Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 03:17:00 PM
"Look at me. Look at me. Ooh ooh. Hey. Over here. Look at me. Please. Come on. Over here," said Therion and Fucktard.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 03:31:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 03:42:00 PM
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On 2004-03-08 12:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Look at me. Look at me. Ooh ooh. Hey. Over here. Look at me. Please. Come on. Over here," said Therion and Fucktard."
and just like I tell my nieces and nephews, ignore them and they'll stop.
Post by: Dr. Fucktard on March 08, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
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On 2004-03-08 12:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-03-08 12:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Look at me. Look at me. Ooh ooh. Hey. Over here. Look at me. Please. Come on. Over here," said Therion and Fucktard."
and just like I tell my nieces and nephews, ignore them and they'll stop."
and just like I tell my nieces and nephews, start a thread about them and maybe they will troll it. :wstupid:
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 04:01:00 PM
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On 2004-03-08 12:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well, that?s an alright analogy, I guess. I prefer not to call someone "program" who acts like an irrational, crazy, moron, 17 years later, though. I just see them as the idiotic losers that they are. At least the newcomers, or misbehaviors were kids, rebelling against a brainwashing cult. These dumb-asses just use this behavior as a form of retaliation and attention seeking. It?s absolutely despicable."
I agree. These people are despictable in both the way they attempt to seek and to garner attention for themselves and their wholly inane agendas.
:smokin:
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
Grow up boys!
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 04:41:00 PM
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 08, 2004, 06:45:00 PM
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Therion and Fucktard, have a seat. You're started over!
First of all, I don't see Therion posting much at all these days...
And: Why waste your time on obvious trolls like us Fucktards and Newtons? Hmmmmm? You're only making it worse. You have obvious control issues.
Not to mention that you ball-less wonders lack the guts to complain using your registered IDs. Maybe you are true anon cowards that have never had a name here, but I suspect not. I'll leave it at that...
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 06:58:00 PM
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On 2004-03-08 13:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now where could that viciousness have come from?
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Mmmmmm, could it be... SATAN!?!
Post by: Therion on March 10, 2004, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: Therion on March 10, 2004, 11:07:00 AM
Talk all you want coward...Straight turned you into pussies thats for sure..
Bet you were one of the people busting ass to confront everyone werent ya??
Love the way these evil fucking people from back then are now calling themselves survivor..
What a disgrace you should call yourself Offender...
Oh I was a Paid staff member but, but Im a survivor of abuse...Shut The Fuck Up!
You are instigators of it hiding behind the title of victim..
Haha fucking liars..Yet you call me a Bad person..
You may have "moved on" and feel all bad and stuff but..your day will come and your pitifullives will implode..
LOVE YA GROUP! ::kiss:: ::kiss::
Anon cowards and liars...Straightlings!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: RTP2003 on March 10, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
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Love the way these evil fucking people from back then are now calling themselves survivor..
What a disgrace you should call yourself Offender...
Oh I was a Paid staff member but, but Im a survivor of abuse...Shut The Fuck Up!
You are instigators of it hiding behind the title of victim..
He's right about that one
Post by: GregFL on March 10, 2004, 12:06:00 PM
I was never on staff so I am not defending my actions. I also did things at the Seed that I am not proud of, including helping catch escapees and mistreating my newcomer.
Hell, I was fucking 14 fucking years old and undergoing stress that breaks the average grown military trained man. I was trying to do what I had to do to survive, and trying to mimic the behavior of other sucessfull seedlings in order to progress my way to sanity.
So were the majority of staff members. some were fucked up people to be sure, but most were just like us.
To paint them all as abusers is way to broad a brush and unfair in the context of what we went thru.
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 12:11:00 PM
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On 2004-03-10 08:56:00, RTP2003 wrote:
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Love the way these evil fucking people from back then are now calling themselves survivor..
What a disgrace you should call yourself Offender...
Oh I was a Paid staff member but, but Im a survivor of abuse...Shut The Fuck Up!
You are instigators of it hiding behind the title of victim..
He's right about that one"
No, he's not.
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 10, 2004, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: RTP2003 on March 10, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
Maybe I'm looking at this through my Drug War Veteran's filter, but it seems to me that a POWs first and foremost duty is to escape. I don't see how a staffer fulfilled that duty-- in fact, I would compare them to the "kapos" or Jews in Nazi concentration camps that would act as henchmen for the Executive Sta-- I mean, SS.
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on March 10, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 10, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
I guess what I'm saying is that I see very good points on both sides of this issue. There are staff that I will NEVER forgive no matter WHAT they say or do and there are others that I feel completely sorry for.
Those who control the past, control the future; and those who control the present, control the past.
--George Orwell
Post by: RTP2003 on March 10, 2004, 12:48:00 PM
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 10, 2004, 01:02:00 PM
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Do you guys remember those obnoxious newcomers that would be disruptive, rude and annoying just to get attention from other people? These newcomers would act like little babies, and as soon as the spotlight was pointed on these newcomers, they would say whatever they could in order to get just a little bit of attention.
I can't wait to get your sorry ass into my new rehab. :skull:
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 01:08:00 PM
Post by: GregFL on March 10, 2004, 01:42:00 PM
In any event, I would never have gone on staff.
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 10, 2004, 01:54:00 PM
What is this new loyalty? It is, above all, conformity. It is the uncritical and unquestioning acceptance of America as it is. It rejects inquiry into the race question or socialized medicine or public housing, regards as heinous any challenge to what is called the system of private enterprise, identifying that system with Americanism. It abandons evolution, repudiates the once popular concept of progress, and regards America as a finished product, perfect and complete. The concept of loyalty as conformity is a false one. It is narrow and restrictive, denies freedom of thought and conscience... What do men know of loyalty who make a mockery of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights?
Henry Steele Commager, 1947
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
:smile:
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
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On 2004-03-10 11:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This is what is so great about survivors speaking out, like Greg and Cayohueso. Your intelligence and compassion shines through, sending a message of hope and inspiring others. I hate what these places did to the unfortunate kids who got swept up in the crazed anti-drug (anti-youth) movement that began nearly 3 decades ago. Your collective voice is a powerful one that needs to be heard in every living room across America, along with former staff members like Ray Bradbury who is so courageously and relentlessly carrying the banner of justice for all, in full view of the public, not behind closed doors.
:smile: "
Sorry, I forgot to also acknowledge the fine work of Wes Fager, a brilliant and very decent man, who along with Ginger, has kept the lights on for a long, long time, in support of all survivors and their right to be heard.
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 10, 2004, 02:47:00 PM
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin
Post by: Antigen on March 10, 2004, 03:12:00 PM
What are politicians going to tell people when the Constitution is gone and we still have a drug problem?
--William Simpson
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 03:23:00 PM
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On 2004-03-10 12:12:00, Antigen wrote:
"I dunno. I'll have to ask Phil.What are politicians going to tell people when the Constitution is gone and we still have a drug problem?
--William Simpson
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Thanks, Ginger. Let us know what Phil says.
::nod::
Post by: GregFL on March 10, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
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Sorry, I forgot to also acknowledge the fine work of Wes Fager, a brilliant and very decent man, who along with Ginger, has kept the lights on for a long, long time, in support of all survivors and their right to be heard. "
Thanks for the kind words, and the contributions to this movement by Ginger and Wes cannot be understated. They are both responsible, along with Kathy Martin, Ken, Kim, and a handfull of others, of kicking this thing off. The hours of dedication by Ginger and Wes are especially something to be thankfull for. Ginger's work at creating a forum and the intial websites, along with Wes' reseach are in fact why so many people today know about the abuses of the Seed TC spinoffs in this country.
Now, if you haven't seen it and you really want a laugh,you need to see Wes and I out together at a bar or Talking to women in general. I even make myself laugh just thinking about it.
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 12:02:00 AM
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On 2004-03-10 12:28:00, GregFL wrote:
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Sorry, I forgot to also acknowledge the fine work of Wes Fager, a brilliant and very decent man, who along with Ginger, has kept the lights on for a long, long time, in support of all survivors and their right to be heard. "
Thanks for the kind words, and the contributions to this movement by Ginger and Wes cannot be understated. They are both responsible, along with Kathy Martin, Ken, Kim, and a handfull of others, of kicking this thing off. The hours of dedication by Ginger and Wes are especially something to be thankfull for. Ginger's work at creating a forum and the intial websites, along with Wes' reseach are in fact why so many people today know about the abuses of the Seed TC spinoffs in this country.
Now, if you haven't seen it and you really want a laugh,you need to see Wes and I out together at a bar or Talking to women in general. I even make myself laugh just thinking about it.
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::bigsmilebounce:: ::cheers:: ::heart:: ::kiss:: ::nod::
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2004, 12:12:00 AM
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On 2004-03-10 11:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Isn't it time someone started a Fornits defense fund to help offset the costs of Ginger's defense against the lawsuit brought by PURE? Can donations be filtered through Elberg's firm? How have other organizations handled setting up a legal defense fund? Anybody have any other suggestions or ideas? Pro-Bono or not, I'm sure a few extra dollars would be put to good use."
Ginger .... any word from Phil yet?
:smile:
Post by: animals all of us on March 13, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
Let the lawsuits come and go.
Let the God, Therion, rant and the fucktard Dr. Fucktard point out the obviousness in our futilities. Jesus, I need a sense of humor and abnormality when our world believes that up to killing children is the way to solve old age and drug problems.
I doubt that those who are being sued, I doubt those who deny they are on Melvin Sembler's and DFAFs payroll, will shutup either long before there goals are met.
You need need need need humans who have a sense of humor. What you've been paying attention to is people who are desperately trying to get themselves into the next generation's history books so that their pictures will always exist in infamy and deceit.
Now let someone else speak for once. Your god and your fantasy does not exist, he/she has been disproven, defamed, raped, beaten, and spent until your parents cry time and time again. Let humor speak once more and let it speak out loud and let it meet with obnoxiousness obnoxiously about this swayed world. Let laughter ring in your sour heart and touch the deepest part of your disease and misunderstanding. See yourself as those you do not want to be like, and laugh a true laugh that you did pride yourself you are too 'good' to be where you are right now. That IS the best joke of all, and the greatest laughter. John Alexander.
Post by: animals all of us on March 13, 2004, 08:19:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2004, 10:08:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on March 14, 2004, 09:36:00 AM
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Ginger .... any word from Phil yet?
Don't really need it. But thanks! It's the thought that counts.
What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
-- Sigmund Freud
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2005, 11:33:00 PM