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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 09:33:00 AM

Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
Stumbled on to this web site...what the hell its sounds like another Straight to me, Im sure somebody here knows all about it.

http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/index.html (http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/index.html)
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 09:36:00 AM
A great place to send your druggie kid!
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 05, 2004, 09:53:00 AM
Check out their history
http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/History.html (http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/History.html)


There's a forum here for KHK.

If you think about why you hate me, you might find that it's not me.
--Antigen

Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: GregFL on March 05, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
THE SEED Lives on.

Fucking Art Fucking Barker.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
Fucking incredible that places like this still exisit, does anyone know if DFAF has anything to do with it or MEL and BETTY ?
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: GregFL on March 05, 2004, 09:56:00 AM
No they don't. But it all came from the Seed my man.

Helen Peterman worked at the seed, then at straight, then branched off to her on program LIFE, and this is an offshoot of life.

In other words, it is Art Barker's Fault.

The whole damn thing is.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 09:59:00 AM
Shit...I read their treatment philosiphy 5 phases etc oldcomers......what the fuck and the treatment cost to rip the sole and self being from your kid for only 22000.00 for out of towners. Unbelieveable
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 05, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
I just went to the KHK site.  I hadn't really looked it over in detail before.  Damn, it sure does bring back nightmares.  When you go to their treatment philosophy and history it'll make anyone who was in Straigth with Newton cringe.  In their history they brag about a 'psychologist' that started a program in FL that was SO SUCCESSFUL that he felt the need to bring it to Ohio.  Bet all the teens in Ohio are grateful! :roll: What an asshole.  It still amazes me the legacy he has left.

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another; shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement
Thomas Jefferson

Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on March 05, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
It's a shame that you druggies are so ungrateful. However, I wanted to let you all know that I will be opening a rehab for ADULTS like you, who are in need of some attitude adjustment and drug treatment. Rest assured that we WILL find a way to get as many of you committed as soon we can!

You need help,
Virgil
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
Yes while I was reading it , I got sick to my stomach and pissed off beyond belief, I made a few comments under my breath and I think ahlf of the office heard me.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 05, 2004, 10:34:00 AM
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On 2004-03-05 07:30:00, Dr. Miller Newton wrote:

"It's a shame that you druggies are so ungrateful. However, I wanted to let you all know that I will be opening a rehab for ADULTS like you, who are in need of some attitude adjustment and drug treatment. Rest assured that we WILL find a way to get as many of you committed as soon we can!



You need help,

Virgil"


Bring it on Virge.  I got your attitude adjustment right heeeeeeeere.

There are not enough jails, not enough policemen, not enough courts to enforce a law not supported by the people.
-- HUBERT H. HUMPHREY, speech (1965)

Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on March 05, 2004, 10:34:00 AM
And you'll be one of the first to go, patriot! We'll use your co-workers to testify on our behalf, if we can. We're tracing your IP right now..  :scared:
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Miller Newton on March 05, 2004, 10:35:00 AM
Keep talking, Cayo. WE'll get you yet!  :lol:
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 10:37:00 AM
hey Newt I am far too much of a asset to my company to be rated out ....Please also accept this as my last reply to you....keep rambling I can't hear you
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Cayo Hueso on March 05, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
oooooooooo, I'm shakin' now.  God, grant me the Serenity to accept that Virgil is an ass, the courage to kick it, and the wisdom to go after Ruthie too.  

The sadist cannot stand the separation of the public and the private; nor can he grant to others the mystery of their personality, the validity of their inner self...in order for him to feel his maximum power, he wants the world to be peopled with concrete manipulatable objects...
-- ERNEST BECKER, The Structure of Evil, 1968.



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early 80s

[ This Message was edited by: cayohueso on 2004-03-05 07:39 ]
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
Twisting your program won't help you any, cayohueso.  You need to get honest with yourself and change your attitude.  The one you have certainly doesn't help you feel and act the way you need.  Perhaps a stay in the new all-ages Straight will do you some good....
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2004, 11:28:00 AM
Perhaps pulling your head out of Semblers' ass will do YOU some good.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
And I'll say it again:  Sembler is the King. God bless that fat kike!
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2004, 11:40:00 AM
didn't you read the other thread?  There IS no God. No one to bless you and no one to save you from the wrath of the survivors.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr. Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
It must be frustrating to be so controlled by your druggie will that you must lash out in anger at any who try to get you some help.  I pity you poor druggies, that's why I'm opening up my new, improved, all-ages Straight.  There's still hope for you , Anon.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: wesfager on March 05, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
Check out:

http://thestraights.com/the-straights/t ... hts-fc.htm (http://thestraights.com/the-straights/thestraights-fc.htm)

George Ross at:

http://thestraights.com/theprogram/theclinicians.htm (http://thestraights.com/theprogram/theclinicians.htm)

kids at:

http://www.thestraights.com/financial/s ... g-veil.htm (http://www.thestraights.com/financial/st-fdn-piercing-veil.htm)

Wes
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
GOD BLESS WES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: thepatriot on March 05, 2004, 12:06:00 PM
Wes you are the man :nworthy:
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Don Smith on March 05, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
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On 2004-03-05 06:33:00, thepatriot wrote:

"Stumbled on to this web site...what the hell its sounds like another Straight to me, Im sure somebody here knows all about it.



http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/index.html (http://www.kidshelpingkids.com/index.html)"


I don't know if anyone else said it or not. Frankly I didn't feel like reading through three pages of Posts.  But KHK is now is the SAME building that Cincinnati Straight occupied.

Don
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
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hey Newt I am far too much of a asset to my company to be rated out ....Please also accept this as my last reply to you....keep rambling I can't hear you

If you've got eyes, then you're gonna listen.  :lol:

Turns out we won't be needing any help from them anyway. We've logged your IP, contacted your ISP there with the abuse claim (don't pretend that you don't know what I'm referring to) and we're gonna find you.

Look forward to seeing your ass back in GROUP!

Remember, it's I feel_____about_____because____.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 01:22:00 PM
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Wes you are the man

The complaints may be endemic to this kind of program and this type of troubled population. Most of the kids there have a pathology of lying and blaming.  :cry2:

I question the honesty of the teen-agers and parents making these allegations.
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2004, 01:37:00 PM
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On 2004-03-05 10:22:00, Dr Fucktard wrote:

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Wes you are the man

The complaints may be endemic to this kind of program and this type of troubled population. Most of the kids there have a pathology of lying and blaming.  :cry2:



I question the honesty of the teen-agers and parents making these allegations."


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Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 05, 2004, 05:03:00 PM
Dr Fucktard.
GO FUCK YOURSELF! YOU TINY TINY LITTLE DICKED ASSHOLE. YOU ARE A TWISTED AND SICK JACKASS WHO NEEDS TO GET A LIFE.
I AM SICK OF YOU, YOU BLATANT SCUMBAG!
I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY A CAR AND ROT IN HELL. I HOPE ONE DAY I MEET YOU SO THAT I CAN KICK YOU IN YOUR TINY LITTLE BALLS AND WATCH YOU CHOKE ON THEM. YOU ARE A WASTE. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT THE SCUM ON MY CATS ASS AFTER TAKING A SHIT. YOU ARE AN ABORTION.
FUCK OFF DR. RETARD
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 05, 2004, 10:18:00 PM
So I'm getting the feeling that you're a little pissed off...  :rofl:
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Dr Fucktard on March 07, 2004, 11:09:00 PM
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GO FUCK YOURSELF! YOU TINY TINY LITTLE DICKED ASSHOLE.
Typical druggie behavior. Insulting someone's manhood instead of dealing with the real issues!

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YOU ARE A TWISTED AND SICK JACKASS WHO NEEDS TO GET A LIFE.
My life's fine. YOU need to think about why my posts upset you enough to respond in such a hostile manner. Something I said must have struck a nerve somewhere in that feeble druggie brain of yours.  :rofl:

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I AM SICK OF YOU, YOU BLATANT SCUMBAG
It sounds to me like you're sick of yourself.  :idea: You need to apply your Serenity Prayer and move on.

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I HOPE ONE DAY I MEET YOU SO THAT I CAN KICK YOU IN YOUR TINY LITTLE BALLS AND WATCH YOU CHOKE ON THEM.

My, my...quite an angry little bitch you are. I doubt you'll ever get that chance. Pity...  :cry2:
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Therion on March 09, 2004, 03:06:00 AM
KHK is just like Straight..They have a diff name
and most likely diffrent people running the joint..

I have always wondered what makes these programs take off the way they do..
 I mean I think part of it is the parents are so "frustrated" and "offended" with their Teens behavior....That mabey they think a little punishments in order...

Parents...especially host parents cannot claim total innocence or ignorance..

I seem to remember the host parents getting the run down at "what happened at the bldg today" (minus names of course..well I remember kids telling what happened to THEM that day...and I know they had to have seen some black eyes...bruises...busted lips...I know I did...STraight Dallas was rockin that year..Jesus Ill never forget the sounds of chairs scraping...and muffled screams)

They werent that dumb...I think they were pissed and wanted to know their child was getting the shit knocked out of them daily...

_________________
I'm numb and unfeeling
So I just burn and stare at the ceiling
I'm here, but so far away
I see your mouth movin' but can't hear what you say
And I don't think I give a fuck anyway

[ This Message was edited by: Therion on 2004-03-09 00:23 ]
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
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On 2004-03-09 00:06:00, Therion wrote:

"KHK is just like Straight..They have a diff name

and most likely diffrent people running the joint..



I have always wondered what makes these programs take off the way they do..

 I mean I think part of it is the parents are so "frustrated" and "offended" with their Teens behavior....That mabey they think a little punishments in order...



Parents...especially host parents cannot claim total innocence or ignorance..



I seem to remember the host parents getting the run down at "what happened at the bldg today" (minus names of course..well I remember kids telling what happened to THEM that day...and I know they had to have seen some black eyes...bruises...busted lips...I know I did...STraight Dallas was rockin that year..Jesus Ill never forget the sounds of chairs scraping...and muffled screams)



They werent that dumb...I think they were pissed and wanted to know their child was getting the shit knocked out of them daily...



_________________

I'm numb and unfeeling

So I just burn and stare at the ceiling

I'm here, but so far away

I see your mouth movin' but can't hear what you say

And I don't think I give a fuck anyway

[ This Message was edited by: Therion on 2004-03-09 00:23 ]"
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
what was the purpose in copying his post, I mean it was right there already for everyone to read.  all you did was quote it.  was there something you wanted to say?
Title: Kids Helping Kids
Post by: RTP2003 on March 09, 2004, 02:53:00 PM
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I have always wondered what makes these programs take off the way they do..

 I mean I think part of it is the parents are so "frustrated" and "offended" with their Teens behavior....That mabey they think a little punishments in order...



Parents...especially host parents cannot claim total innocence or ignorance..



I seem to remember the host parents getting the run down at "what happened at the bldg today" (minus names of course..well I remember kids telling what happened to THEM that day...and I know they had to have seen some black eyes...bruises...busted lips...
They werent that dumb...I think they were pissed and wanted to know their child was getting the shit knocked out of them daily...




I think you're right about that.  I know foster parents heard about the abuse and looked the other way if not approved of it and said so.  I saw it happen over and over.  It was the norm.  Parents who thought it went too far were the exception, and many times they were afraid to mention it to anybody for fears of being confronted, having their kid set back or terminated (which of course is a sentence of death by drugs) or maybe even thought that it was an isolated incident and to make waves would shut down what they  thought was an otherwise good program.

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[ This Message was edited by: RTP2003 on 2004-03-09 11:53 ]