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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 29, 2003, 12:05:00 PM
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Could someone clarify exactly who Virgil might be, or is it just a figure of speach?
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Virgil is another name that Miller Newton went by.
Now he goes by Father Cassion ??
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Father Cassian. Yes. Trying to hide behind a cloak and a collar. Pathetic fuck, ain't he?
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Virgil is his real first name. On most documents he went by V. Miller Newton, and most people called him Miller.
Using Virgil is a sign of disrespect, IMO. :grin:
Kathy
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Virgil Virgil Virgil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Fuck You
rot in HELL
GOOD LUCK ON YOUR JUDGEMENT DAY ASS-WIPE
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Virgil Miller Newton III actually. And he is no longer Father Cassian either. :grin: He has been stripped of his "fatherhood" last thing I heard. I'm still in the processs of checking it out, but it was from an extremely reliable source. And go easy on the threats against newton...there is freedom of speech, but with that comes reprocussions. (sp?) People are responsible for their actions and words. Just a word of advice.
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Does that mean that he no longer has a church? I hope so.... Who were his parishioners? There weren't enough former Kids in Fl. to fill a church, so what about the rest of the people in his church. Did they still stick with him even after his law suit? I would love to know what he is doing now. I heard that some of the former Kids who live in FL. near him, went to his church. Is that true? How sick is that. Why doesn't he just retire and leave those poor sick Kids alone. What is all this doing to the kids of Kids? Do you think that Newton tells them how to raise there children? I am very worried about that. I can't stand to think of another gereration of cutlist. Who do you think will take over after he is gone?
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From what I have heard, there is a whole protocol for kid's children. For example, other people are allowed to "discipline" other's kids, and there are "appropriate" methods as well. I am so glad I got out of there before I married some other ass from KIDS and had their babies, just so the Newtons could tell me how to raise them. I feel like writing a book to let everyone know what we went through. More like a personal history...I don't think the average person has any idea how we were treated and brainwashed. In fact, Miller would probably like that because it would give him more notariety. Like Charles Manson.
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Who has the best estimate as to how many idiots still follow this load? I know Drew, Jackie, Tony and his wife still do but how many more? Just curious.
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I too am curious as to how many are still in Newton's grip. I think Erin H, and Erin and Bob in Fl, and also Kristie [joel's ex]. I forgot about margie too. How come these seemingly intelegent people still fall for that garbage? I guess I will never understand it. Just interested to know how many fools are left, and wonder if they ever think of leaving. I guess that is the reason Newton supported marring within the group. One will tell on the other.
How many of these don't have relationships with their families, and how many stupid parents still support their adult kids by being apart of this whole farce?
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On 2004-01-06 04:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
" I too am curious as to how many are still in Newton's grip. I think Erin H, and Erin and Bob in Fl, and also Kristie [joel's ex]. I forgot about margie too. How come these seemingly intelegent people still fall for that garbage? I guess I will never understand it. Just interested to know how many fools are left, and wonder if they ever think of leaving. I guess that is the reason Newton supported marring within the group. One will tell on the other.
How many of these don't have relationships with their families, and how many stupid parents still support their adult kids by being apart of this whole farce? "
Remember that intelligence has nothing to do with it, but the ability to perceive and understand reality.
Newton is a master of his brainwashing techniques. He perfected them in Straight, and was taught by other masters of the craft.
Yeah, I suppose that a certain amount of the blame falls upon his continual followers, as they allow their minds to align with his, but ultimately it's Newton who started the process.
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Who did Tony K marry?
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GOOD LUCK ON YOUR JUDGEMENT DAY ASS-WIPE
But I believe in this - and it's been tested by research
That he who fucks nuns will later join the church...
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does anyone really know how many followers Newton still has. I know the question was asked, but for some reason no one answers it. Is it that it's a secret or do you all just not know. I am just wondering who still stands for his telling them how to live their lives. What I really can't understand is how they can subject their children to that unnatural life style. I am not saying that they are bad parents in the fact that they don't love their kids, but why would someone keep their children away from grandparents, aunt, uncles, cousins,,,the works.
I though Newtons whole idea was "family". I guess it only works if the "family" bows to him.
I went through the kids program with some of the "hangers on" [at least I think they are still involved], and I even know some of their families. I just find it very sad to think of the time wasted not having a relationship because of the EVIL ONE. Any info out there?
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Allow me to help a little if I may. They are "BAD" parents, very bad! Because of their allegence to the "big fig" their children suffer. The zombies kids have little or no contact with their only real grandparents because they are considered "unhealthy." Not to mention all the aunts and uncles that are sooo dangerous! But fear not, they do have "Meema and Peepa" (aka ruth ann and miller) their very own surrogate grandparents, feel free to vomit at will. Poor kids they don`t understand but in time they`ll seek the truth and I don`t think they will be so willing to accept these esoteric beliefs. One poor kid was taken right out of NJ, away from her dad,grandparents,cousins,aunts,school, and friends Just to be in the newtons company.That is the epitamy of selfishness and disillusionment. The Kids line up consists of Tony kozakiewicz wife amy krispli, Drew giganti w/ jacky massero, peter day wife carolyn travern, darren nelson w/ margee c-something?, bob moss w/ erin bauman, kristie massero, Erinaranahran? Aaron hanish thats about it for them, and for me too.
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Thanks for the update! It's good to know that no one I really cared about is still caught up with anti-god almightly. Drew, Jackie... who cares..... assholes then, obvious asshole now. Tony and Amy??? I know Tony, idiot. I do not know Amy K, I'll leave her alone..... Pete Day????? WOW! I did not know that he is still with Newty! Anyone know how Andrea D. is? She was cool.... It may be inappropriate but their mother always freaked me out.... Reminded me of the mother from the movie Carrie.
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Can someone help me remember who Pete Day is? I know the other names and can remember their faces... but I can't place him. Time frame? Family? NJ, TX, CA??? All? And, is he married to Carolyn T? Thanks.
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I have a question. For the people who are not married to other program people. Like Aaron & Erin & now Kristie what are their future prospects for finding someone to spend their lives with? No one who is not a member of the cult would willingly go into such a messed up situation. Even if they found someone in AA that person would not be good enough for Ruth Ann & Miller to approve. Besides when they saw what the hell was going on they would run for their lives. I think it is sad that those people will always be alone. Especially sad for Aaron. I personally think he is gay & he will never be allowed to live freely or be himself because there is no such thing as being gay, you know, "it's your drug problem" Or I guess in his case his behavior problem. Pardon me if I'm completely wrong on that one. That was just the impression I got from being in group with him.
Pete Day is Andrea Day's brother. He was there when I was in NJ in 85 before going to El Paso. I'm sure other people know much more about him than I do.
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Last I know of Tony, Amy His wife, Margie, Erin H., Bob Moss and Erin and Pete Day are all apart of them. I am confused about Carolyn, did she really marry Pete? I saw one of the graduates not too long ago. They actually spoke to me. I was surprised but they were civil. It was scary after though to think they might judge me for how I look now. I actually ran into them in a public setting so it was safe. But weird.
Legalizing drugs is far from a panacea for all the distress caused by drugs, but it will eliminate most of the profit and corruption from the drug trade.
--Nobel laureate, Gary S. Becker
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I also have wondered what these unmarried "kids" will do for the rest of their lives. What the heck, if grandparents, aunts and uncles are not worthy of a relationship with these elite people, where will they ever find someone to marry. I can't believe that they don't think about this all the time. I would get a little tired of being around married couples all the time. Maybe Miller and Ruth Ann will find them a spouse from within their church. Yuck! Is there still a church that will employ him [if that is the word]?
Maybe Erin and Aaron will "have to get married" because there is no one else. How sad....
Someone wrote that they are not good parents. I really hope that isn't true. I remember some the Kids kids, and they were so sweet. They must get a taste of the real world when they go to school. What are the parents who don't have family relations going to tell their kids when they grow up?That the rest of the family didn't want to see them? At least with Joel and Kristie's child, she gets to be in NJ with her father and his family once in awhile. She will never be able to swollow the story of grandparents and family not wanting to see her. She knows that they love her. I bet that kills the Newtons. I wonder if Kristie ever wishes she had stood up to them before she went ahead with a divorce. I guess we will never know.
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Miller cannot be associated with a church in a clergy position because he lost his collar.
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How are they living today? Do the Newton's still have a nice home, with the freedom and finances to not have to work, to enjoy thier twisted retirement? I really want to know what thier everyday life is like. After all, didn't the insurance companies pay the damages awarded in the lawsuits? What if anything came out of thier pockets? Or are they still living on my parents' money? I wish I could know if they were suffering.
I believe they have a wealthy son, and I'm sure he
would help them. I'd like to see them have no
help, no where to turn, lose the house, the cars,
the jewelry, and live like some of you had to just to survive after you're stay at kids. Ok I'm done.
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are you meaning mark newton, heard he was caught cheating on his wife with a guy actually if thats who you mean the " son with money "....
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I am sorry maybe its been mentioned previously, but could some one please tell me what newton has done now in order that he can not wear a robe or be a preacher, what crime has he commited now?? thanks all for your input...
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Well if you ask me Miller or Virgil or Ruthann can all rot in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"I am sorry maybe its been mentioned previously, but could some one please tell me what newton has done now in order that he can not wear a robe or be a preacher, what crime has he commited now?? thanks all for your input..."
Excuse me? I'm assuming you have not read many of the personal experiences on this site, and are not familiar with the extreme abuse dished out by this maniacal man. Does he need to do more damage than the damage he has already caused to the lives of countless children for decades? or should he be allowed to instill the same brainwashing and child abuse now in a different forum such as a church? Please read the testimonies and experiences of those who were in Miller Newton's programs to answer that question.
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I think the person wanted proof that he lost his
religious title. What is that darn site that lists the abusive priests....Prokov or something.
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Thankyou, that is correct. I am aware of the damage and harm that Newton has caused believe me. I was just curious if he did something recently like one specific act of harm that caused the state or a city to have taken his robe away. Maybe something that was in the newspaper or on the news that I was unaware of. To all my fellow and long time friends, I wish you all health, peace, and happiness. A Good life to you all.........
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bushy eye brows, bad complexion(didn't we all), kinda whiny when he spoke,,,like jay leno, a little pudgy.............ring any bells yet?