believe that the members of the group who live near him [Kristi and the Mosses] are active in the church.
Who are they??The overwhelming majority of people have more than the average (mean) number of legs.
-- E. Grebenik
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CHRIST AT THE SEA FOUNDATION, INC.
13280 4TH STREET, E.
SUITE 2
MADEIRA BEACH FL 33708
FEI Number 593463952
Board:
NEWTON, CASSIAN FR (Registered Agent)
SOREN, MICHAEL FR (retired priest from Boston)
NEWTON, RUTH ANN
MOSS, ROBERT
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My understanding is that Newton is supposedly working with the elderly and some married couples and is not supposed to be working with / not allowed to be working with children or teenagers.
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Fr. Cassian Newton has a connection with both Christ by the Sea Foundation and with St. Nicholas, but St. Nicholas has no connection with Christ by the Sea according to St. Nicholas Administration.
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Who are the Mosses and Kristy?
Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise that it will last; but in this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
Ben Franklin Letter to M. Leroy, 1789.
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Hi,
I'd be interested in any information you can share about your letters to the Antiochian Archdiocese and their replies.
Also, we are always wanting to add more documentation about "Fr.Cassian's" crimes. The fact that he is a priest is pretty appalling.
I am from the Pokrov.org web site.
Please email me back at greta@pokrov.org
Thanks,
Greta
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He is no priest. Never was.
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He was a priest. I dont personally kjnow if he still is as i have not followed in a while for personal reasons..
Miller, if you read this, you havent scared me with your "lawyer" letters, ya big brute, i just dont have the time to keep as close tabs on you as i used to. plus i live in NJ again, so you can rest easy from MY wrath. not to say that everyone else isnt keeping a close eye on you.
Christ AT the sea is the church. I have seen it and reported it many a time and found out he was NOT zoned to hold services there, so im assuming he changed it to a "retreat" house. Yes the mosses live near him and are most definitely affiliated. I spoke to bob myself. (and cut his hair one day...it was GREAT!!!) he is still affiliated with the antiochian orthodox church or was last thing i knew. like i said, i just dont have time to follow him anymore.
keep in touch with isaacorp. they have the means of taking care of this situation.
also, i HAVE binders full of articles on newton and his history. i HAVE sent them to the orthodox church. i got him kicked off a retreat he was going to speak at in pennsylvania years ago. :smokin: happy hunting!!
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http://isaccorp.com/documents/SAFEInves ... Report.pdf (http://isaccorp.com/documents/SAFEInvestigativeReport.pdf)