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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Christy on January 27, 2004, 10:19:00 PM

Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on January 27, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
I was talking to Mrs. LeBlanc & we were laughing at how Todd & Chris could get under staff's skin sooo well.

Anyone know about Chris?

Christy
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2004, 07:27:00 AM
Mrs. LeBlanc.....now that is a name from out of the past.  How is she?  I always liked her, and wondered how she is doing.   I will always remember the time she gave her husband the finger in open meeting.  What a laugh.  Most of all I would like to know what ever happened to Todd.  He whizzed through the program and then had a major setback.  After that he was never the same.  I always worried about him.  Was it all an act that he perfected, or was he really going off the deep end.  I was in a house with him  often, and he always seemed fine, but on the way back to the program he would get real quiet and act weird.  I think that was when I started to think that there was definetly something wrong with this program.  Please let me know how Todd and his mother are.  It has been years, but I still remember them clearly.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2004, 08:31:00 PM
Chris K... I have not heard that name in a long time. I remember how he was like putty sitting rebellious in that blue chair. You could poke him, run your fingers down his back and he would just sit there. I can picture him now with his head reclined resting on the back of that blue chair. Who remembers when he took his lunch water and gave himself a mohawk? Staff tried for awhile to make him stop but after some time, they let it go. He was a funny guy. I used to bite the insides of my cheeks to stop from laughing outloud - even as an oldcomer. Chris K. and Brian W. were hillarious when rebellious together...
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on January 28, 2004, 10:57:00 PM
Unfortunately, it was not an act.  Or it became a real deal b/c of KIDS, who knows.  He suffers from a the experience more than just PTSD.  He is living in AZ I think.  In a very different kind of place.  He could use all of our prayers, I think.  His Mom speaks with him and yet doesn't know how to help him.  He is weary of the meds he needs b/c of KIDS.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on January 28, 2004, 10:59:00 PM
She is happily remarried and in touch with both of her children.  At the trial it was painful to see how KIDS has brought so much pain to her family.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on January 28, 2004, 11:00:00 PM
Unfortunately, it was not an act.  Or it became a real deal b/c of KIDS, who knows.  He suffers from a the experience more than just PTSD.  He is living in AZ I think.  In a very different kind of place.  He could use all of our prayers, I think.  His Mom speaks with him and yet doesn't know how to help him.  He is weary of the meds he needs b/c of KIDS.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
Always right there with the details of other peoples buisness. Somebody here suffers with emptiness,so sad.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 02, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
Very well said! I guess you see through the facade as well.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on February 02, 2004, 10:34:00 PM
Wow!  Do you all just wait for someone to bash?  We go thru this hell together, yet you love to find fault.  That's really too bad.  
Christy
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on February 02, 2004, 10:39:00 PM
And if someone here suffers from emptiness, (what a CRIME!) you wish them, what?  More of it?  NICE.  You all turned out soooo well, spitefull & arrogant pr&cks.  Wow.  You all are sooo above me.   For keeping in touch.  For being there for Lulu.  For giving a sh*t about Mrs. LeBlanc.  NICE.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Cayo Hueso on February 02, 2004, 11:08:00 PM
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On 2004-01-31 14:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

" Always right there with the details of other peoples buisness. Somebody here suffers with emptiness,so sad."



THEY suffer with emptiness.....how about a loser that sits around waiting for someone to post something that they can pounce on for absolutely no reason other than to be an asshole???? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?!?!?!?! Whatever it is that ANY of us suffer from, is due to our "friends" from the program.  Fuck you if you can't see that this is our refuge where other people really understand what we've been through. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Next time you feel the need to state your opinion about someone else's life, at least have the balls to give yourself a name so we can know which idiot we're dealing with.

You can lead a camel to water but you can't make it stink (any more than it already does)
-- Job

Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: ottkat on February 02, 2004, 11:12:00 PM
I'm going to agree with Christy here; what the hell is the matter with you all?

That place was torture, the couple that ran it were two of the most sociopathic individuals I have ever dealt with, and you all are going after people around here for caring for each other and keeping in contact?  How stupid and petty.

But, as always, such things are said anonymously so people don't have to take responsibility for their opinions.

Kathy
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 02, 2004, 11:18:00 PM
Thank you.  This girl rarely posts - and cared enough about OUR cause to stop her life to be with Lulu during her trial.  WHAT IF SHE IS... "EMPTY" (not saying that is true) ... you find it appropriate to belittle her?  WHY?  She had an insight, and GAVE it.  Isn't that what we do here at this site?  That's just MEAN. .Sorry, Christy.  Some of us respect you for coming forward, it was more than most could do!
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 02, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
You were kind to me then - and have been kind to me since.  What you did for Lulu was so unselfish & I respect you for it.  I can't imagine why anyone would want to bash you - but just know, MANY of us think you were STRONG for being there to face THEM.  This site was not meant for bashing people who helped us SPEAK UP -  You should feel great about supporting Lulu - and as for posting about the LeBlancs - I think it is sweet you even keep in touch w/ Mrs. L since the trial.  I am sure she appreciates it - and letting us know how that family is was a nice thing to do!
YOUR SUPPORTER
 :tup:
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 02, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
You sit there - ANONOMOUSLY -  and bash a person who came forward in a trial against Newton?  What have YOU done for our cause?  Shame on you!
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Jen on February 03, 2004, 12:19:00 AM
I really find it hard that anyone here is bashing Christy.  She has always been an outspoken activist against Newton.  She had the courage to leave and then went to the media with full balls to the wall speaking out.  She has taken every opportunity since then to get in his face and under his skin.  
There have been others that spoke out but no one that I have seen has been as dedicated as Christy.  She has more compassion and care for those who have been abused by that man then so many of us.  So shut the hell up until you are ready to step up and sacrifice life as you know it, be there for an x-kid and doing everything in your power to expose that sleeze bag for exactly what he is.

Jenny
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2004, 07:16:00 AM
I agree 100% that Christy is a very caring and dedicated ex Kid.  She has done more to get Newton and Ruth than you [the basher] would ever have the courage to do.  I cringe just thinking of looking at Miller, no less going to the trial and facing him day after day.  Besides, where were you when Lulu needed support?  I hate reading these bashings.  Even the ones about Millers henchmen.  We were all victims, or have you got a monopoly on being abused at Kids.  Wake up and grow up....this web site could use a little more people like Christy than you.  I come here to hear about the trouble the Newtons are in.  Not hear babyish whining about oldcomers.  Who of us is perfect?
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2004, 05:20:00 PM
Christy are you posting all the "we love christy" posts? Tell the truth now.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on February 05, 2004, 11:35:00 PM
I will take that as a friendly joke - and it made me smile!  Thanks for the support guys.  I guess you can't be liked by everyone.  And for the record - my life is like most I know - busy, up & down, rewarding and yes, sometimes not so much "empty", but lonely!  I am not ashamed to admit that!  Single in your 30's brings a range of emotions.  I just think its a shame YOU (anon) find joy in announcing you"suspicion" (like a good little upper phaser)  of my possible greif!  Odd.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on February 05, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
PS -
AND... If it wasn't a friendly joke - at this point - all I can say to ANON is BITE ME :razz: and all your interest in MY "emptiness", ironically implies you have a bit of your own. Whatever. If I am helping you feel superior - enjoy!
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2004, 01:27:00 PM
I certainly don`t want to bash you, but i would like to know why you are still single. I thought you were serious with some exkids kids, i always liked you when I was in group. What happened to those potential mates? I probably shouldn`t ask its more a question of how you and the men from kids you got to know are doing, is that to nosey?
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Christy on February 07, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
Why am I still single?  Dunno.  Too picky, wrong choices, hard to meet men in thirties when your girlfriends are all married & home with their kids... who knows.  I do know I am real serious about waiting till I am sure.  I am dating, but nothing has really stuck in a while.  

Dating ex-kids-kids.  Now there's a topic for therapy!  With Joel. I think it was so deeply tied into "losing him" b/c of "them" a decade before - and it sent me down a road I maybe needed to go to tie up some unfinished stuff.  It certainly is a choice I regret.  With Craig, that was pure optomism - probably for both of us - at the time, thinking it all seemed to make sense & seeing what we wanted to see in each other.  We really are not compatible.  I am certainly quite OVER the dating ex-kid-kids.  More deeply, I think those choices when I was younger had a lot to do with the closeness I felt to those I went thru that with - and how hard its been since to feel 100% "gotten" by men I've men.  Its all tied up in the insanity of the long lasting effects of good ole KIDS, I can assure you that.
Thanks for asking & the kind words.
PS - If you saw where I live now - in nowheresville PA (a career move) - you would wonder much less how I could have trouble meeting men!!!!  :wink:
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
I am so glad that you are doing well.  I always liked you, and you did help me alot.  Sorry things didn't turn our with ex kids, but maybe that was for the best.  too much history!  I wish you all the best, and keep posting.  I like to know how you are.  where in Pa are you...if you can tell me.  If you can't, I will ask you in person some day.
Title: Chr*s Kr*m*r
Post by: tenacious1 on February 22, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
i'll tell ya, in such a horrible environment, the shit chris pulled sometimes was hysterical! i even remember joel cracking a few smiles at his rebellious antics(of course he wasn't accused of being full of shit or dishonest!). and you always knew on the days chris came in repenting for his ill-gotten behavior, that the next day he'd be sitting there with his head down sleeping in group all over again! ::rocker::


ROCK ON CHRIS!!!