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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 16, 2003, 12:05:00 PM
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Carey is a piece of work alright!
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Did Karen Z. start this thread? Holy Moly, I hope not. But check out the post below made on Sept. 13, 2003. The author is someone who registered as ANON (see link to thread listed below and note the edit/erase job on another of ANON's post made by none other than Karen Z.) Is it a coincidence that she misspelled the same words "of coarse" used in both threads? And what about the fixation on "right and wrong". Very odd but then again, who is Karen Z? She is a former WWASPS parent. Denies being a PURE supporter, though was once listed as such on the PURE website. Placed son at Abundant Life Academy. Once managed ALA's promotional and/or recruitment website. Erased majority of her posts on Fornits. Why? What does she not want anybody to see? Her comments about WWASPS, PURE,the Trekkers, personal attacks and nasty allegations leveled against Carey? Why has she seemingly disappeared, or has she?
:scared:
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Posted: 2003-09-13 14:12:00
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9)
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Posted: 2003-09-13 14:12:00
//There defiately IS right and wrong-good and evil- dark and light and they do not mix.//
Trying to explain this got me in a lot of trouble on the BBS! : )
It really didn't fit in well with the Program mind set. It was like, there is no right or wrong - except you - you are wrong ; )
//To put your trust in a program more than in your
Creator and his Word would seem to be having other Gods before him and idolizing a philosophy above the Word. //
Of coarse, thats exactly what is going on. I feel it is a form of humanism - a worshipping of the self. I tend to think its natural that this philosophy has found a home in this program, b/c it is fundamental to the faith of those who built and own it.
After all, if one will someday be a god; then they must have within themselves redemptive power.
It can mix and be matched with any of the eastern religions very nicely - but it clashes head on with Judaic Christianity.
I to was surprised that more of the professing Christians didn't have trouble with this. I can only think that the majority are what I think of as cultural Christians. Their faith being a conveince; their church a social club; and nothing of Christ ever getting very deep.
These folks don't know enough about their faith to know when its being subverted; and often argue against the very tenints of their faith; either out of ignorance, or disbelief. These are the parents that profess to Christian faith; and yet buy into the Program's lie; In my opinion.
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Carey, it's your mother that should have started this thread.
Yesterday, you accused people of starting threads against you and you found out, as usual, you're a horses-ass and you're wrong. Today, the same thing.
Karen Z. (in fact I think we can exclude most all women) is not likely to author a thread entitled "OF COARSE YOU THINK YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT; YOU GOOFY BITCH". The author of the statement (not the thread) seems to me to be very obvious.
Carey, what ever happened to the unanswered question from yesterday about your husband. Did he discover, while married to you, that you're a selfish, single-minded, money-grubbing bitch who has no problem hurting everyone she comes into contact with. One of your many problems is that you use people like toilet tissue and then you say it's OK cause I had a reason. There is no reason for being a poor excuse for a human being.
Smarten up!
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On 2003-12-17 05:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did Karen Z. start this thread? Holy Moly, I hope not. But check out the post below made on Sept. 13, 2003. The author is someone who registered as ANON (see link to thread listed below and note the edit/erase job on another of ANON's post made by none other than Karen Z.) Is it a coincidence that she misspelled the same words "of coarse" used in both threads? And what about the fixation on "right and wrong". Very odd but then again, who is Karen Z? She is a former WWASPS parent. Denies being a PURE supporter, though was once listed as such on the PURE website. Placed son at Abundant Life Academy. Once managed ALA's promotional and/or recruitment website. Erased majority of her posts on Fornits. Why? What does she not want anybody to see? Her comments about WWASPS, PURE,the Trekkers, personal attacks and nasty allegations leveled against Carey? Why has she seemingly disappeared, or has she?
:scared:
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Posted: 2003-09-13 14:12:00
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9)
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Posted: 2003-09-13 14:12:00
//There defiately IS right and wrong-good and evil- dark and light and they do not mix.//
Trying to explain this got me in a lot of trouble on the BBS! : )
It really didn't fit in well with the Program mind set. It was like, there is no right or wrong - except you - you are wrong ; )
//To put your trust in a program more than in your
Creator and his Word would seem to be having other Gods before him and idolizing a philosophy above the Word. //
Of coarse, thats exactly what is going on. I feel it is a form of humanism - a worshipping of the self. I tend to think its natural that this philosophy has found a home in this program, b/c it is fundamental to the faith of those who built and own it.
After all, if one will someday be a god; then they must have within themselves redemptive power.
It can mix and be matched with any of the eastern religions very nicely - but it clashes head on with Judaic Christianity.
I to was surprised that more of the professing Christians didn't have trouble with this. I can only think that the majority are what I think of as cultural Christians. Their faith being a conveince; their church a social club; and nothing of Christ ever getting very deep.
These folks don't know enough about their faith to know when its being subverted; and often argue against the very tenints of their faith; either out of ignorance, or disbelief. These are the parents that profess to Christian faith; and yet buy into the Program's lie; In my opinion.
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9)
Look for a post by ANON that says: This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 13:36 ]
How many other posts did Karen Z. either edit or erase on October 18, 2003?
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Yesterday, you accused people of starting threads against you and you found out, as usual, you're a horses-ass and you're wrong. Today, the same thing
Can show me where I accused people of starting threads against me?
And, if I am wrong, why the worry?
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On 2003-12-17 05:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Carey, it's your mother that should have started this thread.
Yesterday, you accused people of starting threads against you and you found out, as usual, you're a horses-ass and you're wrong. Today, the same thing.
Karen Z. (in fact I think we can exclude most all women) is not likely to author a thread entitled "OF COARSE YOU THINK YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT; YOU GOOFY BITCH". The author of the statement (not the thread) seems to me to be very obvious.
Carey, what ever happened to the unanswered question from yesterday about your husband. Did he discover, while married to you, that you're a selfish, single-minded, money-grubbing bitch who has no problem hurting everyone she comes into contact with. One of your many problems is that you use people like toilet tissue and then you say it's OK cause I had a reason. There is no reason for being a poor excuse for a human being.
Smarten up!"
What's the matter, Anon? Don't like the heat being turned up? Well, best get used to "sweating bullets" because it looks like it is your turn to sit in the hot box.
:flame:
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Carey:
Now I am annoyed with Frod cause he's been to nice to you. Here's the answer to your stupid question:
Carey, I think you're mistaken in a couple of subtle ways. Let me try and clarify that, point by point.
On 2003-12-16 14:58:00, Carey wrote:
"What innocent people...you parents who were duped and who are being duped again? You are not innocent, you are a trekker.
Yes, duped and then duped again very like a battered woman bouncing from one abuser to the next. No one's entirely innocent and no one's forcing them, against their will, to buy the same bad song and dance again and again. But they're not exactly acting with malice aforethought, either. They're getting rooked. And, as you well know, they're getting rooked for a WHOLE lot more than just money.
All of these Anon posts are coming from only a handful of trekkers.
Nope. Some of them are. But there are others. Doesn't mean you're necessarily wrong about everything or anyone's right about everything. Just means that this is apparently a valid topic of debate.
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Yep, looks to me like Karen Z. could be the author of the post.
There are no accidents.
:silly:
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I'm still in favor of Carey's mother.
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On 2003-12-17 05:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I'm still in favor of Carey's mother."
Of coarse, you are.
GOT MILK (to go with your flakey logic)?
:rofl:
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Carey, what about the fact that you have been proven to be a liar again. You accused people yesterday and there's the post saying you were wrong. You said the whole thing was a plot by a handful of "trekkers" and it wasn't.
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Can show me where I accused people of starting threads against me?
And, if I am wrong, why the worry?
Carey, what do you mean if you're wrong, why the worry. Was this some sort of trial baloon you put up just to see if you could get away with it.
The point of all this, is not for you to get out of bed in the morning, wipe away the KY and then boot your computer and start lying (gheez)!
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Ah, no answer from Carey on these questions. Willgive her the same benefit of the doubt she gave Jeff Berryman. If she didn't answer. then she's guilty. What a slime!
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Someone must have come by to open a new account and that's why she's silent, hmmm, don't forget to tell the nyew customer you'll sell his banking records to the Times Picciyune for the right price you ho.
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On 2003-12-17 05:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yep, looks to me like Karen Z. could be the author of the post.
There are no accidents.
:silly: "
Don't post pics of Carey on the forum!
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Pay attention Anon. This thread is not about the trekkers.
It is about Karen Z. who near as I can tell, has never confessed to being a trekker. But who knows. The lady erased the record of her posts on Fornits and probably a few other discussion boards, as well.
:rofl:
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On 2003-12-17 06:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Can show me where I accused people of starting threads against me?
And, if I am wrong, why the worry?
Carey, what do you mean if you're wrong, why the worry. Was this some sort of trial baloon you put up just to see if you could get away with it.
The point of all this, is not for you to get out of bed in the morning, wipe away the KY and then boot your computer and start lying (gheez)!"
You are skanky, Anon. So skanky it's obvious who you are. Got some shopping to do, today? Money to burn?
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Pay attention Carey. You were caught again and you are trying to change the subject. You're right this has nothing to do with Trekkers, this has to do with your need to gain the approval of someone for what you have done. You traded money for principles, which makes you a ho ho, end of story!
Don't you have customers waiting. Maybe your Security Department wanting to know why your nranch was "out of balance" yesterday. Fix that problem first.
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On 2003-12-17 06:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Someone must have come by to open a new account and that's why she's silent, hmmm, don't forget to tell the nyew customer you'll sell his banking records to the Times Picciyune for the right price you ho."
"Ho"? Who are you? Some kind of virgin vessel? Pure as the driven snow? I don't thinnnnnnk so.
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More pure than you Carey. I don't have blood money in or on my hands.
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Yeah, Carey is the ho in a pear tree.
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On 2003-12-17 06:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Pay attention Carey. You were caught again and you are trying to change the subject. You're right this has nothing to do with Trekkers, this has to do with your need to gain the approval of someone for what you have done. You traded money for principles, which makes you a ho ho, end of story!
Don't you have customers waiting. Maybe your Security Department wanting to know why your nranch was "out of balance" yesterday. Fix that problem first. "
Anon, you are making serious allegations. Careful now, you are getting real close to revealing your true identity and uh, shall we say, your true M.O.
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On 2003-12-17 06:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"More pure than you Carey. I don't have blood money in or on my hands."
Oh really? What do you have in or on your hands? Hope it is some deodrant because sweating bullets does cause excessive B.O. (if ya catch my drift, here!!)
GOT RIGHT GUARD?
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OK, PLEASE TELL ME WHO I AM? I AM WAITING!
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STILL WAITING?????
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Good Guess! Wow, Carey doesn't know what she's talking about again.
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On 2003-12-17 06:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"OK, PLEASE TELL ME WHO I AM? I AM WAITING!"
What, and spoil all the fun watching you dig yourself into a hole so deep you'll wish you never opened your big mouth? No way!
::bigsmilebounce::
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Oh Carey, I'm so scared. What will you do, extort $12,500 out of me, your going price, ho!
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You are laughable Carey. You on Chex-Systems?
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Oh, and speaking of prostitutes. What do you call the ex-wwasp parents who used to refer kids (for a free month's tuition) but no longer do so because of their great awakening? Reformed Ho's?
Bring it on.
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This was yesterday's lesson Carey. I see I'll have to flunk you again. Two wrongs don't make a right! They're no better, but that has nothing to de with what you've done.
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The other difference between you and them, is they are all not up here pretending to be St. Francis of Asisi!
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Isn't Carey the one that they wouldn't let on the ISAC Board, the Woodbury Forum. In fact all other boards (except 1-900 boards)
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On 2003-12-17 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This was yesterday's lesson Carey. I see I'll have to flunk you again. Two wrongs don't make a right! They're no better, but that has nothing to de with what you've done."
No, Anon. This is what is on the menu today and maybe tomorrow. However long it takes to keep the heat on you, not Carey, who by now, everybody knows is $12,500 richer. Guess that really does make your blood boil but not for the reasons you would have us all believe.
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Sorry, you are wrong, it is not me posting as anon. I don't need to.
Isn't Carey the one that they wouldn't let on the ISAC Board, the Woodbury Forum.
Who said they would not let me post on the Woodbury Forum? Where did you pick up that piece of info from? You are right about the ISAC forum. They won't let me post there. Wonder why? Could it be that Sue and Marti are pretty tight? I would say so. Plus, they both don't like for people to challenge what they have to say.
[ This Message was edited by: Carey on 2003-12-17 07:24 ]
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What reasons would that be Carey? Let's hear this?!
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ho, ho ho!
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What reasons would that be Carey?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.
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On 2003-12-17 07:18:00, Carey wrote:
"Sorry, you are wrong, it is not me posting as anon. I don't need to.
Isn't Carey the one that they wouldn't let on the ISAC Board, the Woodbury Forum.
Who said they would not let me post on the Woodbury Forum? Where did you pick up that piece of info from? You are right about the ISAC forum. They won't let me post there. Wonder why? Could it be that Sue and Marti are pretty tight? I would say so. Plus, they both don't like for people to challenge what they have to say.
[ This Message was edited by: Carey on 2003-12-17 07:24 ]"
Or they don't like BS on their board.
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Ho, Ho, Ho, these self-proclaimed reformed ho's are putting on some dog-and-pony-show. For free, no less!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Thanks for that meaningful contribution Carey
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More like control freaks! Probably most of the kids put into these programs have control freaks for parents.
By the way, that is one of Sue's beefs with the WWASP BBS..."they want to control what people say". Hmmm...why is it ok for Sue and Marty to do that, but not others? Oh, yeah, the Jesus/Judas thing, that is why you anons keep refering to that, they (Sue and Marty) think they are GOD! I guess you think they are too.
Sorry, that shit don't fly...at least not for those who can see clearly.
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Well yes, for $12,500 you should be able to by a very fine pair of glasses that enable you to see clearly. Rose color?
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Hey, WallMart is having a sale on RIGHT GUARD. 2 for one. If you anons in the hot box hurry, you might be able to buy enough to give as Christmas gifts to your other friends in the "carey sucks club". God knows you people are going to need plenty of deodrant (and mouthwash) if you expect to get through the next year without stinking to high heaven.
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You keep mentioning the "hot box". What is that? Also, I don't see anyone perspiring. What's that all about?
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luv the sounds on this one!!
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Man, I love this guy!
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Posted: 2003-12-16 08:42:00
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" I don't think what I did was wrong. Not at all. I think what I did was right...totally right."
Of coarse you think your totally right; You goofy bitch.
Look up malignant narcissist and learn why it is your always right.
I be the one who posted this post on Bock's link about what she has to say.
Someone made use of it to start this thred. Wasn't me.
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Frod is as funny and sharp as they come! The laughter sound is great!!!
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Froderick, I think the PURE/Bozak Getting Rich thread needs some sound effects.
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Me read again, me think about it...you have nice day. :cool:
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On 2003-12-17 05:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did Karen Z. start this thread? Holy Moly, I hope not. But check out the post below made on Sept. 13, 2003. The author is someone who registered as ANON (see link to thread listed below and note the edit/erase job on another of ANON's post made by none other than Karen Z.) Is it a coincidence that she misspelled the same words "of coarse" used in both threads? And what about the fixation on "right and wrong". Very odd but then again, who is Karen Z? She is a former WWASPS parent. Denies being a PURE supporter, though was once listed as such on the PURE website. Placed son at Abundant Life Academy. Once managed ALA's promotional and/or recruitment website. Erased majority of her posts on Fornits. Why? What does she not want anybody to see? Her comments about WWASPS, PURE,the Trekkers, personal attacks and nasty allegations leveled against Carey? Why has she seemingly disappeared, or has she?
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Posted: 2003-09-13 14:12:00
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2983&forum=9)
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Posted: 2003-09-13 14:12:00
//There defiately IS right and wrong-good and evil- dark and light and they do not mix.//
Trying to explain this got me in a lot of trouble on the BBS! : )
It really didn't fit in well with the Program mind set. It was like, there is no right or wrong - except you - you are wrong ; )
//To put your trust in a program more than in your
Creator and his Word would seem to be having other Gods before him and idolizing a philosophy above the Word. //
Of coarse, thats exactly what is going on. I feel it is a form of humanism - a worshipping of the self. I tend to think its natural that this philosophy has found a home in this program, b/c it is fundamental to the faith of those who built and own it.
After all, if one will someday be a god; then they must have within themselves redemptive power.
It can mix and be matched with any of the eastern religions very nicely - but it clashes head on with Judaic Christianity.
I to was surprised that more of the professing Christians didn't have trouble with this. I can only think that the majority are what I think of as cultural Christians. Their faith being a conveince; their church a social club; and nothing of Christ ever getting very deep.
These folks don't know enough about their faith to know when its being subverted; and often argue against the very tenints of their faith; either out of ignorance, or disbelief. These are the parents that profess to Christian faith; and yet buy into the Program's lie; In my opinion.
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Well, with so many wolves in sheep's clothing, it's hard to know if Karen Z. IS the one who started this thread with the Carey Is A Bitch, Ho, Traitor, etc. routine. Guess we will never know for certain but of coarse (sic) that is par for the course with this band-on-the-run. Just wish their sense of humor was at least half as good as Froderick's because to be honest, this is a joke.
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Just wish their sense of humor was at least half as good as Froderick's because to be honest, this is a joke.
Why thank you, Anon.. :grin: