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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Therion on February 22, 2004, 04:30:00 AM
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This shitbag old lady is unbelieveable!!
Wonder what theyd say if I took her out in the yard and fucking worked her sorry old ass with a bat!! Fucking cunt! Jesus my ass!
OK I wouldnt do that...but I would like to see her tied from a tree and give all the kids she beat sticks and beat her like a fat bloody pinata..
After all HER bible does say eye for an eye!!!!
http://www.nospank.net/n-j51.htm (http://www.nospank.net/n-j51.htm)
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Armageddon, days of darkness
Judgment day, who's to judge
Antichrist, the beast of mayhem
King of kings, death of the world
TO MEGA THERION 666
[ This Message was edited by: Therion on 2004-02-22 01:42 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Therion on 2004-02-24 00:47 ]
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/QUOTE (for lazy no link clicking motherfuckers)
But Ms. Poulin, who said she is a prophet and talks to God and receives messages from the Almighty regularly, said that God told her she had to obey the words of the Scriptures about using a rod to correct the behaviour of children to save their souls from hell.
"It isn't easy, but God said to do it," Ms. Poulin said, acknowledging that she administered the rod to the five children named in the charges on more than two dozen occasions from October, 1999, to July, 2001.
The former nun told the court she would hit a child up to 14 times, and that other adults carried out more severe beatings, in which children where hit as many as 39 times.
After the disciplinary session, she said the offending child would often embrace her and she would pray.
"I would have the child lie down and think over what had been done and call on the Lord Jesus for help," she said. "They would get up, and they were as happy as could be."
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Armageddon, days of darkness
Judgment day, who's to judge
Antichrist, the beast of mayhem
King of kings, death of the world
TO MEGA THERION 666
[ This Message was edited by: Therion on 2004-02-22 01:40 ]
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Last week, I'm sitting in the dentist's chair for a check up & cleaning. After the doc looks me over and shoots X-rays, I'm ready for the cleaning.
In walks the tech and we exchange informal chatter. Then she asks me if I'm gonna see Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ". I respond with "I've never seen anyone rise from the dead, why waste my money to be convinced by Hollywood?"
Man, she shot outta the room like a cheetah chasing it's crack pipe. Then the doc steps in and informs me that my teeth are AOK and don't need a cleaning. No prob, lemme pay up and roll out. Meanwhile, I spot the holy rolling tech staring at me like I'm the Antichrist with a gaze that could short circuit a pacemaker. Takes more than that to rattle my cage.
I can't help but wonder if I'd answered her in the affirmative and would love to escort her chaste daughter to the movie, that I coulda got turned onto free nitrous at bible study meetings.? Jason
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I am an Agnostic, but I was raised Catholic (which is probably why I'm an Agnostic today, LOL), and I have read the Bible from cover to cover... I plan to see "The Passion of Christ" because I think it will be a good movie. I'm considering it a movie adaptation of a fiction novel.
~ M
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Im sorry...no offense..
But as a general rule I avoid CHristians..of any type...Ok I know a few that are Ok I guess..
But man Christians have been really shitty to me...My parents are CHristians..*See large Goathead Tattooed on top of right arm*
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God bless ye' n' praise Satan, boy!! :smokin:
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As I always say....If Christ were to be here looking upon what has become of "Christianity"...he would probably be ashamed of it.
I dont have any problem with the teachings of Christianity...thats all fine and all...but I do have a problem with the rabid intolerance and flat out unrestrained ignorance that accompanies your average Christian encounter. At least...MY average Christian encounter. To be honest...listening to people preach about God and so on, then watching them in how they function as people on a daily basis......I just cant bring myself to believe that God is so dense that he would actually approve of the way some Christians ( most in my experience, MY experience) behave and interpret "HIS" word. Some times I feel like I give God more credit than Christians do, and I am not even Christian.
Allright, let the hating ensue....I know I am gonna get holy rolled for this one.
In my defense...I believe that most if not all religions have people who are rabid and intolerant and ignorant...not just Christianity.....you are always going to have bad apples in the barrel...no matter the barrel. This thread just happens to touch on Christianity.
Nuff said.
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I personally think having faith is important. Regardless of what kind of faith you choose to have, it's a personal decision, and no-one else's business anyway. I'd rather talk about philosophy, than preach anything to anyone.
I have recently had a change of heart towards group faith. My nephew is having surgery this week to have part of his jaw removed. They?ve found a lump in the bone of his jaw that takes up most of his lower jaw region. It will be at that point when they find out whether or not it's cancer. He's 14 years old, and a brother to two siblings. This is a very difficult time, especially to the boys parents, my husband?s sister?s family. My husband?s family goes to a "newer" type Christian/bible based church, that as a family we have chosen to start attending with them. Sunday was our first time going to church. Free coffee, smiling faces with good intentions, love to share and family. Not bad. It was a little odd, but I enjoyed it over all. Going out to lunch afterwards was nice too. I felt closer to my in-laws yesterday.
The unity and support this creates within my family is important to all of us. Surrounding myself with people whose sole purpose of coming together, is to be better human beings, is a nice feeling. Everyone struggles in life, and some more than others. I for one need love and people around me now, more that ever. I've let fear and loathing hold me back all my life.
I believe a sign of intelligence is to question everything, and to learn as much about life as there is to know. I'm looking forward to seeing The Passion. After I do, I can then base my opinions off of what I saw, not off of some pre conceived judgements made based on personal stigmas. I know all to well, there is ignorance everywhere, and I think an open mind, and an open heart, is the best approach to life on all levels.
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
--Friedrich Nietzsche
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All religions suck
----J. Biafra, "Reigious Vomit"
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Oh I believe in a life force that you could Label as god...but not anything like you guys are thinking..
And this is something I came to totally within my own mind...using hallucinogens, and lots of reading thinking..
I studied theology for a few years...and I can blow large holes in any religion..
But if it makes ya feel good...a little less scared...a little more numb...the Im glad for you..
But if you use church as a social club thats really fucking fake..
Thats my honest opinion..and only that...sorry if ya dont like it...but I aint here to make friends..
Like the proverbial Ex Grilfriends that say "I still wanna be friends though"
I always answer with " I have enough friends and dont need another, kk thx plz drive thru"
:wink:
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Armageddon, days of darkness
Judgment day, who's to judge
Antichrist, the beast of mayhem
King of kings, death of the world
TO MEGA THERION 666
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Ok on second thought that was fucked up of me to say that..
Look, if you found something...anything that makes you happy..and gives you reason to get out of bed everyday.. Then its good and Im all for it..
I just want to clarify that its the ones that use theri beliefs as an excuse to abuse children..or get in other peoples business..
That piss me off
I have actually had people tell me "you are going to Hell" HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT??!!!
Thats like saying "you are bad and deserve to be raped" (sound farmiliar)
Muahah... dont judge me...Ill stick realities claw so deep in your heart you will pop..
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Armageddon, days of darkness
Judgment day, who's to judge
Antichrist, the beast of mayhem
King of kings, death of the world
TO MEGA THERION 666
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Anti-Christian, opponent Christi
The personifizierte bad, which in the Bible (NT, revealing the Johannes 13) ton of mega Therion (griech.: "the large animal") with the number of 666 is called. It appears before the Wiederkunft Christi on ground connection. For the early Christianity there was the Roman emperors Nero or Domitian. Late Luther, Napoleon and Hitler, whose name one put underneath with the help of the practical Kabbala the numerical value 666.
Crowley called itself even masters Therion, because one of him 1904 discovered statue of the God Horus in the Kairoer Boulak museum had the No. 666. This statue symbolized the anti-Christian for it.
It stated even, Horus had entered in the course of three days the text of the book Liber aluminium to it vel Legis, which he explained as the Bible of his teachings. Into this connection also the new interpretation of the number of 666 belongs by Steiner, which regarded it as a multiple of the magic number of the sun (6).
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On 2004-02-23 11:24:00, starfish wrote:
"I personally think having faith is important. Regardless of what kind of faith you choose to have, it's a personal decision, and no-one else's business anyway. I'd rather talk about philosophy, than preach anything to anyone.
I have recently had a change of heart towards group faith. My nephew is having surgery this week to have part of his jaw removed. They?ve found a lump in the bone of his jaw that takes up most of his lower jaw region. It will be at that point when they find out whether or not it's cancer. He's 14 years old, and a brother to two siblings. This is a very difficult time, especially to the boys parents, my husband?s sister?s family. My husband?s family goes to a "newer" type Christian/bible based church, that as a family we have chosen to start attending with them. Sunday was our first time going to church. Free coffee, smiling faces with good intentions, love to share and family. Not bad. It was a little odd, but I enjoyed it over all. Going out to lunch afterwards was nice too. I felt closer to my in-laws yesterday.
The unity and support this creates within my family is important to all of us. Surrounding myself with people whose sole purpose of coming together, is to be better human beings, is a nice feeling. Everyone struggles in life, and some more than others. I for one need love and people around me now, more that ever. I've let fear and loathing hold me back all my life.
I believe a sign of intelligence is to question everything, and to learn as much about life as there is to know. I'm looking forward to seeing The Passion. After I do, I can then base my opinions off of what I saw, not off of some pre conceived judgements made based on personal stigmas. I know all to well, there is ignorance everywhere, and I think an open mind, and an open heart, is the best approach to life on all levels.
Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
--Friedrich Nietzsche
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I don't do congregate-style religion, mainly because my spiritual connection is such that I am more comfortable being alone in the way I communicate my thoughts and my prayers. Having said that, I do strongly believe attending church/synagogue services is quite inspirational and would never discourage anyone from seeking the comfort and support of group religion. Definitly planning to see The Passion of Christ, though I am somewhat dreading the violence of Jesus being crucified because I am sure it will be traumatic. Read somewhere that Gibson's own hands were used during the nailing to the cross, to demonstrate his own belief (and mine) that no one religious group is responsible, but rather WE all are. Best wishes and God bless you and your nephew. I'm sure your prayers will be answered and all will be well.
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One thing, have any of you ever heard someone speaking in tongues? Man, it is weird. So weird that I avoid associating with anybody who tells me they belong to a charistmatic church (e.g. 4 Square Gospel) because it gives me the creeps. Just my opinion, not trying to offend anybody who thinks otherwise.
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No, but I can type in tongues. Just watch Me!
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dkododleodlroeiruroioprepprifkpdpktkldkawewrqfrededmadeoufjhruidjemdlsoscbeofmloooooahue rrrewwf
Neat, huh?
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On 2004-02-24 12:09:00, RTP2003 wrote:
"No, but I can type in tongues. Just watch Me!
aadsdafldslkgfgrsddsD'e''
e]]e]]]r]f;ff;fep[rjuhfjvcxdseokidowkjlskjdoe
dkododleodlroeiruroioprepprifkpdpktkldkawewrqfrededmadeoufjhruidjemdlsoscbeofmloooooahue rrrewwf
Neat, huh?"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
That one made me laugh out loud.....scared the cat.
It has ever been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues
--Abraham Lincoln
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early 80s
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I am a spiritual person but would never attend a religious ceremony.
I like to read about different relgious ideas mostly eastern, like Buddisim, got some good things out of that... don't like confusiscim (sp??) too apathetic, isalm, and 5 percenters I just find interesting but only because they are often so extreme.... but christianity is on of the most frightening of them all.
I don't believe in a hell and if God is that cruel why would I want to go pay my respects to him every Sunday anyway?
I am not into being part of a congregation, don't want to be part of the "flock" or so they say in the bible and stuff (was going to say shit but that just seemed wrong).
I think that thinking for yourself is the most important thing in the world and that organized relgion tends to try and make people into one big nondescript group.
I think it feeds on peoples fears and insecurities promising things that it cannot deliver or that you can find in yourself, and trys to lure them with a comfort and sense of safety that is not real. I feel that security comes from within and that you cannot find in a group, not AA, not a church, not Straight, not a cult..just my opinion...but remember I am jaded....A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother.
--Anonymous
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Kaydee, I used to think the same thing about God. Until one day it just hit me. Bad things happen because the Devil is as Bad -- as God is Good. Is there a Hell? Someplace the opposite of what most people believe Heaven to be? I sure as hell (pardon the expression) hope so because what would be the point in any of us hoping we don't end up there?
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to quote Tom Robbins:
"A longing for the Divine is intrinsic in homo sapiens. (For all we know, it is innate in squirrels, dandelions, and diamond rings, as well.) We approach the Divine by enlarging our souls and lighting up our brains. To expedite those two things may be the mission of our existence...
"...since religion bore false witness to the Divine, religion was blasphemy. And once it entered into its unholy alliancewith politics, it became the most dangerous and repressive force that the world has ever known."
-Skinny Legs and All
I have to stay away from churches and all but the most loosely organized anarchistic groups because I am extremely prone to cult mentality (I imagine a lot of us are). I SO want someone to have the answer. And so I keep a healthy distance from anyone who claims to.
That being said, churches can do good things and coming together to try and tap into what is beautiful and good in the world is certainly not inherently bad. To each their own, live and let live.
Morli, your nephew and your family will be in my thoughts. I know how scary this is and am glad you are all pulling together, you need each other at times like this. Please keep us updated.
Erin
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On 2004-02-24 13:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Bad things happen because the Devil is as Bad -- as God is Good"
Actually, God is not quite as nice as the Devil. God punishes you for behaving badly... But the Devil doesn't punish you for behaving well.
Playing Devil's advocate ::hehehmm::,
Mindi
(edited for emphasis)
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How does God punish? If you believe in God and disobey any or all of the 10 Commandments? No, God does not punish. That's why Jesus died for our sins.
Other than that, I do not disagree. The Devil does not punish anybody for being good, except to make them even more baaaaaaaad.
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On 2004-02-24 14:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
"How does God punish? If you believe in God and disobey any or all of the 10 Commandments? No, God does not punish. That's why Jesus died for our sins.
I was raised Catholic. That should say it all, LOL. According to Catholics, sinners go to Hell. And everyone's a sinner. So everyone's going to Hell. What kind of loving, caring, forgiving, benevolent God is gonna let "His" creations go to Hell? Sounds like punishment to me!
Some say we can be saved if we believe in God and repent our sins. What if you're a stubborn Agnostic such as myself who simply cannot believe, or disbelieve for that matter, in something of which there is no proof (God)? And/or what if you don't repent your sins? I curse; I have sex; I have "desecrated the temple" of my body with drugs, alcohol, and tattoos; I don't "honor my father and my mother"; and I don't feel bad about any of these things. According to Catholicism, I'm doomed to Hell. More punishment! Yay!
IMO, if there is a God, which I will never be convinced of, it didn't send any prophet down any mountain carrying any stone tablets telling people how to live their lives. It also didn't have a son who was put through atrocities on mankind's behalf.
IMO, if there is a God, it is a silent, sentient force that does not judge, does not reward, does not punish, but simply... just... is.
~ Mindi the Agnostic
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How about that modern day prophet Joseph Smith? The guy who supposedly found the gold plates, and had a epithany courtesy of the Angel Moroni leading him to conclude that Jesus made some kind of a pit stop in America ... blah, blah, blah. I mean, Mormonism has got to be the biggest con religion of the century. Polygamy, sheesh, what man would not want plural wives (sex slaves)? What most people don't know is that the Mormon settlers were forced to give up Polygamy in order to *settle* peacefully in Utah. Prior to that, practicing polygamists were viewed as good Mormons, recreating more Mormons faster than you could say HOLY MORONI.
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Oh yeah, Joseph Smith was a polygamist before he was murdered. I believe he had more than 40 wives, possibly as many as 60, but I'd have to look the exact number up.
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I don't know about that anon's statement
"bad things happen becasue the devil is bad"
that is just not something I can really believe in I think that the urge to be good and bad is in everyone like John locke' state of nature.
I don't think any devil or God makes us or things happen that are good or bad.
I believe strongly that religion has always been a way to opress people, to keep them in their social station esp. earlier Christianity....leading peasents to believe it was gods will that they were not born of nobility and to stay there and not relvolt and that it was "evil" to questions God's wisdom.
Anytime anyone thinks they know what is right for you and the rest of the world and can with a few words say that half the people on the entire planet are going to hell because they do not believe in the same "man in the sky" as another group of people that also has to be wrong.
It just is not logical and it is not something I would want to be apart of if it were true. The God I would worship would love all people regardless of divorce, sexual orientation, or any of the other petty crap that gets you banned from the holy rollers club these days.
I'll skip the service, pass me the wine.Clancy's Law: The perceived role of governments is to deploy ever increasing resources to the attainment of ever diminishing end results.
--Home Page (http://ozinfo.com/)
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On 2004-02-24 16:21:00, kaydeejaded wrote:
"Anytime anyone thinks they know what is right for you and the rest of the world and can with a few words say that half the people on the entire planet are going to hell because they do not believe in the same "man in the sky" as another group of people that also has to be wrong.
It just is not logical and it is not something I would want to be apart of if it were true."
I agree. Most of what I know about religion (particularly Catholicism, but others too) is just not logical. In addition to being illogical, religion is very often immoral -- look back through history at all the wars that have been waged, all the blood that has been spilled, all in the name of one religion or another, particularly Christianity. The 6th Commandment ought to read "Thou shalt not murder unless you do so in My name." ::cheers::
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Brittney Spears Saved (??) by Family Intervention.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories ... ceid=60880 (http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=60880)
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There is no devil!! OMG we arent in the 16th century anymore.. MAN is the devil...
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So I see bud hit in the chest with a nasty ass wound : he's all fuckedup. I pack him off (burbling chest sucking wound). He's looking at me like I got time to stay. I stay long enuf to smile and move out and save my ass. He survived! Did I?
Jason
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Alex, you know that the bible was written prior to there being peasents....but it was used in that way to not question God's wisdom by having you born into the station that you were born into.
This was part of the early ideology around the time of the crusades. To try and raise ones station was viewed as a slight against God...
forgive me as I mingle history and theology here.Time is running out. The Indians' botanical knowledge is disappearing even faster than the plants themselves.
--Richard Schultes, Harvard University educator, authority on medicinal plants
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Alex, you know that the bible was written prior to there being peasents
I don't know about that..haven't there ALWAYS been peasants? :smokin:
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I think what we are all really asking here is..
would you sleep with a nun?? ::kiss::
Im gonna leave you with my philosophy..Everyone hates everyone, may you get high and eat pussy till your jaw falls off, trust noone..and never borrow money.
Do these things and you shall be free.. :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
**SLAUGHTERED*
One's own Kingman, Christ person, Woman God.
At battle with a mass astrengent. The bond
That blends the weak to the wise.
It's a safe assumption that you'd want
to save me now. But I'll never face castration.
For your sacred sow is left slaughtered.
Brainwashed by me. Myself influence I. Bird brained
World saver. A fake god rests dead inside you.
It's a safe assumption that you'd want to save me now.
But I'll never face castration. For your sacred sow is left
Slaughtered.
System destroyed. Exposed and unployed. The fruit
Of intention cry for their dead, but turning their head to
Ignore reality's claw. Knife to your wrist, syringe in your
Arm is your ounce of prevention. Give what you made,
And under your name on your grave, is salvation. A big
Fucking joke.
Slaughter the pig, the self rightous king for your own
Restoration. For your God is in your chest, and faith kills
What is precious, for death is unanswered.
Do sin.
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I don't think you belong in here, I feel I'm sick. Don't ask because
You know damn well where I've been. I've kept a simple
Woman through the thick and thin. But I've found the guts
to sever from my Siamese twin.
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I personally do not believe that God punishes me...I feel that I punish me and my own decisions and actions have results and consequences. Regardless of what you believe in we were all put here on this earth with free will and the power to make decisions. What we do with the rest is up to us. I am anxious to go see The Passion tomorrow. I have had my tickets for 3 weeks and have read and researched as much as I could about it. Mel went out on his own with this movie because Hollywood had to many limits with it. I think that this may be the last of Mels work (by his choice). He stated that this is not a christian movie. This movie is for everyone.
Even for non believers, this story is known virtually by all and should be known as an incredible piece of art by Mel. Mel said that he wanted his hands to be the ones hammering the nails into Jesus hands simpley because he feels most responsible for his own sins and killing Jesus on the cross.
I am a believer in christ but, if I wasn't I would want to see this film for the simple fact that one person (Mel) has sooo much passion about it that it would intrigue me to no end.
Scott
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ok there were always peasents.....but you know what I meant!
I am not going to see the passion...but then again I hate watching movies in the theatre. Last one I saw in the movie complex was Broke Down Palace.
How does that date me !!! hehehehehe :wink: Every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid."
--Alexander Hamilton
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On 2004-02-25 09:36:00, Scott D wrote:
"I personally do not believe that God punishes me...I feel that I punish me and my own decisions and actions have results and consequences. Regardless of what you believe in we were all put here on this earth with free will and the power to make decisions. What we do with the rest is up to us. I am anxious to go see The Passion tomorrow. I have had my tickets for 3 weeks and have read and researched as much as I could about it. Mel went out on his own with this movie because Hollywood had to many limits with it. I think that this may be the last of Mels work (by his choice). He stated that this is not a christian movie. This movie is for everyone.
Even for non believers, this story is known virtually by all and should be known as an incredible piece of art by Mel. Mel said that he wanted his hands to be the ones hammering the nails into Jesus hands simpley because he feels most responsible for his own sins and killing Jesus on the cross.
I am a believer in christ but, if I wasn't I would want to see this film for the simple fact that one person (Mel) has sooo much passion about it that it would intrigue me to no end.
Scott"
I agree, Gibson has put his heart and soul into this movie. Good for him, God knows people don't have to go see the movie if they aren't interested in his depiction of the last days in the life of Jesus Christ. Me, I want to go, both as a believer and someone who wants to see for myself the culmination of Gibson's hard work and vision. Besides, I need a break from the propaganda campaign speeches which are driving me nuts knowing there ain't no saints in politics.
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that's fucked up
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That's Froderick, fucked up and proud of it!
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On 2004-02-25 10:42:00, Froderik13 wrote:
"I love History myself...so far have gobbled up all the history classes in my school Western Civ I and II American History American Government and Now Modern China I looovvvveee History ....so well you know
Too bad I couldn't have had you for a history teacher. :wave: Hows the post jail sentence job hunt going? :wink:
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No more holdbacks. No more paying a cops paycheck. Let him
Bust his own child. The son that heeds my word and smokes my dope.
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/bump for gods and shitty teachers alike
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You know, religion is not a good thing (in my opinion), but Jesus wasn't a bad guy. I don't believe he was "the son of god", but he was pretty revolutionary and a big supporter of the redistribution of wealth and a champion for the rights of the oppressed. I think the main reason he was killed was that the royalty didn't much care for his "poor good, rich bad" etc, and it was catching on. A lot of people with good ideas that catch on are killed. Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X. Overall, I don't think Jesus would much care for the religion that's being practiced in his name.
So anyway that's why the maggot ditty was offensive to me even though I question not your right to post it.
Was it Noam Chomsky who said that if god did in fact exist, he's oppressive and should be overthrown? That's prolly right on.
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I agree mamma
If god exists and there is a hell etc etc... I would not worship a god that created us as inherently evil creatures (Mabey not evil but flawed) only to punish us for eternity..
I think most churches today are just social functions..and I generally do not like the people I have met when dragged into them..
And people always say the same shit "Ohh no our church isnt like that...this is diffrent"
But its always the same ...
The last time my Exs family dragged me into church I got up and walked out feeling ill halfway thru
They sang stupid songs then the "Pastor" talked in circles making no fucking relevant point at all...then when her parents asked me what I thought of it and their preacher i told them
"That man had no point at all..and wasted everyones time"...Id rathe sit home and study books than hear what some fuckstain thinks is gods word...I can interpret what I read thanks very much :roll: :roll:
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On 2004-02-24 14:14:00, Mamma Bird wrote:
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That being said, churches can do good things and coming together to try and tap into what is beautiful and good in the world is certainly not inherently bad. To each their own, live and let live.
Morli, your nephew and your family will be in my thoughts. I know how scary this is and am glad you are all pulling together, you need each other at times like this. Please keep us updated.
Erin"
Thanks Erin and Anonymous,
You know, I'm right there with a lot of you. I used to vow to never step foot into a church, or group for that matter. I couldn't even go to a Mary Kay meeting last summer for my husband?s sister! But I'll tell ya, I have changed. I realized that I think too much about what I don't like, and what's gone wrong in my life. I spend too much time feeling sad for things I have no control over, and angry at things that I can't go back and change. Having unity in a family is something I've never had. I lay in bed just this morning, crying about being 13, and having to spend 18 months of my life in the first prison camp, being so young, having lost all my education because of being in straight also. After discussing my daughter's behavior last night with my husband this morning, and thinking about how different our lives are. Doesn't take much to trigger my sadness. Then I stopped, and I thought about what I have now, realized it's never over, and that the future is now.
I'm even speaking to my mother again, and yes, she is a bible banging freak, but she's my mom. She regrets mistakes in the past just as much as I do. I accept her, I love her. I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but it was something I needed to get past, in order to heal from. As for God, well, he's always been a big question mark. I pray, and wonder if I even believe I'm praying to anything at all. But recently I've been thinking about how nice it is to think that through all these years of pain, the praying may have carried me over to where I am now. The other side. I am fortunate, and should be happy, but I've kept myself from being happy with my own stubborn resistance, or have I just been lazy? Either way. change is possible, it's always possible.
My goal in life now, is to think more about others, to be "a part" of my husband's family. To feel closer to them, and in return, closer to my own heart. I have made so many poor choices in friendships, and relationships in my life, and have been disappointed, and/or burned because of it. I want to be precise in my thinking, and I want to make the right choices for my health, well being, and the well being of my family. I want to be a good mommy, and a good wife. I'm not saying by tomorrow I'll be a born again Christian or anything, and I'm not saying choosing to do anything is because of Christianity, but I will definitely have a more open mind, and an open heart. I mean, I have only been there once so far. :wink:
My nephew's surgery was rescheduled due to insurance coverage complications. March 18th.
Morli
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those that torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis, God In The Dock
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Morli...I think you deserve to be happy, and I really hope you find what youre looking for
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On 2004-02-27 10:49:00, Therion wrote:
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Morli...I think you deserve to be happy, and I really hope you find what youre looking for
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Thank you Brad,
I feel the exact same way about you. ::kiss:: (Platonic kiss, Kady!) Don't laugh when you leave this courtroom, thinking you have beat the system because you have looked these things up yourself. We are going to get you down the road.
Washington Superior CourtJudge Rebecca Baker
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hhehehe :wave:
In time...whats deserved always gets served
But you know I was raised in church...and actually kept that faith for years...until one day I realized that there is no "god" and if there is he fucking hates me..and hates the world
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She had rings on her fingers and bells on her shoes
And I knew without asking she was into the blues
She wore scarlet begonias tucked into her curls
I knew right away she was not like other girls...like other girls
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