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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 19, 2004, 02:50:00 PM
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If you believe you've been damaged by WWASP and missed the Huron direct actions..hang on your chance may still be coming - a few HUGE Mass Tort firms are taking a strong look at joining in with a Mass Tort ..so you may get your chance soon.
find out more about Mass Torts by reading "The King of Torts" by John Grisham now out in paperback.
pretty interesting reading ...how many children has WWASP served? masses I'd guess.
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Oh, this is interesting. Another possible Mass Fart Lawsuit.
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glad you're interested perhaps we'll see the child satisfaction rate?
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And perhaps we won't if this really is just more pie-in-the-sky like the direct-action-lawsuit which was first announced, uh, I believe almost a year ago?
:roll:
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shut up..shut up..look to your left..there's a big fan..and it smells in here.. :rofl:
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On 2004-02-19 12:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Oh, this is interesting. Another possible Mass Fart Lawsuit. "
:rofl:
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probably could call WWASP attorneys (Ken or Carey could refer you) since they just met with the plaintiffs (childrens) attorneys from Huron/Masry but makes sense that maybe they (WWASP) don't want the legions of faithful to know that the direct actions by Huron are a REAL thing.
again don't fret if you feel you've been damaged - your help may be on the way
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probably could call WWASP attorneys (Ken or Carey could refer you) since they just met with the plaintiffs (childrens) attorneys from Huron/Masry but makes sense that maybe they (WWASP) don't want the legions of faithful to know that the direct actions by Huron are a REAL thing.
Thanks for the info. I smell DOOM for WWASP!!
$pammer1
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On 2004-02-19 12:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"probably could call WWASP attorneys (Ken or Carey could refer you) since they just met with the plaintiffs (childrens) attorneys from Huron/Masry but makes sense that maybe they (WWASP) don't want the legions of faithful to know that the direct actions by Huron are a REAL thing.
again don't fret if you feel you've been damaged - your help may be on the way "
Oh, and just how do you know this, Anon? Care to share your source or would that place you in some kind of legal jeopardy?
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shut up, spammer2. :lol:
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On 2004-02-19 12:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-02-19 12:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"probably could call WWASP attorneys (Ken or Carey could refer you) since they just met with the plaintiffs (childrens) attorneys from Huron/Masry but makes sense that maybe they (WWASP) don't want the legions of faithful to know that the direct actions by Huron are a REAL thing.
again don't fret if you feel you've been damaged - your help may be on the way "
Oh, and just how do you know this, Anon? Care to share your source or would that place you in some kind of legal jeopardy?"
:scared:
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On 2004-02-19 12:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"probably could call WWASP attorneys (Ken or Carey could refer you) since they just met with the plaintiffs (childrens) attorneys from Huron/Masry but makes sense that maybe they (WWASP) don't want the legions of faithful to know that the direct actions by Huron are a REAL thing.
again don't fret if you feel you've been damaged - your help may be on the way "
Give us Huron/Masry's email address or phone number. Somebody needs to call this lawfirm and ask them directly to confirm the validity of this post and the credibility of the person who posted it. Me, I think this whole board has been recklessly hijacked by someone with an agenda that is dangerously out-of-control.
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Me, I think this whole board has been recklessly hijacked by someone with an agenda that is dangerously out-of-control.
Look fool - if it weren't for the "reckless hijacking" as you call it, this thread would have never been brought to the top, now would it? :cool:
You're welcome,
"$pammer" 1
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Ooops, sorry. This was one of the new ones. But it WAS most likely inspired by some of the other threads that I was bumping, so I can still sorta take credit...
Spammer1
PS - WWASP BLOWS!
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On 2004-02-19 13:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Look fool - if it weren't for the "reckless hijacking" as you call it, this thread would have never been brought to the top, now would it? :cool:
You're welcome,
"$pammer" 1"
I think that was the point they were trying to make. You seem to be the only one that feels a need to bring it back up to the top...but then you don't say shit. If you have some point you'd like to get across, say it...otherwise, leave it alone.
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Don't kid yourself Spammer, this is not about anything but ripping off Ginger and confusing people to satisfy your stupid agenda. But while you're still here, mind giving us Huron's email address or a phone number?
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I think that was the point they were trying to make. You seem to be the only one that feels a need to bring it back up to the top...but then you don't say shit. If you have some point you'd like to get across, say it...otherwise, leave it alone.
First of all, fuck you, I'll do what I want. Secondly, that was NOT the WHOLE point. That subject would never been touched on if it weren't for me.
Go fly a kite! :lol:
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What makes you think I have that info, idiot?
$pammer1
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Spammer, just give us Huron's email address or their phone number and don't worry about saving your ass for posting any bogus info on this thread or any other. It's too late anyway.
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the other side would probably have that contact information and/or could confirm that the cases are headed forward the meeting was not a secret and known to the plaintiffs.
sorry you're so bunched up about it - are you a defendant?
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Anon, how do you know this information about WWASPS and HURON to be factually correct? Were you there?
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Here's Masry's email address. Personally, I have no real interest in following up on this matter since the info appears to be based entirely on heresay and we all know what heresay is worth. Zippo. Anon/Spammer, since you can't provide documentation, please don't be too surprised if people ignore your lip service. It's just common sense.
http://www.masryvititoe.com/eval.php (http://www.masryvititoe.com/eval.php)
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Oh, and BTW: Possible means potentially NOT FOR REAL. Something to think about when waiting for a train that may take years to leave the station, if it ever leaves at all.
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Since this was posted by one of the spammies, it is impossible not to be skeptical of the validity of the information, particularly in the absence of documentation to support their claims. The book, while interesting, does not meet my standard of "documentation".
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that's what it said possible
isn't that what the Huron lawsuit threads previously said too "possible"? now it seems there on their way?
hope WWASP is shooting straight with all you who are supporting them here.
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Proof, Anon, not heresay, is what you need to provide for people to attach any credibility to your statements. Is that really so hard to understand? As for your comment about WWASPS, why must you persist in accusing everybody of being one? Please, it is that kind of narrow-mindedness that has me convinced you folks could use a lesson in objectivity.
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it's posts from WWASP and their faithful parents that make me believe they need to take some lessons in parenting.
the topic was to inform those children who believe they've been harmed by WWASP -perhaps masses-that something big may be coming
the post was not to employees of WWASP but was clearly directed to children who were held in WWASP facilities.
it really doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not- look you didn't believe that Huron cases are active...not looking for credibility here
don't know who you are so how can I call you one/ for all I know you a son of a WWASP employee who was held in a WWASP facility and now working for them and sharing all you learned to further the program?
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On 2004-02-20 09:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"it's posts from WWASP and their faithful parents that make me believe they need to take some lessons in parenting.
the topic was to inform those children who believe they've been harmed by WWASP -perhaps masses-that something big may be coming
the post was not to employees of WWASP but was clearly directed to children who were held in WWASP facilities.
it really doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not- look you didn't believe that Huron cases are active...not looking for credibility here
don't know who you are so how can I call you one/ for all I know you a son of a WWASP employee who was held in a WWASP facility and now working for them and sharing all you learned to further the program?
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:nworthy:
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Anon writes:
hope WWASP is shooting straight with all you who are supporting them here.
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One more time, Anon, there is a legion of non-WWASPEES and non-PUREES who appreciate Fornits as a very good source for information relevant to issues which have absolutely nothing to do with the agenda of either of these 2 organizations.
Regarding the possible Mass Tort Lawsuit, and the much bally-hooed yet still unfiled direct-action lawsuit, can you really blame people for being skeptical after all the havoc that has been created on this board, of late? Come now, be smart. Produce documentation. Either you have it or you don't. Simple as that. People should not have to call your alleged source to confirm or disprove anything. Play straight, you'd be surprised at how much that would improve your credibility.
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again, not looking for credibility here
it doesn't sound like you are a possible plaintiff here so I guess it doesn't apply to you.
The name of the law firms involved in LA have been given.
you seem to be very very interested for someone so unattached to this issue- why the interest?
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Anon, I don't have a problem with anybody advocating for children who is sincere. So far, you have not convinced me that you are as sincere as you are "mad". Mad at Wwasps who you allege "hurt your kid" and at Carey Bock who you allege "hurt your cause". What about the parents who still have kids in a Wwasps school or program? Are you mad at them, too, because they only told you "pretty stories"? What about your own responsibility to do due-dilegence? Were you not aware of the controversy surrounding this organization in recent years or even as far back as 1998 (The David Van Blarigan Story)? Did you even visit the program BEFORE enrolling your child? I ask these questions not because I am worried about your credibility, but rather, because you are not, as you point out in your last post. Since I am not a Wwaspie or one of the Purees, please don't waste your time going down that dead-end road.
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What makes you think I'm mad? You're kinda fun ...I just want everyone to be able to share their experience. Some feel damaged. It's important that they continue to be heard.
Did I say WWASP hurt my child? or that I did or did not do a due dillegence look see?
I'm aware of WWASP before David Van Blarigan but his case did bring the first national attention. Maybe he'd like to be heard? Mom and Dad had their say on national tv about how he wouldn't come out of his tree house/etc - don't you wonder if David loved WWASP?
and why do you care so much..are you employed by WWASP, make referrals for $$, placed your kid, or a defendant in a lawsuit???..in your referrals do you disclose to parents that you're aware of all of the allegations of abuse and encourage them to do due dilligence as you've advised me or do you tell them it's all lies?
as for parents with kids in WWASP /I pity them.
Kids in WWASP/ I feel for them.
Carey I disregard /as I read she's got a mess of her own to attend to and it doesn't seem it was her focus to have kids heard as it is mine.
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On 2004-02-20 17:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What makes you think I'm mad? You're kinda fun ...I just want everyone to be able to share their experience. Some feel damaged. It's important that they continue to be heard.
Did I say WWASP hurt my child? or that I did or did not do a due dillegence look see?
I'm aware of WWASP before David Van Blarigan but his case did bring the first national attention. Maybe he'd like to be heard? Mom and Dad had their say on national tv about how he wouldn't come out of his tree house/etc - don't you wonder if David loved WWASP?
and why do you care so much..are you employed by WWASP, make referrals for $$, placed your kid, or a defendant in a lawsuit???..in your referrals do you disclose to parents that you're aware of all of the allegations of abuse and encourage them to do due dilligence as you've advised me or do you tell them it's all lies?
as for parents with kids in WWASP /I pity them.
Kids in WWASP/ I feel for them.
Carey I disregard /as I read she's got a mess of her own to attend to and it doesn't seem it was her focus to have kids heard as it is mine.
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Hmm, think I got you confused with the other anon on this thread. Sorry about that, my mistake. As for your questions, NO, I don't refer kids into programs or work in the industry. That's a job for people with no conscience, just a talent for making money off the backs of kids.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=9&Sort=D (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=4422&forum=9&Sort=D)
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Thanks
just curious about those so nervous and demanding proof- when they could just ask their buddies or the law firm representing WWASP
they say that it's been a year and then say May last year -is it May already? some cases take years unless sometimes defendants take actions to settle and silence plaintiffs? - that it seems happens faster -hope that the plaintiffs will not go for that.
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this thread had dropped way down
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So what exactly is being handed out to the victims of this mass tort law suit? Cash? Post on here (you might not know exactly what the compensation is going to be given in) if it is money or not, I would definitely be interested into reading into that.
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money - for the plantiffs and attorneys
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Liability for these and future defendants.
Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
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just watched the "Runaway Jury" for any who have not it's a great movie and they definately make the point that if the case (fictional) is won against the gun industry every lawyer in America will be looking for a case to file-
perhaps that will happen with this industry
from the looks of these boards there is no shortage of plaintiffs and complaints abound against a large variety of programs.
Maybe this industry will get some external control....in a way they can understand...
I'll stay tuned..
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keep hearing that old song in my head that goes like....hang on help is on the way- I'll be there as fast as I can....does anyone remember who sang it??? Fleetwood Mac?
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Little River Band
All penalties for drug users should be dropped...Making drug abuse a crime is useless and even dangerous...Every year we seize more and more drugs but the quantity available still increases...Police are losing the drug battle worldwide.
--Raymond Kendall ~ Secretary General of Interpol 1994
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thank you - wish I knew how to play it here when this thread opened
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stay tuned - could be an announcement soon
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Something new?
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nothing new just some big boys looking like they're ready to jump in. The quality firms that specialize in this area of mass torts take lots of time to research ....and it's looking really good- look for an announcement soon...wonder how WWASP would handle a mass tort- does insurance cover it?
when it hits the press it may have some similarites to the Iraq prisioner abuse- people are so outraged about that - imagine how they would react if similar treatments are used on US teens?
Does anyone know if WWASP has insurance?
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Is a mass tort the same as a class action? Either way, why just WWASP? Why not name as many outfits as possible that also fit the same bill?
If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race?
--Frederic Bastiat -- 1801-1850
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Q/1 No. Its different.
Q/2 Go for it. Start compiling information and evidence and plaintiffs. Then research and interview law firms. Try not to get sued yourself while your at it. Good luck. Its no easy feat. Let us know how it goes.
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must be commonality between plaintiffs
Morse Dees and the Southern Law Poverty Group won a class action against the Redemption Ranch in the 80's - my understanding is that the commonality was that the children would need therapy for the rest of their lives.