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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Froderik on December 07, 2003, 11:19:00 PM
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I posted this request somewhere last night - now I can't remember which thread or even what forum it was & I'm tired of looking...
Could someone please post a link pointing to where this whole flame war started? I'd like to look back and see how it all unfolded. Anyone?
[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-12-07 20:57 ]
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Is it too much to ask for an instant replay? Let's resolve this..
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I've done as much "police work" as possible on this. Looking at the profiles of BGJ and CH and "finding posts by this user" I was able to come up with this at least:
Black Gay Jew (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/search.php?term=&addterms=any&forum=all&search_username=Black%20Gay%20Jew&sortby=p.post_time&searchboth=both&submit=Search)
Cayohuesto (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/search.php?term=&addterms=any&forum=all&search_username=cayohuesto&sortby=p.post_time&searchboth=both&submit=Search)
(scroll down to "Nazi is so ugly")
This points to the earliest posts by these two in relation to nazi. Before this, there were some anons fucking with him. Hmmmm... Wonder who THEY were..And around that time too, there was the jerkoff who spammed two whole pages of the Elan Forum. Until someone wants to prove to me otherwise, I declare that Nazi Is Innocent!
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Oh please... Nazi is guilty as hell... just read his threats.
He's bullied everyone on this fucking site and they were sick of it. So we gave him some of his own medicine... wa wa wa.
Elan can be a fucked-up place, but Nazi deserved to be there.
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BGJ, why dont you come meet me face to face and administer this medicine to me in person? Whats wrong, got no balls?I"m in the NY/NJ area, come meet me bitch!!!
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Guilty as hell, eh? Prove it. Provide links. Did he threaten anyone before they started in with him? Apparently not, Coz. No one deserved Elan, jackass, except maybe YOU for saying that...
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Coz is just upset because Marty made him his little pet and he got all intimadated over a man that stands 5ft 2.LMAO!!!
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Steve, knock it off joke. Nobody takes you seriously. Lay down bitch.
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Cayohuesto and BGJ have about 90 times the class as stevie fag boy.
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Cayohuesto, Maybe. But she hasnt posted much since i got here for me to tell for sure.
But BGJ? He's sunk as low as nazi.
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Well you'll have to excuse GBJ, he is fianlly out of prison and is still adjusting to the fact that he is free.What a ruff life he had, being traded for smokes by raging homo's and getting it up the ass,Just think GBJ, your asshole will finally heal up all that swelling, that is if you can keep dicks from penetrating it now that you are a freeman.
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"But BGJ? He's sunk as low as nazi."
I respect your opinion but disagree.
My mission is to humiliate and degrade Nazi so he can be subjected to the same crap he's put countless others through. no one else had the balls to do it, so I'm taking the initiative. I also wish to restore order to this board so maybe some people will talk about Elan and not be intimidated by this fucking creep. i do not support Elan, I don't love it, but this board should not be taken hostage by a racist madman.
when Nazi wants to talk like a human being, I'll stop.
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So, essentially, you're using his tactics.. againt... him?! ingenious! However, the very deffinition of "sinking to his level"
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On 2003-12-09 09:33:00, Bellis wrote:
"So, essentially, you're using his tactics.. againt... him?! ingenious! However, the very deffinition of "sinking to his level"
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nah, fewer people are taking him seriously anymore and he's become the board joke. You know, anyone who could equate hating Elan with agreeing totally with everyone else's point of view is a fucking kiss-up. especially when it comes to the fucking terrorism on this board.
but I guess abused kids are more likely to abuse. maybe nazi shouldn't have been in elan. sorry, shouldn't have said that.
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This is the same thing that happens every time. This is how I got into this stupid fight. People see Nazi attacking the WAY he does and they feel the need to jump to the victims defense. That's what is happening now. Others saw HOW he attacks people and started commenting and now THEY'RE the ones being attacked. Nazi DOES have some good points when he's not behaving like a child. If someone disagrees with him though, all bets are off and human decency seems to fly out the proverbial window. He can't argue a point so he just says whatever runs out of his mouth at the moment. Froderik...I'm not sure exactly where I jumped in but it began with him spewing out venom at someone or another and I guess I took offense at HOW he was attacking them. Like I said, I actually AGREE with how Nazi feels about Elan so when he is attacking someone who is pro-Elan I can get behind him IF he's using intelligent arguements. But he wasn't. All I kept seeing was how many inches his muscles were or how great looking he was or how much money he had. It was like he was BEGGING for someone to blow him out of the water. Someone ELSE posted a link to his pic...NOT ME. Also, I NEVER SAID I WAS BEAUTIFUL. He challenged me to post my pic, I did. Others commented. I took it down because he posted one of these threads on his (or whoevers) site along with my picture and tried to get the same shit going over there and I didn't even KNOW about it. He also took this over to the Straight forum. I posted over there and apologized for it spilling over into there. Someone, don't know who...made a comment about THAT...the fact that I apologized. Guess I should be shot for that. :roll: He accuses others of posting anonymously but then he does it himself!!!!!! Ginger actually said he wasn't a bad looking guy and look what he does to her. She has posted some of the most intelligent, well thought out shit here, didn't resort to the name calling but because she said some things he didn't like now she's ugly and entire threads are devoted to tearing her down. Come ON. But, ya know...somehow I think she'll find the strength to go on. Froderik, I've seen your posts around quite a bit and I respect your opinion and agree with most of what you say....I DO NOT want to get into another war. I don't know why you've chosen to defend him, but it's your right and I'll respect that. I know you have more class than to resort to his levels though.
It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson
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Cayohuesto,
NEVER SAID I WAS BEAUTIFUL
That was just my opinion. I know you didn't say it. As far as the thing with Ginger goes, I'd have to go back and look. I recall at one point her posting "pictures" of Nazi as a geek "what he really looks like," and then as a muscle-bound transvestite (I think) "what he wishes he was." Not sure what brought that on, but that could explain Nazi's reaction a little. Thank you for your input.
[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-12-09 10:17 ]
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See??? Now THIS can be productive. Disagreeing without annihilating....WHAT A CONCEPT.
Seriously, thanks for the civil response. I do appreciate it.The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive.
--Thomas Sowell
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But Cayohuesto, you are beautiful. Very bright also with an impressive sense of justice. And you can hold your own with the best of them.
Now, Froderik, I have no problem with you. I actually liked you until you appeared to become nazi's boy. I AM against the way he bahaves here in every way. The guy has ruined the forum several times to the point where most sane people who were actually at Elan won't even post here and has hurt lots of people who don't deserve it over and over. Like I said, I have no problem personally with you. If you wanna kiss and make up I'd like that but no comparing nothing. Our dicks stay in our pants. Deal?
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appeared to become nazi's boy.
War is over, if you want. And yes, let's keep our members in our pants, lol. But take back that comment, please. I was only standing up for his right to the 1st.
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For the record, Frod, I never seriously doubted you'd figure things out. And I'd still like and admire you even if you came to a different conclusion than mine.
But I must say, you do look like a slightly high strung version of how I imagine Arthur Dent. ::bwahaha2:: Drug War tells us everyone's body is common property
to be managed by the central government for our own
good, even if it kills us. This is Communism!
Drug Policy Foundation of Texas
--Bob Ramsey
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For the record, Frod, I never seriously doubted you'd figure things out
Figure what out?
But I must say, you do look like a slightly high strung version of how I imagine Arthur Dent
I don't get it.
http://www.acmerecords.com/arthurdent.html (http://www.acmerecords.com/arthurdent.html)
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which comment would you like me to take back?
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The one about being Nazi's "boy.."
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Okay, if you're not I take it back.
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Thank you. I was not and am not being his 'boy' as you phrased it. (To me this implies that I was kissing his ass or something.) It was as simple as this...without going into too much detail, I was just standing up for him..blah, blah, blah. We've already been through it all, and I would rather refrain from going thru it again. Apology accepted. :tup:
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*sniff sniff* i think i'm gonna cry.. Group hug everyone!
Only mild sarcasm, i swear!
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I'm not doing too poorly at being a peacemaker, am I? Maybe BGJ and Nazi will sit down and have a beer together someday. Only mild sarcasm, I swear! :grin:
[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-12-09 20:05 ]
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On 2003-12-09 13:25:00, Froderik13 wrote:
"For the record, Frod, I never seriously doubted you'd figure things out
Figure what out?
Never mind.
But I must say, you do look like a slightly high strung version of how I imagine Arthur Dent
I don't get it.
http://www.acmerecords.com/arthurdent.html (http://www.acmerecords.com/arthurdent.html)"
Yes, that Arthur Dent. Never read Hitchhikers' Guide? Grab a copy if you see it. It's hillarious. Art's very cool, too. Here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... fmiamithem (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345391802/circlofmiamithem)
Guard with jealous attention the public Liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that Jewel. Unfortunately, Nothing will Preserve it but downright Force. Whenever you Give Up that Force, you are ruined.....The Great Object is that every man be armed.....Everyone who is able may have a gun.
- Patrick Henry
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I'm keepin' quiet...
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Damn, you people picked the wrong cat to fuck with, Nazi tore your asses apart big time.Don't understand why some of you dislike the guy?He was a very funny sense of humor.The way I see it is he is treting the staff the way they use to treat us.
Those fuckin staff members would say some really harsh things to students at times.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Oh yeah, our asses were really "torn off". Do you see how these forums are getting back to people actually having some intelligent conversations/debates without the EXTREME hostility since he's been gone?? Yes, people still argue and even call each other names, but it doesn't get to the extent that HE took it to. He's posting as ANON now to try and make people think he has more support than he actually does. Sure, a FEW people have openly supported him, but even THEY have seen that he goes too far. I'm not jumping back into the fire because it's pointless to argue with an idiot. I have NEVER defended any program or staff and I NEVER would. As I have posted before...I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT THE PROGRAMS. The WAY he goes after people is what I object to. It just makes people who are trying to get Elan/Straight etc. look like idiots too. They come on these boards for the first time and see "so and so eats dog poop" or "so and so is a nigger" or, my personal favorite "I have 14 inch biceps". Come on :roll: ....I see more intelligent arguements coming from my 10 year old nephew.Not a place upon earth might be so happy as America. Her situation is remote from all the wrangling world, and she has nothing to do but to trade with them.
--Thomas Paine
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I've read Nazi's responses to your posts, you ripped you apart.
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I meant he ripped you apartm that was a typo.
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ok one more typo and I'm smashing my fingers!!!wait a minute, that wouldn't be a great idea, might sound like a great idea for you idiots.Ok go ahead have a luagh over my ypos, it will show you how stupid you can really be.
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Ok I gotta change this keyboard, 5 keys stick and it fucks all my post's up!
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What a fucking pathetic excuse. I've never seen sticky keys that actually replace whole words, or substituted characters with others. Usually it just adds 3-4 extra letters, for me.
But seriously i am laughing.. cant.. controll.. self.. hahahahahah! Watcha gonna do tough guy? :smile:
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So I guess when sticky keys occur for someone that the after math is suppose to be exactly what you experienced huh?I was waitng for an idiot to comment on my typos, and guess what? You are the idiot. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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AFTERMATH is one word
The legislature is to society as a physician is to the patient. If a physician ignored side effects of medications like today's legislators ignore the side effects of their legislation, the physician would be accused of malpractice. I accuse today's legislators (with rare exception) of legislative malpractice. Many of the ills that are so obvious in our society are a direct result of previous legislation. Their solution? More laws!
-- John A. Bennett, DO
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Why thank you for bringing that to my attention my little servant, perhaps you can wipe my ass next?
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Not "exactly" as i experience... But syam, hypothitically, that that "m" was sticky, ok? please explain how that's going to affect the "H" "E", "Y" "O" and "U"? i'm really confused about that.
Had you not blamed it on "sticky keys" i wouldnt have said anything, i'm really a horrible typer.. i have to proof read everything and sometimes get careless so i understand. But since you're gonna be such a jack ass... Exactly what is your computers main function that all your keys stick? I suggest a new keyboard, and some kind of cleaner/disinfectant. :wave:
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Initially a picture frame fell on top of my key board and some keys broke, I had purchased a new one awhile back but never installed it until now.on yop of that soda was spilled on it,Why do you care anyways?
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"on yop of that soda was spilled on it,Why do you care anyways?"
Now that was a typo! on top