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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 15, 2002, 08:58:00 PM
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Jeffs address is 121 Rolling Hills Drive Standish ME.
Phone # is 207 892 2456
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why the hell is someone giving out jeff's personal address and phone number that's just not right. does he even know about this?
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someone asked for it. its available to anyone at the white pages msn. its already public
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Well if its public why couldnt they find it. I agree with Pete on this one this is going just a bit too far. If there are people who want to get into contact with these staff members Iam sure there are better ways.
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Disagree...Kruglick needs to be exposed. The overriding moral principle is in place....okay--so we can't have Nuremburg trials because we might expose the Nazis's??? Give me a break---expose the bastrads!
Dan
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hmmm i m glad i didnt have that info 20 years ago when i realized how unsane i was after leavin elan....if it was me ,, i would still feel guilt if someone acted on info i posted,,,,,,,what was your point?
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Yea Dan what is the point, this is just as crazy as what went on at elan. If its a trial you want then go about it the right way after all we do live in a country where the courts judge if ones guilty or not. Not message boards and posting address that could end up hurting someone! Thats just wrong.
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On 2002-06-21 03:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
Yea Dan what is the point, this is just as crazy as what went on at elan. If its a trial you want then go about it the right way after all we do live in a country where the courts judge if ones guilty or not. Not message boards and posting address that could end up hurting someone! Thats just wrong.
Public info is public info. And the IVth estate of government plays an important role in our justice system. That's why freedom of speech is the very first item in the Bill of Rights. I would recomend to people who go around tormenting innocent kids to have the good sense to get unlisted numbers. But, aparently, this guy didn't have the good sense.
That said, I sincerely hope that no one will act on any violent impulse toward this guy. Not for his sake, mind you. But because you probably couldn't give him anywhere near what he deserves and would likely land up in the very cage where he belongs. That would be tragic. We've all had enough tragedy. What we need is justice.
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While I agree public is public these address have been post here where we all know the hate runs deep its a game to some but there might be some out there who take it to far God forbid anything ever did happen... What ever you might think about our justice system dosnt matter we live here and there are laws and steps that need to be taken.
I just find posting addresses and phone numbers pointless and looking for trouble.
If he is listed then he must feel ok with who he is (not to say elan was ok) Seems to me if someone disagrees on this site they get blasted! Freedom of speech? IS that what you call it?
Look I was at elan lived it for almost two years and Iam not saying go after them isnt wrong! I how ever feel posting of this sort are vendictive and wrong.
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I think I'm gonna go to Jeff"s house and beat him down into a bloody pulp.Then I'll make him wear a sign inked in his own blood.
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The sadist cannot stand the separation of the public and the private; nor can he grant to others the mystery of their personality, the validity of their inner self...in order for him to feel his maximum power, he wants the world to be peopled with concrete manipulatable objects...
-- ERNEST BECKER, The Structure of Evil, 1968.
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NOW thats creative Dan using quotes like the strights you really need a place to fit in. But Dan I dont think its here or at elan YOUR NOT A SURVIVOR! YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ELAN OR ANY PLACE EVEN CLOSE! SO give it up the acts over I hope that everyones seeing the truth...
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On 2002-06-21 14:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
While I agree public is public these address have been post here where we all know the hate runs deep its a game to some but there might be some out there who take it to far God forbid anything ever did happen... What ever you might think about our justice system dosnt matter we live here and there are laws and steps that need to be taken.
I just find posting addresses and phone numbers pointless and looking for trouble.
If he is listed then he must feel ok with who he is (not to say elan was ok) Seems to me if someone disagrees on this site they get blasted! Freedom of speech? IS that what you call it?
Look I was at elan lived it for almost two years and Iam not saying go after them isnt wrong! I how ever feel posting of this sort are vendictive and wrong.
Everyone is equally entitled to say whatever they want to and equally entitled to any response that might elicit. Opposing views don't limit your freedom of speech. If I were the least bit inclined to stifle your speach, there's a delete key on my keyboard and I know how to use it. I rarely ever do, only in cases of criminal activity like posting of kiddie porn, public posting of private info and wonton commercial advertising.
Go ahead and rage against the machine. But public posting of public info is not criminal and doesn't make the poster responsible for the actions of another. You're free to disagree with it and try to pursued others to your way of thinking. But calling opposing views infringement of free speech isn't going to wash with me. I know the difference (lived it, remember?)
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Fat pugy little man Jeffery is.little fuckin pussy has to yell at defenseless teenagers.Come yell at me now Jeffery,I'LL PUT YOUR LITTLE PUGY FAT ASS IN THE HOSPITAL SO QUICK IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN.
Maybe I'll visit you soon, after all I will be in the Maine area real soon.
ELAN IS ABOUT TO BE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN IN A VERY VERY BURNING WAY.
SEE YA SOON ASSHOLES!!!!!
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I love to know what Jeffery Gottliebs cholestrol level is?
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Jeff Gottlieb use to enjoy scratching his ass all the time.Every time I'd see Jeff he would be digging at his asshole intensly,I dont know whether or not he had a bad case of hemorroids or not but he definatly like to fondle his buttocks.
I could just imagine what his tighty whitety's looked like at the end of each day.He most likely had tractor trailor type skid marks on them.
Which reminds me, everytime I was near Jeff he had the smell of butt around him.Probably smeared lots of shit on his underwear from excessive pickings.
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Funning you mention that about jeffe picking at his ass because I once had a most unusual run in with him.It was 2pm on a Tuesday and the house was in gruops, I was on head counts and was making a run.I heard yelling going on upstairs in house dorms so I went up to investigate.
It was Jefferys voice arguing in dorm E I slowly and quietly asscended uptairs do see what was goinf on.Jeffery was in their all by his lonesome having a psychotic episode.He was holding a pair of under wear in his hands yelling at it.
It was his own pair and they were completely covered with shit.Jeff was upset that his underwear turned shitty because he was picking his asshole.He was giving his underwear a verbal reprimand.I couldnt beleive my eye's less alone my ears.I mean the man was digging at his ass and must of got shit smeared unto his underwear and was basically blaming his underwear for what happened.
I slowly and quietly went back down stairs to continue my run.About 2 minutes later Jeffery came down stairs and I asked him if he could sign the head coount sheet.At this point he was all calm and cool and acted like as if nothing happened.As Jeffery singed the head count sheet he handed the clip board back to me and walked towards the dining room.I noticed his underwear was sticking out of his back side and had some stains on it.I shock my head and walked into the living room and attended group.
I think Jeffery was psychotic in way, I mean he can be sitting with you and talking and having a great conversation and the next thing he is screaming, ylling, cursing and throwing a fit.I dont know about this guy.
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only thing i can say good about gottlieb is he prolly had the only dog that wasnt getting fucked :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Jeffery picked at his ass because he was bite by a dog many years back.Some dog atacted him and actually tore off a portion of his buttocks and it gets discomforting for him every so often.
The doctors really couldnt do much for him so I think what happens is if he doesn't thourghly wipe his ass his underwear gets sucked in near his asshole and gets stuck.He really cant help it.He is not being perverted or anything.
Jeffery told me this story when was a resident there. ::bangin::
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I heard he was attacked by a bear and the bear bit him in the ass.I always got a kick out of seeing Jeffery scream and yell and blow up.He face turned so red and viens pope out of it.I was waiting too see if he would have a heart attack in front of the house.
Man he use to go insane during GM'S, he was like in his mid 50's when I was there.I wonder if he still screams and goes off like that today?
If he still does he will suffer from a heart attack,its just not healthy to be all stressed out like that, especially at his age.
:flame: <----Gottlieb at a GM
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Jeffery always had this odd face expression when someone read the elan philosophy.It was like a mother reading a bed time story to her child.It would calm him down
He would blink his eyes excessively and really get into the philosophy being read.Almost like as if it were some sort of magic spell to calm him down.
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Jeff was two faced.THis is what happens to someone who does not take their thorzine on a regular basis,Jeffery is a prime example of it.
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Jeff was just angry all the time because he was missing a part of his buttocks.So why not take it out on defenseless teenagers, yeah that will help....
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When we use to have to compete with other houses in spotrs, gottlieb would also insist that someone bring a boom box and play his tape.And what were Jeff's favorite out played , hope i never hear them again songs? Queen, we are the champions and we will rock you.
The man would listen to it everyday at everytime it seemed like.One time after the house went to bed I saw Jefferey sitting all alone in the Coordinators office listening to both the songs and coing this head movement thingy as if he was getting into the groove.
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Here is a list of Gottliebs favorite phrases.
Put him in a chair in the corner."Heavy Boston accent"
General meeting, General Meeting!!! "Face turns red"
Expeditor "refering to expeditor on staff zone"
You're bringing the house down "Said with Boston accent and spit flying"
You reacted to my Coordinators "Again, heavy Boston accent present"
If anyone has any feelings, get em off "More Boston accent pronounced"
You walk around their house shuckin' and jivin'
3 hots and a cot
Knock!!!!
Even though I havent seen or heard this man in many years I'm sure if I were to walk into the house I would here him using the same catch phrases.what would be funny is to visit Elan when a GM is in process and to walk right in the dining room and get my feelings off for Jeff.
I'm sure Jeffery would immediatly put on his puppy eyes face.I hated that son of a bitch,he was like Jekel and Hyde.He would have puppy eyes then turn into a mad tomatoe, spit flying everywhere.One of these days he will drop dead in the middle of a GM, I can picture it happening.
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he did the same in 96-99, being in maine for EVER, how did ha still talk like a bostonian, after 100 years in maine you think it would go away.
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Gottlieb looks like a mad humpty dumpty.For the little fat man fell off a wall and turned into a screaming vein poping over weight teenager abuser.Gottlieb's fate is one day he will drop dead during a general meeting from his screaming.You can only scream for so long Jeffery, you will drop dead and I think it will be within this decade.
Just think Jeff you can push daisy's up with Joe,You corrupt son of a bitch.
JEFFERY CURRUPTLIEB
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Jeff always use to stare at Clare's ass during GM's.Everytime there was a GM and Clare was running it with Jeff, Jeff would always have his eyes looking at Clares behind.It was obvious that he had eye's for her.Maybe that would explain times he would leave the GM's for 10 minutes, he most likely went to the bathroom to rub one out.
There is no proof or knowledge that Jeff had sexual realtions with Clare, but Clare did have sexual relations with a handful of elan staff.I think Jeff was to parnoid to fuck her in fear that he may catch something and bring it home to his wife.
Can you imagine Gottlieb fucking his wife? I wonder if his face turns all red and he screams when he cums in his wife's face?
Jeff Gottlieb looked like a wine barrel with a face.His body had identicle semetrics to that of a wine barrel.Maybe he was a wine barrel, who knows....
I used to call Jeff Gottlieb "Jeff Corruptlieb", this mother fucker was so corrupt and totally abused his powers at Elan.He loved disciplining students that fucked up and couldn't wait for a student to fuck up.
One time there was this student his last name was Spinler "Forgot his first name" He smacked Jeffery in the face after Gottlieb gave him an injust V/R.Gottlieb had him go in the ring and the student had to box 7 students without any breaks in between the fights.That day showed Gottliebs true colors,"FUCKIN COWARD" poor fat little Jeffery Gottlieb got assualted by a teenager and was offended on top of getting fucked up and had to have 7 people beat the kid up.
I'm sure if anyone that knew Jeff ran into him on the streets and confronted him would make Jeff so scared he most likely would roll off away from them.Thats right he would roll, fat little wine barrel of a man........
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I let the air out of Jeff's tire on his car about 2 dozen times over a 10 month period.It was the funniest thing, there were so many house meetings about it and they could never figure out how it was happening.Of coarse elan didnt suspect anything until about after the 6th time it happened.
Jeff would park it for awhile in front of the house to keep a close eye on it then after awhile he didnt think it would happen again and I struck again.Did that shit for 10 months.
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I betcha Jeff's face use to turn very red everytime he found his tire flat.It doesn't take very much to set that man off into a rage.Taht will be the death of him, if we could only talk to present day elan students.We can tell them how to kill Jeff.
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The real reason why Jeffery was such a bitter fellow is because he like many of the other staff that went through elan are getting their revenge back.The only reason they work there is because they were abused when they went to elan and it makes them feel better to yell back and powerbase all over the students.
They are the ones that never grew up.None of these assholes are licensed to work with kids.They never received a degree in psychology.They are all wanna be psychiatrists.
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Jeff was asked once during an amazing boring seminar. where they were (directors) telling us that the program was so great how you had to put your whole life and soul into it ,the basic indoctination yada yada crap .
Well old boy Jeffery was asked what by another resident Gerry G. maybe ,and after big elan pep rally speil .This man asked "jeffery what would you be doing if you weren't doing this ?"(unmercifully abusing people or getting other people to do the abusing for him, of course this was not said it is a fact )...and Jeffery paused ,pondered ..said thats a good question?
Everyone was just straining to hear what this answer was going to be ?
the tension was was just thick in the air .
Then Jeffery opened his mouth and said I would be a shoe salesman .I personally had to bit my lip to keep from laughing and getting in trouble ...A freaking shoe salesman .... That is probably the only real work that he is qualified to do . I mean most places that treat children are required to have some schooling Jeff has none .
Only in the state of Maine can a person with the High appriations to be a shoe salesman also run an abusive theraputic center.
Imagine buying shoes from this freak .Oh they hurt my feet,and Jeffery saying oh thats good for you .He probably would suck as a Shoe salesman and I certainly not would buy any shoes from this
child abuser .Therfore why do parents send their kids to this hell hole .
It is because they are duped into doing this by elan and its henchmen .And old boy Jeffery , the shoe salesman aspiring, is one of those henchmen
just a little light
Matt
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Some how I got bumped off ,I don't need no stinkin bag .I wrote the above (previous )reply
dang computers
Matt
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Imagine buying shoes from this freak .Oh they hurt my feet,and Jeffery saying oh thats good for you .
LMAO!!
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yea i can also see Jeffery pressure one into buying the pair of shoes" You either buy these shoes or sit in a chair in the corner". "Chief expeditor, he refuses to buy shoes from me, put him in the corner".
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matt that was funny Im from the 70s and needed a lol ty
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lol so good so funny
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::rocker:: thats some funny shit matt
SyN
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Ofcoarse we all know Jeff use to suck alot of dick when he was in jail, thats why he sounded like a dying Hiena when he got mad.Swallowed one too many loads in jail, Jeff was someones bitch in jail.Ever notice how he knew alot of jail terms when he announced them in GM's?He would use jail slangs all the time.
Jwff loved using prison catch phrases.....
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I can just visualize Jeffery's life in when he was in jail.Getting it up the ass day in and day out.Thats when it all started when his face turns red.He got dicks shoved so hard up his ass his face turned red.Everytime he yells in a GM and his face turns red is because he suffers from all those dicks analy penetrating him.
Someone should put you in a chair in the corner Jeffery, you corrupt little fat peice of shit.
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Jeffery reminds me of the Penguin from Batman, they both were short little round men.Jeffery Gottlieb is a two faced son-of-a-bitch.This little fat mother-fucker lives to yell and scold defenseless teenagers.
Telol you one thing, Elan definately has a good little scam going on up there.All they have to do is fuck with the current residents and tack on an extra month to their sentences and bam, thats an extra $$$$ in their pockets.
Gottlieb is the master of squeezing more $$$$ out of the students parents.
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LOL thats right on the money! Pants pulled past his navel waddling like a fat lil penguine.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SyN
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I remember that shit.Gottlieb would wear his pants high past his naval, lol.gottlieb looked like he swallowed a 50 gallon drum during my time.From what I have read he lost some weight over the years, probably burnt the calories off from all that yelling he does.
Yea Gottlieb was one 2 faced son-of-a-bitch.I can still visualize him now, sitting back blinking his eyes real fast chewing the fat with someone, and BAM, 2 minutes later he is screaming and yelling and turning into a vein poping maniac.
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he was a psycho. he would bring shit up and flip out over shit that happend a year prior. He just blanked out all the time. i bet time just didnt exist for him. He would get days confused all the time. he was seriously senile. He was fukn hillarious though gettin all red and squeeling at people, nazi i wish you could post a recoring of your impression of him, that shit is fukn funny.
SyN
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There are message boards out there that have recording voice options.I need to practice some more n his voice, I used to do it even better back then.
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once you do let me know where it is so i can save it
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Jeffery wears depends under garment protection, thats why he wore his pants so high up.The man had leaky plumbing.Why wonder he was always pissed off and freaking out, I would too knowing that my plumbing was leaking all over the place.
Jeff Gottlieb did always have a little strange foul smell come from him when he walked by you.It was his diapers that he wore, they were filled with shit and piss.
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On time when Jeffery ran an encounter group in the living room his chair was moist on the seat after siting there for awhile.It seemed to carry an aroma of urine and a shot down was delegated to clean it.
After discovering the chair was wet from jeffery sitting on it, I noticed that Jeff had wet himself and his depends didnt do such a great job of retaining the liquid.
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like a rabbid dog this man would attack for no reason, and like a rabbid dog he constantly shit himself too.
SyN
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When Ken went up to Elan back in 2000 to visit th place, Jeff had a pooping episode in his pants and ken loaned him a pair of his underwear.What a nice guy Ken is.I wonder is Jeffery ever mailed Ken those underpants back yet?
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Hey...
Give Ken a break! I hear he has been feeling kinda grey lately. :lol:
Paul St. John
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Rumor had it that Ken and Jeffery had a secret love affair together.
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Jeffery Gottlieb use to suck assholes before he would come to work.he was convinced that sucking on an asshole before work each day would help him perform better at work.
Well as we all witnessed, Jeffery's performance at work was quite unacceptable.He had no control over himself both mentally and physically.
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Hey who posted my personal information????
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Well put!
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I like to yell at defenseless teenagers because I am a corupt mother fucker.I also enjoy blowing Marty Krudick because I am a flaming homo.
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Oh my God! That was too funny.
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I live my life to yell at little kids.When I get mad my face turns into a mean looking tomatoe and viens pop out of my face and saliva shoots from my mouth.
some people say I sound like a bitch when I scream, well I Sound like that because when I was in jail I use to get it up the ass so much and so hard my vocal cords changed.
I make it a habit to yell at teenagers everyday when I'm at Elan.If there is no legitimate reason to yell at some teenager I will corruptly make some reason up and go off the wall on them for no apparent reason.
I live for dishing out punishmant and putting signs around teenagers necks.
Jeffery Gottdick is my name, and general meetings are my game.....
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Sometimes when I am yelling at those kids I scream so hard I shit myself.That is what happened one time when i was running a GM.I was so mad at the kid I made him wear my shit stained underpants on his head for 4 days.
Marty got very upset about it because he wanted those underpants with my shit on it for his own personal use.I eventially made it up to Marty by shitting in another pair of underpants and letting Marty eat it.
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Jeffery Gottlieb had major bladder problems when he went off the wall at GM'S.He could see his pants become more and more moist as the yelling tone increased.One time Jeffery yelled so much at at 3 house general meeting he lokked like he fell in the lake after the GM ended.
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Jeffery Gottlieb wears depend diapers because he is always shitting himself throughout the day.The more he yells and freaks out , the more his asshole opens up and lets out.
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I caught jeff masterbating in the kitchen to a picture of Clare.
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I just called Elan and finally spoke to Jeff, I asked him why he screamed like a little bitch "General Meeting" when someone insulted him?
jeff's response, "who is this"
my response, " who is this doesnt matter"
Jeff's response" why are you calling me and what do you want"
my response" I want to know why you screamed like a little bitch and use the general meeting as a weapon against teenagers"
jeff's response, " i have nothing to say to you about that"
click, he hangs up.
I call back, " Hello elan school can I help you",
"Yes i would like to speak to Jeffery corruptlieb"
Elan operator response. You mean Jeffery gottlieb?"
me response, "yes he goes by that name aslo"
Elan" He is in a meeting right now can I take a message?"
my response, "wow I just got of the phone with him 30 seconds before speaking to you. he called a general meeting that fast?, is he yelling at defenseless teenagers once again?"
Ealn "Sir, this is a thearupic school and we help out troubled kids that need guidence, if you would like to leave a message for jeffery I would gladly pass it on to him"
my response "yeah tell Jeffery I think he is an asshole and he also sounds like a little bitch when he screams, house in the dining room for a general meeting"
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I like to see Jeffery put on a Turkey costume and run around the place like a turley that he is.He could probably gobble real well since he can scream like a woman.
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On 2002-06-20 20:11:00, Publisher wrote:
"Disagree...Kruglick needs to be exposed. The overriding moral principle is in place....okay--so we can't have Nuremburg trials because we might expose the Nazis's??? Give me a break---expose the bastrads!
Dan"
Why the Holocaust references? Notice no one who's ACTUALLY been to Elan makes this comparison whether they like it or not? Last time I checked when I was EMBC, there were no crematoriums!
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By the way, I hate Elan, so don't call me an "Elan Apologist."
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In my humble opinion, there are very valid comparisons to be made between the direction our country is going and that of the Third Reich. And the youth gulags fit into that. Elan is nowhere near the worst among them. But look into the CEDU and WWASP schools. Some of those come pretty close.
But no, the real death camps are our prisons. Here's some supporting documentation:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a380004880a3e.htm (http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a380004880a3e.htm)
The biggest difference between Hitler's Nazi regime and that of the Neocons is in how they define the scapegoated class.
Men seldom, or rather never for a length of time, and deliberately, rebel against anything that does not deserve rebelling against.
--Thomas Carlyle
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why is it going to far should he be afraid?????????? you mother fucker and is one sick man and belongs behide bars
this shit is just like elan they think they are untouchable.think again jeff you all pissed on me and I feel you should pay in a court of law so fuck the cotey tex kid from texas,I think not.Number one Jeff and marty I was from RI not texas all in the name of Theropy and I got nothing out of wearing those discusting tampons dipped in ketchup and your so sick to have done that.I don't care how many you helped that was just for show you are just all sick and would hurt every child if you could and deem all boys ha ha you are gay both of you.must be, you always talked about dick and size always in a GM???what was up with that?Nazi just says it the way you were,thats what no one understands.Guess you had to be there and nazi don't give you as much as you gave us,so burn in hell.You all deserve so much more than anything that is said here,you dished it out!Guess you take it.its all your words and training i read here it is Elan lingooooo.Happy mother fucking day
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Jeffery Gottlieb once was running aparent group and forgot he was running a parent group and strting screaming and yelling like the little high pitch bitch voice he had, he blacked out and thought he was running a GM until Gerald Davidson smacked him in the face.The parents were in shock and couldn't believe how mentally unstable he was.
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On 2003-08-17 14:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Jeff Gottlieb use to enjoy scratching his ass all the time.Every time I'd see Jeff he would be digging at his asshole intensly,I dont know whether or not he had a bad case of hemorroids or not but he definatly like to fondle his buttocks.
I could just imagine what his tighty whitety's looked like at the end of each day.He most likely had tractor trailor type skid marks on them.
Which reminds me, everytime I was near Jeff he had the smell of butt around him.Probably smeared lots of shit on his underwear from excessive pickings."
OMG this was so true!! LOL
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On 2003-08-17 14:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Jeff Gottlieb use to enjoy scratching his ass all the time.Every time I'd see Jeff he would be digging at his asshole intensly,I dont know whether or not he had a bad case of hemorroids or not but he definatly like to fondle his buttocks.
I could just imagine what his tighty whitety's looked like at the end of each day.He most likely had tractor trailor type skid marks on them.
Which reminds me, everytime I was near Jeff he had the smell of butt around him.Probably smeared lots of shit on his underwear from excessive pickings."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: