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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 19, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
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Even though it's obvious who is behind this B.S., I can not believe their nerve in wasting Ginger's time and resources. Please don't forget to send her a check for "services rendered". It is the least you can do.
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blow me...guess who, fuckwad...
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No need to guess, it's the dickless boy-wonder jerking off again, on Ginger's dime. P.I.G.
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I agree. If you cannot get your point of view across without resorting to this childish behavior then there is obviously something wrong with your argument. You have just alienated everybody on this board. Go away and play with someone your own mental age.
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On 2004-02-19 09:42:00, Kiwi wrote:
"I agree. If you cannot get your point of view across without resorting to this childish behavior then there is obviously something wrong with your argument. You have just alienated everybody on this board. Go away and play with someone your own mental age."
:nworthy:
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I'd like to start another debate...just what IS spam, and what isn't? :eek:
I'm just bumping up what I see to be more relevant and interesting threads...what's the big deal?
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In case you didn't see the other post buried in your spam, please address your check to "Ginger Warbis". I'm sure she will appreciate you paying the piper for your childish (some might say pathological) behavior.
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I'd like to start another debate...just what IS spam, and what isn't?
I'm just bumping up what I see to be more relevant and interesting threads...what's the big deal?
The big deal is that you are creating chaos on the board. The threads your are bumping were lower down because everybody who wanted to had already read them and no one had anything further to contribute. You are bumping so many threads that the active ones are disappearing off the bottom of the screen. Why bump if you have nothing more to say?
I don't know why I am bothering to answer this question. I cannot believe you don't already realize this.
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$25 bucks per bump (spam) is the going rate in case you didn't know.
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I'm required to comment on the threads? You've gotta be kidding! I like the subject matter, so I bump 'em. What's your problem with free speech? :???:
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$25 bucks per bump (spam) is the going rate in case you didn't know.
Haha... :rofl: Goddamn you have me in stitches! Holy shit!!! (not)
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I'm required to comment on the threads? You've gotta be kidding! I like the subject matter, so I bump 'em. What's your problem with free speech?
Bumping threads is not speech. Saying something is speech. Bumping as many threads as you are doing is just antisocial.
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But I'm saying things...if you had eyes, you would see that...
So you're saying no one is allowed to bump threads, and that no one ever does it? Are you kidding?
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Kiwi - Ginger knows who is behind this and I rather expect that before long, everbody else will too.
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But I'm saying things...if you had eyes, you would see that...
Like:
ifodjghl;kjdshg;oeh6gwkeurcbfkajercgiuqryeftiuc3wyfeiuyqweiurxcyqi34luficlqwerl
Yeah, right.
So you're saying no one is allowed to bump threads, and that no one ever does it? Are you kidding?
Bumping should only be done with discretion and you are showing none.
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Kiwi - Ginger knows who is behind this and I rather expect that before long, everbody else will too
Knows about what?
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Kiwi - Ginger knows who is behind this and I rather expect that before long, everbody else will too.
Good point Anon. There is obviously no point in attempting any meaningful dialog round here at present.
"Screw you guys, I'm going home"
Cartman
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But you're *not* saying anything. You're not contributing anything new, you're just trying to control what others read.
Now, if you posted *one* posting with a list of the URL's of the threads you think are really important, and said, "I think these are really important, and here's why...."--*then* you'd be saying something.
As it is, you're not saying something, you're just being annoying and immature, and if Ginger deletes your bumps, I'm certainly not going to consider it viewpoint censorship. Instead, I'll look at it as control/correction of a behavior designed to circumvent the smooth functioning of the Board as an open forum for all points of view.
There are often multiple ways to do something. Some of those ways are annoying, some tactful, some neutral.
I don't have a problem with your opinion vis which threads are important and your expressing that opinion. I have a problem with your choosing a manner of expression that disrupts the mechanical function of the board for everyone else by making it impossible to sort out the active threads from the inactive ones.
*If* you are truly interested in communicating a point of view and not just screwing up the function of the board, you should have no trouble with putting together a single post with the URL's of the threads you think are particularly important and why, rather than continuing this obnoxious behavior.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just hadn't thought of that.Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.
Mahatma Gandhi, My Autobigraphy, p. 446
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I don't have a problem with your opinion vis which threads are important and your expressing that opinion. I have a problem with your choosing a manner of expression that disrupts the mechanical function of the board for everyone else by making it impossible to sort out the active threads from the inactive ones.
It doesn't disrupt the function at all...all you have to do is go to the next page, silly.
*If* you are truly interested in communicating a point of view and not just screwing up the function of the board, you should have no trouble with putting together a single post with the URL's of the threads you think are particularly important and why, rather than continuing this obnoxious behavior.
Why should I have to do that?
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I'm with you, Kiwi. Whoever is responsible for costing Ginger time and money in this show of complete disrespect for who she is and what she is doing for others, deserves what they have surely got coming.
:flame:
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Oooooooo...I'm scaaaared... :rofl:
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pussy..
$pammer1
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I'm with you, Kiwi. Whoever is responsible for costing Ginger time and money in this show of complete disrespect for who she is and what she is doing for others, deserves what they have surely got coming.
Sorry, spammer2. I've got just as much right to be here as you do. Blow your horn all you want. You ain't shit...and oh yeah..WWASP is BOGU$.
$pammer1
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On 2004-02-19 10:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I don't have a problem with your opinion vis which threads are important and your expressing that opinion. I have a problem with your choosing a manner of expression that disrupts the mechanical function of the board for everyone else by making it impossible to sort out the active threads from the inactive ones.
It doesn't disrupt the function at all...all you have to do is go to the next page, silly.
*If* you are truly interested in communicating a point of view and not just screwing up the function of the board, you should have no trouble with putting together a single post with the URL's of the threads you think are particularly important and why, rather than continuing this obnoxious behavior.
Why should I have to do that?"
To avoid being obnoxious.
Your behavior amounts to a denial of service attack on Ginger's board. I hope she sends you a warning notification, and that if you don't stop, she notifies your ISP and gets your account killed as a violation of your Terms of Service agreement.
Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."
Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1916, Ch.9
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Denial of Service? Bull. I have every right to comment on/bump threads that I find interesting. And that's ALL I'm doing! :flame:
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Attempts at censorship usually begin with attitudes like yours. Somebody thinks that what someone else has to say is offensive or potentially offensive, so it shouldn't be said.
I find the threads that I've bumped MUCH more interesting than the crap du jour that's been being dished up here lately...
Sorry, but you're wrong...
"$pammer" 1
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Denial of Service? Bull. I have every right to comment on/bump threads that I find interesting. And that's ALL I'm doing!
That was me..$pammer1
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On 2004-02-19 12:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Attempts at censorship usually begin with attitudes like yours. Somebody thinks that what someone else has to say is offensive or potentially offensive, so it shouldn't be said.
I find the threads that I've bumped MUCH more interesting than the crap du jour that's been being dished up here lately...
Sorry, but you're wrong...
"$pammer" 1"
I don't object to the content of your opinions, I object to the manner in which you're using your expression to drown out other people's.
The police can't arrest Jane Doe for giving a speech in the public square on anything from government corruption to dryer lint----but if Jane starts giving the very same speech over a loudly amplified bullhorn that hurts the ears of the other people walking through the square, or drowns out their conversations, the police can drag Jane right off in handcuffs and prosecute---and make it stick in Court, too.
Freedom of speech, and censorship, are issues relating to content----not manner.
Your right to swing your fist ends at the other guy's nose. Rules on the *manner* of speech, not the content, exist all over the country, and are routinely upheld.
Now, it's Ginger's board and if she doesn't have a problem with your virtual "screaming" drowning out other people, that's her business. But if she *does* have a problem with it and tells you to cut it out, that's her business, too----which your ISP will help her enforce, if needed.If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.
--Thomas Paine
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I have every right to comment on/bump threads that I find interesting. And that's ALL I'm doing!
Why don't you bump your threads, or reply on them?
You're wasting your time, think about it.
$pammer1
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I just read this post by Ginger on another forum. It is about a letter she received from a Straight Survivor. Very poignant letter which underscores the tragedy of these places and how lucky we all are to have a place like Fornits where survivors can come, find one another and make new friends, share their personal thoughts and feelings, get important notices and/or updates which might be relevant to them, exchange private emails or chat by IM, especially when someone is feeling down and can use a helping hand. Here is the post in case others have not read it. (Thanks Ginger!)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... &forum=7&2 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=4419&forum=7&2)
Regarding the Spammer: No matter what their intentions were, the end result was chaos. I am sorry about that because the teen hurt industry is not all about WWASPS or the agenda of a handful of people intent on "taking them down". It is about small, mom-and-pop sized outfits that run group homes (like the now defunct Royal Haven), mid size paramilitary programs like Buffalo Soldiers (where Tony Haynes died), outdoor behavioral healthcare programs like Catherine Freer, Skyline Journey, Obsidian Trails, Red Rock Ranch Academy, On Track, where teens have lost their lives, not to mention the faith-based programs like Mountain Park Academy, Roloff, Bethel, notorious for victimizing youth in God's name. The list goes on and on. Perhaps the Spammer might think about these kids the next time he/she gets the urge to hijack Fornits for their own misuse.
:wave:
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Anybody know or want to try and guess who it is?
There are some important clues that lead me to conclude the Spammer is a male who has a fetish for posting one-line sentences that usually end in a command for someone to bite, suck or fuck them. In other words, a poorly socialized, rude, crude dude that gets off on making a public ass out of themselves.
Am I right, so far?
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More Clues:
Definitly a WWASPIE and CAREY hater, which around here means they probably are ultra-sensitive to any criticism about PURE. :rofl:
Other than that, the spammer is just your basic bully. Fairly bright but stuck in some kind of time warp that tells them it's okay to act like a prick as long as they don't get caught.
W.E.A.S.E.L.
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Hey Folks:
You guys are goofing off while kids are being beaten and abused. Use this wonderful forum for things that matter, not for puberty rated vulgarity.
Grow up, you jerk wads!
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Hey Stranger.....BITE ME. This forum is not JUST for saving the kids that are abused now....it's also part of the process of saving ourselves and if that means that we get the anger we have at these people out on a board like this, SO BE IT. You don't like it????? DON'T FUCKING COME BACK TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On 2004-02-20 05:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey Stranger.....BITE ME. This forum is not JUST for saving the kids that are abused now....it's also part of the process of saving ourselves and if that means that we get the anger we have at these people out on a board like this, SO BE IT. You don't like it????? DON'T FUCKING COME BACK TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
You know, there are classes that can help you learn to talk to girls.
Good personal hygiene will also help in your effort to get that big first date.
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it's so funny that you assume I'm a guy......and single. :lol:
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On 2004-02-20 05:24:00, Anonymous
You know, there are classes that can help you learn to talk to girls.
Good personal hygiene will also help in your effort to get that big first date."
That's right...if you don't have a substantive response, resort to the personal attack.
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On 2004-02-20 05:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"it's so funny that you assume I'm a guy......and single. :lol: "
Huh? Where did I assume you were a guy? I just assumed you were a socially-challenged fifteen year old with a keyboard---who has trouble relating to girls in a romantic sense. You wouldn't have to be a guy for that.....
If you think what you've been posting counts as "substantive," then I'll have to add "intellectually-challenged" to that list of attributes.
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Hrms. Guess that's my troll-feeding quota for the day....
:wave:
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Must be the She Devil, herself.
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On 2004-02-20 07:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2004-02-20 05:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"it's so funny that you assume I'm a guy......and single. :tup: